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Subject: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 04:58 PM

I was tempted to put this under folklore.
Two weeks ago I started getting a sore throat. Then I got one along with an infection that has gone into first my eyes and sinuses, then ears, back to sinuses...you get the picture. I have had one round of antibiotics which has eliminated all but the sore throat and the ear infection.
This is a nightmare. green and yellow stuff from every orifice. Eyes glued shut with it. Cough Cough Cough. Fever. Infected throat - very colorful and nasty.

Anyone else enjoying this particular strain? I had a flu and pneumonis shot. I take my vitamins.

WHIIIIIIINNNNNNE
SINS the Miserable


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:04 PM

MAry, me darlin', I have a bunch of left over Amoxicillin, still fresh, I picked up on a dental journey down to Mexico last week, and it can be yours for the asking.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: ard mhacha
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:05 PM

I had the same last year despite the `flu injection, my only relief, Garlic, there is nothing to beat it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Bobert
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:06 PM

Estragelous and elderberry extract an' you be fine in ni time, Sins...

You really go green goo comin' outta yer ears??? Cool... Can I get a piccure of that???

Bus seriously, I'm sorry you are sick... Sick sucks... I got me a little sore throat myself but I'm hittin' the above cure purdy hard an' it'll be all gone in two days...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:50 PM

Antibiotics will not treat a viral or fungal infection. For what antibiotics will treat - amoxycillin is good. I had chronic otitus media and otitus externa as a child, and my ears remain susceptible to infection, 55 years on. I've tried them all. I have also found that for linked dental/ear infections metronidazole is good but do NOT drink alcohol with it - it is chemically related to antabuse and a bad reaction can kill you.

Do NOT settle for a 5 day course. Re-infection is much more likely. Do a 7 or 10 day course (and double the very first dose to get a kick-start) and FINISH THE COURSE.

Ear pain can be absolutely deadly. If you can get Diconal, it will relieve it and it is safe in high doses, but it can be addictive and it has a high street value. It is very hard to get. Do not drive while taking it. Trust me on this.

I am not a doctor, but I have paid my dues when it comes to ear infections (and, indeed, teeth).


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Sorcha
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 05:56 PM

Unless you're allergic to penicillin. Amoxy is NOT good for me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: LilyFestre
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:01 PM

How long ago did you have your flu shot? My mom had a very similar experience about a week after she got her flu shot...Dr. told her she had to ride it out. She found some relief with the vaporizer, heating pad, soup and lots of rest.

Feel Better soon.

Michelle


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Barry Finn
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:01 PM

Mary, if you eat 3 lobster's a day, big lobsters, not those 2 pounders either, for 7 days straight (you don't have to eat them in 1 sitting), you won't have to worry about your throat, eyes, ears or sinuses anymore & you'll be able to keep the costs under $100. Are lobsters still just under $4 a pound? Before starting on this endevor make dam sure the plumbing's in good condition.
Good luck & all my best & sorry you're in such misery

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:02 PM

The flu shot last year was a bad deal.
Having worked in the program when I was in the Air Force, it's SUPPOSED to work like this:
'Sentinal' clinics test people with flu-like symptoms including a fever of 101°F or higher.
The samples are sent to the CDC who figure out what strains, what antigen shifts and drifts are going around.
They develop the next year's vaccine based on that.
Last year, they got it wrong and we got nailed with a flu virus that we didn't expect. (They maybe should've named it the 'Spanish Inquisition Flu'?)

Even when the predictions work, there are other types of flu out there. Mary, you sound like you got nailed with one of them. Incidentally, the flu shot doesn't work immediately, so you could be incubating the flu and come down with it before the shot gets your antibodies up to effective levels.

I'm lucky so far. I haven't had the flu since I was a kid. It helps not to hang around with people who have multi-colored snot dripping from various orifices. Yeah, and I was up there two weeks ago! Hope you didn't give Gordon the nasal clap crap!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Janie
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:08 PM

Virtual bowls of chicken soup and fluffing of pillows on the way.

((((((((hug))))))))))))

Janie


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:21 PM

Mary, seriously, chicken soup is good. Drinking lots of fluids of the water and juice variety is good. Staying cozy in bed with cats is good. Take care of yourself.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:24 PM

Seriously, both Chicken soup and Disprin have been found to have some antiviral effects!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: gnu
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:26 PM

Gargle with salt water. Snort salt water. Every 15 minutes.

Do all the things everyone said above and below.

Stay away from me.

That's the best advice I can give.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 06:43 PM

Get a quart of the cheapest whiskey you can find, something at the US $2.00 per liter is best.

Dissolve in it an entire package of Menthol-Ecalyptus cough drops (Hall's is one such brand).

Promise yourself that if you don't get well by __________ you will have to drink the mixture.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 07:16 PM

hALL'S, CHICKEN SOUP, SALT WATER GARGLE, rOBITUSSIN, sOME OTHER CRAP, ANTIBIOTICS, INHALER, tea with honey, more tea with honey, more chicken soup, whiiiine

Shots were several weeks ago - no elation. Office was 80 degrees plus for several days - I blame that. A festering pool of recycled air.

Yes, Bobert,,,green ear goo. I will send you some. SIGH


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Barry Finn
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 07:18 PM

Mary, you don't have to listen to all their crap, do the lobsters, for christsakes, you're in Maine! Dam downeasters, they won't give away any of their secrets, bastards. They want it all for themselves. Next thing you'll be hearing about is chicken soup. How far's the nearest chicken farmer an' how far's the nearest lobsterfolk? See! Many of the folk believe that for medical finds, all you need to do is use what's closest to you, nature will provide what's needed. I'd advise you to cook the lobster in a hole in the ground, line it with hot rocks, once you have the hole lined with the hot rocks toss on the lobsters & then cover them over with fresh, still damp seaweed. The heat from the rocks coming in contact with the moist seaweed will cause the lobster to steam cook. Don't let this valuable steam go to waste, sniff it, really, sniff it like it's the last bit of fresh air you're ever gonna sniff. EVen better if you can get a blanket & cover yourself in a way that you yourself are getting a bit steamed too. The native indians swore by this treatment! That's why they cooked lobsters inside their teepees, they went for the natural thing whole hog. No, I didn't mean you should invite a hog, whole or not under the blanket with you. As for those chickenshits who'd advise you otherwise let them make soup when they're sick, you do lobsta. If after a couple of these treatments you're feeling better you might want to, for faster relief, try adding to on or onto, the sides of the lobsters some fresh clams (DEAD ONES are no good) & some fresh ears of local corn (Indian corn is the best) & try drinking some 'woad', don't do applecider, espically if it's aged. Hey. the pilgrams survived & knew that the Indians weren't nobody's fool. So follow tradition don't be a New Yorker all your life, sniff, become a downeaster, what's Kendall do when he gets under the weather? See, he stays sick doesn't he, he doesn't do this, probably drinks chicken soup, chicken shit. I'm giving you the best advise available, I know this because I have survived much worst & lobster is the only natural thing on earth that'll see you through, Amen, sorry aMan.

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 07:30 PM

Lobsters disgust me, Barry.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 08:11 PM

Trust a pissed off broad to puncture a whole chapter of exuberance with one well-aimed sentence.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Barry Finn
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 08:12 PM

So does codliveroil, just hold on to your nose with 2 fingers or a thumb & 1 finger, I don't really care how you hold on to your nose, just do it & swallow, Ha,Ha,Ha, you know how to do that, don't you? As Bogey said to Bacall, wait wasn't that whistle, sorry swallow anyway? Anyway, you can't get to be a true down-easter, Easter? Did someone say Easter? Sorry You can't become a downeaster if you don't learn to do a lobster, actually that'll even disqualify you from ever even becoming a true New Englander, eating lobster is a must do type of hing, if you don't you'll never ajust to the climate that the rest of us were born into & you'll get sick all the time. A lobster a day'll keep the sniffles away,,,. Clam up & gulp it down, be brave, be a real woman, be a New Englander, be a Downeaster, be a real Mainy-e-ax, you want ta wine, go light some candles & put on some soft music, you want to be cured go do a lobster, "shuck an' swallow" (kinda like 'rock & roll') a raw oyster & shove a pearl up ya nose, lay down in a stream of steamin seaweed & pull the blanket over ya face & squeeze the eyes out of an octupus' head & snort the black ink & you'll feel 100% better. You'll also get into the Guiness world record book as an aside & 100's of forelorn lobster/fishermen with accordians & banjo's will be trolling for ya. At least you be rid of the sniffles.

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 08:33 PM

There's also the power of Portland Rum.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 09:07 PM

Mary - why do you do a lobster bake each year if you despise the little dears.....?????


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 09:59 PM

If you're having problems with the little deers, ask Bobert to come pay a visit. He is the best Bambi cure-all known to man or beast.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: kendall
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 10:11 PM

It sounds like that little bastard that put me in the hospital last year at this time.

Mary, that Lobster thing Barry mentioned is good to a point, but he forgot to tell you it works best when a special friend eats the lobster while you watch.
Do you know anyone who loves lobster?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Nov 08 - 10:23 PM

I suggest you send the lobsters to me in Ohio where they are NOT 4 bucks a pound! Send me all the clams and sea scallops you can for that price as well. I'll eat the entire mess myself til I get iodine poisoning. I dunno' if this will help YOU but send me all the shellfish you can get a that price and I assure you it will do someone some good.......................to start with....me!

I'll send you 50 lbs of venison!

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Little Hawk
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 12:02 AM

Didn't Stephen King do a story about this ailment?

I would also recommend garlic...fresh, raw garlic buds. If you mix some pieces of it into some food and eat some parsley afterwards, it's really not that bad.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 12:12 AM

Send Hawk some garlic and get the shellfish coming my way. You'll feel better in no time.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 12:14 AM

Neti pot.

From your description there may not be much room at first for water to flow through your sinuses, but if you are tempted by the offer of something that does actually work, a pot full of well-salted warm water in one sinus and out the other (over a sink and breathe through your mouth) is a great way to wash crud out of there. Just be sure you have plenty of salt in the water. (Ask me how I know. . . )

Don't let anyone suggest you can run it in one ear and out the other to clear out ear snot. (I've never even heard of that, let alone seen it, and won't offer any suggestions.) But the sinuses can be soothed with the good ol' neti pot. And eat chicken soup. Drink hot herbal tea. And there is a Celestial Seasonings tea called "Throat Soother" (they may have changed the name, but it was that brand) that had stuff like slippery elm bark and it really does help the sore throat.

Get well soon!

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Megan L
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 04:22 AM

They are all wrong what you need is a big bottle of syrup of figs, drink it all at one sitting then you will be to feert tae cough or blow yer nose :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 05:23 AM

This thread not giving me much hope. Developed a cold 2 and half weeks ago. Thought I was getting well this Friday past.

Then 2am Saturday it came back with vengence. Fever (highest)102.4 and convulsive chills and then sweats and then chills again. Been dry heaving since Saturday, because sinus, throat and lungs feel furred up with phlegm and coughing does not dispel it. What little I get up is only clear, frothy, so not infected yet. Panting like a dog, short of breath, severe head and neck ache. Chest muscles and rib cage tired from the coughing and dry heaves, throat raw as well.

GP has cancelled my flu jab twice because I am too unwell to have it. Won't give me antibiotic because 1)there is no sign of infection so it must be viral and 2) if it does eventually go nuclear I am allergic to every - flipping - thing.

My immune system has been zotzed by couple of years chemo for Rheumatoid Arthritis. Think I am in serious trouble here. Going to GP tonight, but s/he notorioulsy reluctant to prescribe anything because of my allergies. I lost my list of meds I am allegic to as well. Now must reconstruct the list from memory at a time when my brain is clearly not funcitoning well.

Let's see can't have any cillins and cephalosporins, aspirin, ibuprofen, sulfa drugs, some decongestants.


Is there a doctor in da house? Think I will start eating the raw onions again. Actually helped a lot at the beginning of the cold.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Bat Goddess
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 08:40 AM

Garlic.

I'm allergic to penicillin and a LOT of antibiotics, and garlic supplements (back in those days I could get garlic & parsley tabs reasonably cheap -- I took 13 a day and heavied up when I really needed it) have pulled me out of bronchitis and some other nasty infections.

Add more garlic to the chicken soup.

Garlic is good.

Linn


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 08:43 AM

Did Amos really call me "a pissed off broad"?

The man lives dangerously...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 08:47 AM

Barry - Mary's in enough of a shitty mood right now without forcing lobster down her throat. Trust me, you think she's bad before morning coffee? That would be mild compared to her mood if she had to sniff lobster steam and then eat the little darlings and we live within a ten mile radius, which means that we would get the fallout, as would the rest of the Greater Portland area.

She's finally going to the doctor's today to have a strep test and, hopefully, get some further treatment to help her recover. If necessary I'll cook up some real chicken soup, not the stuff in the cans, and take that round to her to see if that helps. It generally seems to help Kendall and me when we get knocked down by the dreaded lurgy.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 08:49 AM

SSS - Thank you for the neti pot idea. I planned to get one a month or two back then didn't. I wish I had one this past week.

Virginia Tam - Yuk.I am allergic o penicillen but can tolerate almost everything else. Fluids. Rest. And a doctor.

Linn - I simply can not handle garlic. It makes me sick.Small amounts in something like pesto (Jeri's pesto) are fine. Cloves of it gag me and sicken me for 24 hours. Gross.

Doctor will see me tomorrow morning. She refused to renew the prescription without seeing me. Fair enough. My throat and ear are still infected.

Gentlemen - thank you for all your "advice". Barry - you are in trouble.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: kendall
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 08:56 AM

Does anyone remember The Life of Riley, with Wm. Bendix?
He had a friend named "Digger" O'Dell, the friendly undertaker. He said, "I'll be the last to let you down, Riley"

Seriously, these bugs are getting stronger all the time. Too many anti biotics taken by people who stopped taking them too soon. All that does is allow the survivors to evolve.Now, they are immune to most anti biotics.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 09:05 AM

For the record - I HAVE NOT HAD A CUP OF COFFEE IN 11 DAYS. I am very CRANKY.

And my ear hurts and my throat hurts   WHIIIIIIINE.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 09:10 AM

Icing on the cake: I stopped to let a homeless man cross Fore Street. He got halfway across, came at my car snarling and as I drove by him (NYC instincts kicked in) he spit on my car - a big nasty thing that will have to be disinfected.

One of those times I am glad I did not have a gun.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 09:13 AM

Well, if your ear hurts don't listen so hard.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 09:29 AM

"Think I will start eating the raw onions again."

An apple a day keeps the doctor away;
an onion a day keeps everybody away!

:-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 09:51 AM

SOunds like Jacqui agrees with me, though...and I am sure were I in your condition I would be very pissed off. ANd you don't qualify for "narrow".


;>)

Love ya,


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 10:00 AM

Yeah......yeah.......yeah..........You feel like absolute shit and you're not getting better as fast as you once might have. You hate that part since it has to do with getting old which REALLY pisses you even more........You're sick and tired of being sick and tired and all that stuff etc., etc., etc.   All of it just gets down to one thing............Are the lobsters on their way yet?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: maeve
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 10:14 AM

Mary dear- If you can eat onions, they're a close second to garlic in benefits. Jacqui's chicken soup is a good idea. The neti pot too. They're not very expensive. You need me to bring you one with ribbon on top?

You are loved, cranky or sick or wailing pitiously. Even all three at the same time.

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Megan L
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 10:33 AM

Mary here is the real reason for your feelings just change the country :)

I'm TIRED

Yes I'm tired.

For some time now I've been blaming it on advancing age, poor blood, lack of vitamins, air pollution, the ozone hole, saccharin, obesity, dieting, foot odour, yellow wax build-up in the ear, the after effects of ever-lengthening long hikes, and other maladies that make one wonder if life is really worth living.

But I found out that it ain't any of the above.

I'm tired because I'm overworked!

The population of the country (Ireland) is 4 million.
1 million are retired.
That leaves 3 million to do 'the work'.
There are 1 million are too young, or in school and college.
That leaves 2 million to do 'the work'.
750,000 are unemployed or staying at home, and 250,000 are directly employed by the government.
That leaves 1 million to do 'the work'.
200,000 are in the armed or security forces, 200,000 are employed by County Councils, leaving 600,000 to do 'the work'.
There are 420,000 people in hospitals, and 179,000 in prison.

That leaves 2 people to do 'the work'.

You and me!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Alice
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 10:35 AM

I've had recurring eye infection since last winter. This time I not only got the antibiotic eyedrops, I've been following advice I found re demodex living in the eyelashes and tea tree oil to kill them. You have to be careful about diluting the tea tree oil enough to not burn the eyes. I added few drops to a jar of eye makeup remover pads and use that to scrub eyelids and eyebrows before bedtime. I use stronger tea tree oil on cotton on the rest of the face. It seems to be helping.


http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1772908


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 01:46 PM

Thanks for the advice Sinsull. Hope you get relief soon. GP prescribed doxycycline and an asthma inhaler. I will have to learn how to use it.

Expecting stomach pain, nausea and vomiting with the doxcycline as tetracycline and erythromicin always tear up the tummy. Gonna be a fun few days.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: kendall
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 01:57 PM

Sins, that homeless guy was probably trying to provoke an altercation so he can get locked up for the winter.
Then again, maybe he was just crazy.Not knowing where I was going to sleep would do that to me.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 02:36 PM

If he hadn't spit at me he could have slept at my house. Now I am tempted to invite him and suggest that he let Alice sleep with him. I am feeling better.

But i am still keeping a list. Some of you are in deep trouble.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Megan L
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 02:40 PM

some of us are quite safe unless you ever get to a McMudgather :)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 02:42 PM

Look, you can send the homeless asshole to me.....I'll take him. Just have him bring about 25 or 30 pounds of lobster with him. Other shellfish are acceptable as well as squid, sea bass............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 02:56 PM

well he might bring loads of crabs.... not the nice kind.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 03:18 PM

The homeless guy was just being silly--he had no business staying so far North this time of year and he feelt guilty. By rights he shoulda been in Miami a month ago.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 03:42 PM

By rights he should have been in San Diego with the rest of the Marines.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: paula t
Date: 01 Dec 08 - 04:29 PM

I always find that a few hefty mugs of hot blackcurrant(Ribena type squash) with whiskey usually helps. Soothes the throat and makes you forget you are ill ......
Or...
Hot rum and Horlicks.Probably does no good at all but it cheers you up!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: PoppaGator
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 04:57 AM

If lobsters are too disgusting, just boil up a sack of their little cousins, the crawfish.

Be sure to throw plenty of whole garlic cloves and little round potatoes into the pot, and of course a healthy dose of hot sauce (cayenne pepper).

When the mudbugs are fully cooked, dump in a few pounds of frozen corn-on-the-cob to bring the temperature down quickly. Once the heat-exchange has stabilized, the corn will be nicely done ~ crisp, not boiled down to a soggy mess (which is what happens if you include the corn too early, along with the garlic and taters).

Of course, this kind of crawfish boil is feasible only in season (springtime) and ideally only is south Louisiana. I sure hope you're over your illness by then!

For now, the garlic and cayenne, without shellfish, will have to suffice.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 05:03 AM

I am now on doxycyclin... disgusting nausea and horrid stomach pain, as if I am not uncomfortable enough. Learning how to use an inhaler. Don't think I am doing it right. Infection now in my ears.

The worst bit about this thing is I have missed 2 sing around sessions and about to miss another this week. It SUCKS!

Folk withdrawal on top of everything else.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 06:51 AM

So Poppa.......Are you a traditionalist who sucks the head? Never did it myself but to each his own............But that's really disgusting.................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 07:03 AM

Yeah Tam, the ear part is interesting. My left ear is blocked so I hear only out of the right. This means that noise from my left registers on the right. Very confusing.

Spaw and Poppa - I hate you. I wish morning sickness on both of you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 07:54 AM

everyhting sounds like it is coming at me tin cans


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: ranger1
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 09:32 AM

Ick! Get well soon!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 10:30 AM

wazzat? say again please?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 11:03 AM

Doctor says bacterial not strep. Lots of meds; lots of rest; lots of infection.

Hey Spaw and Amos - come on over and let me cough on you.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 11:32 AM

Sure thing, Sins--start saving up for the ticket. There's no such thing as a free coughee, ya know.

Or you could just hunt down that homeless guy and spit into his mouth.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: kendall
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 11:39 AM

Geez, I feel like a malingerer listening to Sinsull!
I got the word from the witch doctor today, type 2


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 11:49 AM

That's good news Kendall. Now go take Seamus for a walk.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 12:07 PM

Yeah Kendall.......And while you're out, why not get those lobsters on the FedEx truck?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Little Hawk
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 12:36 PM

They've quit on the lobsters. Too expensive. They're marketing Weimaraner steaks instead now. Very tasty and dirt cheap!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Becca72
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 01:06 PM

Tam, re the inhaler:

Exhale as much as you possibly can. While you are inhaling (through your mouth, obviously) hit the trigger...hold your breath a couple seconds. If you are supposed to take "two puffs" do them one at a time just as above.


Becca72,
Asthmatic since '74. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 01:58 PM

My left ear is blocked so I hear only out of the right. This means that noise from my left registers on the right. Very confusing.

Hey Sinsull I'm over here, behind you, no on your left... no the other left.

snerk

Thanks Becca72, Guess I am doing it correct then.   Thing is, some of the mist ends up on my tongue... nasty.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Becca72
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 02:22 PM

Sometimes it will, unfortunately...tastes like hell, don't it? :-) You can try to angle the mouthpiece up a bit to minimize that.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Liz the Squeak
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 05:46 PM

I have suddenly acquired a gluey ear... it was fine until I got to choir practice when suddenly it gummed up and I couldn't hear.

It wasn't so bad, I sit on the end with my deaf ear outwards, but it was the intermittent tinnitus that rang in Bb when I was trying to sing in G... not good.

Oddly enough, it cleared as soon as I left rehearsal!

LTS


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Donuel
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 05:47 PM

correction:
Do not eat bowels of chicken soup. Try a bowl of Chicken noodle instead.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: gnu
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 06:12 PM

Youse are sick.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 06:24 PM

If you want, you can direct the inhaler via a toilet paper roll (the core, not the whole thing). Exhale as completely as possible, put one end of the roll in your mouth and put the inhaler in the other end. Trigger the inhaler (push down on the ones I have) and at the same time inhale for a count of 6 done at medium speed. Hold your breath for another 6 count, and exhale for a 6 count.

You might also be able to get a cardboard tube from the doctor.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: kendall
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 08:23 PM

Spaw, the shipping would cost more than the lobsters. Come to Maine and I will treat you to a Lobster feed.

Did I ever give you my Lazy man's lobster recipe?

Take half a dozen eggs, break them into a skillet.
Put a Lobster in the skillet among the eggs.
Put skillet on the stove,cover it, turn the heat up,
Lobster scrambles the eggs.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 02 Dec 08 - 09:46 PM

Kendall, you come out here to Idaho and I'll treat YOU to a genuine freshwater lobster feed. Not many people know that there is a species of freshwater lobster indigenous to Idaho and specifically to the Snake River. These lobsters (Homarus Americanus Idahoensis) have a somewhat sweeter taste than those found in the Atlantic which is probably due to the use of sugar beet residue as "green fertilizer" on Idaho farms and the subsequent runoff into the lobster-containing streams, rivers, and lakes. They have never been commercially fished, primarily because of the overwhelming popularity of saltwater lobster.

But I can tell you, an Idaho lobster bake with these lobsters, corn on the cob, fresh butter, some Salmon River oysters and clams, and all washed down with Moose Drool or Midnight Satin beer -- dang, THAT'S some fine eatin'!!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 06:02 AM

God Rapaire You make my mouth water.

Reminds me of annual family 4th of July fish fry on the Chickahominy River. Crabs, flounder, trout, bass and grilled hotdogs and hamburgers and KFC chicken for the picky eaters. My Aunt Myrt or was it Uncle Perk used to make the best hushpuppies. Can't get cornmeal here in the UK.

I need some corn bread. Therapeutic corn bread. Sounds like a good name for a band.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 06:20 AM

If you want cornbread.......TRY THIS THREAD!

Also check the linked threads at the top of it. At Mudcat, only music edges out food as the favored subject.....barely.


Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 08:10 AM

HEY! REMEMBER ME???? I'm SICK!

The codeine was a huge disappointment but I only took a teaspoonful/ Then again they only gave nme two ounces. This is the same doctor who only gave me two Ambien. She must think I am a potential addict.

Meantime - a used toilet paper roll in your mouth????GAG!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: kendall
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 08:18 AM

Sorry about the thread drift. I thought a little humor might help, but I see that pity is more apt to. :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 08:36 AM

Ambien isn't addictive; it's on the "proscribed" list mostly because the FDA and DEA can't explain why it works. Have you considered that your doctor's is TOO conservative in treatment?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 08:36 AM

Too right about the toilet roll... e choli accident waiting to happen.

Sorry you are getting no relief Sinsull. What is it about the stinginess of doctors these days. Remember all the free pharmaceuticals they used to dispense? I think they sell them on ebay now.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 09:06 AM

Old Ambien was addictive and I would have loved to have a year's supply - psychedelic dreams and 10 hours deep sleep. Wonderful stuff.

F***in' infection is in my ear and it HURTS!
Thank you Kendall. Pity and a little cheese for my whine would be nice.
M


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Becca72
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 10:23 AM

You should go to my doctor....I'm constantly turning DOWN prescriptions for various things


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 10:37 AM

Cheese?   You want cheese? Karen and I are dieting and for some unknown reason used almost all of the the leftover turkey on faux Tex-Mex style recipes. The gawdamn Chimi-changas were excellent but all of it was filled with refried beans and the gas..............

Cheese? I've been cutting it for days..........

AS far as sympathy goes.......Out of every illness I've ever had, the worst pain was prior to back surgery but that was only slightly worse than a series of ear infections I had in my 20's. Seriously, I never would wish that on anyone. Okay? All better now? Where are the lobsters?

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: gnu
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 02:24 PM

Oh my, Mary! That is one of the nastiest pains know to humankind. I hope you can get it cleared up reeeeal soon.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 03:42 PM

Thank you, gnu.

Becca? How about some Ambien?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Becca72
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 04:07 PM

Going on 12/15 for my annual..you want I should fake sick? :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 04:13 PM

Sure.....Get her some serious drugs. I'd suggest the 4mg size Dilaudid. On your way home, ship me the lobtsers.

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 04:27 PM

Mary, stick your ear on a heating pad.

And while I'm here, I have to ask: WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PEOPLE DOING WITH YOUR TOILET ROLLS?!!??

(Seriously, you're supposed to use the tissue on your ass, not stick the cardboard roll in there! E. coli doesn't do 'dry'.)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 04:57 PM

Yeah, I know. I thought that nobody...well, you know...but I guess I was wrong.

It really IS a good way of directing an inhalant, sort of a legal bong. But not for people who use them...well....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Jeri
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 05:05 PM

Ya can't ever really know people, can you Rap?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Barry Finn
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 05:16 PM

Mary, I'm telling you, listen to the lobster, hear what it's got to say.
Put your ear right up close to it's little lips & listen to it say "EAT ME"! Then go throw the little bugger in the scalding water after it nips your nose. You may not like eating them but you'll surely like cooking them.
BTW, after it nips your nose your won't mind the pain in the ear.

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: ranger1
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 05:35 PM

Right, on our way out the door with oodles of home-made chicken soup. Both jacqui and Jason decided to make chicken soup for you, Mary. I'm just the delivery person.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: gnu
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 06:22 PM

Leave it on the step and ring the doorbell. I like Mother Mary, but no sense in catching anything, right?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 08:01 PM

I gratefully accepted the soup donations without offering anything in the line of hugs and kisses.
Yum. Maybe I will get sick more often.
Thank you guys.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Barry Finn
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 11:10 PM

MARY!!!!
Don't eat the chicken soup, it'll past through you like the wind over the ocean. If you can't do lobster try the next best thing, eat stewed bats. I know they're dying off everywhere but if you act fast you'll be able to trap a couple. You put them in a stew, just like an Irish stew but instead of rat meat you use bat meat. They're harded to trap than rats & smarter too so you can't just set out some cheese & put it on one of those spring things that breaks their necks. You got to set up a misqutos fly slam. You get about 2 dozen on the local buzzards & hang them by gluing them in a ball to the end of a light line of thin gauge wire, use lots of glue & set it up at dusk. When the bat striks the ball og glued misquotes & is stunned because it gets stopped in mid air you slam it with a bat. This is called the bat act. Well, dewing the thing drop it in the stew & there you go. Boil for 3 hrs & eat hot.
Best of luck, hope your ears have stopped ringing
Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 11:27 PM

Why not just boil down a possum? Ya' know, they're America's other yellow meat plus they have an ospenis (bony peter) so they come with their own toothpick! Cleigh will hate you for it but it has the same chance as the bats do..............

BTW, the lobsters can nip at my balls for all I care. Just send the damn things.............

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 11:49 PM

Sins - have you considered death as a strong alternative ...... rather that than the bat stew!!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 03 Dec 08 - 11:56 PM

IF you'll [promise to take a home video of live Maine lobsters nipping your scrawy balls, Spaw, I'll pay the damn freight myself. I want a copy though , with YouTube rights and all...


And I am sure it will cure anything the viriii can throw at Mary.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: catspaw49
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 04:31 AM

Now ain't this something..........I finally get a bite, so to speak, and the guy lives at the opposite end of the opposite coast............................

Spaw


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 07:48 AM

HMMMMM Catspaw acting out the Old She-Crab. That might be worth the cost of shipping lobsters or just flying out with a bushel of them.
Who's in?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 08:23 AM

Sounds good to me, but I'm not flying out on the same plane as you, you old bat,'cause I don't want to catch whatever it is you've got!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: bfdk
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 08:35 AM

Glad to hear you're doing well enough to contemplate going gallivanting across the country, Sins!

However, I'll stay at a safe distance for the time being, too..


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: jacqui.c
Date: 04 Dec 08 - 10:20 PM

Looks like the Old Bat may have passed it on to me when I gave her a lift home from work last week.

I'm off to the doctor's tomorrow to get checked out and on to antibiotics, if it is the same thing, before my trip to the UK next week.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: kendall
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 07:18 AM

One year ago tomorrow I went into the hospital with a very serious case of strep, and if I get it again, heads will roll.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 08:01 AM

I don't have strep - tested and clean.
I ams till deaf in one ear. And enjoying my codeine. Two teaspoonfuls did thetrick. Fell asleep at 8:30PM and slept through the night for the first time in weeks. Technicolor dreams - or dreams about technicolor condoms and thongs. Very funny. You had to be there...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 08:05 AM

Oh Jacqui - I hope not. Sore throat is the giveaway.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 08:15 AM

I knew I shouldn't have opened this thread... Now I got the green-goo, too... Man I feel terrible and I know that I caught it here...

B:~(


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 08:15 AM

Yesterday was end of week 4 with this mess. The Doxycyclin seems to be working, coughing less, sleeping more. Right ear still full. Evening time my kidneys hurt which makes me think UTI. What fun.

I think the worst has been I have been home from work all week and have not lifted one finger to housework. I have Mudcatted, Googled and practised mandolin. God the guilt.

Tsk tsk. A truckload of ironing awaits.

Ha ha!! I lie. The worse is I have missed 3 folk sessions in the last month. Sod the ironing.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 08:27 AM

I too have the kidney hurt and a blocked ear. It is really a problem at work where I have to see people's mouths to understand what they are saying. Hoping the antibiotics knock it all out of me. 11 days to go.

Reminder to all: Despite cajoling I did not attend a recent house concert or Thanksgiving dinner rather than risk infecting you.15 minutes in the car with Jacqui shouldn't have done it.



Kendall scares me - I need my head.

Bobert - is it coing out of your ears yet?


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Subject: Lyr Add: I Got it From Agnes
From: Jeri
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 08:43 AM

I had a nice dinner at Acorns last night, courtesy of Curbat Mudgeoness (thank you), but mainly I just wanted to state that I am not sick. I do not have sniffilis and I feel GREAT. WOOHOO!!! I truly hope you feel better soon so you can experience the toxic-snot-free existence and joyful nasal inhalation that I now do.



Somehow, this song never got added here (unless it's hiding somewhere). I found it with the Wayback Machine and plucked in its entirety (with some HTML editing) from here.

I Got It From Agnes (1952)

This song was written by Tom in 1952, and performed by him throughout the 1950's, but he never included it on an album because he considered it too risqué at the time. In 1980, he revised it for inclusion in the stage revue of his songs called Tomfoolery, and notes that, although the revision made it naughtier, it seems fairly innocent by today's standards. The lyrics given here are from the revised Tomfoolery version. A studio version of this song recorded in 1996 can be found on the album Songs & More Songs by Tom Lehrer, available from Rhino Records.

I love my friends, and they love me,
We're just as close as we can be.
And just because we really care,
Whatever we get, we share!

I got it from Agnes,
She got it from Jim.
We all agree it must have been
Louise who gave it to him.

She got it from Harry,
Who got it from Marie,
And everybody knows that Marie
Got it from me.

Giles got it from Daphne,
She got it from Joan,
Who picked it up in County Cork,
A-kissin' the Blarney Stone.

Pierre gave it to Sheila,
Who must have brought it there.
He got it from Francois and Jacques,
Haha, Lucky Pierre!

Max got it from Edith,
Who gets it every spring.
She got it from her Daddy,
Who just gives her everything.

She then gave it to Daniel,
Whose spaniel has it now.
Our dentist even got it,
And we're still wondering how.

Ah, but I got it from Agnes,
Or maybe it was Sue,
Or Millie or Billie or Gillie or Willie,
It doesn't matter who.

It might have been at the club,
Or at the pub, or in the loo,
And if you will be my friend,
Then I might...(Mind you, I said "might")...
Give it to you!

Notes

Lehrer Comments:  "I Got it From Agnes was written in 1952. Originally it was I Got it From Sally. I used to sing that in nightclubs, but I didn't put it on records because I didn't want to be identified with so-called 'party records' like those by Ruth Wallis, Rusty Warren, Redd Foxx. I didn't want to be in that bin. When Cameron Mackintosh asked if there was anything else in the trunk that they could use for Tomfoolery, I polished
it up, wrote a new verse, and made it more like a British music-hall song. Of course, that was all before anybody had heard of AIDS." --1996 Interview


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 11:45 AM

No, Sins... Not yet, anyway but if that green-goo comes outta my ears that would make it almost worth gettin' sick just to behold such a sight...

B~


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 12:22 PM

Now I am in BIG TROUBLE. Just spoke with Mrs. Morse and she is toxic. If Kendall gets this I will be banned to the cellar for a lifetime.


So sorry...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: kendall
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 01:51 PM

Leprosy, night and day you torture me,
There goes my eyeball right into my highball...

There goes my fingernail right into my ginger ale...

Hear the song of a sailor, 'tis an old song, learned at sea.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 02:06 PM

Any tips for stopping the dry heaves in their tracks? I have had two 15 minute bouts today. Afraid I am going to crack my ribs.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: gnu
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 02:17 PM

Burnt toast and bitter jam.... or drugs.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 02:30 PM

Send me a little bit of nail, Skipper.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Helen
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 02:37 PM

Hi Sinsull,

I had much the same as you for a couple of months. The ears were the worst part. Antibiotics stopped the sinus headache but had no effect at all on the blocked ears. It felt like my head was full of glue.

A few people at work are also suffering from the blocked ears, among other symptoms.

I went and bought some over-the-counter nasal spray for hayfever and hey (hay) presto! the blocked ears started to unblock. Two months of blocked ears was hell. The cure was quick and effective. The brand I bought is called Beconase (in Oz). It works by reducing inflammation and I think that was the problem because I had very little of the runny-nose symptoms. In your case - the Green Goo Syndrome - maybe it would not help but for me it was little short of a miracle.

Maybe worth a try.

Helen

I wish you the Oz cure: tea, sympathy, and eucalyptus oil steam inhalations (antiseptic properties in eucalyptus, and helps to unblock everything nasal-related)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 02:58 PM

Tam,
Flat ginger ale or Pepsi sometimes helps. Tiny tiny sips.
Also deep breaths.

had that last week at the office. YUK!
M


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Bobert
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 04:27 PM

"Head full of glue", Helen??? Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm??? Now that's one rememdy I forgot all about... Glue therapy... I got some real decent vynal adhesive out in the tool room... Think I'll go a have a short visit with it an' see if that opens stuff up... Used to work purdy good...

Thanks...

B


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 04:31 PM

It opens up your horizons not your nasal passages.


And don't smoke while you are sniffing.

M


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 04:56 PM

owwww. it is the deep breaths getting me into trouble.. starts the wracking cough then the heaving. love ginger ale. I have only been drinking water, cranberry drink and Earl Grey.

Do they have ginger ale in UK. Must check that now.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: kendall
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 08:17 PM

I may start a shit storm with this thought, but I've weathered many a gale, here it is.

They say that God said, "Let us create man in our own image."
No, who can imagine God with diarrhea?
Sorry, but such things keep me awake nights.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: jacqui.c
Date: 05 Dec 08 - 10:53 PM

Of course there is ginger ale in the UK, as well as ginger beer - lovely stuff!

Doctor tells me this is just a cold so I'm hoping that it should be clearing by the time I fly to the UK.

In the meantime Kendall is looking after me very well, but won't come too close for fear of catching it.

Sniff.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 07 Dec 08 - 09:48 PM

Jacqui - hope you feel better before you fly -- at the price of plane tickets, you damn well better feel well before you get on the plane and you better enjoy the free drinks (the food is still ghastly)....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: jacqui.c
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 10:19 AM

The cold seems to have passed over, thank heavens!

I eat at the airport - steak and salad - and then pass on the airline meal. I DO have the free wine though!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 11:25 PM

Ah yes, with your dietary restrictions that is probably a GOOD decision. Say hi to the Queen for me....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 09:19 AM

They say that God said, "Let us create man in our own image."
No, who can imagine God with diarrhea?


Skipper, haven't you heard of the Big Bang?


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 09:24 AM

Still ear infected.
WHIIIINE!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Mr Red
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 12:58 PM

eat plenty of garlic. It is a mild anitsceptic, and a strong anti-social


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 01:00 PM

Again with the garlic - I am not a vampire.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: ranger1
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 05:34 PM

What, Jason's chicken soup didn't cure you? Or are you just angling for more soup and sympathy?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Barry Finn
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 06:41 PM

"Still ear infected"

Did you do lobster?? No? "When will they ever learn, when will they ever,,,,,,

Barry


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 09:18 PM

No Barry - it is not failing to do the lobsters that has done her in ..... it is ignoring your wonderful advice about bat stew......!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 09:31 PM

Okay, that does it. Here are some cures from my home town, warranted genuine and copied from "Folk-Lore of Adams County, Illinois" (NY: Alma Eigens Hyatt Foundation, 1935), p. 241ff:

4983. Heat cow manure in sweet milk, then place this in a bag and tie it against the ear for earache.

4986. Cure earache by keeping the ear filled with goose grease.

4995. Fry a piece of rabbit fat and put one drop of the grease in the ear for earache.

4999. As an earache remedy, use skunk oil.

5006. A little urine rubbed in the ear will cure earache.

5010. Stop a girl's earache by inserting into her ear a few drops of urine from a boy.


Now, if these don't do it let me know. There are more cures to try.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 10 Dec 08 - 08:50 AM

Lordy, that last post reminded me of that old folk song:

My momma said not to put pee in my ear,
Pee in my ear....


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Dec 08 - 09:22 AM

Fortunately, my ear is starting to clear. But I will make a note of that for future reference, Rap.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Nigel Parsons
Date: 10 Dec 08 - 11:58 AM

Mary,
Lobsters disgust me, Barry.

For Peter Gray, and Somers too, though certainly in trade,
Were properly particular about the friends they made;
And somehow thus they settled it without a word of mouth --
That Gray should take the northern half, while Somers took the South.

On Peter's portion oysters grew -- a delicacy rare,
But oysters were a delicacy Peter couldn't bear,
On Somers' side was turtle, on the shingle lying thick,
Which Somers couldn't eat, because it always made him sick.

Gray gnashed his teeth with envy as he saw a mighty store,
Of turtle unmolested on his fellow-creature's shore.
The oysters at his feet aside impatiently he shoved,
For turtle and his mother were the only things he loved.

From W S Gilbert's 'Etiquette'

Not quite lobsters, & It doesn't help the symptoms, but it may raise a smile.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 10 Dec 08 - 02:29 PM

I am still doing the dry heave bob n weave over the big white tureen.

I WANT TO BE WELL -OH

A well-oh
A well-oh
I want to be Well-oh

gonna make this mantra into a sea shanty


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 10 Dec 08 - 02:32 PM

There is one - "Dramamine"


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Dec 08 - 08:03 AM

I think it's over...3+ weeks.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: gnu
Date: 11 Dec 08 - 02:53 PM

STILL??!! Owwwwwwwwwwwwwww! Maybe some good whiskey ear drops?

Poor dear. I hope you can remain sane thru this.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 11 Dec 08 - 03:34 PM

TEa Tree Oil, a few drops in the ear before sleeping. Assuming you CAN sleep.



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Rapparee
Date: 11 Dec 08 - 03:54 PM

Hamlet's uncle dripped poison into Hamlet's daddy's ears.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: gnu
Date: 11 Dec 08 - 04:10 PM

Already been suggested, Rap... whiskey.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 11 Dec 08 - 04:26 PM

There was a really gruesome episode of tHRILLER IN THE 60S - A GUY FALLS FOR A MISSIONARY'S WIFE IN THE MI9DDLE OF aFRICA. sHE IS NOT INTERESTED AND LOVES HER "OLDER" HUSBAND. dAMN cAPSLOCK!
Anyway, the would be suitor bribes a local to put an earwig in the husband's ear while he sleeps. This is a special earwig. It eats its way through your brain in a straight path. By the time it comes out the other ear, you're dead.

Of course the earwig gets put in the wrong ear and the Lotherio ends up screaming in pain for a few weeks as this thing chomps its way through his brain. BUT he survives and the earwig comes out the other side.

No one is celebrating his recovery and he thinks he is up on a attepted murder charges but the sad truth is "It was a female and she laid her eggs in your brain. They will hatch in a day or two and..."


That might work.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: TRUBRIT
Date: 11 Dec 08 - 04:44 PM

Mary - is Alice sitting on your keyboard again!!!! Are you home sick or is your work day over...hope work is safe.......


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Becca72
Date: 11 Dec 08 - 04:57 PM

I thought staying away from you infected people would work, but one must have slipped through and now I'VE come down with something. Chest cold (extra fun for this asthmatic) with a nagging cough and lots of post-nasal drip. HARUMPH!! At least my ears don't hurt.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Dec 08 - 11:07 AM

You got that from Jacqui. Mine starts with a vicious sore throat. And no - I still can't hear out of my left ear. 12 hours in a 45 degree house didn't help.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Becca72
Date: 13 Dec 08 - 11:46 AM

I think I brought mine back from CT with me from my weekend away. I haven't seen Jacqui recently enough to blame her (I stopped over on the evening of the 8th thinking she was leaving on the 9th but there she was gone!). :-)


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 13 Dec 08 - 11:54 AM

Geeze, wotta crowd--ya suggest something helpful and you get back pictures of brain-eating earwigs. Wow!! Tough house, man.


A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Charmion
Date: 13 Dec 08 - 02:42 PM

... [creaks open door, peeks around jamb] Is it possible you people will be healthy by New Year's Eve, or should we just stay home with our own germs?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 13 Dec 08 - 04:14 PM

I'm gonna leave that one alone, Charmion. Whatever you do, though, have a great New Years and a full, rich year together thereafter...



A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Dec 08 - 04:30 PM

I have warmed and disinfected a bed for you Charmion.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 08:25 AM

Occasional tinnitus in my left ear is all that's left of the Infection From Hell. I suspect the antibiotics and my immune system have left me more than able to cope with whatever else winter thriows my way. ut now everyone else is hacking and coughing - bronchitis everywhere.

I don't even mind going to work now that I feel good.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: maeve
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 09:47 AM

That's great news, Sinsull.

maeve


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 10:10 AM

I started getting sick again this morning. 2:30am sore throat. All day draining sinus, sneezing and headache. I don't believe it.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 10:12 AM

Awwww Virginia Tam. Hot soup and rest. Sorry you're feeling poorly.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: maeve
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 10:18 AM

Oops, sorry. GUEST was meself. IE et my cookies.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Charmion
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 03:32 PM

Hack, splutter, wheeze ...

It's me, with the Cough That Ate Christmas. I'm also still kinda deaf, and the nose runs like the garden hose given half a chance. We are now half-way through the third week -- it all began on Friday, the freakin' twelfth of December.

My head is not particularly large, and is generally accepted to be full of brains. How in blazes does it produce so much SNOT?

Wheeze, splutter, hack ...


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Amos
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 03:38 PM

Ya know, you guys could move to SOuthern California....




A


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Becca72
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 03:39 PM

After hacking my brains out for a week I saw my doctor and he told me it should begin working its way out of my system in 3-4 more days and I'll be damned if he wasn't correct. Right on schedule I started feeling better and now it's totally gone.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: SINSULL
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 04:22 PM

Virginia Tam - it sounds like what I had. Antibiotics and probably two courses.
Feel better all. This crap is not fun.


But bourbon has been known to help.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Maryrrf
Date: 30 Dec 08 - 04:25 PM

I almost never get sick but I had a terrible chest cold that started December 15th or so and continued until around December 28th. I just couldn't seem to shake it - took three days off from work, stayed in bed, but the coughing was awful. I think my son brought it when he came to visit from California. My other son caught the cold and also developed an opportunistic ear infection, which he's still dealing with although it seems to be improving. The only good thing about being sick is it makes you so appreciative of feeling normal when it goes away!


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 01 Jan 09 - 11:22 AM

Ya know, you guys could move to SOuthern California

Everybody together now .... SHUT UP AMOS!

This thing first started on 13 November. I actually felt well and normal Christmas Eve, Christmas Day, Boxing Day and a few days following Boxing day.

Then it crept back on me. Luckily no fever with this one (so far), but all the other nasty stuff. Speak up Amos... I can't hear you.

I know what the problem is. I was on methotrexate (chemo) for nearly 2 years (a useless attempt to knock down my immune system as treatment for Rheumatoid Arthritis, which did nothing to the RA but made me feel like I had terminal day after syndrome when there had been no night before.... pant, pant, gasp.... so unfair). Stopped chemo in June 08 but my immune system has not recovered.

What makes it worse? I was not informed by my GP that flu vaccine was available until after I fell ill. Still getting reminders to make appointment. Can't get well enough to have the damn jab.

Who says Americans don't get irony! It is heaped upon me and it is gettin damned heavy.


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Charmion
Date: 01 Jan 09 - 12:06 PM

Like Virginia said, Amos. If I moved to southern California, I'd hack all the time from the dryness.

I missed my flu shot, too; I was either hacking or sneezing, and the doc won't needle me in either condition. At least he spares me the nagging -- he doesn't have time.


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Subject: RE: I Got It from Agnes
From: Charley Noble
Date: 20 Mar 20 - 10:29 AM

It's time to refresh this old thread. Evidently some topics never get old.

Charlie Ipcar


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: keberoxu
Date: 20 Mar 20 - 10:36 AM

Charlie:   "I Got It from Agnes" ??
Yes, I recognize Tom Lehrer's lyric, but?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Charley Noble
Date: 21 Mar 20 - 10:00 AM

Yes, I was looking for "I Got It from Agnes," evidently composed around 1952 but not recorded until much later on Tomfoolery. I'm not sure why this thread is below the line.

Charlie Ipcar


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Mar 20 - 02:30 PM

Probably this thread was started below the line because
it was about members feeling ill,
and not about Tom Lehrer?


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Subject: RE: BS: The Infection From Hell
From: Mr Red
Date: 25 Mar 20 - 04:03 AM

How can you feel ill, listening to Tom Lehrer?

Tom on YouTube

Enjoy


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