BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 09:56 PM

US $1.61 9/10 per US gallon here in Idaho today. Cheaper in Salt Lake City.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Bill D
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 09:46 PM

$1.81 is as low as I've seen in the metro Wash DC area. I know where it's probably 5-7¢ lower, but it takes $1.00s worth to get there.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 09:38 PM

It's dropped to €1.04 per litre here in W.Ireland - but nothing like the €0.50 it ought to be (with reference to the current $50 barrel)!

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: GUEST,guest
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 08:37 PM

$1.54 9/10, Woodbridge, Virginia

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Cluin
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 06:50 PM

85.9 per litre here in the Sault.

Funny how it's been dropping only .4 or .5 cents for a while, then overnight it jumps up 8 or 10 cents. No real reason behind it.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Ebbie
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 06:15 PM

Well, glory be! This morning, in Juneau, Alaska, I saw $2.99! First time under $3.00.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Sorcha
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 06:04 PM

$1.67 for the low unleaded now. Diesel is still pretty high.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 04:14 PM

What side of town are you on? It's at $1.669 this morning here on the southwest side of Fort Worth.

SRS

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 01:35 AM

WOW! Go Sherman, Texas! $1.589 here in Fort Worth, Texas! Cheers!

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 11:48 AM

89.9pence per litre here on Saturday... I was mildly surprised when my tank wouldn't take any more and the meter still read less than £30... If only I'd remembered to take my 5p off a litre voucher in as well... !

LTS

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Teribus
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 11:43 AM

"his unworkable and unsustainable system of irresponsible capitalist greed has caused a worldwide economic slowdown, possibly a global recession." - Stigweard

So GWB invented capitalism??? Thought it had been around for a damn sight longer than that, of course it has, and it's weathered far worse storms than the current one in the process, which is more than you can say for any alternative system.

By the bye Stig, you cannot "force" people to be either greedy or stupid. This whole stramash started with home loans being given to people in the US who never should have been given them by finance brokers Fanny and Freddie. Now who was it that set those up again??

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Beer
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 12:54 PM

Montreal area.
Per Litre. Go to the small writing at the top of the page where it say's click here in blue.
Beer (adrien)
http://www.montrealgasprices.com/Chateauguay/index.aspx

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Stu
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 10:19 AM

"Now that the price is tumbling does he or they get credit for the decrease in prices as well??"

Of course he does - his unworkable and unsustainable system of irresponsible capitalist greed has caused a worldwide economic slowdown, possibly a global recession. The resulting drop in oil prices as energy demand drops in the face of financial uncertainty has, at least seen the price come down to a more reasonable level.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Teribus
Date: 28 Nov 08 - 06:03 AM

So when the price of oil per barrel was going through the roof to many on this forum that was all part of a great Bush/Neocon conspiracy to enslave and control the world. Now that the price is tumbling does he or they get credit for the decrease in prices as well??

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: fumblefingers
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 10:21 PM

$1.499 Yesterday in Sherman, Texas

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: gnu
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 02:59 PM

C$0.7813/l, regular self-serve today. Our prices are frozen weekly at 00:00h, Thursday, +/- 2 cents "delivery allowance"... whatever the heck that is.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Phot
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 02:58 PM

Petrol here is now below 90 pence a litre for the first time in over a year. Shame the Discovery is going to off the road for the next two years for a rebuild then! But a Skoda thats giving over 150bhp will keep me amused for the time being(Bye Bye licence!)

When the old girl returns there will be a 4.6V8 under the bonnet, and I'm going to try and build a web site about it.(Yep, I'm sad!)

As for diesel engines, unless it was made by Gardiner of Patricroft. or a Naipier Deltic..........forget it!

Wassail!! Chris

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: kendall
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 01:18 PM

I live with a Brit. Yes, I knew.

I like the diesel engine for a number of reasons, but when I get behind a huge truck or bus that is spewing out great clouds of black smoke that; I don't like.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Backwoodsman
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 11:30 AM

"Someone has to pay for that "free" national health care you enjoy. :-)"

Not 'free' at all Kendall - we pay 11.8% of our salary in National Insurance to pay for, inter alia, the NHS. That's on top of 22 - 40% income tax (but I'll bet you already knew that, you little tinker!) :-) :-)

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Teribus
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 08:16 AM

Something for Kendall

"Motor Vehicle Emission Controls: Fuel Types

Introduction
In recent years concern about exhaust emissions from motor vehicles has been increasing. To combat this, the motor industry has been promoting the diesel car as cleaner than petrol cars, due to their greater fuel economy and reduced maintenance requirements. However, diesel cars have very different emission characteristics, and an increase in diesel cars at the expense of petrol cars could have important implications on urban air quality, smog formation, global warming and other environmental issues. Emissions of lead are falling due to the banning of leaded fuel in the UK and many other countries. Recently there has been much debate about which fuel, diesel or petrol, is the cleanest in terms of exhaust emissions. Unfortunately there is no clear answer due to the lack of measurements of emissions from both types of fuel, although data from track tests and dynamometers have shown certain trends.

Emissions from Petrol Vehicles

Emissions from petrol cars have been dramatically reduced by the introduction of catalytic converters, which oxidise pollutants such as CO to less harmful gases such as CO2. When compared to petrol cars without catalysts, catalyst cars have much lower CO, HC and NOx emissions, at the expense of CO2 emissions, which increase due to the oxidation of carbon monoxide to CO2. As a consequence of this, a catalyst car will also use slightly more fuel and become less efficient. However, despite these improvements, petrol cars with catalysts still produce more CO and HC than diesel cars, although exhaust emissions of NOx and particulates are much lower than diesel cars. In fact particulate emissions from petrol cars are so low that they are not routinely measured.

Emissions from Diesel Vehicles

Diesel fuel contains more energy per litre than petrol and coupled with the fact that diesel engines are more efficient than petrol engines, diesel cars are more efficient to run. Diesel fuel contains no lead and emissions of the regulated pollutants (carbon monoxide, hydrocarbons and nitrogen oxides) are lower than those from petrol cars without a catalyst. However, when compared to petrol cars with a catalyst, diesels have higher emissions of NOx and much higher emissions of particulate matter.

Cold Start Emissions

Emissions from cars are greatest when an engine is cold. On a cold day a petrol car may take up to 10km to warm up and operate at maximum efficiency; a diesel car may only take 5km. Consequently, diesel cars produce less unburned fuel during a cold start, which will result in lower emissions of carbon monoxide and hydrocarbons. Diesel cars could make a significant impact on air quality in urban areas where most cold starts occur, especially when it is considered that a catalyst on a petrol car would take several minutes to reach its operating temperature. Overall, diesel cars emit less hydrocarbons, carbon monoxide and lead pollution than petrol cars, but produce more noxious gases and significantly more particulates.

Emissions for Road Vehicles (per vehicle kilometre)

Vehicles - Carbon monoxide - Hydro-carbons - Oxides of nitrogen - Particulate matter - Carbon dioxide
Petrol car without a catalyst* - 100 - 100 - 100 - 0 - 100
Petrol cars with a catalyst - 42 - 19 - 23 - 0 - 100
Diesel cars without a catalyst - 2 - 3 - 31 - 100 - 85

* Petrol cars without catalysts have been given a relative value of 100 for comparison

Despite much debate over which car, petrol or diesel, is cleaner, weighing up the advantages and disadvantages is not easy. For example, diesel cars have been promoted, as they produce less CO and HC on average when compared to petrol cars, and they have greater fuel economy producing less CO2 per km. However recent health concerns about particulate matter have given diesels a less environmentally-friendly image, as have the higher emissions of nitrogen oxides compared with petrol cars. As a comparison, petrol cars produce virtually no particulate matter, take longer to warm up, produce more carbon dioxide per mile on average, and emissions of the regulated pollutants are higher.

Cleaner Petrol and Diesel

A method of pollution reduction currently being utilised involves the use of cleaner petrol and diesel. It is cheaper to improve conventional fuels than to use many of the alternatives and no investment is needed for new storage tanks and service stations. Ultra low sulphur petrol is now widely available in the UK.

Alternative Fuels

To replace pollutant fuels (petrol and diesel), alternative fuels are currently being developed. Those put forward as alternatives to petrol and conventional diesel include: compressed natural gas (CNG); liquefied petroleum gas (LPG); city diesel; hydrogen; alcohol fuels; and battery operated vehicles.

LPG & CNG

On a cycle representing congested urban traffic, both LPG and CNG outperform petrol powered vehicles on emissions of carbon monoxide (CO). Indeed, emissions of CO from CNG powered vehicles are of the same order as those emitted by diesel vehicles. However, emissions of total hydrocarbons (THC) from CNG vehicles are relatively high because of methane, the major component of natural gas. Although methane is a small contributor to the formation of low level ozone it is a major factor in global warming. Emissions of NOx and particulates from both LPG and CNG powered vehicles are significantly lower than those from diesel vehicles. Moreover, emissions of NOx from CNG vehicles are half those from equivalent petrol engined vehicles. A recent study using a small delivery van fitted with a three way catalyst and capable of switching between CNG and petrol, showed that on a modified EU emission test cycle, emissions of CO, non-methane hydrocarbons (NMHC) and NOx were 76%, 88% and 83% respectively lower with CNG than with petrol. Using data from other studies CNG also compares favourably with emissions from equivalent sized diesel-engined vehicles.

City Diesel

City diesel is a petroleum based lower emission diesel developed in Sweden but now available in many European Countries including the UK. Exhaust emissions from vehicles fuelled with city diesel compare favourably with exhaust emissions from equivalent vehicles fuelled with conventional diesel. The main benefit of city diesel is that its combustion reduces particulate emissions by 34 - 84% depending on engine type, duty cycle, test basis and type of particulate measured. An additional benefit of city diesel is that it is a low sulphur fuel, which is necessary for the optimum running of oxidation catalytic converters.

Conclusion

To produce a cleaner environment for all to live and work in, the development of alternative, cleaner fuels is essential. To encourage the use of the fuels, competitive prices combined with good marketing techniques are required.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: kendall
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 07:40 AM

As I understand it, the British government has jacked the price of diesel up above petrol to discourage people from buying diesel vehicles. They are dirty, and they pollute the air much worse than petrol burners.
They also collect more taxes on the higher priced fuel.I guess that helps to pay for the lung problems that the diesel fuel creates. Someone has to pay for that "free" national health care you enjoy. :-)

In my part of the world, there are scores of fuel stations all competing for my money, so a quick check on the computer will tell me where the lowest fuel price is to be found, and that's where I go.
Price fixing is illegal here, so they either compete or go under.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: GUEST,Dáithí
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 06:35 AM

Still paying 49.9p per litre for LPG (Autogas)here in Lincolnshire. Loving it!!

If you're doing any sort of serious mileage, it's got to make sense...

D

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Cool Beans
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 10:39 PM

Filled up for $1.54 a gallon Nov. 25 at a Marathon station in Royal Oak, Mich. Most places, though, it's around $1.65.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 09:04 AM

Until recently the $12 gallon - diesel - was nothing unusual. Can anyone explain why, in the UK, diesel is about 15 pence the litre dearer than unleaded petrol ?

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: PoppaGator
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 09:04 AM

Lowest price I've seen in New Orleans so far is $1.59. I filled up on Monday for $1.66, lowest available that day; it's been falling every day.

We normally have prices a few cents below the national average.

The very lowest prices can be found in Baytown TX at I-10 Exit 789. We've made quite a few trips between New Orleans and Austin TX over the past couple of years, and the four large truck-stop/gas-stations at that interchange have always offered the very lowest prices along the route or anywhere in the region, generally at least 10 cents below the best New Orleans prices. If that's holding true today, they might be down to a buck-and-a-half or a little less at 789.

Baytown is just east of Houston and home to gigantic refineries; I'm guessing that the proximity to the source is part of the explanation for low gas prices there, and the easily-remembered exit number (7-8-9) might have something to do with why that one particular spot offers the lowest of low prices.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Naemanson
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 08:29 AM

Here on Guam the price is down to about $3.50 and diesel just dropped to under $4.00! Life is good here! (Sarcasm alert!)

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Stu
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 07:13 AM

"We still pay through the nose"

No you don't. In the UK we pay through the nose, you get cheap fuel.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: LilyFestre
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 06:46 AM

Finally, in northern Pennsylvania finally hit under $2.00 per gallon coming in at $1.99/gallon. WOO HOOO!!

Michelle

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Monique
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 05:54 AM

Here (France) it's between €1.10 and €1.30 a litre (or even more in some places, depending on where you live and where you buy it) = between $5.42 and 6.41 a gallon with 1€=$1.30

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Arkie
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 10:17 PM

In Mountain View, Arkansas where gas is higher than anywhere else in the state according to a Little Rock television station map the lowest price in town as of this evening is $1.639.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Ebbie
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 06:19 PM

"Try 2.55 at our local gas station. Western NY is the highest in the nation." OldDude

The last I knew, OD, Alaska was still in the nation. In Juneau we are still paying more than 3.00 per gallon. In some of the villages in Alaska they are still paying more than $10.00 (no typo) per gallon.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: olddude
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 06:03 PM

Try 2.55 at our local gas station. Western NY is the highest in the nation. The attorney general is looking into why. Price gouging I think. They say it is because of the trucking up here that we are far away from the refineries. Guess what PA is an hour away Warren PA, has united refinery ... make sense? not to anyone around here. We still pay through the nose

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 06:00 PM

I want to see prices of $5/gal and up.

Move to Britain. This recent slump in prices has brought petrol down to around 90p a litre, i.e. $6.16/US gal.

For other Brits' benefit, the $2 that's been quoted upthread works out at 29p a litre. Remember when that was how much it cost? No, me neither (although I can remember my Dad filling up at 6/8d per gallon, so the price must have passed through the 29p/litre mark some time in between).

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 05:58 PM

Have you thought about secession? ;-)

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Eric the Viking
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 05:43 PM

Orkney continues to be at the heart of "rip off" Britain in terms of fuel prices.With a litre of deisel at £115.9 (It's come down from the £1.40/litre of the summer)With prices higher on the smaller islands we have no choice.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Becca72
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 11:20 AM

The same station that was $1.88 last Saturday was down to $1.75 two days later...Sorry, Peter. :-) Hell, lobster is $3.99/lb right now!

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Midchuck
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 11:10 AM

Pump prices in Rutland, VT, finally dropped to $1.99 as of this morning.

But I got it in Portland, ME, a week and a half ago for $1.98.

I hate to see Maine ahead of us in anything. It gives Kendall a big head.

Peter

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Teribus
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 11:07 AM

"Here in W. Ireland, I'm paying €1.10 a litre (about €5 a gallon = about $2)" Jim Martin

Eh! No Jim 5 euros = $6.49.

And the "obscene" profit on the European side of the pond normally goes to the Government in the shape of tax. Additionally just because the price of crude oil per barrel drops today, that does not reflect the price paid for the refined oil that you are pouring into your car at the pump that could have bought at $147 per barrel depending on where you are.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Janie
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 10:40 AM

Big price drop this morning from $1.87 to $1.74 in central NC.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: GUEST,leeneia
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 10:11 AM

Got some yesterday at $1.51 US. That was at a BP station.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: GUEST,roj
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 01:09 AM

I've just done the sums. Petrol costs $5.17 per US gallon today. A 50 mile daily commute is not uncommon in the UK. But 70-odd per cent of that is tax, and the government needs the cash so much more than we do.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Mark Ross
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 12:34 AM

$1.99 is the lowest I've seen this week here in Eugene, Oregon.


Mark Ross

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 12:23 AM

Fort Worth, Texas; Rufe Snow near I820; Race Trac $1.60 @ gallon.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: GUEST,Jaze
Date: 24 Nov 08 - 11:08 PM

$1.69 In Richmond Va on 11/24

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 24 Nov 08 - 11:03 PM

Lower still now. 75.9 cents a litre in Ontario.

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Rowan
Date: 24 Nov 08 - 11:01 PM

A month ago, here in the Oz New England, it was $1.45 (Aus) per litre ($5.80 per US gallon); it's now come down to $1.22 per litre ($4.88 per US gallon. And, even being careful and limiting the extent (~400km) and style (gentle) of my driving I still get through about 45 litres/week in the Subaru; another 7000km and it will have clocked up the half million.

Cheers, Rowan

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 24 Nov 08 - 10:02 PM

Here in W. Ireland, I'm paying €1.10 a litre (about €5 a gallon = about $2) It's a bloody scandal, when oil reached its peak in July, $150 a barrel, we were paying €1.30 a litre so, by that token, as oil's now $50 a barrel, we should only now be paying €0.43 a litre. Somebody/s making an obscene profit in these troubled times!!!!!!

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: Sorcha
Date: 24 Nov 08 - 07:53 PM

$1.72 today. $20 to fill my tank. OK!

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: annamill
Date: 24 Nov 08 - 07:34 PM

Here in San Diego CA, it's about $1.99. While refueling yesterday I met a man who had just bought a Hybrid auto. With a big smile, I laughingly asked him if he was mad that he had spent all that money to buy a Hybrid. He snarled and said "NO!" He didn't smile back. Californians have no sense of humor.

Love, Annamill (TeeHee)

Subject: RE: BS: What is Your Current Price of Gasoline?
From: GUEST,MarkS (on the road)
Date: 24 Nov 08 - 07:33 PM

Just paid $ 1.659 here in Southern New Jersey. And that is with the station person pumping it. You are not allowed self service in New Jersey.
Mark