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katlaughing 01 Nov 08 - 12:25 PM
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Subject: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 12:25 PM

Two years ago, I wrote a novel during the month of November as part of NaNoWriMo. I am pleased with the comments I've received about it and plan to publish it next year.

I have signed up to do another starting today, though I probably won't get much written until after this weekend and the election. But, I am trying to decide which story gets written. One I've had in mind for quite some time, while another was presented as an idea on one of the de-cluttering threads. I like both and also have some short stories which have let me know they want to be Novels, so I am taking a poll of readers' preferences. Please vote for whichever you think sounds the most interesting (although you don't HAVE to!{G})

(Nov. 2- Cutting this back to the bare minimum description, now that I have settled on No.1. Thanks, again, folks!)

1) dad's oral history
2) Declutterers
3) This is a mystery/horror story about a woman who goes to an auction of the estate of an old recluse.
4) This would be a romance with mystery and past-lives involved.
5) One more, another horror...a woman moves into her deceased uncle's mansion.

Okay, thanks for reading this far! Please vote the number of whichever one strikes you as most interesting and I will tally the results. Please don't feel compelled to vote!

Thanks!!

katfeelingsomewhatintrepid!{g}


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 12:37 PM

I think it has to be the oral history. Hands down.

I've read versions of those horror stories, they're fun and probably easy to write, but the one that is going to cry out to be written is the pioneer history and related stories.

Working on that romance, you'll wonder why you didn't buckle down and write the family stories. The romances are a dime a dozen, Harlequin and Silhouette crank them out every month. Someone gets paid a few thousand dollars then uses the formula again and again. If you write enough of them you might break out of the Harlequin stable and publish them in mainstream publishers, but they actually aren't that easy to market.

The oral history is something that you might well interest a local press in, or a university press. No income to speak of, but you would publish it.

My two cents.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Becca72
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 12:48 PM

All sound interesting to me, but I'm partial to mystery/horror so I'd vote for any of those. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Bee
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 12:54 PM

1,2, and 5. Sorry, too many!

1 sounds like a virtuous and interesting effort, but oh, the research necessary to make it realistic! Could you manage it in the time allowed?

2 sounds interesting because it would by its nature include us, and of course that makes us feel important! But I think aside from that aspect, it would be appealing and interesting.

5 because I love spooky mystery novels, period. But besides my personal preferences, this might be the easiest to write quickly, as little research outside the magical corridors of your own mind would be needed.

So, I'm no help at all!

But having read some snippits of your writing, I suspect you could pull any of them off - good luck!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 01:00 PM

Thanks, so far! Bee, you are about as undecided as I am!{g}

I should have said, about the first, that I do have the oral history written up with my own narrative and footnotes as I have done loads of research specific to my ancestors. I would not use it word-for-word, but I could refer to it for events, etc. I am daunted, a bit, by being sure I do have it historically accurate, though, as Bee notes. Of course, during NaNoWriMo, one turns off one's Inner Editor and just Writes, so any glaring mistakes could be remedied post-November. The main thing is to get 50,000 words written within the month!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 01:18 PM

3. It's something I can identify with, since I'm often drawn to things my wife hates!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Bert
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 02:56 PM

My number one is number one, the history. I can't wait to read it.


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 03:29 PM

Number one is the one that only you can write.


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: peregrina
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 03:29 PM

Number one sounds amazing, and yes, who else could tell that story?


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 04:01 PM

I like #3. I'm not into 'Westerns' and I am not sure Romances should even be published! LOL


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 06:35 PM

Write the one in which the female protagonist has the largest breasts.


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Sorcha
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 06:40 PM

BEE DUB! LOL! YOU bad, boy!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 07:30 PM

Number one Kat - that would be a fascinating book.


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Escapee
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 08:12 PM

A difficult choice, but 3 sounds good to me. Best of luck with whichever bears fruit.
SKP


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 08:21 PM

Number One. Only you can write it well.


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 11:39 PM

3 and/or 5.

But really, the one you are ITCHING to write, because that's the one you're ready to write for us. Unless you NEED to write one in particular to have AFGO-- to write for YOU.

All depends on WHY you want to write this one, I think. Know that, and you'll know exactly which one to tackle.


BTW, are any of them poems, instead? Or new old Child-type ballads? Any of 'em pictures as opposed to words? I'm picking up competing media, trying to get OUT. Let 'em ALL out, in some form?
?!?!? I dunno-- hey, you can always synthesize/integrate.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 12:29 AM

Well, folks. I've been itching to get at it, so...No. 1 it is! I know I won't be able to do it justice as far as accuracy goes, but if I get it down I can go back and fix those types of things after referring to my research. It just feels as though the time is right. I know I've been promising the non-fiction for a long time and it just isn't long enough for a full book, so I am going to "flesh them out" so to speak and make it fiction. Thanks to you ALL for your comments, votes, and support. I will be deleting the choices after tonight, so that I can keep track of where my "ideas" go. I should have said that at the beginning.

So, I started on it about twenty minutes ago and have 830 words, so I guess this is the right one. I'll post a link, later, if you'd like to keep track of my progress, i.e. word count at nanowrimo.

Thanks, again!

BTW< Susan, there ARE family pics and poems, but I don't think it would be right to call this fiction if i include them. I'll have to think on that one.:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 12:37 AM

Just for BWL, add big boobs on one character. :-) It'll make Amos happy also. The rest of us couldn't care one way or the other.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 01:52 AM

Oh, my! I might have to have them heaving as this will be set in the late 1800s, but hey, just for BWL and Amos, I just might!{g}(MY granddad did write a love poem to my grandma which mentions something about her bosoms or it may have been breast, even. Evidently he wrote a lot of love poems to her, but my dad felt they were too personal to keep, so he destroyed them. Luckily, we have two which he missed, one of which I made into a song.

I hate not being able to use the poems and photos. Maybe there will have to be a small companion volume to show where the inspiration for the fiction came from?!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:37 AM

From: Bee-dubya-ell
Date: 01 Nov 08 - 06:35 PM

Write the one in which the female protagonist has the largest breasts.

Jeez, Bee-dubya-ell!!...its shape..not size!!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 07:09 AM

I think Buford just took a crap on Boberts' deck so I was thinking you might add that in somewhere. Otherwise I vote for number one of course.

But you don't have to include that childishness about big tits and all. Gawdam, how juvenile can this place get???? You don't need that! Great legs and a nice ass are a necessity though show go with that.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: wysiwyg
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 07:25 AM

Now there's a TRUE friend. :~)

I hate not being able to use the poems and photos. Maybe there will have to be a small companion volume to show where the inspiration for the fiction came from?! I suspect that by the time THAT project happens, it will be (need to be, properly be) a separate, stand-alone project. In your mind and heart, of course they are parallel, forever-entwined projects. But all art has to stand on its own two feet, for the beholder. Your art is to make it theirs as well as yours (that Chinese dish, Double Happiness). And by the time you get to that stritly-reality, documentarian view-- looking back from there to the present fictional project-- this one will have taken its place alongside all the OTHER things he inspired.

They are two projects, each to be done in its own time. A shift of viewpoint, then, will probably come out something like, "Here's my Dad's heart. It inspired so much that's important to me, including but not limited to [insert list]. His inspiration is still revealed to me on a daily basis, and a current project he inspired is [insert project in the works]....." etc.

What's the right word for a mega-ology? A lot bigger than a trilogy. Can't get ahold of it at the moment.

:~)

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Bee
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:33 PM

On further consideration, I think you should go for the first one, the oral history, and treat it poetically!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 12:13 AM

{g} Thanks!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: jeffp
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 03:02 PM

When you publish your dad's oral history, I will buy it. Write on!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Beer
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 03:16 PM

I like number one because I don't read mysteries, horrors or love stories.
Beer (adrien)


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Nov 08 - 03:59 PM

Boy, going from the text of my dad's oral history and my own few paragraphs to fleshing them all out in a fictional sense is really something! I am finding much more to write about without the constraints of non-fiction. I am beginning to think I will make it to 50,000 words by the end of the month but it won't be finished! Which is okay..it feels tremendous to get this started and see where it might lead. Thanks to you all for the encouragement. I haven't had much time to work on it until now, after the election and all, but I am up to 4,641 words.{g}


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 06 Nov 08 - 07:52 PM

The great thing with real life is that sometimes things happen that no fiction writer would dare to put in a story, because they are just too improbable. (Somehow everything comes back to Obama this week...)


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 06 Nov 08 - 07:56 PM

No kidding, McGrath! I just heard that Colorado will now have the first African American Speaker of the House in the state government!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 08:47 PM

9390 and counting!


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Rowan
Date: 09 Nov 08 - 09:20 PM

1667 words a day, every day for a month!!!!
Go, Kat!!

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Nov 08 - 05:42 PM

Thanks, Rowan! I have done 5868 today, which brings me to a total of 21,185, so far. My goal is 30,000 by Thursday. Wish me luck!?:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Nov 08 - 07:37 PM

Slowly but surely getting there: 27,515 as of right now and I hope to reach 30,000 by tomorrow.


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: Bill D
Date: 19 Nov 08 - 07:51 PM

Just curious.... what is the significance of word count? Are there standard 'levels' that writers use to measure progress?


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 19 Nov 08 - 09:23 PM

Oh, sorry, Bill. It's part of National Novel Writing Month aka www.nanowrimo in which one makes a promise to oneself as do thousands of others around the world to write a 50,000 word novel in the month of November. I learned about it, here, from Capri-Uni who has also done it in the past. I did it two years ago. It's a lot of fun with serious and fun discussion forums, pep talk emails, etc.


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Subject: RE: BS: kat's poll - readers' choices?
From: katlaughing
Date: 29 Nov 08 - 10:55 PM

It is done. Well, the rough first draft, anyway. 50,167 words or thereabouts. I figure some of you musta been channelling my dad, telling me you thought I should do the one on his oral history. I really, really wanted to finish today, not wait 'til the deadline of midnight tomorrow. I didn't know why esp., but just checked my dad's obit thread. He died four years ago to the day...somehow I think he knows what I have done and it's okay with him. Thanks, again, my friends. It seems I owe so many thanks and for so much in the wonderful world of Mudcat.

luvyakat

And for now, here is how it starts out,unedited, pretty much how my great-grandparents hooked up:

There was a load crash against the outside door. The snow was deep and the air bitterly cold. It seemed to magnify every sound; tree branches breaking with loud cracks sounded like the crack of whips the muleskinners used. One had to keep their mouth well-covered when outside; the cold was so deep and relentless it could freeze the lungs with a deep breath.

Leadville was at the top of the world, it seemed, so different than the green and warmth of West Virginia. Mary started when the crash came. Looking at her father, she said, "Who in the world could that be?"

With his soft, slow drawl, her father, Abraham, glanced out the window, but it was too iced over. The snow was so deep, they'd had to dig down to get to the doors of the houses. Rows of them lined every street; their rooftops barely visible, tunnels leading to the streets which were kept as clear as possible. There was so much snow, it took teams of horses, men, and sledges all day, every day it snowed, to keep up with removing it. It was important work, as the mining for ore never stopped. The workers and townspeople needed to get out no matter the snow, cold or wind. Abe walked over to the kitchen door, the one which looked out on the side yard where they had a small coal shed. Opening it up, he was surprised to see a bundle of a man lying on the ground with a crutch next to him. His other crutch was up behind him at the top of the snow bank. He wasn't a very big man, but what there was was solid and it was obvious he knew how to handle himself.

Mary stood behind her father, looking on. Seeing who it was, she turned the corners of her mouth down, and said with a frown, "That's a fine way to enter other people's houses!"


Lots more description, dialogue and research to do, but I've got the skeleton at least! Thanks, again!


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