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Origin: The Badger Drive / The Log Driver's Waltz

GUEST,Nick E 21 Sep 08 - 08:40 PM
Desert Dancer 21 Sep 08 - 09:14 PM
meself 21 Sep 08 - 09:27 PM
Barry T 21 Sep 08 - 11:54 PM
katlaughing 22 Sep 08 - 12:04 AM
GEST 22 Sep 08 - 01:21 PM
Desert Dancer 22 Sep 08 - 03:54 PM
Willie-O 22 Sep 08 - 10:23 PM
meself 22 Sep 08 - 11:39 PM
GUEST,leeneia 23 Sep 08 - 01:20 PM
katlaughing 23 Sep 08 - 01:35 PM
john f weldon 23 Sep 08 - 03:12 PM
meself 23 Sep 08 - 07:17 PM
Willie-O 23 Sep 08 - 10:41 PM
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Subject: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: GUEST,Nick E
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 08:40 PM

Are these the same song or not?
If not, why?


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 09:14 PM

Never heard of the Badger Driver Waltz; know that badgers make no appearance in the Log Driver's Waltz.

Are we talking tune, or what?

Or is this something Weeblstuf-related??

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: meself
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 09:27 PM

Not. Why? Why on earth would they be?


Why is an apple?


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: Barry T
Date: 21 Sep 08 - 11:54 PM

Two different songs: (1) The Badger Drive, and (2) The Log Driver's Waltz.

You'll find the first at GEST's Songs of Newfoundland and Labrador...
http://www.wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/

(under the 'B' titles, of course).

And the Log Driver's Waltz is over here...

http://members.shaw.ca/tunebook/logdrive.htm

Also check out the National Film Board's animated version on YouTube, sung by Kate and Anna McGarrigle with the Mountain City Four.


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: katlaughing
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 12:04 AM

That animation was done by Mudcatter, john f weldon.


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: GEST
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 01:21 PM

Badger Drive was written by John V. Divine long before Wade Hemsworth wrote the Log Drivers Waltz. Here is the page URL for the Log Driver's Waltz (also at GEST Songs) with a CBC Radio player so you can listen to Hemsworth sing his own song and compare it to the YouTube video on the Badger Drive page:

http://www.wtv-zone.com/phyrst/audio/nfld/11/logdriver.htm

Have fun ~

GEST


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 03:54 PM

Thanks for all that, GEST!

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: Willie-O
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 10:23 PM

In case anyone is still puzzled, Badger is a town in central Newfoundland.   The Badger Drive is of course just another log drive. The two songs are both waltzes, and both about log driving on rivers in Canada, except that Newfoundland was not part of Canada during John Devine's era (d 1929). Log Driver's Waltz is much better known nowadays, but Badger Drive has been performed and recorded by many well-known folksingers including Stan Rogers and (I think) Alan Mills.

The backstory to Badger Drive, supposedly, is that Mr Devine had been fired from the A.N.D. company for drinking on the job, and wrote the song in part to flatter the bosses into rehiring him--and in fact his plan worked. I don't think the story has a moral. Good tune though.

ha

W-O


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: meself
Date: 22 Sep 08 - 11:39 PM

I think the moral is that if you get fired for drinking on the job, and then write a song that flatters the bosses, you may get re-hired.


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 01:20 PM

'The Badger Drive is of course just another log drive.'

Well heck. I wanted a song about the comedy potential of trying to drive badgers to the big roundup.

I come from Wisconsin, the Badger State. But I've never seen a badger and never been in a park or wildlife area where there was even a rumor of badgers.

I suppose if they had badgers at the zoo, all they could show you is the entrance to the burrow.

Does anybody have any suggestions for where to go to see a badger?


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: katlaughing
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 01:35 PM

We saw one once crossing a very deserted, rural road in Wyoming (where almost all roads meet that category!**bg**)

As kids we were always warned to watch for them as they were known to be very fierce.


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: john f weldon
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 03:12 PM

I posted this a while ago; the new hi-res on-line version. (The loggie, not the badger). Sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. I think if too many people try to watch at once it clogs up the nfb system.

http://beta.nfb.ca/film/vignette_log_drivers_waltz/

Wade originally wrote the song (along with several others) for an NFB documentary called Spring Drive. The producers thought it was too "light-hearted" for documentary. Lucky for me, though, perfect for animation! The opening live shots are "outs" from the Spring Drive film.

Wade did spend a lot of time in Northern Ontario as a surveyor for the power companies. His song "Black Flies" was also made into an animated film, by my friend Chris Hinton.


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: meself
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 07:17 PM

There is a Newfoundland connection though: I recall an interview in which Wade said that he had worked (been stationed?) in Nfld, and had been inspired by the songwriting tradition there to start writing songs about his own life and the life he saw around him ...


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Subject: RE: Badger driver/ Logdrivers waltz.
From: Willie-O
Date: 23 Sep 08 - 10:41 PM

"Does anybody have any suggestions for where to go to see a badger? "

I dunno Leeneia, perhaps a badge company?

Thanks for posting that link John, wonderful to see that animated version again! Do you have any more animation online?

I see the same site also has an animation of the Blackfly Song, and that one is sung by Wade himself--with the McGarrigle sisters as well. See it at http://beta.nfb.ca/film/blackfly/

Those McGarrigles get around. Early this morning I heard them singing backup for Kate's daughter Martha Wainwright on a quite lovely (tuned up, unplugged) version of the old Pink Floyd number "See Emily Play".

W-O


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