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The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend

Kev The Clogs 19 Aug 08 - 08:46 AM
Girl Friday 19 Aug 08 - 08:50 AM
Kev The Clogs 22 Aug 08 - 06:37 AM
Kev The Clogs 28 Aug 08 - 05:41 PM
melodeonboy 28 Aug 08 - 09:32 PM
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Don(Wyziwyg)T 29 Aug 08 - 04:44 AM
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GUEST 29 Aug 08 - 11:53 AM
GUEST,Terry - Hartley MM 29 Aug 08 - 02:24 PM
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Girl Friday 06 Sep 08 - 08:34 PM
GUEST,Rafflesbear 07 Sep 08 - 04:11 PM
GUEST,Norcsalordie 10 Sep 08 - 04:46 PM
GUEST,Terry - Hartley MM 12 Sep 08 - 06:53 AM
Girl Friday 14 Sep 08 - 11:24 AM
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Subject: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 08:46 AM

The Crown Pub in Otford (near Sevenoaks, Kent) is holding a Beer/Folk weekend on Friday 10th October, Saturday 11th October and Sunday 12th October. (The weekend after Tenterden)

Norcsalordie, a superb duo, will be performing on the Saturday night inside the pub. There will be a Selection of twelve beers (and there are some crackers!!!) in the smokers' lean to, outside in the garden. Mark, the Landlord, would like as many Folkies to attend as possible - we can sit in the garden area and sing and play (if it looks like bad weather, I think he might put up a marquee).

Turn up when you can. The main Folk slant is on the Saturday, but if you are there on the Friday or Sunday, then I'm sure that you will be welcome to sing and play inside as well.

This is his first attemp at this, so wish him luck.

If it is a success, then he says that he will try and organise the farmer's field behind the pub for next year!!

Hope you can make some/all of it.

Regards

Kev


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 19 Aug 08 - 08:50 AM

Where Norcsalordie go there go TDL. Sounds great Kev.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 22 Aug 08 - 06:37 AM

There will be a fire Juggler there as well (Folk mob - my mate Rob, who came to Knockholt last year).


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 28 Aug 08 - 05:41 PM

Not many takers - is there something else on that weekend? Come on peeps, give it a go.

Kev


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: melodeonboy
Date: 28 Aug 08 - 09:32 PM

I'm gigging on the Saturday, but I'll ask Growler and Fiddlebird if Ruff 'n' Reddy could do something on the Friday or Sunday.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 03:21 AM

Where you find Norcsalordie and TDL there you find Rafflesbear!

Hopefully the duckpond will look less like a building site by then


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 04:44 AM

I'll try to make it too. I'll confirm a bit nearer the time

Don T.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: naughtyforty
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 05:13 AM

Really sorry but going to Banbury that weekend with Essex Girl so neither of us will be able to make it.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 11:53 AM

Duckpond like a building site? Have the ducks gone quackers and demanded housing ?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Terry - Hartley MM
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 02:24 PM

Hopefully Hartley and Pete Collins will be there lunchtime Saturday.
Will confirm after this w/e.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 29 Aug 08 - 03:36 PM

Not sure that the ducks had a say in it. They had a very pleasant detached chalet which has disappeared and been replaced with rubble and plastic fencing. The work started in a rush but over the last couple of weeks seems to have ground to a halt

Last year there was a duck and a drake and half a dozen little ones who all grew up on the pond as one happy family

This year there were three ducklings but early in the season the parents went missing leaving the youngsters to fend for themselves. Without parental guidance you might have thought there would be an outbreak of vandalism, graffiti and increased duck knife crime but surprisingly they seemed to grow up quite well adjusted

with the chalet going missing, the parents disappearing and the workmen who haven't been seen for weeks I strongly suspect there is a black hole or something centred near here. It's not certain but if you are attending the beer festival watch your pint closely in case it disappears down the black hole !


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 01:06 PM

Guest was me, enquiring after the ducks. I have heard that the parents moved to Orpington and are training the Canada Geese to be good British citizens.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Terry - Hartley MM
Date: 03 Sep 08 - 01:56 PM

Hartley Morris Men will be dancing and singing at the Crown lunchtime and afternoon on Saturday 11. Pete Collins is hoping to join us too.
Terry


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 03 Sep 08 - 03:55 PM

OI kev, anywhere to leave me trailer, for the w/end


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 06 Sep 08 - 08:34 PM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 07 Sep 08 - 04:11 PM

Still no action on the pond - just one ugly mess where there should be a delightful feature - does anyone know what's happening (other than the obvious - nothing! :-) )


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Norcsalordie
Date: 10 Sep 08 - 04:46 PM

Have to echo the sentiments of Kev the Clogs - these are really enthusiastic people and deserve to have a success - really looking forward to this one


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Terry - Hartley MM
Date: 12 Sep 08 - 06:53 AM

Big Pete Collins will be joining Hartley MM for a sing after dancing at lunchtime/afternoon Saturday.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 11:24 AM

TDL won't be able to make it now because it clashes with BBC Young Folk Award semi finals which Ben has qualified for.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,synbyn
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 11:41 AM

Good luck with both- Ben played well at the Woodshed session in folk week, certainly deserves his chance- and one of theses days i'm going to catch up with the Norks!


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 14 Sep 08 - 12:02 PM

Thanks Bob for those kind words.Ben really enjoyed playing there. Who knows, he could be booked there soon.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 05:22 PM

Good luck to young Ben!!!

I have been keeping Mark, the Landlord of The Crown, fully briefed as to the response on this thread - he is very pleased with your comments and your pledges of support.

I should be able to list the beers that will be there in the the next couple of days.

Mark will be putting the beers in the "Smokers' Shack" (Smokers will have to smoke out in the open that weekend), Folkies in the Garden area (with the beers!!) and possibly a fire (It is a "solid" garden, pot plants and flower beds, but no grassed area, so I don't know how he is going to do the fire). Norcsalordie will be in the Restaurant Area. Hartley Morris will be dancing wherever there is space and I guess singing either outside or in the bar before the Norcs are on. My mate Rob, will be fire juggling from dusk onwards.

Still no official camping. If there is a big enough turn out, Mark will sort this out for next year. There are a limited number of B&Bs in the area, along with the Doddinington Manor Hotel. The nearest accommodation after that would be at Brands Hatch I guess or at the Clacket Lane service area on the M25 - SO, I suggest you plan where you are going to drop and how you are getting home in advance People!!!!

The new edition of The Good Beer Guide has just been published, and I am delighted to say that The Crown is in it after a gap of at least 10 years!!!!

I do think that it should be a good day/weekend!! Let's keep the support for Mark going.

Thanks Folks

Kev


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 15 Sep 08 - 05:35 PM

Oh f**8 ill sleep in the motor then,


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 11:14 AM

Just refreshing :-)


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Sep 08 - 08:04 PM

Sounds like it's going well Kev. Will pass your good luck message on to Ben.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 02:49 PM

As promised, a list of the beers that will be available over the weekend along with the tasting notes!!!!

TASTING NOTES FOR THE CROWN INN.

BRANSCOMBE – Branoc (3.8%)
A crisp amber bitter with a thin, but lasting white head. Dry malts and a dash of hops in this low abv session bitter; give it a clean and fresh taste.

BRECONSHIRE – Ramblers Ruin (5.0%)
A traditional old ale, dark amber, malty and well hopped, which provides malt/biscuit undertones; with a slight bitterness which comes from the hops, all of these ingredients give this beer an exceptional aftertaste.

DARK STAR – Hop Head (3.8%)
An extremely clean-drinking pale gold-coloured ale with a strong floral aroma and elderflower notes. This beer is full-bodied despite its very quaffable strength and dryness.

GRINDLETONS – Old Fecker (4.0%)
Chestnut in colour, with a hint of ruby and a strong malty aroma.

GOACHERS – Gold Star (5.0%)
An excellent fruit and hop mix in this golden ale. Peach/Apricot fruit in the mouth and then great hop taste at the end. Balanced and a great golden beer.

HESKET NEWMARKET – Doris's 90th Birthday (4.3%)
A full flavoured, fruity premium beer with hints of butterscotch, carefully balanced with bitterness from Fuggles, First Gold and Herzbrucker Haler hops.

MOLES – Rucking Mole (4.5%)
A chestnut coloured premium ale, with a malty, fruity palate and aroma and a smooth bitter finish.

POTTON – Village Bike (4.3%)
A complex beer, with hops blended from four different varieties, which provides this beer with an exceptional character.

ROBINSONS – Old Tom (8.5%)
A strong dark ale, dark chocolate in colour, with a slight hint of molasses and fruit on the nose, with a rich, warming peppery taste.

SPRINGHEAD – Goodrich Castle (4.4%)
Brewed following a 13th century recipe using Rosemary. A Pale ale, light on the palate with a bitter finish and delicate flavour.

YORK – Centurions Ghost (5.4%)
A warming, dark bitter ale, with a roasted malt taste. Very easy to drink for its strength.

BIDDENDEN – Bushels (6%)
A pale strong cider, made from culinary and dessert apples, which give this cider a sweetness, which isn't to over powering, with slight hints of lemon running through until the aftertaste.

How good is that then!!!!!

Kev


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 06:08 PM

Nice Kev

Branscombe Brewery - Seaton Devon

Breconshire Brewery - Brecon

Dark Star Brewery - Haywards Heath - Sussex

Grindletons - Clitheroe - Lancashire

Goachers - Maidstone - Kent

Hesket Newmarket - Cumbria

Moles Brewery - Melksham - Wiltshire

Potton Brewery - Sandy - Bedfordshire

Robinsons Brewery - Stockport - Cheshire

Springhead Brewery - Sutton on Trent - Notts

York Brewery - Micklegate - York

Biddenden Cider - Biddenden - Kent


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 07:19 PM

Thanks for spending the time doing that Guest - much appreciated :-)


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 10:49 AM

JOE!!!!!!!!!

I've just set up a new account for the Landlord at The Crown (The subject of this thread!!) - and on the first attempt, I set it up and wondered why all of my past, archieved messages etc were in HIS account, so I deleted them!!!! Any way that I can get them back please??!!!! Mark, The Landlord is Donkey. If it can't be done, then I've learnt an important lesson, but it would be nice to see all of the threads that I have traced for the last year or so for reference purpose!

Thanks Joe :-)


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 11:02 AM

There's some fantastic ales in that list. Shame we won't be there. What's the beer like in Warwickshire?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 11:06 AM

Hi

I'm the landlord of the crown

Just spoken to Westerham brewary we will have for the beer festival, Two new beers

1 is a one off Ordit ale that will only be bottle ABV 6.3 in a cask for us.

2 Green hop autunm ale

Mark


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 03:21 PM

and the Westerham Brewery


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 24 Sep 08 - 02:32 PM

Hi Mark

nice to have you in the thread. this is becoming an obsession with me - I pass the country's only listed duckpond ten times a week and it looks more like a Barrett's Homes development and has done for month's

Your pub looks out on to it and your customers sit on the little terrace overlooking it (just trying to establish relevance to the thread :-) )

can you tell us what is happening there ?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 05:57 AM

Hi

Awaiting English heragig as nobody told them about what work was to be carried out. So we are left with a building site, and now rocks are going missing. Extra work as audi 800 went over top last week end good wake up call at 5am.

Mark the Crown


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 06:57 AM

So many beers so little time .
Why dont we go fix it up, like them urban gardeners that keep springing up in the news, planting things and gardening all over the shop. we could turn up late one night with the stuff we need mob handed and in the morning a prety pond as it should be, have to plan it first though


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 07:37 AM

Nice idea Ken, trouble is, the Otford Mafia (Twin sets and pearls - and that's just the men) wouldn't be too pleased about it!! Still, you could bring Uncle Amos :-)


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 05:10 PM

Thanks for the info Mark

Can't say I'm surprised that English Heritage want a closer look at it. To a passer-by it looks like someone is building an ornamental pond using breeze blocks and lumps of rock - shame they got so far

by the way Mark - good luck with the new rockery ! :-)


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 25 Sep 08 - 08:51 PM

The idea is that they took out all of the existing rocks (the ones that are piled nicely - but disappearing rapidly!), and then "seeled" the walls of the pond with the breeze blocks. THEN they were going to put the rocks back, so that you didn't see the breeze blocks, and the rocks would also be pointed so that they looked natural. All of this was going to be done to ensure that the pond didn't leak, which it has done for years.

You must remember though, that this is Sevenoaks Council, and they gave the go ahead for the pond to be renovated in this manner. You would assume that they would have been in discussions with English Heritage as well. When all of the shouting has been done, the pond will continue being renovated in the same, originally planned way - you mark my words!!! I have been talking to one of the contractors who was working on it.

Meanwhile, the Ducks are being looked after very well just up the road; the duck house has been cleaned and dried and wrapped up and stored ready for putting back as soon as possible AND the council have requested that there be no illegal fish dumping in the pond as they have to be THE RIGHT FISH that live in it!!!

Never fear, the Otford Mafia will be on the case very soon, if not already, and will be giving the council grief.

Such a sleepy little village too :-)


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 04:25 AM

Do you know exactly what is listed then Kev - is it just the concept of a duckpond there ?

the new construction seems to involve a polythene liner along with the breeze blocks - I would imagine there are more traditional duckponds around the country


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 09:06 AM

As far as I know, it's the pond itself - however,as I said before, it has leaked for years and past attempts to stem the flow have been fruitless. They worked on it about a year or two ago, when they completely relined it with a new covering of clay (which also gave it a very sureal green tint!!).

All seemed to be well for a while, the Duck House and the Ducks returned, and all appeared hunky-dorey. Unbeknown to us, was the fact that it was still leaking and was running the risk of contaminating surrounding areas, including the natural spring that is there.

So as far as I can gather the "listed" pond, the facia, was to be removed, the edge was to be breeze blocked and polythened, the original rocks replaced "as was", remortared, and the base re-clayed. Thus producing a "listed", original and natural looking feature that has been there for years (just with some modern techniques employed underneath and unseen, to help it cope with the demands of 21st century!!).

So really, in that respect, it's the concept that is "listed". I guess that English Heritage need to be reassured that regardless of how it has been repaired, the "Outside look and feel" will be as they were before they started the work.

I'll have a chat with one of the blokes who has been working on it next week hopefully.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: melodeonboy
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 09:34 AM

I think I detect a tad of thread drift, but I'm enjoying it immensely! I've never seen duck ponds discussed before on Mudcat!

Could this be the harbinger of an "Otford Duck Pond" thread?

Quack, quack, splash!


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 09:46 AM

Lets just do it up and run, sod em, its better than the building site its been for so long, all it takes is nerve planning and speed, the otford mafia can go string pearls, cor aint i being polite,
then we can go get drunk and deny all knowledge. Amos says go do it. an he scares me.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 11:34 AM

Will Sevenoaks Concil put the duck's rent up because of all this?
If the work is carried out to a high standard they'd be quackers! not to


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 04:17 PM

Guilty as charged Melodeonboy - I'm responsible and the thread has drifted about twenty yards max

last year's family of ducks was absolutely charming - easily seen from the saloon of The Crown public house in Otford Kent where the beer and folk festival is being held on the weekend of 10-12 October (back on thread)

it was a duck and drake and six little ones all of whom grew to adulthood in the pond while dodging the occasional Audi 800 going for a swim. My fondest memory is of the duck and drake standing side by side on the bank overlooking the pond and the six tiny little ducklings all swimming round in a group in the water just beneath them - aaahhhhhhhh ! - come on, you can do better than that - AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH !

Anyway I think I'll go for the Grindletons and as my mum's name was Doris I shall drink to her memory with the Hesket Newmarket Doris's 90th birthday


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 26 Sep 08 - 04:44 PM

Orange Sauce?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 27 Sep 08 - 12:29 PM

Hi

Friday night was prune stuffing & a tart gooseberry sauce, with fiddle fit.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat
Date: 29 Sep 08 - 07:38 PM

I have checked me shift rota Im off the Friday.Sat,Sun, see you all there.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 03:37 AM

ducks on the pond this morning - diving into the murky turquoise waters looking for fish - probably not much hope unless there were some illegals in there


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 07:20 AM

I aint there so cant be me


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Terry - Hartley MM
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 12:05 PM

Good to see Mark is on the thread and has an impressive list of beers. With all those casks I hope we will still have room to dance.
Terry


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Terry - Hartley MM
Date: 30 Sep 08 - 02:58 PM

Having spoken to Mark, Hartley will be dancing out the back at 2pm followed by singing in the bar accompanied by Big Pete Collins during the afternoon.
As Mark says "the beer will flow". See you all there.
Terry


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 04:37 AM

Hi

All big tent is here just a fire pit to get oh yes beer arrives next Wednesday, looking forward to seeing you all.

Mark & Fiona @ the crown


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 05:12 AM

lets start wednesday then,


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 08:08 AM

Oh, crap. Big honey and chocolate cake voice Collins and all that beer. I was going to have a weekend off and it's a mother of a drive, but I might just have to show up...


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 12:07 PM

Nah weekend off is for those non drinking types, shame no place for the vardos then we could have a real session


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: dilligafxx
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 01:35 PM

If the Duck house is empty we could all camp there or how about just pitching our tents outside the church that should lower the tone of the place, in such an outstanding area of property values too
Just polishing me pearls now so will not look out of place. Twin set washed and tweed skirt ironed. Anyone for Sherry?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 01 Oct 08 - 04:20 PM

no no sherry how common, port and stilton my dear, simply must keep up the tone dont you know, still with the credit crunch ,otford may well be falling flat, (well it will saturday) the poor ol ducks will be buying all the property, as the prices are (ahem, sorry) crumb -ling, should be able to earn a crust or two to pay for the ever dropping property prices, lets camp in the car park, some of my relatives seem to get away with it for ten days before the eviction notice appears ,so a weekend should be fine, ooooohhhhhh how the mafia will cringe, i could make some pegs and luchy heather just to rub it in.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 02:28 AM

Hi Guys and Gals

a strange request - could I ask you to have a look in the "Leicester has a Folk Club again" thread and leave a comment if you feel that way disposed

Thanks

Rafflesbear


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 02 Oct 08 - 04:56 AM

to avoid thread drift I have started a specific one relating to the name Norcsalordie

thanks


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 02:58 AM

We have bits and pieces in different messages but it would be good to have the full programme if someone knows it - hog roast and any non-folk events as well plus any gaps where spontaneous singing might fit in

PS - the ducks were back yesterday - I think they may have been given the contract to restore the pond 'cos no-one else is doing anything :-)

PPS - unless one of them was romany man in disguise


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 04:17 AM

Hi

Fri 12:oo Beer tent opens
    18:00 Sausage BBQ Bicson,Snake & Roo.
    21:00 John Mcdevit sings

Sat 11:oo Beer tent opens
    14:00 Hartley Morris Dance & then sing for the rest of the day
    18:00 Bobo the clown & Hog roast
    19:00 Fire juggling
    21:00 Norcsalordie
    23:00 Camp fire

Sun 11:00 Beer tent let's get it finished
    12:00 Crowns Sunday roast


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 04:52 AM

Thanks Mark - see you soon :-)


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 05:41 AM

Hi

New addition to whats going on next weekend Granny & Grandad racing.

Donkey the Crown


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 09:22 AM

Are you insured against heart attacks Donkey?
We've always fancied Road Knight Jousting as a sport with combatants in mobility scooters, with crutches as lances.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: dilligafxx
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 02:49 PM

Is it legal to roast a clown along with the hog and snake thought you had those in puddings snake and kidney No ? oh well it will save the ducks
As a poor elderly widowed Grandmother what's the prize if I win the race? A pearl necklace? one does love a pearl necklace xx ps Save Roo he should not be BBQd take Kev there,s more meat on him xx


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 09:40 AM

kevs got more meat than seamus (those who know will understand) and dont think im roasting seamus, Love the pearls dillligafxx


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Terry - Hartley MM
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 11:02 AM

Rafflesbear asked about the programme - 'any gaps where spontaneous singing might fit in.' Whilst Hartley and Big Pete will be entertaining during Saturday afternoon it is not our intention to exclude any other singers who may wish to join in the session. They will be guarenteed a good choral response. We prefer spontinaity to formalised round the room singing in turn.
Terry


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 02:38 PM

me ferrets cant sing, will they be excluded on the grounds of being ferrets from treacle mines, or ferrets that cant sing, on a serious note any signs of anywhere to park caravan,


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: growler
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 04:49 PM

If The other two are available, you could be invaded bt 'Ruff and Reddy ', if you feel you are up to it


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 05:28 PM

I went to Camden Market yesterday and got a Raccoon Hat for £20.00 and I knocked them down a fiver. real Racoon, tail and all. My cat Sammy took a fancy to it and tried to give it one on the settee. So funny. Deffinatly a Hat for Knockholt. and other fests.very unusual.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 05:44 PM

steady pete, ifn me ferrets get to see it god only knows what will happen,


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 05:57 PM

It fits squarely an nicely on me remote controlled car. I could have some fun with this,If i make a small slit at the base of the tail I could afix the tail on and over the arial an cover the car with the Hat.Heh Heh.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 08:55 PM

I think points should be deduckted for deviation.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: dilligafxx
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 05:47 AM

Do we get extra points for how many deviants we can get on a thread? if so what qualifies as a deviant, whats normal for one is strange for another !! This could be a whole new thread xx


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 06:19 AM

Much philosphy there Dilligaf. Perversion in sex is like spice in food. Without any, things get boring. But I thought the BG donkey kong was somebody else...

I think I'm with the Mick Farren view - We are the people our mothers warned us about... (well, I could name one or two in Hartley who qualify, who else have a singing sheep or a man with pockets longer than his arms... )

I'm still knitting myself my very own sheep with the kit TDL gave me at Knockers...


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 08:42 AM

Aaagh Mick Farren, now he was a Deviant, but he left and they became Pink Fairies! Now Twink, he was a short term Pretty Thing and he became a fairy too!


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 09:23 AM

I dont think the ferrets should assosiate with you lot


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: dilligafxx
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 09:43 AM

Excuse me I know where your ferrets have been!! do I need to say more than HETTY xx


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 02:30 PM

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh you said the h word, go wash your mouth out young lady, and i use the term loosley (oh i dunno how to spell loosly) for the animal lovers out there the ferrets have now recovered but i think treacle is damaged for lfe.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 04:33 PM

Pete the Hat could market that remote controlled "Rocket the Racoon" thing. This year's must have Christmas toy for the discerning cat and ferret.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 05:28 PM

I thought the Beatles wrote that "Rocket Raccoon".


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 05:32 PM

Almost RB. I am having a Rocket J. Squirrel from Bulwinkle Moose cartoon flash back.

Hey Pete the Hat. If they are really are going to do a grey squirrel cull in the Uk to protect red squirrels, there's your source for long furry tails. Now I sound like a deviant.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 05:45 PM

Richard you are quite right Rocky Raccoon was written by
Paul Macartney in I


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 05:51 PM

Sorry about that above Mr Moderator my finger slipped.

Has I was saying Richard Rocky The Raccoon was written
by Paul Macartney while the beatles were in india or correctly Paul and John were in India. The Albam was the White Albam
               Released in 1968.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete The Hat.
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 06:18 PM

Virginia Tam.
One cannot make a sauce from long furry tails.Its the hairs you see? They tend to cause discomfort in the back of the ones throut and once they lodge there ,there the Devil to get rid of.

See you all at the Crown.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 08:54 PM

Right all you lot of deviants. put down your knitting needles, the sheep can wait. Because TDL can't be there, can you please pass the word about our Fox and Hounds Folk Club being very good, and FREE! Norcs did a brilliant job on their website but we still need more bums on seats. The beer's very gluggable and not overly expensive. There is food if you want it too. Thanks. Sue


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 06:27 AM

Its what's for dinner :-)


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,woodsie
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 08:13 AM

Are you travelling down by train pete? Have you sorted a B&B?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Girl Friday
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 09:10 AM

Could be roadkill? Nah- they do all sorts. You can have a pasty or burger with or without chips through to proper meals.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 12:48 PM

Woodsie
I am going by train but have not sorted out B&B yet. I cannot see many people being there hence not being very good Friday because folk have to work so I may be looking at the Saturday only.

I will Email you my mobile number later. Theres a thin chance I may have to work Saturday it unlikely but could happen. I will bell yiou Friday if you submit me you home number. when you get mine.

Cheers Pete


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 01:21 PM

well having spent the best part of today driving round otford, i cant find anywhere suitable for us hardy campers, perhaps someone else knows anywhere if not well have to sort some thing. road kills is lovely, peter dont bring the hat i have not fed the ferrets,


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete the hat
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 02:16 PM

It appears I have to work Saturday & Sunday now? I shall phone in Wednesday Morn to appeal to my ops managers in protest that I booked this up last week and no one has done sod all about it.

I shall not bother coming Friday has I fear I will be the only one there and if I turn up Saturday it will be on a wing and a prayer. Fingers Crossed.
Peeved off Pete.

Romany man I saw you ferrets dancing round the field near the fire at Knockholt. you should make them little waist coats with felt hats and feathers ?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 06:11 AM

Hi

20 kegs here & ready to go cider checked all ok.

Donkey


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 09:56 AM

this is ONLY A POSSIBILITY at the moment! There MIGHT be indoor camping at the local Scout hut at 5 quid for the night followed by a breakfast at the Crown on Sunday morning - price to be determined. This is ONLY a possibility - please indicate if you are interested.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: dilligafxx
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 02:43 PM

Do I get a scout for that as well ? can I have a venture one if I get to choose xx


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: dilligafxx
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 02:44 PM

ps I.ll ask before Romany man does do they take ferrets as Hetty is coming and she may need to know xx


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 03:21 PM

My ferrets protest most strongly at having to sleep in the vicinity of hetty the ferret molester,damn deviant


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 04:55 PM

Sorry Romany Man, Hettie has already bagged my spare matress in my study......


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 04:58 PM

.....still, if she were to find out that the ferrets were going to be on the scene, she might just give my place a miss. Be afraid ferrets, be very afraid..........


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 05:01 PM

......yeahhhhhhhhhh!!

The Scout Hut is AVAILABLE for all of you to do a spot of Indoor Camping (some of you do that very well anyway!!)

Five pounds per night. Full English breakfast in The Crown on Sunday morning (price to be set by Mark).

OK, make it known on this thread please if you want to use the hut and the have the breakfast.

Now that, I think, will solve a lot of people's problems (apart from RM's ferrets :-)    )


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 08:23 PM

I think I might - arrive Fri pm, camp, F orf Sat sober :(

Or maybe Sat - Sun

I will eschew Denzil D paws to save dog/ferret fights....


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 08:42 PM

Not much of interest for you on the Friday night Hoff. I'd go for the Saturday, Sunday option.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 09 Oct 08 - 03:23 AM

Hi Kev

I'm new to the concept of indoor camping - we bears tend to just find a tree and kip under it

What do you need?

As it's in the Scout Hall I'd like to be prepared


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: melodeonboy
Date: 09 Oct 08 - 03:44 AM

DYB, DYB, DYB!!


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 Oct 08 - 04:06 AM

I'd suggest listening to the Tom Lehrer song a few times, and then take sleeping bag, liko, pump, washing gear, clean socks and pants - and the items his song suggests, but you might need to go behind the bike sheds to use the latter.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 09 Oct 08 - 10:53 AM

thr ferrets are on valium bnow, since i told them of the dreaded hetty deviant person, they are off their food, hiding in corners and generally not their usual friendly selves, oh poor defenceless things,
Kev, crayford ? comments?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 Oct 08 - 11:07 AM

You should feed the ferrets red meat and red wine, and remind them that although comparisons are odious, Seamus may be of more interest to any deviants...


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 09 Oct 08 - 02:33 PM

Crayford? Comments? On the PLACE or the CONCEPT?

The concept is great - the pub is very good - the place, well, waht can be said about Crayford that hasn't been said already? I come from down the road in Plumstead. Very similar.

Looking forward to it!

Kev


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 09 Oct 08 - 05:06 PM

good, they want it on the ninth as thats basically the best date for them, if this thing becomes a regular venue then we can get a firm regular time, even if its once every couple of months or monthly, they are trying so hard to make this a good day for everyone but they are getting jittery, as the only real contact with folk was when the gongscourers had their day there, the staff are so keen, id hate it for them to fail in their goal. richard i could take seamus if it means peace for treacle and obvious, but then hetty would suffer withdrawl symptoms, they dont like wine but love red meat and good beer.
seamus will be at the crayford arms for definate.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 03:46 AM

They tucked into the remainder of bolognese sauce at Knockholt, and believe me that had red wine in...


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 04:40 AM

Hi

Beers already tested hic & safe slept withh 22 lovely kegs last night.

Donkey


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 04:45 AM

ooohhh to sleep with twenty four kegs, or is that a deviant thing to do, the ferrets love beer, and hey richard you are right , ive just given obvious the last drops in the glass and he wolfed it down, so did treacle, hhmm this could get expensive, what with wine drinking ferrets, beer swilling horse, god knows what the rats will get up to, should folk have a health warning for animals that think they are people, should hetty have a health warni   no lets not go there, see you 2morrow, save some beer for me and the ferrets, Donkey they are pub friendly ferrets,


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Dead Horse
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 06:02 AM

Who's he callin a beer swillin horse?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,PETE THE HAT
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 07:30 AM

YEAH........SOD IM COMING MY MANAGERS SCREWED UP MY BOOKED LEAVE THATS THERE LOOKOUT OFFICALLY I BOOKED THIS WEEKEND OFF, COMING FRIDAY. NIGHT GOING HOME SUNDAY 2 NIGHTS IN SCOUT HUT PLEASE AND A BREAKFASR FOR SAT AND SUNDAY. BE IN OTFORD TODAY ABOUT 3 OCLOCK


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 07:39 AM

Feed the farrets Red meat and Redwine. ,,Vets bills for gout are very expensive.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 10:58 AM

they are on their way to gout any way, is daed horse coming to crayford


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: fisheye
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 03:30 PM

If all goes well, myself and George should be there Sat about 1pm, and if I can pursued George to drive I may get to sample some of the beers.

fisheye


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 05:08 PM

I am likely to no-show. Work again...


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 05:02 PM

Succeeded in getting there at about 6 pm. Home now (10 pm) Merite pas la voyage.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 08:36 PM

Absolutely cracking night with Norcsalordie - had the crowd dancing from 21:00 to 00:00 - superb choice of songs.

They have been asked back next year

Great beer, great pub, great landlord and landlady, great weather, great music - have I missed anything ?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 12 Oct 08 - 04:49 AM

Hi

A big thank you to you all for making our 1st beerfest a great day, already planning next years. Will be 2nd weekend in October if that fits in with fests will confirm when date are sorted. Totally nacked with still sunday to go (anybody want some old bones).

Donkey & Breathless slug


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Oct 08 - 05:04 AM

Missed anything?

Oafs watching association football
Slappers dancing in the street with their tinny speakers balanced on top of parked cars
Rivers of puke running down the pavement in the street
A juke box system louder in the garden than Norcsalodie with their PA system
Cold hogroast with leather crackling and no English mustard


Still, at least by the time I got there there was no margarine (this is not about food).


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 12 Oct 08 - 08:12 AM

I guess you liked it then Hoff!!??

A very good day - shame I couldn't manage to make most of it, but my stomach and Acid indegestion were working overtime (I may have been in the South of England, but my stomach kept wanting to go VERY North!!)

Mark - great beer and well kept - I did manage to sample five halves before I had to retire.

Some mutterings from those that sampled the hog roast - there wasn't enough of it. The popular consensus was that at least two slices of meet would have been value for money, along with some apple sauce. Those that sampled said it was very good - I could only look on.

Great chatting to Norcsalordie again, and SO nice to finally meet Rafflesbear!!!

I'm feeling much better today - hope to see all of you in the next couple of weeks.

Kev


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 12 Oct 08 - 08:33 AM

The beer was good. There was enough meat in my hogroast - maybe I'd have wanted more if it had been hot, and if the crackling had crackled.

Those were the good bits.

Otford is also a pain to get to from Maidstone - old A25,the impenetrable 7oaks road spder's web, and a pain to get home from to Upper Dogsbottom, Webfoot Island, up therandom speed limits of the A225 and then the lane closures on M25 and A2.

Bah. There is another site on which I am "Mr VeryGrumpy".


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 12 Oct 08 - 02:39 PM

Oh Dear! To cheer you all up.. Ben did very well in the competition, though he won't know until tomorrow p.m. if he's got to the next round. As for Stratford On Avon, it's not like it was 30 years ago, but where is? The main roads were a no go area as there was a fair on. Imagine Battersea Funfair lining the high Street of anytown, but on speed. Strobe lighting I cannot handle. We hoped to find a pub to play in on Friday, but there was a private party on with loads of kids. The town was chav central with kids everywhere all trying to outshout each other. Still it gave us a new song which we have recorded on video. Look out YouTube.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 12 Oct 08 - 04:11 PM

Hi GF - I think you are just trying to make Richard feel better about going to Otford rather than Stratford on Avon - glad to hear another chart-topper has been born

Anyone interested in a few photos of the Festival can find them here

Otford Beer Festival


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete The Hat
Date: 12 Oct 08 - 04:57 PM

Thanks for a great time really enjoyed it and did not mind lending a helping hand when it was needed. I must admit thats the first time I have picked up a Pig in broad daylight outside a pub ?

Great Landlord/lady/. Thanks for allowing me to sleep in the Beer tent (That shows that you both need your brains tested, (Only joking) I liked the trust and the shelter and you landlord had a decent nights sleep knowing you had top security in your beer tent.Hic

Most Memorable moment was a women face.
When I guessed that blomd haired womens old dogs age by the gray hairs on its rear end she was completely bewildered and I was one year out (not bad).

Great to see all the Knockholters . Excellent Real Ale, food, music weather solo artists and band, My pig roast was very good.

worse moment was deciding weather to get the lift back home on Saturday night or sleeping in the beer tent. I also had pulled a nice women by thenor the other way round actully who suggested her place.or some place
I decided to except the lift. At the end of the day, Enough is has good has a Fiest and I had to go to work to earn me weadge to keep me to the social life I have become so accustomed too. I hope Sunday went well and look forward to this great Beer and Folk feast next year.Great stuff.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: fisheye
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 06:01 AM

as a first attempt i would suggest it went down very well, the beers i tried were excellent especially the 'old tom' hog roast was nice if a little lacking in volume and cold. entertainment during the day was more directed towards the family. Morris dancing i cannot comment as i am not an expert. The duo in the evening were great and if you would like a repeat they are at the Folkmob this weds i believe.
all in all i had a good day and will return again next year.

Fisheye


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 02:00 PM

after saying how much I enjoyed it at the end of it all I did bring my guitar down solely for the evening singaround which was planned for the Saturday evening inside the pub prior to the band coming on outside .

I know all the ,Morrismen ventured inside after they had done there outside slot and continued inside with shanties which were very good but what happened to the singaround in regards to all the guitarists? It did not happen in the end we all played outside mostly to each other. By the time the Morrismen had finished the Fire had been lighted and outside games had been set up, with punch and judy and solo artists like the fire chap and the pub in side was deserted apart from the crowd who had come to watch the football. Im not moaning Iam just stating that folk turned up to play for the singaround and it was forgotten about. which is a shame. still for a first it was excellent and Iam sure a tighter routeen without football can be set up for next year?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,NORCSALORDIE/MESSAGE FROM PETE THE HAT
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 04:37 PM

NOSCSALORDIE PLAYS THE TUDOR BARN HOME OF FOLKMOB WED 15TH OCTOBER
CLUB OPENS AT 730 BRING YOUR OWN BEER. BAND STARTS AROUND 9PM.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete the Hat
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 12:25 AM

Noscsalordie plays Tudor Barn home of FOLKMOB check Folkmob WEB SITE on folkmob.com. find info in diary of events on home page.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 04:11 AM

all that and still the pond is a bomb site. oh i was tempted to sort it out, had i brought the truck and me tools, i could have sorted it then got drunk, but alas i was driving, poor old kev, i didnt laugh honest, still at least i got to drive to kevs with three women in the car, including the infamous hetty, but as the ferrets were at home i felt safe, (so did they) good day though yes the hog roast could have been hotter and more of it in the roll but hey ho all things to sort for next year, hope crayford goes as well as otford, the difference is crayford is not an organised bash, its for the folkies to make thier own day out of it.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 08:24 AM

Is the Otford duckpond the only listed eyesore in Britain ?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 08:31 AM

PS - they've put the duck house and ducks back in the hopes we don't notice the boards, builders bags, plastic fencing, pile of stones, general rubble and the fact that it is half empty


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 10:37 AM

Hi

All notes have been taken in, changes will be made we will be looking for a beer swilling corinator for next year so we can loo after the pig & beer, please call.

Donkey & Breathless slug


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 11:13 AM

poor ducks they must feel like i do when im on the road, bloody farmers now moaning they cant get the apples picked cos all the poles wont work for nothing, all we wanted was a pound a bushell and a place to stop, cor i dunno


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 11:33 AM

Is there a pathway from the other bar to the garden? It would be better than trying to get beer-singaround-beer-etc (if the singaround was in the other bar) without going past the big-screen lot.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Pete the hat
Date: 16 Oct 08 - 07:44 AM

I agree with Richard. I do not wish to walk past a load of screaming footie fans at a folk bash,
Prefer it if you didnt have them at all at a folk week end but you cannot I understand turn away trade so a alturnate route next year would be great.

In regards to Hogroast being cold,,,,,,Im with Donkey on that one its hard to keep a hog hot with a endless line of customers awaiting feeding and you cant have the heat on while serving folk.I noticed there were a lot of mouths to feed over a long period of time so keeping the Hog hot is not really possible. Heat lamps are the answer,

Has for the lack of English Mustard...........I cannot abide the bloody stuff the smell turns me guts .


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Donkey
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 04:50 AM

Hi

Most things are a avaiable i.e. mustard please ask.

If there is football next time we will find a way.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 03:35 PM

I've created a BS thread for the ducks if anyone is interested :-)


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 04:12 PM

Should that not be DS?

Quack!


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 06:46 PM

Quackin' good show Raffles. I shall dip beneath the surface immediately.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: romany man
Date: 21 Oct 08 - 07:43 PM

the action is always below the surface


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 31 Oct 08 - 04:21 PM

probably the best thread to announce that The Woodman just along the road has gone up for sale - what chance it staying a pub ?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 06:26 PM

It has in fact, been sold! Learnt this this afternoon. No further news - will keep you posted.


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 03:36 AM

hi Kev - the lights were out in the Woodman last night - is that terminal?


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Subject: RE: The Crown, Otford - Beer & Folk weekend
From: Girl Friday
Date: 11 Nov 08 - 06:32 PM

Off topic but re Trevor. He had a bad heart attack on Monday morning, it ptobably started Sunday afternoon . Swift treatment at Kings. No more fags and no driving for a month.


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