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BS: RFKennedy, Jr., - Palin quotes fascist

Genie 17 Sep 08 - 03:25 AM
Donuel 17 Sep 08 - 09:46 AM
GUEST,Jill 17 Sep 08 - 04:50 PM
dick greenhaus 17 Sep 08 - 05:03 PM
Little Hawk 17 Sep 08 - 06:36 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: RFKennedy, Jr., - Palin quotes fascist
From: Genie
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 03:25 AM

Richard Bridge: "Isn't it worthy of mention that The Shrub has been doing exactly what Goering said, and that McWar plans to keep on doing it?"

Certainly.

Obvious, perhaps. True, definitely.


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Subject: RE: BS: RFKennedy, Jr., - Palin quotes fascist
From: Donuel
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 09:46 AM

I would agree with Jonah that taking words out of context is is fascile and to be expected during silly season.

Pegler was not as dangerous a man as Lindberg who could be most easily manipulated by national socialists. The Financial Republicans would love to have a Lindberg on the presidential platform today.


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Subject: RE: BS: RFKennedy, Jr., - Palin quotes fascist
From: GUEST,Jill
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 04:50 PM

Palin was just the mouthpiece for a machine that uses people like Pegler when convenient.


http://www.counterpunch.org/dickson09162008.html
"The speech was written by Matthew Scully, who worked for President George W. Bush for five years, and was part of the team that drafted the President's post-September 11th addresses and every major speech of the first term. No stranger to the art of creating statesmanship in the barely literate, Scully had been hired before the surprising selection of Alaska governor Sarah Palin as vice-presidential candidate; portions of the speech touching on Senators Obama and McCain had been written before her selection was announced.

Scully and Palin sat together and developed-over "hours and hours and hours and hours" according to Mark Salter, McCain's closest aide, speechwriter, and co-author-what would become the defining, and indeed pivotal, moment in the current Presidential campaign.

Scully has described the process of speechwriting with loving and useful detail as a collaborative effort, informed by historical precedent, and a careful understanding of, and appreciation for, the politician meant to deliver the speech. In settling scores with his former colleague, Mike Gershon, in a long 2007 piece in The Atlantic, Scully depicts a meticulous, creative, solemn, collegial process where scores of drafts are revised and edited, both by the speechwriting team and by political higher-ups: a process where every reference is carefully chosen, and every phrase is weighed for rhetorical punch and discursive balance.

As Scully sat with Palin, many of the McCain campaign's most senior staff were most likely called upon to review and comment the emerging speech's leitmotiv: small town values of decency, service and integrity, facing off against the unreliability of the community-organizing urbanites in truly fighting for the interests of the people, or for the nation's war efforts. The novelty of a relatively young woman speaking to the RNC was offset by a retro feel: something from bygone days when things were simple, and moral response to enemies something that one didn't have to think too hard about. Something harkening back to the Truman years."


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Subject: RE: BS: RFKennedy, Jr., - Palin quotes fascist
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 05:03 PM

Westbrook Pegler. Herbert Hoover. Do these names mean anything to a voting population that thinks the Desert Storm is ancient history?


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Subject: RE: BS: RFKennedy, Jr., - Palin quotes fascist
From: Little Hawk
Date: 17 Sep 08 - 06:36 PM

"Isn't it worthy of mention that The Shrub has been doing exactly what Goering said, and that McWar plans to keep on doing it?"

Darn right it is, and I did mention it (regarding Bush). Check the end of my 3rd paragraph in that post. Yes, I do expect McCain to keep on doing it.


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