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Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film

GUEST,dulcimerjohn 25 Nov 08 - 09:04 AM
johnadams 25 Nov 08 - 09:12 AM
Geoff the Duck 26 Nov 08 - 04:12 AM
Liz the Squeak 26 Nov 08 - 06:18 AM
Big Al Whittle 26 Nov 08 - 06:42 AM
GUEST,dulcimerjohn 26 Nov 08 - 10:04 AM
Tradsinger 26 Nov 08 - 01:05 PM
Teribus 27 Nov 08 - 08:30 AM
Big Al Whittle 27 Nov 08 - 08:51 AM
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Subject: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: GUEST,dulcimerjohn
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 09:04 AM

Hey folks in the UK, we've started work on the independant film about John 'Babbacombe' Lee. Any help on 'consulting' regarding authenticity would be greatly appreciated. We've done some good homework but would love to speak with interested folks over the pond. Thanks, Dulcimerjohn


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Subject: RE: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: johnadams
Date: 25 Nov 08 - 09:12 AM

Coincidence! I played a track from the John Babbacombe Lee album by Fairport Convention on my radio show yesterday. I don't normally like 'concept' albums but that's one I make an exception for.

Sorry I can't help with the research but I look forward to seeing the film escape in due course. It's an odd story.


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Subject: RE: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: Geoff the Duck
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 04:12 AM

I would think that just being interested in Authenticity is a good starting point. Most film makers don't bother...

What help there is on Mudcat might depend on what it is you want to be authentic. There are a number of 'catters interested in dating verifiable dates and printed sources for tunes, lyrics and songs (people singing a song in a period piece, many years before it was written, is often a big gaffe in films).
A quick web search tells me that the murder took place in 1885 and there are photographs of Lee himself and of the house, plus copies taken from contemporary newspapers (www.ianwaugh.com/murderresearch .
The time frame for the events ought to be well documented, but it may be that mudcatters who live in or around Devon may be able to add local colour and background to the area.
It sounds like a worthwhile project.
Quack!
GtD.


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Subject: RE: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 06:18 AM

I'd try the Local Studies or Local History section of the Devon County Council libraries and museums. They're going to be the 'on the spot reporter' as it were and are bound to have something.

Try Googling 'Devon County Council' and see what contacts you come up with.

Good luck.

LTS


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Subject: RE: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 06:42 AM

I used to walk past exeter prison where it all happened,
every day on the way to college,

georgian Silver was a cop in Exeter at one time. he may have some thoughts.


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Subject: RE: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: GUEST,dulcimerjohn
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 10:04 AM

Appreciate the responses..we had our 2nd meeting of the film crew last night-lots of good brainstorming. We are energized about the project and even though most are non-actors we are starting to have some key production folks sign on. Swarb has given us permission to do stuff from the record of which we plan to do 'Sailors Song' as a period piece being played in the background at the 'Cary Arms' and 'Dream' as a thematic piece(with trippy dreamlike visuals). Proper English accents are gonna be tough..but we're gonna try (perhaps with some voice-overs). Will look into the leads you guys graciously provided. Drop Away..John


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Subject: RE: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: Tradsinger
Date: 26 Nov 08 - 01:05 PM

What do you mean, English accents? We English don't have accents.

Seriously, when I was collecting songs in Hampshire in the early 70s, I was given a handwritten ballad of the Death of John Lee. Also, Peter Kennedy collected a different version in Devon. So far as I know, these are the only 2 versions in the tradition. Is this information of any use to you?

Tradsinger


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Subject: RE: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: Teribus
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 08:30 AM

Great story, absolutely crap album


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Subject: RE: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 08:51 AM

Know what you mean Teribus - I was never a great fan of the album. But the TV show about it at the time with Carthy and a hangman, was quite entertaining.

I see what you mean about the English accent. perhaps you should go for realism rather than naturalism.

All the working class people perhaps sounding Dick van Dyke in Mary Poppins. All the posh people like the bloke with a top hat in the wacky races.

After all its a comedy of manners. It requires a degree of politeness to stand there and let someone try and hang you, three times.


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Subject: RE: Brit help with Babbacombe Lee film
From: GUEST,dulcimerjohn
Date: 27 Nov 08 - 10:00 AM

Busy with fam stuff later today..happy thanksgiving by the way(assuming Brits celebrate). Excited to be doing this film, it's been a long time coming. I'm a longtime britcom fan so think I have the inflections down pretty good, we'll see about other cast members. I'm envisioning it being fairly visually interesting(Terry Gilliam is my fav director) with strange angles, low-tech effects and projections. I realize Brits would probably be the harshest critics re accents/authenticity, I hope to not dissappoint on either score too badly. Many of us are neophytes at this but we are having some key prduction/musical/consulting help. I'd like to do this extraordinary story justice. Thanks again, John


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