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playing scallop shells

Jack Campin 12 Oct 08 - 07:17 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 13 Oct 08 - 12:06 AM
Jack Campin 14 Oct 08 - 07:17 PM
Tim Leaning 14 Oct 08 - 07:21 PM
Sorcha 14 Oct 08 - 07:38 PM
katlaughing 14 Oct 08 - 07:41 PM
katlaughing 14 Oct 08 - 07:42 PM
katlaughing 14 Oct 08 - 07:45 PM
katlaughing 14 Oct 08 - 07:52 PM
Peace 14 Oct 08 - 07:53 PM
GUEST,hg 14 Oct 08 - 08:06 PM
Old Roger 15 Oct 08 - 04:23 AM
Peace 15 Oct 08 - 04:28 AM
maeve 15 Oct 08 - 10:41 AM
GUEST,Dazbo at work 15 Oct 08 - 11:23 AM
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Subject: playing scallop shells
From: Jack Campin
Date: 12 Oct 08 - 07:17 PM

I have a few big scallop shells which should work well as friction idiophones. I believe they've been used in Cape Breton music among others. Anybody got any YouTube or soundfile links showing them in use, or know of commercial recordings?


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 13 Oct 08 - 12:06 AM

I like your request.

This is truly Mudcat worthy.

Fiddle with the ones you have - you may be discovering new territory. At least new for you.

HAVE FUN !!! - and post back to let us know.

(Silicon/Gorilla/GuttaPercha/Horse-hooves/Chipping) what might work best for tuning?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

I have some in a wind-chime
But, at the moment no time... no time.


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: Jack Campin
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:17 PM

Come on, SOMEBODY must know more.

I'd expected dozens of posts about exactly which species to use, whether both halves make the same sound, how to get better tone by soaking them in whisky or urine, and a link to a Google Books version of a 1922 tutor on scallopshell playing in Guarani by the Paraguayan Ministry of Ocean Fisheries. Has nobody else here even heard of the idea?

(I play the washboard; scallops have a brighter sound but seem a bit more rhythmically limited. And they're fragile - the one first-hand description I've heard said there were splinters of shell flying everywhere in performance).


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:21 PM

How can you tell the males from the females?
Maybe the males not so sharp


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: Sorcha
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:38 PM

Maybe like Spanish castanets?


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:41 PM

Ha! Found this at This Site:

    AS CUNCHAS (SHELLS)

ORIGIN AND HISTORY: Pilgrims have used them as a rhythmical instrument since the Middle Ages.

FAMILY TO WHICH IT BELONGS: Percussion (scraper).

MATERIAL: Scallop shells.

DESCRIPTION: It is a device used as a Galician folk instrument made up from two scallop shells because these are the biggest of all.

HOW TO PLAY IT: One shell is struck and scraped across the other to produce sound. They are usually used to accompany the bagpipe and the singing.

TYPE OF SOUND: It is characteristically sharp.

PERSONAL OPINION: We think it is a very typical Galician instrument due to the fact that it is easy to play and has a long tradition.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Off to look for more


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:42 PM

Also, this from Tattie:

Subject: RE: BS: Odd percussion indtruments
From: Tattie Bogle - PM
Date: 02 Dec 02 - 09:20 PM

From Santiago de Compostela: two scallop shells ( the symbol of St James -Sant Iago -) Hold one in left hand and run the rim of the other against it plus chink-chink in between: very effective, but when you use new shells expect bits to come flying off like dandruff everywhere!


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:45 PM

One more on the Galacian tradition:

The Cunchas Click Here for a photo (scroll down)(Figure 24)
Figure 24. The Cunchas
Figure 24. The Cunchas.

The cunchas or vieiras (scallop shells) have a privileged rank among the percussive instruments of popular Galician folk music. There is no need for many rules to be able to master and play them; all that is needed is a lot of practice. Place one in each hand, back to back, to obtain sharp sounds by rubbing the tips together; to obtain low sounds, rub the ends together. Another way to obtain different sound effects is to open and close your hands while rubbing the scallop shells together.


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: katlaughing
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:52 PM

I *think* they are the percussion heard, sort of, in this video.

Of course, you might ask the scallops if they'd like to play themselves as this one does about 1:45 into the video!**bg**


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:53 PM

I'm all for it!


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: GUEST,hg
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 08:06 PM

So are you actually IN Germany, garg?


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: Old Roger
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 04:23 AM

Sid Kipper plays scallop shells as a percussive accompaniment to some of his extremely funny songs. They are genuine Norfolk(UK) scallop shells. He also does likewise with two pairs of walnut shells which he attaches to his fingers and thumb like mini castanets. He takes these out of posh padded and lined case along with the story of his grandfather's virtuosity on those very instruments. Sid Kipper is not wholly loved by the British Folk fraternity as he basically takes the mickey out of many well known British folk songs by creating very funny parodies. He has quite a few CDs available if you can track down his website. He does complete shows. I am waiting for an opportunity to see one of his more recent works blowing the gaffe on the folk song collectors = "Vaughan Williams Stole My Folk Song".


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: Peace
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 04:28 AM

www.sidkipper.co.uk


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: maeve
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 10:41 AM

www.sidkipper.co.uk


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: GUEST,Dazbo at work
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 11:23 AM

A half Breton/half Swiss woman I know uses them, mainly scrapping them across each other with maybe a percussive hit at the start of the scrap (down and then across sort of motion) with the ridges at 90 degrees to the direction of motion. Can be a very effective accompanyment.


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Subject: RE: playing scallop shells
From: Jack Campin
Date: 31 Jul 11 - 08:05 AM

Found a video from the St Chartier festival this year where they feature, near the end:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxQnAr_D9Nk

What is the shirtless guy playing? A pair of razor clams?


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