Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 18 Jun 23 - 02:36 PM

Since most of us learned the song as something of a children's song from records of Burl Ives or Pete Seeger, and since the "Jimmy" refrain now seems nonsensical, it's no wonder Futurama considered the whole piece absurdly cheesy or, um, "corny."

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 18 Jun 23 - 09:38 AM

The use the songin 'Futurama' whenever Bender the robot gets affected by a magnet and starts singing Folk music.

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 18 Jun 23 - 09:29 AM

The earliest known text (1842 - with the "Mr. Bugger" refrain) was printed anonymously. Fuld had no access to this version, which has only recently been digitized. Though the newspaper it appeared in was published in St. Augustine, Fla., it may have been printed earlier in a big-city paper, not every page of which has survived.

As the openings lines show, it was clearly from a stage performance:

I have sung about the long-tail blue,
So often you want something new,
With your desire I'll now comply,
My song is about a blue tail fly.

The minstrel song "My Long-Tail Blue" was printed in the Louisiana Register (Apr. 11, 1834). The N.Y. Evening Post (Dec. 15, 1834) noted it was sung by "Mr. [Thomas D.] Rice," the noted blackface performer who had created the character "Jim Crow" in 1829-30, to judge from newspaper notices.

It would be tempting to cite Rice as the composer of the 1842 "BTF," but others may have "borrowed" and sung "My Long-Tail Blue" in the years between 1834 and 1842.


The 1846 BTF sheet music is titled "The Virginia Minstrels, No. 5, 'Jim Crack Corn,' or The Blue-Tail Fly, Composed for the Piano Forte."
No composer is specified, the piece being copyrighted in the name of F. D. Benteen, the Baltimore publisher. The song was advertised as "new" in the "Times and Compiler" (Richmond) on Dec. 3, 1846, though
The title "Jim crack corn" is mentioned in passing in the Yale Literary Magazine for July, 1846. The tune is a variant of that popularized by Burl Ives:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKZDeJ7cajI



Daniel D. Emmett (composer of "Dixie" and "Old Dan Tucker") was the founder and principal player of the Virginia Minstrels, organized in 1843. In 1842 he was already a blackface circus performer. He may have been behind the earlier version of BTF, or he may later have adapted an earlier version of the song.


A lesser known 1846 version was published, copyrighted by C. H. Keith, in Boston by Oliver Ditson, under the title "De Blue-Tail Fly," beginning,

"O when you come in summer time
To South Carlinar's sultry clime...."

Instead of "Jim crack corn," it has the odd refrain, "An' scratch 'im wid a brier too." It goes, moreover, to an unusual modal tune and is not attributed to the Virginia Minstrels. Listen here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OriDf7Y4e7Q

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Mrrzy
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 10:27 PM

Guest, Gerry beat me to it

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Halfmoon Charlie
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 09:56 PM

As was noted by someone else...
James J. Fuld (1916 - 2008) in his "The Book of World Famous Music" 5th ed. P. 312 says the first known printing of this song was Jan. 20, 1846 under the title: "Jim Crack Corn, or The Blue Tail Fly" by F.D. Benteen. Fuld states that Dan Emmett is sometimes claimed to be the author of "Jim Crack Corn" but in a footnote says Emmett arranged a "De Blue Tail Fly" but did not compose it, and that Emmett's version has a different melody and words. Fuld supplies no lyrics in his book except for the refrain,"Jim crack corn I don't care." I don't pretend to know which story is correct about this song.

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 04:03 PM

Sheet music from ca1846 with close to the well-known tune:

https://digital.library.temple.edu/digital/collection/p15037coll1/id/7185

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 03:45 PM

Actually, it's both strains!

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 03:43 PM

Here is an earlier version of the familiar song - but with no Jimmy to crack corn:

The News (St. Augustine, Fla.)(June 18, 1842):

SONG.--OF THE BLUE-TAIL FLY.

I have sung about the long-tail blue,
So often you want something new,
With your desire I'll now comply,
My song is about a blue tail fly.
       Oh! Do Mr. Bugger
       Oh! Do Mr. Bugger do.

Dar's many kinds of dese are tings,
From different sort of insect springs,
some hatch in June, some in July,
But August brings de blue tail fly.
      

If you should go in summer time,
To Carolina’s sultry clime,
If in the shade you chance to lie,
You will soon find out the blue tail fly.
       Oh! Do Mr. Bugger
       Oh! Do Mr. Bugger do.

When I was young I used to wait,
On Massa's table hand [sic] de plate;
And pass de bottle when he dry,
And brush away de blue tail fly.
       Oh! Do Mr. Bugger
       Oh! Do Mr. Bugger do....

It continues almost identically to the 1846 version I posted on 29 May
20, but with different refrain.

"Mr. Bugger" is the equivalent (one hopes) of "Johnny Booker."

Reminder from an earlier post: the tune usually sung today is essentially the first strain of "Git Up in de Mornin'" (1855):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xbhSyipH4MM

The tune seems first to have been associated with "The Blue-Tail Fly" in print in Dorothy Scarborough's "On the Trail of Negro Folk Songs" (1925).

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 07:43 AM

See my post of 03 May 20. The connection is possible but uncertain.

I now see that pre-1846 references must allude to the very different song about a "blue-tailed fly" posted by Masato Sakurai from a broadside on 25 Oct 01.

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Acorn4
Date: 17 Jun 23 - 05:11 AM

In UK there is an expression "like a blue arsed fly" which means similar to running round like a headless chicken and seems to sum up the manic way many people have to work and live these days.

Possibly rooted in the "Blue Tail Fly" song?

Blue Arsed Fly

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 15 Jun 23 - 06:40 PM

A month earlier in a different city:

Daily Richmond Whig (Feb. 21, 1831): “In the course of the evening: -- Comic song: -- ‘The blue-tail’d fly,’ by master [sic] Jas. Mercer [age 10].”

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 29 Sep 22 - 04:29 PM

Here's an even earlier appearance of the title:

Charleston Daily Courier (March 25, 1831):

"In the course of the evening, the comic songs of the 'Blue Tailed Fly,' and the 'Golden Fish' [to be sung] by Mr. Bristow."

Three years later, in New Orleans:

The Courier (March 4, 1834): "Comic song, 'The Blue Tailed Fly.'"

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: mayomick
Date: 01 Jun 20 - 06:34 AM

I remember Peggy Seeger suggesting people try singing the chorus with a strong emphasis on the word "don't" so as to make the two words "don't care" come out like one word "dontcare". Sang that way you get more of a southern twang to the chorus.

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: mayomick
Date: 01 Jun 20 - 06:12 AM

"The OED shows examples of "bluebottle" (fly) from about 1700, long before the development of rhyming slang."
thanks for the correction , Lighter.
I woke with a hangover this morning so no thanks at all for the reference to eggs in excrement and wounds of animals.

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 30 May 20 - 11:01 AM

Like other members of the blow fly family, the bluebottle lays eggs in excrement and in the wounds of animals, thus the association with “ponies” and the erroneous idea that the insect "stings."

An English bawdy song to the "Blue Tail" tune (and related to Hugill’s “Oh, Aye, Rio”) appears in Bob Pegg’s "Folk" (1976).

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 30 May 20 - 10:29 AM

An ornate but immediately recognizable version of the tune appears as “Git Up in de Mornin’” in Thomas F. Briggs, "Briggs’ Banjo Instructor" (Boston: Oliver Ditson & Co., 1855).

Briggs' arrangement is played by Tony Trischka (banjo) and Kenny Kosek (fiddle) on the album Minstrel Banjo Style, track 28.

Snippet:
https://www.amazon.com/Minstrel-Banjo-Style-Various-Artists/dp/B0000002M7

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 30 May 20 - 10:20 AM

The OED shows examples of "bluebottle" (fly) from about 1700, long before the development of rhyming slang.

Outside of the song, I've never heard of a "blue-tail fly." The "blue-ass fly," occasionally shows up in sayings like, "go like a blue-ass fly," though I know it only through reading.

In the U.S. we usually just call 'em "bluebottles."

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: GUEST,Nick Dow
Date: 30 May 20 - 09:58 AM

Jeff Wesley (traditional singer and farmer) told me that a Gimmy Crack, was a badly cut corn. Makes more sense of the chorus I think.

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: mayomick
Date: 30 May 20 - 08:43 AM

There's one been buzzing around my kitchen this morning. Do they say "blue arse fly" in America as they do in the UK and Ireland? A blue-bottle is what we usually call them nowadays , which would be rhyming slang for blue arse,I think.

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Doug Chadwick
Date: 30 May 20 - 05:37 AM

You can hear my rendition of the song here: Blue Tail Fly on Mudcat YouTube channel

DC

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 29 May 20 - 11:03 PM

There are innocuous folk songs, yeah,
But we regard 'em with scorn.
The folks who sing 'em have no social conscience,
Why, they don't even care if Jimmy Crack Corn.

(Tom Lehrer, The Folk Song Army)

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 29 May 20 - 06:07 PM

Oops. That text of the Fly is really from the Yazoo City (Miss.) Whig (Nov. 13, 1846), p. 1:

“Blue Tailed Flies—We have always had an aversion to ‘blue tailed flies,’ but by request of a musical friend, we let the following loose among our readers:..."

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 29 May 20 - 06:02 PM

This may be the earliest appearance of a song called "The Blue Tail'd Fly" - the familiar one, presumably:

Daily Republican Banner (Nashville) (Nov. 20, 1838), p. 3:

“On Tuesday Evening, Nov. 20 / will be presented / Mr. M. G. Lewis’ celebrated tragedy in 5 acts, entitled

                                         ADELGITHA
                            Or, The Fruits of a Single Error
                                                      -----------------------
Song, The Blue Tail’d Fly…….by Master Austin.”

The next mention is more than seven years later, from the Daily National Republic (Buffalo, N.Y.) (Feb. 6, 1846), p. 2:

“George J----, the pride of the Podunk bar, can…sing ‘The Blue tail fly.’”

And the earliest text, from the same source and page:

I’ve sung about my long tail blue,
So often you want something new,
With your desire I'll now comply;
My song is about dat blue tail fly.
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care,
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care,
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care.
Ole massa gone from home.

Dar’s many a kind ob dese here tings,
From different sort ob insects springs,
Some hatch in spring and some in July,
But August brings dat blue tail fly.
    Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care, &c.

If you should go in de summer time,
To Carolina’s sultry clime,
If in de shade you chance to lie,
You’ll soon find out dat Blue tail Fly.
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care, &c.

When I was young I used to wait,
On massa table and hand de plate;
And pass de bottle when he dry,
And brush away dat Blue tail Fly.
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care, &c.

Arter dinner massa sleep,
He make dis nigga wigil keep,
And when he go to shut his eye,
He tell me watch dat Blue tail Fly.
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care, &c.

Ole massa ride in de arter noon,
I follow wid de hickory broom;
De poney [sic] being berry shy,
When bitten by dat Blue tail Fly.
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care, &c.

Ole massa ride around de farm,
De flies so numerous did swarm,
One bit de pony on de thigh,
De debil take dat Blue tail Fly.
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care, &c.

De pony run, he jump, he pitch,
He tumbled massa in de ditch;
He was dead and de jury wondered why,
De verdict was de Blue tail Fly.
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care, &c.

Dey laid him beneath the simmon tree;
His epitaph is dere, to see,
Beneath dis stone inforced to lie,
All by de means ob de Blue tail Fly.
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care, &c.

Ole massa's dead, oh let him rest,
Dey say all tings are for de best,
I nebber shall forget until I die,
Ole massa and dat Blue tail Fly.
Oh, Jim Crack Corn don't care, &c.

Quite the same text, ”Blue Tail Fly,” except for some additional dialect spellings, appears in The (Charleston, S.C.) Courier (July 19, 1853), p. 4, but there the “Jim Crack Corn” refrain is replaced by “Oh. Mr. Booker, do Mr. Booker, wake up Katy,/ Or I’ll scratch you with a briar.”

Subject: RE: Origins: Blue Tail Fly (Jimmy Crack Corn)
From: Lighter
Date: 29 May 20 - 05:54 PM

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) Blue Tail Fly
From: GUEST,Black Deep
Date: 30 Jul 08 - 03:21 PM

Crack Corn. Moon shine was made from cracked corn, then mixed with sugar and water and fermented, the distilled. Up until I was in my early 30's they called it cracking corn. Or another term for moonshining wisky.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From:
Date: 30 Apr 06 - 08:02 PM

I have a 45 that has blue tail fly with vocal and full Orchestra on 2001P and on the other side is the song Carry Me Back To Old Virginny 2oo1P.With vocal and full orchestra . The record guild of america,INC. N.Y. Copyrighted,made in U.S.A. This record is made of some sort of cardboard and still plays the music. It has full pics of the meanings of these songs. They are very well done. For a 45.
Question what time frame did it come from and why cardboard. How many where made this way ect.   
I have hade this record since the early 70s.It looked very old then.
Please send info to me on this great 45.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Blue-Tail Fly
From: Joybell
Date: 09 Jan 06 - 05:16 PM

Yes there's mine, but I have nothing except word-of-mouth information. Here it is from my father. He told me in 1949, here in Victoria Australia:
"Jimmy is the old name for The Crow. The Crow was called Jimmy in England. 'Jimmy crack corn and I don't care' means that the Crow may crack, and eat, the corn because there's no one to care now that the 'Master' of the farm is dead."
If the teller of the tale had among his tasks the scaring of the birds, from the cornfield, this would make a lot of sense.

This ties in with my theory - and it's speculation, that the chorus of this song came from an English Crow-scaring song. I repeat - THE CHORUS of this song - only.
There are examples of crow-scaring songs from both England and America. Children were employed for this task and the songs were collected from them. I've never actually found an ancestor for this song but I live in hope.
For what it's worth. Cheers, Joy

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Blue-Tail Fly
From: Azizi
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 04:58 PM

See this version attributed to Leadbelly:

Chorus: Jimmy, crack corn, and I don't care.
Jimmy, crack corn, and I don't care,
Jimmy, crack corn, and I don't care,
My mastas gone away.

Rod-a, he ride him and he jumped a ditch,
He ride-a, he rode him, and the pony did pitch.
The pony, he felt a little bit shy,
'Cause he's bitten by that blue-tailed fly. (Chorus)

When I went down in Louisiana,
I stayed a little while in Texarkana.
Every once in a while, I felt a little bit shy
'Cause I was bitten by that blue-tailed fly. (Chorus)

I was on my to Shreveport, Louisiana,
Then I stopped out in Caspiana.
And I felt a little bit shy,
'Cause I was bitten by that blue-tailed fly. (Chorus)

When I was drivin' along in my car
I was stoppin' most anywhere.
Once in while I look up in the sky
'Cause I was bitten by that blue-tailed fly. (Chorus)

Once in a while I do a little bit o'dance,
And some of the people come around and says, "Will you allow me a little chance?
But every once in a while I feel a little bit shy
'Cause I was bitten by that blue-tailed fly.
(Chorus) (2x)

-snip-

Source: Leadbelly version of Jimmy Crack Corn

This site notes the following about the origin of this song:
"Credited to Daniel Emmett by Spaeth but it's likely that if he wrote it from other sources. One of the earliest publications was in a series credited to him -- but the absence of his name on the earliest copies goes far toward discrediting his authorship. The subtext for this song is that the slave in fact killed the master himself, blaming it on the blue-tail fly. This is hinted at, to varying degrees, in some versions of the song".

-snip-

There's alot of theories on what "Jimmy Crack Corn" means. Here's several theories from that same site -and notice that an anonymous poster from Mudcat Discussion Forum is mentioned:

"CRACK CORN? The Civil War song, Jimmy Cracked Corn, was one of Abe Lincoln's favorite songs! However, in the song, Jimmy wasn't really cracking corn. He was sleeping, and "cracking corn" was another term for snoring.

"Jimmy Crack Corn" was slang for "gimme cracked corn" or corn liquor. "Jimcrack o' corn and I don't care" "Jimcrack" is a measure of whiskey.

"Cracking corn" for telling jokes or tall tales: "I should explain to your Lordship what is meant by crackers; a name they have got from being great boasters; they are a lawless bunch of rascals on the frontiers of Virginia, Maryland, the Carolinas and Georgia, who often change their places of abode. G. Cochrane, 1766, in "Letters," 27 June. OED; The term comes from the Scottish-northern English word crack (crake), meaning boasting, which has been used in that sense from 1460 in print. See OED, 1971 and later eds. Georgia apparntly was first called the Cracker State in print in 1808, in "Balance," Verses by a Cracker Planter.

According to "The Cassel Dictionary of Slang" "Crack-Corn" referred to White People and originally meant the White natives of Kentucky. It was apparently a variation of "corncracker" which meant a poor white farmer and was apparently applied to the natives of Florida, Georgia, Kentucky or Tennessee possibly because of their dependance on corn or maize. Corn in the British Isles refers to wheat, oats or barley as distinct from the American meaning. (From Mudcat Discussion Forum)"

-snip-

Other websites such as The Mavens' Word of the Day indicate that "To crack corn is to break or crush it into pieces".

Are there any other theories you want to throw in the mix?

Subject: Lyr Add: JIM CRACK CORN, or THE BLUE TAIL FLY
From: chico
Date: 08 Jan 06 - 02:27 PM

       E              A       7
  When I was young a us'd to wait
      E             F#7     B7  
  On Massa and hand him de plate;
  Pass down the bottle when he git dry,
      B7              E
  And bresh away de blue tail fly.
  
   E                 B7
  Jim crack corn and I don't care.
                     E
  Jim crack corn and I don't care.
   7                 A        Bb° 
  Jim crack corn and I don't care.
      B7            E
  Old Massa gone away.
  
  Den arter dinner massa sleep,
  He bid dis niggar vigil keep;
  An' when he gwine to shut his eye,
  He tell me watch de blue tail fly.
  
  An' when he ride in de arternoon,
  I foiler wid a hickory broom;
  De poney being berry shy,
  When bitten by de blue tail fly.
  
  One day he rode aroun' de farm,
  De flies so numerous dey did swarm;
  One chance to bite 'im on the thigh,
  De debble take dat blu tail fly.
  
  De poney run, he jump an' pitch,
  An' tumble massa in de ditch;
  He died, an' de jury wonder'd why
  De verdic was de blue tail fly.
  
  Dey laid 'im under a 'simmon tree,
  His epitaph am dar to see:
  'Beneath did stone I'm forced to lie,
  All by means ob de blue tail fly.'
  
  Ole massa gone, now let 'im rest,
  Dey say all tings am for the best;
  I nebber forget till de day I die,
  Ole massa an' dat blue tail fly. 

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: Joybell
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 05:51 PM

I don't want to go here again because I am not interested in point scoring, but I am still trying to find the link between Robert "Billy" Barlow and "The Blue-tail Fly". He was called "The Blue-tail Fly" because of the song he sang by that title. (which was called "his") BUT WHICH "Blue-tail Fly"? That is the question - or one of the questions. I'm not suggesting he DID write either of these songs, just making the point that he COULD have. He was England born, in America in the 1840s, and settled in Australia by the early 1850s. I already have a lot of information about him, and am in contact with a descendant of his, but I'm no closer to finding his connection with "The Blue-tail Fly".
Please Q let's not go down the Billy Barlow path again - I'm asking questions here as an interested researcher.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: GUEST,freeatlast
Date: 13 Jan 04 - 05:21 PM

The clue for 13 down in the January 13th, 2004 cryptic puzzle in the "Globe and Mail" was: "Poorly made Russian fighter goes up with a bang (8)".
The answer, of course, is GIMCRACK.
I know, I know… you don't care.
Anyway, "gimcrack" or "jimcrack" got me to thinking about the song and just what "Jim-crack Corn" might be. As the crossword clue says, gimcrack means "poorly made." And "corn," as we all know, is a care banishing beverage.
The narrator of the song says, "When I was young." This means he is no longer young. This would make him what -- old?
He's got a lot to think about; some of it is painful. His carefree youth when all he was required to do was to brush away a few flies might seem pretty golden when viewed through a whiskey bottle.
Jimcrack corn might just be cheap whiskey, moonshine, Tennessee wine, granny's rheumatiz medicine. It's still good for what ails you – especially at those moments when you realize that none of us are ever going to be free.
Cheers

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: masato sakurai
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 09:38 PM

Sitting on a rail, or, The raccoon hunt. Sold, wholesale and retail by L. Deming, No. 61 Hanover Street, Boston. [n. d.]

For transcription, click on "Bibliographic information."

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 09:38 PM

American Memory: Search
Insert Sittin on a Rail in the Search box, and it will appear at the top of the list, 1.

Max I certainly am not- If I had to fiddle with the computers, Mudcat would be down 100% of the time!

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 12 Jan 04 - 06:35 PM

A minstrel routine in American Memory, "Sittin' On a Rail," or "The Raccoon Hunt," has these verses, among others:

My ole massa he lub gin,
De way he drink him was a sin;
It case um him to tumble in
A hole bout eight feet deep.

Spoken- You see, my ole massa, he did lub gin to obstruction, an he git drunk one night and go to bed on de wiskey barrel, an he wake in de mornin, an he fine heself dead, an I mak calffimalashund how he die juss fore he time cum, an I spose- seein, dat my massa dead, dare no harm for de nigger to sing little bout him.

O my ole massa dead and gone,
De debil sing him funeral song;
A little poison help him on,
Bress um, let um go- bress um let um go-
bress um, let um go, wid de bottle in de hand.

Probably inspired by the Emmett's De Blue Tail Fly.
Undated, Boston and Middlebury, VT, L. Deming, 19c undated.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Blue-Tail Fly
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 08:38 PM

Scarre crowes (scar-crow) go back a fur piece, being mentioned in print ca. 1550. Both the made-up figure or little boys.
Can't find any songs, but agree that there should be some.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Blue-Tail Fly
From: Joybell
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 07:37 PM

Ah! Thanks Q. Maybe the answer I've been seeking. I have never been able to find the words to the 1824 song of this name, nor the words of the song as sung by London-born Robert Barlow who became "Australia's Blue Tailed Fly" I don't think my search is over yet but you have maybe tied up a loose end for me. Thank you. I have posted a thread about "crow scaring songs" in an attempt to find a few possible links there. I know that Robert Barlow was a minstrel and that he sang "The Blue-tail'd Fly" beyond that the proof as to which "Blue-tailed Fly" is wanting.   Still searching. Joy

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Blue-Tail Fly
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 07:30 PM

Should have put Lyr. Add; The Blue Tail'd Fly (English), to separate the two songs.

Subject: Lyr Add: THE BLUE TAIL'D FLY (English broadside)
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 07:23 PM

Cite references. The same blue tailed fly? No evidence in North American or British print about the minstrel song before the 1846 printing.
There is another, unrelated English song, "The Blue Tail'd Fly," which is earlier, prob. c. 1830.

Lyr. Add: THE BLUE TAIL'D FLY

A hungry fish chanced to spy,
Fal de ral, etc.
A little wicked blue tail'd fly,
Fal de ral. etc.
This fly unto the fish did say,
As in the flood he saw him play,
If you can bite my tail you may,
Fal de ral, etc.

This hungry fish then made a spring,
Fal de ral, etc.
But he could not catch this blue tail'd thing,
Fal de ral, etc.
So like the fox he lost a treat,
For the fish the fly could not eat,
So says he your nasty tail's not sweet,
Fal de ral, etc.

Now a little man by chance came by,
Fal de ral, etc.
And he caught with his hand this blue tail'd fly
Fal de ral, etc.
Then on a hook this fly he hung,
And in this river this blue tail flung,
Where death soon stopt his wicked tongue,
Fal de ral, etc.

This hungry fish saw the blue tail'd fly fall,
Fal de ral, etc.
I'll eat says he his body and all
Fal de ral, etc.
My hungry belly you shall fill,
The fly I'fll eat against his will,
He bit- but the hook stuck in his gill,
Fal de ral, etc.

The little man drew him on land,
Fal de ral, etc.
And took this hungry fish in hand,
Fal de ral, etc.
Then on a twig did him suspend,
For to eat this fish he did intend,
So my song good folks is at an end.
Fal de ral, etc.

Bodleian Ballads, Harding B 11(2226), Catnach, c. 1813-1838; also Firth b.26(36), c. 1819-1844.

No, probably not by Izaak Walton. Could be an English minstrel or music hall song.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Blue-Tail Fly
From: Joybell
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 06:34 PM

Q Have you been to the Adelphi theatre site where the song "The Blue-tail'd Fly" is listed among the songs sung there in 1824!!! ? I hate to bring all this up again but I'm sure I've got a point.
      Best Regards, No1 member of The Australian Blue-tailed Fly fan club.

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Blue-Tail Fly
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 01:46 PM

Thread 40458 has the original minstrel songs, c. 1846-1850. Daniel Emmett is considered to be the author of De Blue Tail Fly. The songs De Blue Tail Fly and Jim Crack Corn quickly became popular everywhere, and were yoked together as one song almost immediately.
De Blue Tail Fly

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Blue-Tail Fly
From: Mark Clark
Date: 18 Oct 03 - 02:33 AM

If you'll look at the top of this page, you'll see links to about eight other threads discussing this song. I think you'll find lots of information there. If you don't find what you're looking for, come back and ask again.

      - Mark

Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Blue-Tail Fly
From:
Date: 17 Oct 03 - 11:09 PM

I was wondering if you knew where the song comes from. If you know what the story behind the song was? I have a slight theroy about the verses but I can't tie in the chorus. If you know e-mail me, I would really appreciate it.

Subject: RE: Blue-Tail Fly (lyric reguest)
From: GUEST,Q
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 03:29 PM

dieubermadchen- complete original song by Dan Emmett (1846) at thread 40458; the first verse is essentially what you have posted.
De Blue tail Fly

Subject: RE: Blue-Tail Fly (lyric reguest)
From: GUEST,dieubermadchen
Date: 29 Jul 03 - 09:13 AM

I've also heard these lyrics beginning the song:

If you should come in the summer time
to South Carolina's steamy clime
and in the shade you chance to lie
you'll soon find out the blue tail fly

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: Dicho (Frank Staplin)
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 02:05 PM

This Virginia website is welcome. Thanks. In the Trad. Ballad Index, the date given is 1844, but this seems to refer to a Lucy Leal-Lucy Long set of verses. 1846 seems to be the earliest recorded printing of the Blue Tail- Jim Crack versions.

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: masato sakurai
Date: 27 Apr 02 - 07:08 AM

In Christy's Nigga Songster As Sung By Christy's, Pierce's, White's and Dumbleton's Minstrels (New York: T. W. Strong, c. 1850) [note the publication date too], BLUE TAILED FLY (pp. 45-47) and JIM CRACK CORN! I DON'T CARE (p. 109) are treated as two separate songs, though the beginning lines are the same.

BLUE TAILED FLY.

If you should go, in summer time,
To South Carolinar's sultry clime,
An' in de shade you chance to lie,
You'll soon find out de blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.

Dar's many kind ob curious tings,
From different sort ob inseck springs;
Some hatch in June an' some July,
But Augus fotches de blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.

When I was young I used to wait
On massa table and hand de plate
I'd pass de bottle when he dry,
Den brush away de blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.

Den arter dinner massa sleeps,
He bid dis nigga vigils keeps;
An' when he gwine to shut his eye,
He tell me watch de blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.

When he ride in de arternoon,
I foller wid a hickory brom;
De pony being berry shy,
When bitten by de blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.

One day he rode aroun de farm,
De flies so numerous did swarm,
One chance to bite 'im on de thigh,
De debil take de blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.

De pony run he jump an'`pitch,
An' tumbl'd massa in de ditch;
He died and de jury wondered why--
De verdic was de blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.

Dey laid him under a 'simmon tree,
His epitaph am dere to see

'Beneath this stone I'm forced to lie,
All by de means ob de blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.
Ole massa's gone, now let 'im rest,
Dey say all tings am for de best;
I neber shall forget till de day I die,
Ole massa an' dat blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.

De hornet gets in your eyes and nose,
De skeeter bite you troo your clothes;
De yalla nipper sweeten high,
But wusser yet de blue tail fly.
An' scratch 'um wid a briar too.

JIM CRACK CORN! I DON'T CARE.

If you should go in summer time,
To Souf Carolina sultra clime,
And in de shade you chance to lie,
You'll soon find bout dat blue tail fly.
Jim crack corn I don't care!
Jim crack corn! I don't care!
For massa me gave away.

When I was young I used to wait,
On massa's table and hand de plate,
I'd pass the bottle when he dry,
An brush away de blue tail fly,
Jim crack, etc.

When ole massa take his sleep,
He bid dis nigga sight to keep,
An when he gows to shut his eye.
He tell me watch dat blue tail fly.
Jim crack, etc.

Ole massa ride in arternoon,
I follow arter wid a hickory broom,
De pony he is bery shy,
Kase he bitten by de blue tail fly.
Jim crack, etc.

De pony run dar jump an pitch,
He trowed ole massa in the ditch,
He died an de Jury all did cry,
Dat de verdict was de blue tail fly.
Jim Crack, etc.

Ole massa's dead now let him rest,
Dey say all tings am for de best,
I nebber shall forget till the day I die,
Ole massa and de blue tail fly

~Masato

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: masato sakurai
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 06:38 PM

Much more research has be done with Foster's songs. The results so far can be obtained in Steven Saunders and Deane L. Root, The Music of Stephen C. Foster: A Critical Edition, 2 vols. (Smithsonian Institution Press, 1990) and Calvin Elliker, Stephen Collins Foster: A Guide to Research (Garland, 1988)

~Masato

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: masato sakurai
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 06:29 PM

The C.K. Keith version of "De Blue Tail Fly" (1846) is in Public Domain Music with lyrics and MIDI. There're several "Lucy Long" songs in Levy, the version Fuld mentions seems to be the one published in 1844 (CLICK HERE), also in Public Domain Music with lyrics and MIDI.

~Masato

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: masato sakurai
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 06:17 PM

The C.K. Keith version of "De Blue Tail Fly" (1846) is in

Public Domain Music with lyrics and MIDI. "Lucy Long"

Subject: RE: Lyr Add: (De) BLUE TAIL FLY
From: GUEST,Ole Bull
Date: 25 Oct 01 - 05:14 PM

I perform both versions of the above; "Scratch him.." and "Massas gone away..." They do have different melodies and as far as I am concerned are different songs. This situation is not uncommon for the period; it seems to be a type of Title plagerism. And also many authorships of that time are in question. It was not unheard of for a performer to "lay claim" to a song that he had heard somewhere. Another good example of this type of occurance is "Mary Blane." The title was maybe more famous than the song and there are two widely published very different versions with many different (claimed) authorships.