With a Celtic lilt

Subject: With a Celtic lilt
From: Simon G
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 05:44 AM

Cam. across a score today that said is should be played with a Celtic lilt.

What is a Celtic lilt?

1. Rare 3 stringed ancient Irish instrument which could be played with a bow or strummed.

2. A Leipreachán who specialises in percussion.

3. A band composed of at least 20 full voiced Irish men or women performing whilst promenading from the pub.

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: TheSnail
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 05:47 AM

According to the Coca-Cola website -

Unique to Great Britain and Ireland, 'Lilt' was first introduced in 1975. Packed full of 'totally tropical taste', it brings a little feel good Caribbean flavour into the lives of all who drink it!

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: Will Fly
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 05:51 AM

According to Wikipedia: "The Celtic Football Club is a Scottish football club based in the East End of Glasgow".

So, putting 2 and 2 together and making 5, a "Celtic Lilt" is a canned soft drink drunk by Glaswegian football supporters.

Makes sense to me.

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: Simon G
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 06:38 AM

I just knew I'd stir up some marketing types from Coca Cola

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: greg stephens
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 06:47 AM

From the context, I would guess it might be an Irish pick. Possibly as used by the navvies?

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: Will Fly
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 06:57 AM

Here's one: Irish pick

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: artbrooks
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 07:20 AM

Are you sure it's not a misspelling? Perhaps it is actually "Celtic tilt". If so, than I suggest it refers to the stance of basketball players who have been injured by a member of the Boston Celtics.

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: Emma B
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 07:23 AM

Celtic kilt?

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: Simon G
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 07:26 AM

Surely that is a guy called Pick with some very strange anatomy.

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 07:27 AM

Celtic Hilt?

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: mauvepink
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 07:34 AM

Can you lot not be serious about anything? I almost started to give a serious answer to this thread... oh dear :-(

lol

*shakes head*

:-)

mp

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: GUEST,Shaneo not logged in
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 07:40 AM

Irish music is dance music. When you play it you want both feet to start moving on their own as opposed to tapping along with the rhythm. This is called "lilt" and is characteristic of ITM.

The other thing that is distinctive about Irish reels is that they don't have to be played so fast that the fabric of the universe is warped. The music was "played to the slowest dancer" in the old days and there are still regional styles that play slowly but with lilt.

Taken From Banjo Reels

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: GUEST,Shaneo not logged in
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 07:42 AM

This Link May Now Work

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: Simon G
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 08:24 AM

What really confuses me is the score is in 3/4. I understand lilts in 4/4 but can't imagine how you do a 3/4 lilt.

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: TheSnail
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 08:29 AM

It's obvious when you realsie. It's a simply typo. Here's a man playing with a Celtic KILT!

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: mauvepink
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 08:32 AM

Not sure if these are any help Simon...

Celtic Lilt Discussions

Some examples or leading to other links?

Hope it helps a bit as music is a foreign language to me

mp

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: GUEST
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 08:35 AM

It is simply the effect of Gaelic phrasing and timing being reflected in the music,

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: MartinRyan
Date: 10 Oct 08 - 01:45 PM

You should hear how people speak Gaelic these days! You'd have a hard time dancing to it. Ciotach go leor, mo léan.

More seriously - think in terms of gentle swing.

Regards

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: Bert
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 02:20 PM

It's all explained here (in 3/4 time of course)

The Lilt of a Grandmother's Song

In the lilt of a Grandmother's song
That's where I learned right from wrong
there were maidens who sighed
there were martyrs who died
In the lilt of a Grandmother's song

With her silvery hair in her old rocking chair
she sang of a spinning wheel turning
when her son left the shore
to return nevermore
she sang of a fond Mother's yearning

In the lilt of a Grandmother's song
That's where I learned right from wrong
there were maidens who sighed
there were martyrs who died
In the lilt of a Grandmother's song

She sang me to sleep with songs of the deep
St. Brendan who sailed the world over
of pretty colleens
and the smell of poteen
gold sovereigns and a wild rover

In the lilt ...

From the old Shannon shore to the Mountains of Mourne
songs of laughter and kissing the Blarney
of the Orange and Green
and old Skibbereen
and the hills and the lakes of Killarney

In the lilt ...

Copyright Bert Hansell 2002

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: GUEST,Dave MacKenzie
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 07:29 PM

Wasn't it Bruce Guthro of Runrig who apologised for singing with a Celtic lilt?

Subject: RE: With a Celtic lilt
From: GUEST,pattyClink
Date: 11 Oct 08 - 11:05 PM

When I hear the phrase, I imagine a quality of lightness, floating, almost laughing, that you would hear in splendidly played instrumental or vocal music, whether Irish, Cape Breton, or Scottish. Particularly the no-words 'lilting' that used to be done.

I think the author means: no plodding, no thunking, no heavy-handedness, no overwrought quality.