lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland

Subject: lyric book
From: marlboro
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 04:24 PM

Hi everyone

Just found The Mudcat Cafe. Can anyone advise me on where/how to get a lyric/songbook foe folk/trad songs of Northumberland as I want to get an anniversary gift for a friend fron up north who knows beautiful songs patchily.
Thanks
Marlboro

Subject: RE: lyric book
From: Willa
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 04:36 PM

A CD rather than a book, but may include the lyrics as is often the case.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/tg/detail/offer-listing/-/B0000082RO/new

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Joe Offer
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 04:52 PM

Hmmmm. I haven't seen the book myself, but there was a slim paperback called Folk Songs of Northumberland, by Gwen Marchant Polwarth, published by University of Newcastle Upon Tyne Adult Education Department, Newcastle Upon Tyne, 1966 - it's 48 pages.

Keep checking this thread - you'll note that I expanded the thread title a bit. Maybe somebody from the UK can give better information.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: marlboro
Date: 30 Aug 08 - 06:23 PM

thank you Willa and Joe.looks like a very good start.
\marlboro

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Dave (Bridge)
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 04:21 AM

There is a book called Nortumbrian Minstrelsy, which I believe is still available. ISBN number 1 86143 039 6. Ballads, melodies and small pipe tunes of Northumbria by Bruce and Stokoe. Good Luck

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 05:57 AM

While I would certainly endorse Northumbrian Minstrelsy, and good luck with your search for it, I would also suggest that you search for *#1PEASANT* (Conrad Blaney)on this forum which could lead you to the Tyneside songs that he has published on line.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: peregrina
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 06:05 AM

Thomas Allan: Allan's Illustrated Edition of Tyneside Songs and Readings with Lives, Portraits and Autographs of the Writers and Notes on the Songs

--you could trawl itunes for individual song titles, buy some tracks, and make a compilation CD

and have look here for a top ten

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: GUEST,buspassed
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 06:19 AM

I'm getting tired of waiting for someone to buy me the complete Northumbrian Anthology, judging from the snipetts I've heard it's stunning, it's also £150+ so here goes....

Dear Santa.........

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Anglogeezer
Date: 31 Aug 08 - 03:24 PM

This site may be of interest to you FARNE , the Folk Archive North East.
I've not made use of it myself, just came across it one day, as you do!!

regards
Jake

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 08:24 PM

I hope this works for you. (Depending on what country you're in, it might not.)

I found the following books are viewable at Google Book Search:

The Northumbrian Minstrel: A Choice Selection of Songs. Alnwick: Printed by W. Davison, 1811.

M. A. Richardson, The Local Historian's Table Book of Remarkable Occurrences, Historical Facts, Traditions, Legendary and Descriptive Ballads, &c., &c., Connected with the Counties of Newcastle-upon-Tyne, Northumberland and Durham. Newcastle-upon-Tyne: M. A. Richardson, 1841-6. Vol. 2, Vol. 3

Bell, John. Rhymes of Northern Bards: Being a Curious Collection of Old and New Songs and Poems Peculiar to the Counties of Newcastle Upon Tyne, Northumberland, and Durham. Newcastle upon Tyne: Printed for John Bell by M. Angus & Son, 1812.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 01 Sep 08 - 10:44 PM

Google graciously permits UK users to access these UK books, so probably everybody else can see them too. Bell's work in particular is a classic.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: nutty
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 03:54 AM

Also - this site with the poems and songs of Joseph Skipsey

Minor Victorian Poets

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: nutty
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 04:16 AM

ALSO ..... www.abe books.co.uk have a used copy of FOLK SONGS of NORTHUMBERLAND by GWEN MARCHANT POLWARTH for £10.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: pavane
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 05:13 AM

Note that Google Book search does list different books in different countries, i.e. it takes note that copyright rules are different. You can get around this by using a different address, thus

http://books.google.fr for France.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: pavane
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 05:16 AM

The two books mentioned by Jim above are also available for download from Google Books as PDF files.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 05:57 AM

Look out for Joseph Crawhall's Buek o' Newcassel Sangs, published in a facsimile edition in 1965 by Frank Graham; copies can still be found in antiquarian bookshops. There's a copy Here for £42. Fine songs, illustrated by Crawhall's famous & distinctive woodcuts.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: nutty
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 06:43 AM

the Crawhall book is allso on line here

Conrad Bladey's Beuk O'Newcassel Sangs

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 06:53 AM

Mr Bladey's site, comprehensive though it undoubtedly is, in no way shape or form conveys the exquisite marrying of text & image that was Crawhall's intention. On the contrary - the clumsy reduction of Crawhall's beautiful woodcut lines to poor quality scans not only lacks the aesthetic authenticity of the originals but is in extremely bad taste.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: nutty
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 07:23 AM

BUT IB - it makes the material available to all. Not many would be able to afford the £42 for a used original which you obviously would prefer.

I consider that accessability is more important and thank Conrad for his efforts.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 07:41 AM

Sorry, Nutty - but I fear Mr Crawhall would be turning in his grave.

Saying that, I am hardly above appropriating Crawhall's images for use on the Word Wide Web - for example the page I did to accompany the Shibboleth album Hyem, features a good many of Crawhall's woodcuts, variously textured & coloured as digital images to accompany the texts of the (mostly) traditional songs thereupon. See Here. Other images too of course; various chapbook cuts & photographs of the old collieries of South-East Northumberland dear to the hearts of the musicians, but also, hopefully, respectful to the source.

As for accessibility; I feel such things ought to be hard won to have a value, and by their rarity they are all the more precious. In that sense £42 is a veritable bargain. I wouldn't be averse to an on-line facsimile however, feeling sure such a thing must exist somewhere...

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Dave Sutherland
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 07:42 AM

Agreed nutty I was more interested in someone getting the words of the songs; that's why I mentioned it about three days ago.

Subject: RE: lyric book - trad songs of Northumberland
From: Tootler
Date: 02 Sep 08 - 05:25 PM

The Northumbrian Minstrelsy is available in Facsimile from Llanerch Press. I got my copy direct from them.