TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 01:39 AM

None. They didn't have folksongs after TV was invented. In fact, if ya take some folks' definitions, they didn't have folksongs after electricity.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Ernest
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 01:44 AM

BTW, what does "BT" stand for?

Boring Trash?

;o)
Ernest

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Bernard
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 05:47 AM

It could stand for many things...!

'British Telecom', which was known as 'Post Office Telephones' at one time - and somehow they seem to have forgotten they aren't a nationalised industry these days, clinging on to the impression that they are the biggest and best... those halcyon days are long gone!

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: theleveller
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 08:26 AM

Ah, bring back Beattie, I say. Now she really was amusing - and a damn sight more empathetic than the pretentious nerd they're using at the moment.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 08:35 AM

Hey where do I sign up for a folk channel?

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: DMcG
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 11:02 AM

No, no, no; you're all assuming the channel is about musicians: it's not, its about the Legends.

Allison Gross - fact or fiction?
Captain Wedderburn - his geneology explored.
St Stephen and Herod - did they really meet?

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Charley Noble
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 12:35 PM

Now who was it who claimed "All the great folk singers are dead and I'm not feeling very well myself"?

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Jayto
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 01:39 PM

Remember what they say "Any press is good press." At least they thought of folk music. It is better to be bashed than forgotten. It may spur some thought in someone to look into it. I used to make fun of the Big Joe Polka Show that comes on TV here. I got to watching it for laughs and turned out finding some songs that I really liked. Funny how things work that way but it does.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 02:13 PM

I opine that there is a lot more fun and creativity to be found on the margins than in losing yourself in a flock of sheep.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 02:18 PM

Read any "What is folk music" thread and you'll quickly see that we do a better job of ridiculing folk than any media outlet ever could.

Besides, opinions are like assholes: everybody got one.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Jayto
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 02:18 PM

You have that right TJ. I agree 100%

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 02:27 PM

Have to disagree with you about TJ's post, JT. But you'd have to be Scottish or Canadian to understand . . . .

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 04:01 PM

Remember what they say "Any press is good press."

I don't believe it. Prove it.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 04:03 PM

After the guy promised he would never utter a pun for the rest of his life, the King agreed not to hang him. The fellow then said, "Well, no noose is good noose."

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Jayto
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 04:51 PM

Hey negativity got us to talking about it. I live in the US and the commercial doesnt't even show here but I know about it. That is my proof. Your turn lol jk

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 05:15 PM

WHAT commercial?



































(Had to ask.)

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Jayto
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 05:34 PM

The one they started the thread about Peace lol. If you meant that sarcastically I am laughing as I type this lol. Oh yeah I liked the "no noose is good noose". Peace check out my myspace I added 2 songs written by me and Bankley. You may have heard them I think you have on the SHB site. Come to think about it yeah you have. Bankley did such a great job I went ahead and put them on my site.
cya man

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,Edthefolkie
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:09 PM

"Advertising cons you into thinking you're the one
That can do what's never been done
That can win what's never been won
Meantime life outside goes on all around you" (from memory)

Maybe the klutz who wrote that BT ad has heard of Bob Dylan but I suspect he's more a fan of Robbie Williams and Simon Cowell. Anyway he'll be made redundant next week hopefully.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:19 PM

Hey lets not use the r word.
Some would say Folk is ......
Well you know ...
R

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Peace
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 07:19 PM

I'll do that, JT. The post was just me fart-arsin around.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,Albert
Date: 14 Oct 08 - 08:35 PM

This reminds me of that spoof Fast Show advertisement for a folk compilation:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hGrAcUtP8AE

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 01:57 AM

Yeh good! if only it were that entertaining....people wouldn't be taking the piss.

I'm not saying folkmusic is a branch of the entertainment industry, but you really do hear some VERY strange things around the clubs. more to do with the individuals need to get up and perform than a desire to give something to the audience.

don't get me wrong - the folkclub has always been a place to learn the craft. But really too often - you're left thinking - this bugger doesn't know this song, doesn't know how it goes, and he's making up the words....sod me! he doesn't care!

I dunno. I think I'm getting old and less tolerant of loveable English eccentrics.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 02:33 AM

Perhaps its time to perform folk/folk based music a little bit better, and a little slicker! Good Lord, its been done before, and people stopped laughing, and bought it. It sure beats being a 'Kumbaya-er' the rest of your lives, and boring people to tears!

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Gervase
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 03:03 AM

Oh cripes, here we go again.
You know you mustn't criticise the 'special ones' who make up half the playlist of the average f*** club! You'll have a fatwa declared before you can say "Bill Brewer, Jan Stewer, Peter Gurney, Peter Davy, Daniel Whiddon, Harry Hawk, Old Uncle Tom Cobbleigh and all".

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 03:30 AM

SO now I want to know Gervase, who are the 'special ones' and am I on that list?!

LTS

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 03:56 AM

Who cares?? Write, sing, play, and do it well, and from your heart of hearts!...you'll be on the 'special list'

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Peace
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 04:02 AM

Liz, any lady with three tits is on EVERYbody's list.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Gervase
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 04:44 AM

No, it's the 'care in the community' brigade, struggling through half-remembered, mumbled and inappropriate songs because they've suffered for their music, and now it's our turn.
Good grief, I'd never include you in that number, Liz!

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 04:57 AM

Three tits!!blblblblblblbl..well, slap me in the face!...please!

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Peace
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 05:30 AM

I'll look for the thread.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,One of those pesky young people
Date: 15 Oct 08 - 09:04 AM

"Owl TV
Deep Sea Fishing
Cats Do The Craziest Things

and

Legends of Folk Music."

to misquote the advert 'legends of folk music, I'd pay to watch that'!

There's music channels for every other type why not folk.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: melodeonboy
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 10:00 AM

I decided to contact BT to see what sort of response I'd get.

I wrote:

"I've been searching the schedules for the "Legends of Folk Music" programme that was pointed out in your recent televison advert, but have been unable to find it. Perhaps in future adverts you could indicate where we might find this programme!"

Their response:

"Thank you for your e-mail dated 14/10/08 about I want to complain - I have a general complaint. I am sorry that you could not find the programme you were looking for. I have escalated your suggestion to my colleagues in our Marketing department for consideration. We do appreciate the time you have taken in providing your feedback. All customer suggestions are valued so thanks for continuing to help us provide a better service. Thank you for contacting BT."

Yet again, fact is stranger (and significantly funnier) than fiction!

You really couldn't invent an answer like that, could you?

And I must confess to being rather excited by the prospect of my suggestion being "escalated". (Sounds a bit saucy to me, SNARFF, SNARFF!)

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 10:59 AM

What's the betting it's on the 'down' escalator?

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,LDT
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 11:05 AM

Well maybe if we all request a legends of folk music channel...it might work in getting it on the up escalator ;)

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Anne Lister
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 11:06 AM

I think some of you have missed the point .. Kris Marshall's character in the ad is actually excited to watch "Bee Movie", (and would be prepared to pay for it!) which was pretty much rubbished by all reviewers. So his taste in programmes is likely to be dreadful anyway - so what would he know about quality programmes like "Legends of Folk Music"? If only it existed.

Anne

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 11:32 AM

Hey Anne - it DOES exist.

In my head.

I wish you could watch episode three, it's BRILLIANT (except for that pesky BT advert every 5 minutes).

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,LDT
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 11:42 AM

(accidentily hit return button) oops.

Anyway I was going to say maybe this is time for a facebook campaign to get a folk channel. ;)


"I wish you could watch episode three, it's BRILLIANT (except for that pesky BT advert every 5 minutes)."
Who's on at the moment then? lol!

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 12:27 PM

Peter Bellamy with the Coppers - after this short break.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Aeola
Date: 17 Oct 08 - 04:46 PM

You know there is no bad publicity, all that has happened is that someone somewhere will be wondering what ' Legends of folk ' are!

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Becks
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 04:59 PM

I think there is alot more jokes about how rubbish BT is in comparison to taking the michael out of Folk music. BT had a website dedicated to how bad they are as a service provider www.btsucks.org unfortunately it was taken offline because of excessive traffic, lol.
I would love to watch Legends of Folk Music, would be more interesting than most of the drivel on telly!

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST,Captain Swing
Date: 18 Oct 08 - 07:46 PM

Why not? Folkies are ridiculous.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Tim Leaning
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 06:37 AM

"I think I'm getting old and less tolerant of loveable English eccentrics"
Hmmmmmm
You gotta learn to accept who you are man.
LOL

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 19 Oct 08 - 01:48 PM

I think if they had a channel called Legends of folk Music - it would be rubbish.

You're better off choosing what you like off YOUtube. If only it downloaded nicely and easily.


Tim, I've accepted that I'm old.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 05:09 AM

Well folks, they ran THAT ad again last night during the European football and guess what? THEY'D REMOVED THE LINE ABOUT 'LEGENDS OF FOLK MUSIC'!! It's been replaced by 'Pandora's Box TV' or somesuch.

And in the very same week we got Legends: The Chieftains on TV.

Coincidence? HA!

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: Jayto
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 10:28 AM

I like to be ridiculed. If I sought the hands down praise of the corporate world I would be a pop singer or writer. If they don't like me or my music then I am doing something right lol. If I don't like Brittany Spears why do I care if Britanny Spears doesn't like me. I crack on pop music and the mindless sheep that fall for all image and no conviction all the time. I really don't care if they laugh at me and my taste in music as well. That just means they don't get my beliefs and songs just like I don't get thiers. Let them bash me and folk music. If a top rated pop star opened for Bob Dylan I wouldn't go. If Bob Dylan opened for a top rated pop star I wouldn't go and would be mad that he was opening. Thinking about it that is dumb but that is sort of the mentality. I think everyone thinks they would like to have more Folk pushed by TV,Radio, and the music industry but if you really think about it would that really be that cool. Look at what the corporate fat cats did to rock, country, pop, just about every music style they decided to push. I think the idea is one that seems cool but in the end would be disastrous. I like it the way it is. I liked being mocked.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST
Date: 22 Oct 08 - 04:32 PM

Talking about folk music being ridiculed - in Monday's Irish Daily Mail there was a strip cartoon with a picture of a new grave. On the tombstone there was the legend :-

"????? ??????, Morris dancer and banjo player". (Can't remember the name).

Around the grave the mourners had funny hats on and had drinks in their hand.

Didn't have the chance to check out the English version of the paper.

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 23 Oct 08 - 04:00 PM

Thers a slight 'glitch' where the change has been edited in

Subject: RE: TV Ad: Folk music ridiculed - again
From: GUEST, Sminky
Date: 24 Oct 08 - 05:04 AM

Yeah, I noticed that, SPB-Cooperator. They ran it at least twice last night during the footy on Channel 5.

Strangely though, whilst the first one had an obvious glitch, the second one apparently didn't (and I was looking out for it). Can they edit these things so quickly?