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Lyr Req: The Yew Tree (Battlefield Band)

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Subject: LYR REQ: The Yew Tree
From: ewessel@apk.net
Date: 08 Jun 99 - 02:25 PM

I am looking for the lyrics to "The Yew Tree", a Scottish folk song. I have the music for it, but I still need the lyrics. Please e-mail them, as I do not get on the forem very often.


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Subject: RE: LYR REQ: The Yew Tree
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 08 Jun 99 - 05:25 PM

Tomorrow night, ok? I can't reach them now. BTW, the only song of that title I have is the one by Brian McNeill - but it does sound very folky. - Susanne


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Subject: RE: LYR REQ: The Yew Tree
From: Penny S.
Date: 09 Jun 99 - 11:44 AM

Would it be possible to post them as well? I'm, sort of, doing a study of yew tree distribution, and it would be interesting to have some folky quotes to enliven a dry discourse.

Thanks,

Penny


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE YEW TREE
From: harpgirl
Date: 09 Jun 99 - 11:59 AM

...here is my fragment since I have yet to collect the whole song...perhaps someone will provide the rest...
The Yew Tree

a mile to...Catlin on the road to the sea
Stands a yew tree a thousand years old
And they all.....
That it knows what the future will hold
For the shadows of Scotland stand round it
Mid the reel (?) and the corn and the...
All the hopes and the fears of a thousand long years
Under deluvian skys
My bonny yew tree, tell what did you see?
Did you look through the haze of a long summer's day
To the south and the far English border
All the bullets of steal and ....for field
Did they march....
Did you ask them the price of the Glory?
When you heard the great slaughter begin
All the dusty....
To bring tears to the eyes of the wind
My bonny yew tree, tell me what did you see?....
sorry it is so incomplete...harp


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Subject: RE: LYR REQ: The Yew Tree
From: HåvardR
Date: 09 Jun 99 - 02:41 PM

I'll have a look if "Bonnie Yew Tree" is in Brian's songbook when I get home.

Håvard


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE YEW TREE
From: Peter
Date: 09 Jun 99 - 03:05 PM

The Battlefield Band sings it and (I think) wrote it - here is my correction of the lyrics above:

a mile [frae Pencaitland] on the road to the sea
Stands a yew tree a thousand years old
And [the auld women swear by the grey of their hair]
That it knows what the future will hold
For the shadows of Scotland stand round it
Mid the [kale] and the corn and the [kye]
All the hopes and the fears of a thousand long years
Under [the Lothian] sky
My bonny yew tree, tell what did you see?

Did you look through the haze of a long summer's day
To the south and the far English border
All the bullets of steal [on Flodden's foul] field
[As they marched by your side in good order]
Did you ask them the price of [their] Glory?
When you heard the great slaughter begin
All the [dust from their bones would rise up from the stones]
To bring tears to the eyes of the wind
My bonny yew tree, tell me what did you see?....

It continues:

Did ye no' think tae tell, when John Knox himsel'
Preached under your branches sae black?
Tae the poor common folk, he would lift up the yoke
Of the bishops and priests frae their back.
But you know the bargain he sold them;
And freedom was only a part
For the price of their souls was a gospel sae cold
It would freeze up the joy in their hearts
My bonny yew tree, tell me what did you see?

When the moss-troopers layin your shade
To hide frae the thunder and count our the plunder
And share out the spoils of their raid?
But you saw the smiles of the gentry
And the laughter of lords at their games
When the poor hunt the poor across mountain and moor
The rich man can keep them in chains.
My bonny yew tree, tell me what did you see?

And I thought as I stood and laid hands on your wood
That it might be a kindness to fell ye
One kiss of the axe and your free froae the wracks
adn the sad blody tales that men tell ye.
But a wee bird flew out of your branches
And sang out as never before.
And the words of the sang were a thousand years lang,
And to learn them to know thousands more.
My bonny yew tree, tell me what can you see?

HTML line breaks added --JoeClone, 28-Nov-01.


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Subject: Lyr Add: THE YEW TREE (Brian McNeill)
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 09 Jun 99 - 07:12 PM

I see I've been beaten, but since Peter's version has got slightly mixed up I'll post mine regardless, plus a few bits of historical info. Hope you don't mind. - Susanne

Chorus:
My bonnie yew tree
Tell me what did you see

A mile frae Pentcaitland, on the road to the sea
Stands a yew tree a thousand years old
And the old women swear by the grey o' their hair
That it knows what the future will hold
For the shadows of Scotland stand round it
'Mid the kail and the corn and the kye
All the hopes and the fears of a thousand long years
Under the Lothian sky

Did you look through the haze o' the lang summer days
Tae the South and the far English border
A' the bonnets o' steel on Flodden's far field
Did they march by your side in good order
Did you ask them the price o' their glory
When you heard the great slaughter begin
For the dust o' their bones would rise up from the stones
To bring tears to the eyes o' the wind

Not once did you speak for the poor and the weak
When the moss-troopers lay in your shade
To count out the plunder and hide frae the thunder
And share out the spoils o' their raid
But you saw the smiles o' the gentry
And the laughter of lords at their gains
When the poor hunt the poor across mountain and moor
The rich man can keep them in chains

Did you no' think tae tell when John Knox himsel'
Preached under your branches sae black
To the poor common folk who would lift up the yoke
O' the bishops and priests frae their backs
But you knew the bargain he sold them
And freedom was only one part
For the price o' their souls was a gospel sae cold
It would freeze up the joy in their hearts

And I thought as I stood and laid hands on your wood
That it might be a kindness to fell you
One kiss o' the axe and you're freed frae the racks
O' the sad bloody tales that men tell you
But a wee bird flew out from your branches
And sang out as never before
And the words o' the song were a thousand years long
And to learn them's a long thousand more

Last chorus:
My bonnie yew tree
Tell me what CAN you see

This is how the Battlefield Band sing it on 'Home Ground' (great live album!)

[1879:] Nothing could be better evidence of how profoundly the mind of Scotland was moved by the evangel of Knox and his brother labourers than the sudden disappearance from oral tradition of many of the songs and ballads which had been popular for many years. There can be no doubt that many of these songs were what would now be considered highly licentious, although among our rude and plain-speaking forefathers and foremothers they may have passed current without evoking a blush on the face of village maidens. The Reformation called for an alteration in morals as well as in doctrines, and these songs were not only discouraged, but a poetic reformer issued a volume of "Gude and Godly Ballats", in which new and pious words were adapted to the old airs. In poetic merit this collection is wretched [...]. Still, they helped to supplant the old songs and ballads [...]. We hear no more of the "Ring sangs" [ballads] after the Reformation, though it is not impossible that they may have been continued in obscure places for some time, especially in quarters where the fervour of the Reformation hardly reached. [...] The struggle for the supremacy of Presbyterianism in Scotland [...] lasted long, and it was [...] no wonder that the old joyousness which broke out into dance and song was to a large extent extinguished, and that the gloom of a religion which had been darkened by the fire and smoke of battle should have fallen upon the people. (John Ord, Glasgow Weekly Herald, December 13)

[1972:] [Henry VIII joining the Pope, Spain, and Venice in a Holy League against France in 1511] placed James [IV of Scotland] in a dilemma from which there was no escape; his obligations under the Auld Alliance of 1491-2 and the Anglo-Scottish peace of 1502, renewed in 1509, were mutually incompatible except when England and France were at peace. [James tried to keep out of the conflict but] Henry, who meant to shine on the battlefields of Europe, had been definitely preparing for war against his brother-in-law. [...] It was only on 24 July [1513] that James summoned the shire levies. [Earl marshal] Surrey had begun to mobilize in London as early as 21 July; [...] his arrangements for organizing the north had been so good that he 'took his field' north of Newcastle on 5 September.
James, meanwhile [...] had occupied a fortified camp on Flodden Edge [where Surrey,] on 9 September, came down upon the Scots from the north. They, perhaps fearing that Surrey was off to invade Scotland, perhaps believing that, since he had not come by noon as he had promised, he would not come at all, were evidently in some confusion, and the result was a resounding victory for the English. James himself was slain and with him many of his nobles and of the royal household. The English claimed that 12,000 Scots were killed as opposed to a few hundred English. [...]
James's body was found on the field and [...] it was taken to London and Henry (who perhaps envisaged himself as chief mourner in appropriate magnificence) designed a splendid funeral. This did not take place. The royal corpse lay in its lead at Sheen until the house was despoiled after the Reformation, and eventually the embalmed head was hacked off by Queen Elizabeth's master-glazier who used it as a sort of pot-pourri until he tired of it. All praise must be given to the English who fought a hard action after a long march in bad weather, but James does not deserve the blame which tradition has accorded to him. Not he, but Henry, was responsible for the war, and one reason why he was ill prepared was that he strove to keep the peace till the very last. His conduct of the campaign was not faulty. [...] His defeat in battle was primarily due to the fact that his ill-organized force, numerically not much greater than that of his enemy, was not adequate for its task. The 'Lilt of dule and wae' was heard all over Scotland; but Scotland remained proud of a gallant King. [...] Disastrous as it was, the defeat at Flodden did not affect the development of Scotland as much as has been supposed. The death of her King removed the mainspring of her state, yet her spirit was unbroken and the machinery of government remained. (J. D. Mackie, A History of Scotland 131ff.)

[1988:] The Yew was a sacred tree to most of Europe's pre-Christian religions. It was a symbol of everlasting life. Indeed many Christian churches were built on the site of a pagan yew-grove. The Yew in this song stands near the village of Ormiston, in East Lothian, by the 13th century ruins of the Church of St. Giles. Brian was told about this magnificent tree by an old man in the neighbouring village of Pentcaitland. He went to see it and felt the whole place 'humming with ghosts'. It is not surprising that such an old and majestic tree has a place in the people's memory. The Covenanters preached under its boughs and it seems likely that the young John Knox (born and bred in nearby Haddington) honed his stern fiery message beneath ist leaves. One commentator in the late 19th century said "The Yew at Ormiston could tell strange tales, if only we could hear". (Battlefield Band Songbook 123)

[1994:] This song practically wrote itself. I was there, I saw the bird that flew out from its branches and so on, and the song wrote itself. (Brian McNeill, pr. comm.)

[1997:] A campaign has begun to restore the historical standing of John Knox, the father of the Scottish Reformation reviled by late twentieth-century man as a ranting killjoy. [...] John Knox was born in 1513 and became a priest, notary and soldier. He spent 18 months as a French galley-slave and fell under the influence of John Calvin in Geneva [...]. He returned to Scotland in 1560 and became the driving force behind the Scottish Reformation, the most radical in Europe. Apart from his rejection of papacy and its hierarchy, he led a drive for universal literacy. He wanted a school in every parish, a college in every town and a university in every city. He also wanted regular, organised provision for the poor. Post-war Scotland, secular and hedonistic, where the pubs are open all day on Sunday, has largely forgotten him. [Some historians think] Knox's historical standing had been traduced by the extremism of the militant Protestantism that followed. (Arnold Kemp / Dean Nelson, Observer 5 Apr)

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Queen Amang the Heather

[1965:] This splendid version of a song equally well-known amongst the Scots farming community and the travelling folk was learnt by Belle when she was still a wee bairn - among the singers to have contributed to her version are old Henry MacGregor of Perth, her cousin Jimmy Whyte and her brother Donald MacGregor. Versions of it used to be as thick as blaeberries in Strathmore and the Braes of Angus. It seems to be related to Ower the Muir Amang the Heather, of which Burns wrote: 'This song is the composition of Jean Glover. ... I took the song down from her singing as she was strolling through the country with a sleight-of-hand blackguard.'. Subsequent collecting makes it almost certain that Jean Glover 's version was itself a re-shaping of an older Ettrick song. James Hogg, the Ettrick shepherd produced a version which was in turn modified. Musical and textual evidence however, suggests that [...] a classic ballad lies behind the lyric lovesong. In this case, the progenitor is Glasgow Peggie (Child 228), the tunes for which are clearly related to Queen Amang the Heather, and whose story presents a parallel situation - the Highlander who takes the heiress he has carried off and beds her down 'amang the heather' before revealing that he is himself a Chieftain. (Hamish Henderson, notes 'The Stewarts of Blair')

[1995:] Sheila [Stewart] calls the song, which she got from her mother, Queen Amang the Heather, but we have used the title in the 'Greig-Duncan Collection', Volume 5. There are a bewildering variety of pieces in Scottish folk song on the courtship of the lowly by the high born suitor, notably the ballad version, The Laird o' Drum. The message is clearly egalitarian, and this has a distinct attraction for traveller singers often themselves suffering social discrimination. The motif is well expressed in the last verse of the ballad. (Peter Hall, notes 'Folk Songs of North-East Scotland')

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Subject: RE: LYR REQ: The Yew Tree
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 09 Jun 99 - 07:46 PM

Sorry, another bloomer! 'Queen Amang the Heather' was meant to go to the thread of that title. It got caught up in the cutting. Please ignore it. - Susanne


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Subject: RE: LYR REQ: The Yew Tree
From: Penny S.
Date: 10 Jun 99 - 02:27 PM

Thanks for all that information, as well as the song. The only old tree (1000+) I have mapped in Scotland is at Fortingall.

Penny


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree
From: GUEST,Can someone provide chords/music
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 12:49 PM

for this to me please?

I appreciate it muchly.

bard@freecelts.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree
From: GUEST
Date: 15 Mar 05 - 12:58 PM

sheet music e-mailed


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Subject: The Yew Tree, would love to have the chords
From: GUEST,quest
Date: 23 Aug 08 - 08:24 AM

i have looked everywhere for chords for this song. i used to play in a band and we would sing it, but since i was a singer, i never learned the chords, nor did i play guitar. and now the rest of my band is in a different country than me since i moved away.
would appreciate the chords. if possible.
thanks

mapledaleo@gmail.com


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Jan 09 - 07:00 PM

did anyone found the chords? i'd really like to learn this song, email it to korn114@hotmail.com if possible


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Subject: Chords Add: THE YEW TREE (Brian McNeill)
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 10 Jan 09 - 07:58 PM

Does this help? It's from the Battlefield Band song book.

A mile(Em) from Pencaitland(D) on the road(C) tae the sea(Em)
Stands a yew(C) tree a thou(D)sand years old(Em)
And the old(Em) women swear(D) by the grey(C) o' their hair(Em)
That it knows(C) what the fu(D)ture will hold(Em)
For the sha(A)dows of Scot(D)land stand round(Em) it
'Mid the kale(D) and the corn and the kye(A)
All the hopes(G) and the fears of a thou(D)sand long years(Bm)
Un(Em)der the Lo(D)thian sky(Em)
My bonny yew tree(D)
Tell me what did you see(Em)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree
From: Jack Campin
Date: 10 Jan 09 - 08:09 PM

That song seems to get longer every time I hear it.

Brian McNeill is not known for ever leaving a historical footnote unsung in the cause of brevity.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 10 Jan 09 - 08:27 PM

Maybe, Jack, but he does it brilliantly! BTW, I've heard that song for twenty years, and it's always been the same length and the same number of verses. Maybe it's your brain? :-)


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree
From: Suegorgeous
Date: 10 Jan 09 - 08:33 PM

Dick Gaughan has a version of this.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 10 Jan 09 - 09:31 PM

Insane Beard recently reminded me of the Fortingall Yew in Perthshire, Scotland, which I recall visiting about forty-five years ago when friends of my parents lived nearby. Estimates of its age range from a minimum two thousand years up to nine thousand years. Even two thousand years makes it the oldest tree in Europe.

Ross


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree
From: Bearheart
Date: 11 Jan 09 - 09:40 PM

Very interesting topic. I have a special place in my heart for trees, especially the Yews.

There are several dated Yew trees around Britain (mostly in church yards) that are older than 2000 years old. One is at a church yard in Ulcombe in Kent. (Locals say the older of the two really old ones there is closer to 4000 years old...)

There are 20 to 30 yews at Kingly Vale (at a guess-- I've never counted them because I'm always too awestruck to remember to). It's a national heritage site near Chichester in West Sussex (?). I don't know their age but some must be over a thousand easily. I've always thought they were Tolkien's inspiration- they are very sentient trees!!! and the three (Neolithic?) burial mounds on the hill overlooking them are also worth a visit.

I'm always surprised that so few English seem to know about the place, it is incredibly awe-inspiring to be in that grove of ancient beings...
Certainly one of the most magical places in the Isles.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree (Battlefield Band)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 27 Jul 18 - 01:10 PM

I am presently on a bus leaving Ormiston after trying and failing to find the tree from the directions in the village square.

Anybody got a Google map reference for it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree (Battlefield Band)
From: GUEST,Jack Campin
Date: 28 Jul 18 - 07:36 AM

More info about the tree:

https://www.ancient-yew.org/userfiles/file/Ormiston.pdf

James Miller's poem is truly appalling.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree (Battlefield Band)
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Jul 18 - 10:19 AM

Late, but Google Maps - Fortingall Yew


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree (Battlefield Band)
From: Jeri
Date: 28 Jul 18 - 10:23 AM

Or maybe that was an obvious yew, but not the right one.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree (Battlefield Band)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 28 Jul 18 - 07:56 PM

The Ormiston Yew
Google maps
https://goo.gl/maps/awsBuks9kD32

from google, walking
- village to The Ormiston Yew
25 min (1.2 mi)
https://goo.gl/maps/jBrfKZULR1v 

end of route, Street view
https://goo.gl/maps/CYWMa4MGvmo 
road swings left at a bungalow, ~50 metres later take a grassy track on the right. \southwest
In about 100 metres find the Tree\enormous clump of trees

OS ref NT 41206 67610
https://gridreferencefinder.com/osfs/?gr=NT4120667610|NT_s_41206_s_67610|1&v=h 


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: The Yew Tree (Battlefield Band)
From: Jack Campin
Date: 29 Jul 18 - 04:15 AM

Thanks. The Google Maps link looks ok and should get me there - the others do odd things on my (old) phone.

"A mile from Pencaitland, on the road to the sea" - you can see why Brian MacNeill didn't go for a career in tour guiding.


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