Broadstairs 2009

Subject: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Norcsalordie
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 09:48 AM

Thought we'd like to grab pole position in this prestigious thread !

The Broadstairs folk week website now says 2009 - and although much of the content looks remarkably like 2008 :-) it's nice to see the first stirrings - good luck to you and your band of elves Kim, you've got a lot of hard slog in front of you! We had a great time this year despite the weather and we are really looking forward to coming back in August when a little more sun and a little less wind and rain should make everyone feel happier

Folk week website

In the meantime on Friday January 2 we are appearing at the popular Wrotham Arms in Broadstairs - thanks for the gig Jen, we aim to set the New Year off in fine style for you

The Wrotham Arms

Norcsalordie

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 02:19 PM

Yes, that does look a bit not next year.

Can we start a wish list? I'm betting that Eliza C may be a bit busy, so can we have "Martin and Friends"? I bet you'd get a pile of luminaries to turn out and work with him on that?

Bluehorses and the Welsh fiddle goddess Liz Prendergast were having a year off, so August 2008 would be good for a reunion gig.

And she and Jon Loomes could have a cider-drinking contest - and oh, yes, I can put up with any amount of gigs from him...

She's prettier than he is though!

For some blues, there is probably no white man playing better than Kris Dollimore at the moment.

Maybe the technically best female singer of folk songs is June Tabor.

Any more bright ideas?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Fidjit
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:21 PM

Johnny Silvo

Chas

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:30 PM

Good idea.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 03:43 PM

yes please

and Eric Bogle

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 06:00 PM

Wasn't he there the year before last?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 02 Nov 08 - 06:14 PM

Dave Goulder's booked, I think?

Kitty

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: BB
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 03:47 PM

I understand that Eric Bogle is already booked for '09, and so is Dave Goulder. Also Rosie Doonan, Anne Lister, Jerry Epstein.

Barbara

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 04:01 PM

WOW !! - the power of Mudcat !!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Arnie
Date: 03 Nov 08 - 05:33 PM

Well, you won't have to wait for 2009 to see Johnny Silvo in Kent, 'cos we've got him at the Friday Folk Club, Deal on 14th Nov. Further details on our website at www.dealfolkclub.co.uk (sorry, can't get the blue clicky to work)

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Hamish
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 02:18 AM

Despite nobody loving a clever-dick, Deal Folk Club

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Fidjit
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 05:10 AM

Well say hallo to Johnny from me.

Chas

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Abdul The Bul Bul
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 07:29 AM

Trio Threllfall.

Al

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: synbyn
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 09:55 AM

looking forward to seeing anne lister- great songwriter

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: BB
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 11:53 AM

Is that Trio Threlfall on the wish list, or booked?

Barbara

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Girl Friday
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 09:03 PM

Anne Lister has asked for a return booking at Orpington Friday Folk next year. Happy to oblige.I'd like to see Steve Tilston make more than the flying visit he managed this year at Broadstairs.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Les in Chorlton
Date: 04 Nov 08 - 09:04 PM

Look, get on BBC and see history

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Proogle
Date: 05 Nov 08 - 05:26 AM

Bring back Byards Leap at the end of the Week and Wheeler Street...but put Wheeler street on in the Pav cause the pubs were attrocious to get into when they were in them!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,dillie the oast ouse opper
Date: 05 Nov 08 - 06:17 AM

yeah put wheeler street in the Pav- it would be an awesome awesome event!

I saw them at the hazlitt Theatre a couple of weeks ago, and they were fabulous

Charlotte

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Norcsalordie
Date: 16 Nov 08 - 03:35 PM

We thought that some of you might be interested to view our web page devoted entirely to Broadstairs Folk Week

Folk Week

from the page is a link to us on youtube at the 2008 Folk Week and although the quality of the recording might leave something to be desired we couldn't have written a better caption ourselves !

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: melodeonboy
Date: 16 Nov 08 - 03:45 PM

There's a very good chance that J***o G***o will be there again!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 17 Nov 08 - 12:13 PM

a bloody mini bus to get us up the piggin hill day after day, security that works, and bring back ded orse

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 17 Nov 08 - 01:25 PM

RM - I have a plan - a horse drawn omnibus, and Seamus can eat the grass in the camping field and also fertilise it!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Proogle
Date: 17 Nov 08 - 03:08 PM

LOL! indeed DHM FOR THE WIN! WE LOVE THEM! LET THEM DANCE!!!!!!! pweeze?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 03 Jan 09 - 06:12 AM

Thanks Jen for a great evening last night at the Wrotham Arms, pleased to have the chance to chat. Norcsalordie were on fine form and The Islander was favourite for the night - btw it's on YouTube from when they appeared in Eltham.

Glad to hear they'll be back on May 1 - see you then !

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 03 Jan 09 - 11:41 AM

Thanks Rafflesbear and Norcsalordie. What a great night! It was wonderful to see 'non-folkies' walk in and not leave - everyone had a superb time.

If anyone has not had a chance to catch Norcsalordie they are terrific ... well worth checking out.

What a great start to 2009.

Jen

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 03 Jan 09 - 02:09 PM

even seamus would give up on that hill, however the vardo may well be pulled in by seamus, ifn i can find some grazing for him. hopefully a field not too far away, with better security than the campsite last year, i wonder how many people WONT be coming following last years fiasco.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 03 Jan 09 - 02:47 PM

oohhh! what happend last year?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: The Barden of England
Date: 03 Jan 09 - 04:13 PM

There's no doubt that the walk up that hill is a complete 'Bas**rd' and the sooner a bus is put on at a slightly lesser fare than a cab - the better. Some of us are no longer 'Strapping young things'and the walk with the odd instrument or two is no longer an option. How's about it Broadstairs - there is a need - and Sidmouth, and Ely recognised it a few years back. It's a no brainer!!!!
John Barden

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 03 Jan 09 - 06:00 PM

Anyone who wants to lobby for a shuttle bus in folk week try this - the more that write the better the chance I reckon

Stagecoach in East Kent,
Bus Station,
St George's Lane,
Canterbury,
Kent CT1 2SY

Email: [e-mail]

if you write you might like to support the idea of a season ticket for the week for any journey on the shuttle starting or finishing at the campsite

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 03 Jan 09 - 06:06 PM

Surely one should lobby the fest organisers?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 03 Jan 09 - 06:36 PM

Why?

do they own buses?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Kampervan
Date: 03 Jan 09 - 07:17 PM

I suppose that there would be too much red tape/insurance problems/elfansafety issues for some enterprising person to spend a week with a minibus operating a dedicated shuttle service.

Call this number for a lift, £10/trip, (shared by the number of people carried). £10 each for one, £1 each for 10.

Naaahh, that's got to be illegal.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: melodeonboy
Date: 04 Jan 09 - 07:13 AM

Sad to say, you're probably right, Kampervan!

I do think that this issue should be looked into. Surely it can't be impossible to set up something farly simple that would pay for itself.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jan 09 - 10:32 AM

Ideally two minibuses - one from the end of Queen's Road, and the oher going the pretty way, Nelson Place, Crow Hill, Lindenthorpe Road, Baird's Hill, Sowell St., St Peter's Road, then both go front entrance, back entrance and round the field to the taps.

But I still think that the festival itself will have the most "clout" to organise something with local bus companies or radiocab companies.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: BB
Date: 04 Jan 09 - 04:57 PM

Then try writing to the festival office! The artistic director does drop in here occasionally, but it wouldn't really be up to her but to Jo Tuft, the overall festival director.

Barbara

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 04 Jan 09 - 06:08 PM

why then where the mini buses already on site last year, not used to their full potential, i did get a lift up the hill once as i remember, we chipped in the hat ithink,

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 04 Jan 09 - 06:37 PM

I've made an enquiry with a local company - I'll let you know if anything comes back

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 06:04 PM

whats wrong with using the minibuses that are always on site in a more productive manner insteads of going to outside companies, will security be looked at. as i know several people who are not going this year due to the damage and headless chicken syndrome of last year.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 06:21 PM

Broadstairs Organisers - Remember me!!!? I'm the one who last year made many comments about what was not working at Broadstairs 2008!!! I.E lack of transport; lack of security; lack of "Folk"; ecess of prepacked, amplified sameness; hordes of drunken crowds and general rudeness and indifference (just to name a few) What did I get? A whole lot of negative comments from people belonging to the "Broadstairs Appreciation Society" slagging ME off and that I had no right to say them.

WELL, looking at the number of comments that have been made on THIS thread for THIS year's Festival - what do you know???? - They seem to be saying the same things that I got crucified for last year!!!!

Following on from the comment last year, of "If you don't like it, then stay away" - well, you'll be pleased to know - I'm not bothering this year(and there are strong mutterings from a number of others). I'll be lighted with Sidmouth and then catch up on my dirty washing during Broadstairs week.

Do yourselves a BIG favour and start listening to the grass roots. They don't want miracles, they just want VALUE FOR MONEY and to NOT be treated like a year on year Cash Cow!!!

Kev The Clogs (Kevin Tudor) - Proud to be saying what a lot of people are thinking!!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 06:55 PM

Drinkin again Kevin?

I don't think I was criticising you for that then was I?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 06:57 PM

Not at all Hoff - no offense taken, as didn't interpret anything you have said as personal. (Not had much to drink). Just "Here we go again" - Red Rag to a Bull time with this little Baby!!!

Kev

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: romany man
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 05:26 AM

now now children lets not get into who said what who did or didnt do that, facts are facts, broadstairs last year was a general failure as far as security, value for money,was concerned, thfts damage to property and near misses, (brick through the tent) many people went home early from the campsite i was on due to the problems on site not being addresed, the music within the pubs was not what was expected by many, the closure of the high street and the outside visiting thuggery at that end of the high street, caused untold problems, even one of the landlords was bottled, nothing to do with the organisers i know, but surely someone in the appreciation society should be looking at the things that went wrong , not the things that went right , (there must have been something, sadly i didnt find anything and was glad to go home.) the morris sides are getting fewer, the real trad music was down in the last pub on the high street but you had to walk the gauntlet of the yobs in the now closed high street and yes i can see why it was closed, but most of the thuggery was from outside visitors not festival attendeas, the stalls in the outdoor market are basically all the same, inside the tented market better, sadly again organisors are not looking at whats there for the paying public only, in my opinion whats going into the collective pocket of orgaisation, i hear mutterings at a recent council meeting the mayor is expressing concerns re the festival, in my opinion the festival is heading down the selfdestruct road, and it will become as kev has said one cash cow for a few, so please look at what happened and what is likely to happen if controls are not put into practice ,listen to what is being said by the grass roots who attend year on year, stop polishing your egos and be honest, forthright and please please get back on track, look at sidmouth, witby, etc, lets try and be constructive not get into a general slagging session.

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Kev The Clogs
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 08:49 AM

Bravo Ken - you KNOW that is what I am saying now and what I was saying last year. Hopefully, my comments, your comments and increasingly, others' comments will now be looked at and listened to instead of being derided.

Kev

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,Rafflesbear
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 09:21 AM

I missed a lot last year obviously no trouble whatever - ok perhaps I was lucky but I would be surprised if a number of the early departures were not down to the high winds and rain - I found myself helping at least one camper to stop their tent disappearing towards Margate

There doesn't seem to me to be anything wrong in principle with the festival. Maybe with the sun shining the downsides don't seem so far down and the upsides seem higher

It would appear that there are issues that need addressing but that doesn't mean that the whole festival is flawed

Each year is an opportunity to do better than the previous year and as Barbara suggests in her post the best action is to contact the organisers - Have you done that and did you get a reply ?

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: GUEST,dillie - of the broadstairs appreciation soc
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 09:26 AM

Hello again

just wondering why you are still all talking about last year and regurgitating your misgivings from the last festival instead of in fact suggesting improvements or being positive in a way such as other posters on here...I agree some things could be improved, (security WAS improved by the end of the week) but talking about how one local fool bottled a landlord in the context of the festival etc is a bit wide of the mark.

The fesitvals organisers do listen and I can prove it - we have loads of bands coming to play this year (yet to be announced to the general public) that the paying customers and the general public requested during/before/after the festival last year. Improvements will be made where possible - of course they will.

there is some really positive news about the festival this year such as the fact that Spiers and Boden and Glorystrokes are booked to play, and also the fact that i have booked a whole week of glorious sunshine via the internet shopping site 'sunbay' so we're guaranteed sunshine all week. (that last bit might be a teensy lie)

if you really were unhappy then do stay away, but we plan to have a jolly old time of it. Some of the week last year was a little bit fraught with issues, but that is nothing on the year my tent got nicked in sidmouth, or the 'glorious' weather at 'wetby' folk week.

I do hope you have a great time at the other festivals this year, and hope to see you there, but in times like this, when everyone finds themselves in straightend circumstances, I find a bit of positivity goes a long way.

this is not to belittle your comments or in any suggest that what you have to say is not valid. If that's what you think, then fine. Each to their own. I just think there is much to be had from what is a lovely festival, in a gorgeous town in a part of Kent that is traditionally less advantaged than other areas and needs our ongoing support to make 2009 a brilliant year.



Happy new year.

Charlotte x

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: melodeonboy
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 09:51 AM

"It would appear that there are issues that need addressing but that doesn't mean that the whole festival is flawed"

Quite!

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: BB
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 11:48 AM

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: BB
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 11:49 AM

Sorry, didn't mean to do that!

Barbara

Subject: RE: Broadstairs 2009
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 05:51 PM

Er - what did you mean?