BS: Popular Views on Palin

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Amos
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 10:40 AM

I think the word you want is "popular".

The idea that he is a lightweight has no grounds, imho; he has demonstrated ttoughness and flexibility, breadth of visiona nd historical perspective. You will see a change of gears after the election, when he is free to get down towork without having to tiptoe through the rednecks.

A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 10:23 AM

Whereas Obama is like poplar- fast growing, but not durable or long lasting.


As I said, Obama would be a good president if he changed his policies, metyhods, and viewpoint- ie, if he becomes a Republican ( and yes, a Goldwater Republican would do.)

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Amos
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 10:19 AM

Wrong again, Rig,. The difference is that McCain is of a different kind of timber from the neck up--knotty oak, I think.


A

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: beardedbruce
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 10:16 AM

Rig,

I have to disagree. It does appear that Obama is capable of being president- but I do not support either his stated ( with unspecified means of getting there) points, nor the ones that he has supported in his (few) votes as a public offocial.


I would NOT say that he is not qualified- just not what I would want to have as president.


And, IMHO, his election would lead this country to nuclear war far more surely than McCain (or Palin).

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 10:10 AM

"Whether or not I agree with John McCain, he is of presidential timber."


                      And Obama is not!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Amos
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 09:58 AM

"How in the world can conservative commentators write with a straight face that this woman should be vice president of the United States? Do these people understand what serious trouble our country is in right now?

We are in the middle of an economic perfect storm, and we don't know how much worse it's going to get. People all over the world are hoarding cash, and no bank feels that it can fully trust anyone it is doing business with anywhere in the world. Did you notice that the government of Iceland just seized the country's second-largest bank and today is begging Russia for a $5 billion loan to stave off "national bankruptcy." What does that say? It tells you that financial globalization has gone so much farther and faster than regulatory institutions could govern it. Our crisis could bankrupt Iceland! Who knew?

And we have not yet even felt the full economic brunt here. I fear we may be at that moment just before the tsunami hits — when the birds take flight and the insects stop chirping because their acute senses can feel what is coming before humans can. At this moment, only good governance can save us. I am not sure that this crisis will end without every government in every major economy guaranteeing the creditworthiness of every financial institution it regulates. That may be the only way to get lending going again. Organizing something that big and complex will take some really smart governance and seasoned leadership.

Whether or not I agree with John McCain, he is of presidential timber. But putting the country in the position where a total novice like Sarah Palin could be asked to steer us through possibly the most serious economic crisis of our lives is flat out reckless. It is the opposite of conservative.

And please don't tell me she will hire smart advisers. What happens when her two smartest advisers disagree?

And please also don't tell me she is an "energy expert." She is an energy expert exactly the same way the king of Saudi Arabia is an energy expert — by accident of residence. Palin happens to be governor of the Saudi Arabia of America — Alaska — and the only energy expertise she has is the same as the king of Saudi Arabia's. It's about how the windfall profits from the oil in their respective kingdoms should be divided between the oil companies and the people.

At least the king of Saudi Arabia, in advocating "drill baby drill," is serving his country's interests — by prolonging America's dependence on oil. My problem with Palin is that she is also serving his country's interests — by prolonging America's dependence on oil. That's not patriotic. Patriotic is offering a plan to build our economy — not by tax cuts or punching more holes in the ground, but by empowering more Americans to work in productive and innovative jobs. If Palin has that kind of a plan, I haven't heard it.

.." (NYT Ed)

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Donuel
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 09:32 AM

Carol I was doing a pic of a giant mossquito sucking money from the puckered planet Earth dry. That was the sucking sound.

MSNBC Oberman show replayed the angry Palin mov with a guy yelling KILL HIM as well as the crowd yelling that Obama was a terrorist in response to the question Obama, who is he.

As angry mobs go, they were not stirred to a 3rd Reich frenzy but they damn well better put some brakes on inciting a crowd to murder lest they become somthing more than accomplices.

My dear State Police of Maryland went on a mission for a state senator to round up domestic terrorists against the war.
As a result some 400 people were listed as terrorists right here in Maryland. The police captain did make a public apology to two nuns who were listed as terrorists and banned from many priviledges other citizens enjoy like a checking account or commercial flying. The rest will be notified by mail before the peace terrorist police records are supposedly removed from the national data base.

The police involved have all been found innocent of any wrong doing.
Some new reccomendations have been made that written reprimands will be given officers for capriciously listing citzens en mass as terrorists without a diligent investigation.

VERE R YOOR PAPERS! AHA YOU R A TERRORIST! take them away.


we are close people, very close.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 07:04 AM

Apparently someone did yell, "kill him!" in response to Palin's incitements against Obama at a Florida event, but Palin just ignored it. Hardly surprising, I suppose. According to the top strategist in the McCain campaign, "If we keep talking about the economic crisis, we're going to lose".

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Riginslinger
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 06:08 AM

"She said that to the guy who called for killing Obama?"


                  On the blurb that I heard, you couldn't make out what the guy was saying, but I'd be amazed if it had anything to do with killing Obama. Anyway, it certainly shut him up.




      "They sure have you fooled. Palin is so bad at thinking on her feet that they GOP has even been screening her hecklers."

             It was the best and quickest response I've ever seen to a heckler.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: CarolC
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 04:10 AM

;-)


I have no doubt that Sarah Palin is a revolutionary. But the kind of revolution she is involved in is more of a Dominionist nature, than anything else. To quote the lady with the gun, "Thanks, but no thanks".

I've never claimed to be a revolutionary, myself. I'm just me.

This is how I see the times we're in right now, using a refrigerator as a metaphor - the fridge needs to be cleaned out. We will get to that job in time. But before we can start cleaning the fridge, we need to open the door and turn the light on. First things first.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: akenaton
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 03:02 AM

Ebbie ...It was a joke.
Actually I think Carol is much hotter than "the lady with the gun", but I'm sorry to say that of the two Mrs Palin seems more of a revolutionary these days....Ake   :0)

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: GUEST,Jack The Sailor
Date: 08 Oct 08 - 01:00 AM

Rig,

They sure have you fooled. Palin is so bad at thinking on her feet that they GOP has even been screening her hecklers.

Nowadays she needs the script approved by Shmidt to order a a cup of coffee.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 08:30 PM

Correction...

*legitimate form of protest

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 08:28 PM

If that was her response to the guy who called for killing Obama, I guess I would say I find it interesting that Palin considers killing people a legitimate form or protest that her son is in Iraq fighting to preserve as a privilege.

I also find it interesting that Palin considers protest to be a privilege rather than a right. I must say, though, that I don't find it at all surprising.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 08:22 PM

She probably giggled.

By the way - and with finality - just in case any of you are under the impression or have latched onto the fantasy of "the lady with the gun", the woman in tha photo is not Sarah Palin. They tacked her head onto some one else's body, as I suspect that deep down, you know.

Stupid.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 07:33 PM

She said that to the guy who called for killing Obama?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 07:20 PM

She said: (paraphrasing) Bless your heart, sir. My son is fighting in Iraq to you can have the privledge to protest!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 07:13 PM

What is that giant "sucking" sound I hear?


(It's the collective blood supply of the male population of the Western world going south... )

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 07:02 PM

Putting hecklers in their place? So what did she say to the person in the audience who, in response to her question, "what should we do with Obama?", said, "KILL HIM!"?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: CarolC
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 07:00 PM

The lady with the gun is another Che?

( ...no, she's just hot)


[Posted in the other thread also]

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Little Hawk
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 06:36 PM

Let's bring back Bonnie and Clyde (they could maybe still be cloned?) and have them run for president and VP, I say. That'd spice things up some. They didn't put up with hecklers either.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 06:36 PM

No! Patti Hearst was never that good with hecklers.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 06:12 PM

That would be Patti Hearst?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 02:25 PM

Yes, the lady with the gun is absolutely the right answer. And she really has a knack for putting hecklers in their place.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: akenaton
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 01:20 PM

Latest news ....Federal Reserve is by-passing the American banking system and buying-in to top American companies with your dollars.

Better get the revolution started quick comrades, or "you'll be sure be left behind, when we're sailing through the air"

Is Mr Obama another "Che".....I think not, I'll follow the lady with the gun.....Ake

Posted this on another thread , but suits this one better

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: TIA
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 10:34 AM

BB-

Your link is a perfect example of the disconnect. The Vatican is perfectly okay to be called the Whore Church, and perfectly okay with someone who belongs to a church that claims to have killed Mother Teresa through prayer **as long as the person(s) doing these things call themselves pro-life**!

I'm not arguing with the Catholic definition of life. I just think it's a little kooky to endorse someone who demonizes (literally) you simply because you agree on one issue. And how exactly is claiming the killing of Mother Teresa pro-life?

My discussion is not about abortion, it's about an apparent mental disconnect. (Although, I suppose that these are not uncommon - perhaps even necessary - among the religious).

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 10:18 AM

And one could say:


In WW II, I saw trains carrying Jews from Holland, where it was illegal to kill them, to Poland where they were sent to the death camps. After all, they were not really human, anyway... (By Law, at the time and plce.)    (NOTE the statement is SARCASM))

I really don't want to see that history replayed either.

As I have stated, in the viewpoint of the Pro-Life ( anti-abortion), the killing of a human being is murder. They have accepted a definition of humanity that is from conception until death. It might be conveniant to say some other points, and allow abortions or euthanasia, but to those accepting the definitons, those actions ARE murder.


Until BOTH sides try to understand what the other side believes, there will never be a consensus in society as to what level of killing is to be allowed.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: bobad
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 10:10 AM

"Vatican official attacks U.S. Democrats as "party of death""

That's rather rich coming from the "religion of death".

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Bee
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 10:07 AM

When I was a teenager, before abortion was legal here, trains to New York, where it was legal, often carried young Nova Scotia women with dollars donated by women's groups to buy a safe abortion there. I really don't want to see that bit of history replayed in reverse.

Allayez, remember to vote!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 10:02 AM

http://blogs.reuters.com/faithworld/2008/10/01/vatican-official-attacks-us-democrats-as-party-of-death/

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: TIA
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 09:59 AM

On Sunday, the Priest stopped one inch short of explicitly endorsing McCain/Palin. He said it would be a sin and counter to the Catholic church to vote for someone who is not pro-life.

I came away a little puzzled. My father grew up in (and ran away from) a Church like Palin's, in which Catholics were routinely denounced as (misguided at best, or) under the sway of the devil. So, I did a little googling.

Apparently her church believes the same. They believe that Mary is the Great Harlot, and that their church prayer expedition to Nepal led (happily?) to the death of Mother Teresa, and an earthquake that destroyed the Basilica of St. Francis.

Does Palin believe this stuff? If so, I suppose that saying she is pro-life (her pro-choice comments to Katie Couric notwithstanding) absolves her of any Catholic hating.

more

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Riginslinger
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 09:07 AM

"A niece of mine was born on Hitler's birthday and is a lovely woman."

    Wait until they sign a new and updated Treaty of Versailles!

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Rapparee
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 09:06 AM

I would probably have made a lovely woman. My mother was.

Of course, I base my birth date upon what my mother told me. I don't remember seeing a calendar until several days after I was born and by then it was too late to do anything about it.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Ebbie
Date: 07 Oct 08 - 01:13 AM

Rap, I'm sure you are right. The two of you have a great deal in common.

A niece of mine was born on Hitler's birthday and is a lovely woman.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 07:53 PM

Hell, Rap, even you would be better as VP than Palin. Maybe you could work out a deal, based on the common birthdays. I'd hate to see what she'd do to your library if you truly traded, so maybe she'll toddle off to Alaska and bask in her publicity and not think about libraries.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Rapparee
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 03:31 PM

She's one smart, beautiful, wise, and wonderful person. Has to be, since she was born the same day I was (only 19 years apart).

My brother wants to see her elected. He reasons that when you say "That MOTHER in Washington!" you'll be speaking the truth.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 11:38 AM

Anagram for Maverick

Mark Vice.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Riginslinger
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 11:18 AM

"resists"

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 11:14 AM

Palin respects everything that is wrong with our country.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Stringsinger
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 10:36 AM

Palin represents everything that is wrong with our country.

Subject: Lyric: My song on Palin
From: Donuel
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 10:06 AM

I told the witchdoctor that Sarah Palin's cursed,
I told the witchdoctor that Sarah Palin's cursed,
And then the witchdoctor he told me what to do,
He said that

Oo, ee, oo ah ah,
Ting tang,
Wasila willa bing bang,
Oo ee, oo ah ah,
Ting tang,
Wasila willa bang bang

Oo, ee, oo ah ah,
Ting tang,
Wasila willa bing bang,
Oo ee, oo ah ah,
Ting tang,
Wasila willa bang bang

I told the witchdoctor that Wall Street's come unglued,
I told the witchdoctor the bail out isn't nice,
And then the witch doctor he gave me this advice,
He said that

Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Ting tang,
Wasila willa bing bang,
Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Ting tang,
Wasila willa bang bang

Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Ting tang,
Wala wala bing bang,
Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Ting tang,
Wasila willa bang bang

They've been takin cash from me just like it was their own,
And I'll admit I wasn't very smart,
So I went out and found myself a guy thats so much wiser,
And he taught me to listen to my heart,

My friend Obama he taught me what to say,
My friend Obama he taught me what to do,
I know we've been ripped off so I now say this to you

Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bing bang,
Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bang bang

Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bing bang,
Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bang bang

They've been takin cash from me just like it was their own,
And I'll admit I wasn't very smart,
So I went out and found myself a guy thats so much wiser,
And he taught me to listen to my heart,

My friend Obama he taught me what to say,
My friend Obama he taught me what to do,
I know that you'll be mine when I say this to you
Oh baby

Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bing bang,
Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bang bang

Come on and
Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bing bang,
Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bang bang

Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bing bang,
Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bang bang

Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bing bang,
Cred, dit, Dee fault swap,
Sub Prime,
Wasila willa bang bang

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: akenaton
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 03:58 AM

It's about energy , conviction,...... and theatre.

If the American people really understood American politics, they would hand the country back to the "Indians" and get back on the boat for home.

And I'm not just referring to the great unwashed, I mean all the liberals and apologists who think tinkering with the economic system can bring this wonderful thing called "change".

Actually, the liberals and pseudo- intellectuals we see on these boards are much more damaging to our heath than Mrs Palin and all her family put together.

Palin for president?....I think you might just get "change"

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: John O'L
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 02:02 AM

This about says it all:

Non Sequitur

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 06 Oct 08 - 12:01 AM

A friend sent a funny remark earlier, and I have the impression it was sent to her by someone who reads Garrison Keillor's editorial material. I can't find the actual link, but I'll keep looking. Meanwhile, here it is:

While suturing a cut on the hand of a 75-year old Arizona rancher whose hand was caught in a gate while working cattle, the doctor struck up a conversation with the old man. Eventually the topic got around to Sarah Palin and her bid to be a heartbeat away from being President.

The old rancher said, 'Well, ya know, Palin is a post turtle.'

Not being familiar with the term, the doctor asked him what a post turtle was.

The old rancher said, 'When you're driving down a country road and you come across a fence post with a turtle balanced on top, that's a post turtle.'

The old rancher saw a puzzled look on the doctor's face, so he continued to explain. "You know she didn't get up there by herself, she doesn't belong up there, she doesn't know what to do while she is up there, and you just wonder what kind of dumb ass put her up there to begin with."

Meanwhile, Keillor did say this in his blog at Salon.com on Sept. 24:

The Republican Party used to specialize in gimlet-eyed, steel-rim, crepe-soled common sense and then it was taken over by crooked preachers who demand we trust them because they're packing a Bible and God sent them on a mission to enact lower taxes, less government. Except when things crash, and then government has to pick up the pieces.

Some say the tab might come to a trillion dollars. Nobody knows. And Mr. McCain has not one moment of doubt or regret. He switches from First Deregulation Church to Our Lady of Strict Vigilance like you might go from decaf to latte. Where is the straight talk? Does the man have no conscience?

It wasn't their money they were playing with. It was yours. Where were the cops?

What we are seeing is the stuff of a novel, the public corruption of an American war hero. It is painful. First, there was his exploitation of a symbolic woman, an eager zealot who is so far out of her depth that it isn't funny anymore. Anyone with a heart has to hurt for how Mr. McCain has made a fool of her. Never mind the persistent cheesiness of his attack ads. And now this chasm of debt and loss and the gentleman pretends to be shocked. He was there. He turned out the lights. He sent the regulators home.

I picked up some of it. The rest is here.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 09:45 PM

Interesting article. I think it is right for sure about one thing, anyway...Palin is taking over as the central hope of the Republican Party in this election, because McCain's weaknesses are becoming very obvious. So, yeah, it is becoming an Obama vs Palin election.

And does she have the hubris to contemplate being president without even blinking? You betcha. She would not hesitate for a second.

It'll be interesting to see what happens.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: John O'L
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 09:24 PM

That is a scary article.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 08:50 PM

Palin wins McCain loses?

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Donuel
Date: 05 Oct 08 - 10:26 AM

Palin said "Obama is palin round with terrists"

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: Riginslinger
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 11:41 PM

The best political allies McCain/Palin could ever have.

Subject: RE: BS: Popular Views on Palin
From: GUEST,Jack the Sailor
Date: 04 Oct 08 - 10:48 PM

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