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2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened

muppitz 08 Dec 08 - 07:31 AM
Kampervan 08 Dec 08 - 07:39 AM
Big Al Whittle 08 Dec 08 - 07:43 AM
The Borchester Echo 08 Dec 08 - 07:54 AM
Richard Bridge 08 Dec 08 - 10:27 AM
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Subject: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: muppitz
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 07:31 AM

I've been trying to find out the results through the Radio 2 website and it doesn't seem to be on there, anyone know what happened, who won etc???

muppitz
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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Kampervan
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 07:39 AM

Is this what you're looking for?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/events/folkawards2008/winners.shtml


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 07:43 AM

No I think it was the competition with Lucy Ward as a contestant that has local people interested.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 07:54 AM

Smoothops appear to be in hibernation and have not updated the site since last Friday but the winners were Megan & Joe Henwood, a brother and sister duo doing self-composed material with alto sax accompaniment.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 10:27 AM

Sounds very smoothiechops and not very folk


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: breezy
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 10:55 AM

Someone should enter Jez Lowe next year


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: cobra
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 11:05 AM

Mrs Lowe might resent that.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Folkiedave
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 11:14 AM

who judged it?


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: GUEST,jimmoray
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 11:20 AM

Hi Richard,
I was one of the judges this year. All the competitors did well, but Megan and Joe just played best on the night. There's no conspiracy.

Jim


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Folkiedave
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 11:34 AM

Hi Jim,

I was not suggesting there was a conspiracy - I just wanted to know who the judges were.

But your gesture is appreciated.

Dave Eyre


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: GUEST,jimmoray
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 11:42 AM

I was replying to Richard above...

The other judges were John Leonard (you know who he is), Steve Kersley (Proper distribution), Al Booth (head of specialist music at radio 2) and Eddie Barcan (Cambridge folk festival and Glastonbury).

thanks


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Banjiman
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 11:43 AM

Here's a link to Megan's MySpace . I assume the songs on the night were completely different ones, and the instrumentation and arrangements?

Even with my pretty wide interpretation of what is folk...I'm not sure that the songs on MySpace fit ? But then perhaps I'm just very old fashioned and ill informed?

Lovely voice though.

Paul


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: GUEST,No Fixed Abode
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 11:56 AM

This is the list of Influences Megan quote on there myspace page

Bill Withers, Sam Brown, Bob Dylan, Anias Mitchell, Stevie Wonder, Annie Defranco...

They also list themselves as SOUL/ACOUSTIC/FUNK artists

Is this the right myspace page??

confused
tony


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Banjiman
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 12:03 PM

I don't know for sure Tony. I hope I am not basing my opinion on a falsehood..........I'll very happily eat my words if this proves to be the case.

Paul


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: s&r
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 12:52 PM

The report doesn't mention Maz o'Connor except with lLast Orders. Didn't she compete?

Stu


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 01:11 PM

The judges, Jim Moray et al, were judging on the quality of the performances that were put in front of them on the night. By all accounts, it was a foregone conclusion, Megan and Joe's act was great. Clearly there are some who query whether they qualify as a folk act. That is another question.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 02:36 PM

OK. Call me a dinosaur. Go on...
People seem to be nervous about saying this, but here goes: THIS IS NOT FOLK MUSIC. Not by any definition I am aware of. I have a pretty broad definition, by some people's standards, but this is outside of it. I'm not criticising the music - It's very pleasant, and well performed - but it shouldn't qualify for a folk award. And on those grounds, should not have been allowed to enter, let alone win. A bit like a cyclist winning the long jump event at the Olympics. It's no wonder that J. Public hasn't got a clue what folk music is, when all he has to go on - unless he is prepared to take a leap in the dark and go to a folk event to find out - is the Ministry of Misinformation dishing out this sort of thing. Are these awards at all relevant? It all seems to have more to do with the current 15-minutes-of-fame culture than with folk music.
Incidentally, haven't we just had the folk awards, or have I been asleep for 12 months?
Yrs. Disgruntled. St Helens.
PS. I do folk music, if anybody's interested, although I'm not in line for any awards, nor am I likely to be.
John Kelly.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Banjiman
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 02:56 PM

John,

I agree with your assessment of the music on the MySpace link. However.....I assume they must have been doing something completely different on the finals night......musn't they?

I understand they were a duo not a full band. Was anyone there and able to comment?

Paul


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 02:59 PM

The Young Folk Award final is always at the beginning of December.
The R2 Folk Awards annual beano is always at the beginning of February.
People always whinge.
I have no more to say.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: terrier
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 03:05 PM

I know that it has been discussed to death many times here on Mudcat, but maybe Guest,jimmoray would like to have a go at defining what the judges of YFA perceive as 'Folk' music, then all our minds will be at rest.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 03:08 PM

Oh, yeah, it's the beano I'm thinking of. And I'm not whingeing. Us dinaosaurs don't, you know. JK.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: GUEST,Greycap
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 03:08 PM

Didn't sound anything like my perception of folk music, either.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: GUEST,Shimrod
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 03:18 PM

You should all know by now that 'all music is folk music'! I believe that the Halle Orchestra are thinking of entering next year.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Folknacious
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 03:29 PM

"I assume they must have been doing something completely different on the finals night......musn't they?"

Yes they were. Acoustic guitar and alto saxophone which was a refeshingly different blend, good singing in her own English accent that showed some awareness of traditional vocal styles, well constructed songs, professional without being slick. They were the obvious winner on the night out of a very good set of finalists. I wouldn't have recognised them from that MySpace which is probably a different musical project. The talk afterwards was that they've grown up going to a well known folk club (sorry, forgot the name) where their mum was the landlady of the pub.

Tyde were extremely good but in a style many others play, their age wasn't a relevant factor at all but I suppose that's easier for instrumental-only entrants. Lucy Ward and Maz O'Connor concentrated on the vocals where their immaturity showed a little and in their case you know they'll get better with the life experience to match their song content and obvious vocal abilities. Emily Hoile and Alice Burn had almost too much technique to the point it didn't really gel - less would be more, something you can also only learn from experience. Jaywalkers were the only ones I disliked because of the girl's rather grating American accent.

It was a good night out, and Jeana Leslie & Siobhan Miller have made huge leaps forward since winning last year, but that always happens.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 03:43 PM

'A different musical project'...? So folk music is a 'project'?
What was the 'well-known folk club'? I've been to some well-known folk clubs where I was the only one playing folk music. I'd be interested to hear what they actually did on the night, though.
John Kelly.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Folkiedave
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 04:01 PM

Nettlebed I think.....


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: evansakes
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:03 PM

Yes, it is Nettlebed they're linked to.

Having a quick listen to MySpace I'm pretty certain the song 'Lavender Moon' was one of the songs they played on the night. Listen to it and imagine it stripped down to just guitar and sax and that's pretty much what we had on the night.

The issue of the accents is a strange one for me....I didn't notice that Megan sang in a particularly English one or that Jayhawkers were employing American ones. Musicality, quality of song, tone of voice, diction etc but please God I hope the judges weren't marking up or down based on such trivialities.

Megan has a distinctive and powerful voice and Joe is a talented sax player with a mature ear for improvisation. I'd say he's listened a fair bit to the likes of David Sanborn. This of course wouldn't ever be a bad thing but it's not going to help him gain much of a folky sensibility. Just as you'd never expect Courtney Pine or Wayne Shorter to be nominated for a Folk musician of the year award.

This may be doing them a disservice but it would be reasonably easy to understand how people could jump to the conclusion that Megan and Joe have been encouraged to temporarily disengage themselves from their band purely to enter this competition.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:13 PM

Megan and Joe love playing music from lots of genres but there real passion is in folk. They hope that people will give them a chance and not judge them on just there myspace page. They feel privileged and honoured to of won this award and look forward to playing the festivals next year.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: The Sandman
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:30 PM

Dick Miles looks forward to playing many festivals next year as well.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:34 PM

If you don't want to be judged by your Myspace page, then what the hell is it there for? Is this just me? You know - wooly mammoth thinking...
Regarding the above comment about imagining it stripped down... If it's fo;l music, I'd recognose it whatever the instrumentation. I'm just going to have a listen....
JK


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Folknacious
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:35 PM

"Megan and Joe love playing music from lots of genres but there real passion is in folk. They hope that people will give them a chance."

Their real passion was obvious and I'm sure it helped them get their win last Friday. I hope that people will give them a chance too, and also remember when posting knee-jerk knocking on here that just possibly these young people may be reading what you say. Don't sour their win for them before you've even given them a fair chance. Suggestions by people who weren't even there that they were a contrived entry are mean spirited and unjustified.

Megan and Joe, if you are reading (or GUEST above, who obviously know them, please pass this on) - congratulations, well done, and some of us will look forward to hearing more of what you can do at next year's festivals. Thank you.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:40 PM

Yes, I'm quite sure you do, Dick, and I hope I'll be seeing you. But you're a bit to old for the YFA.
And I hope to see Megan and Joe at festivals too. Even if their anonymous backer is a tad lacking on the grammar front.

"there real passion? Ahem.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Folknacious
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:40 PM

"If you don't want to be judged by your Myspace page, then what the hell is it there for?"

Perhaps to promote another band they play in, in a different genre of music? Is that a bad thing? It wasn't them who posted the link here.

Why not reserve judgement until you've heard the Folk On 2 broadcast of the concert which I think is this Thursday?


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Mrs Banjiman
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:40 PM

Happy to give them a chance.......as I hope my posts above show.

They need to get that MySpace changed quickly though if they want to be taken seriously (in the folk world)....... that is not to knock them though!

Megan undoubtedly has a lovely voice, I look forward to hearing her sing something a bit folkier.

Paul


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:47 PM

Well, I think it is actually on the Mike Harding Show on Wednesday.
I say this in the certain knowledge that "Folk On 2" ceased to exist over a decade ago.
I collapse in disbelief. What exactly is wrong with artists operating in a multiplicity of genres? (Please don't answer, I really don't want to hear).


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 05:52 PM

Well, I've just listened to Lavender Man, and I can't see the link with folk music, apart from it having words and a tune. Incidentally, it states on the top of the page that the music is soul/acoustic/funk. Doesn't mention folk.
I'll tell you what pisses me off about these awards: it's the same as the Xfactor/Popstar etc stuff on the telly. The winners are selected from the entrants. "Bleedin' obvious", I hear you say. Point is, the candidates are self-selected. I'll never win Xfactor, 'cos I ain't putting my name forward. Whether I'd get anywhere doesn't even come into it. I could enter myself for next year's Young Folk Awards - on the same basis as the above suggestion about the Halle Orchestra. If it doesn't have to be folk music, then why should I have to be young? I'm asking this as a serious question.
John Kelly.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Folknacious
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 06:05 PM

"why should I have to be young?"

Well it does rather sound like you never were. In fact it sounds like you have a handlebar moustache, a rather red face, bulging eyes and a very loud voice. But then I'm just judging you by something I found on the internet.

Exits stage left, clucking like a horse . . .


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 06:30 PM

Folknacious: I was young once; whether you care to believe it or not doesn't matter, nor does it answer the question. Oh - and I don't know what you've seen on t'internet to suggest the contrary, but I don't have a red face or bulging eyes. Perhaps your PC needs a service. And, in case my previous disclaimer sailed past one or two people, I have no objection to the music I heard on the MySpace page. But it isn't folk music, and somebody back there said they thought that Lavender Man was one of the songs performed on the show, so I went back and listened to it.
Diane: I know you've gone off in a huff (twice), and so won't see this, but I'm afraid I'm out performing on Thursday (folk dancing), but I'll try and get it on t'internet, just to be scrupulously fair. I repeat though, for those determined to misinterpret my intentions, that this is not about the undoubted talents of the young lady and her musicians; it's about the - admittedly 'alleged' at this stage -mis-use of the term 'folk'. ANd why am I getting so worked up about it? Well, because my passion, too, is for folk music, and I'm beginning to feel distinctly out of place on the British folk circuit.
John Kelly.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 06:32 PM

Feels like 1974 -
Ghastly mellow saxophones all over the floor...

- Robyn Hitchcock

No, seriously. Very nice, very competent, good easy listening. Megan H has a fine voice, which probably sounds even better with less going on behind it.

But, if it's possible to say "this isn't folk", then I'm with John - this isn't folk.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: greg stephens
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 06:50 PM

As usual, anybody ventures to say "it isn't folk" gets castigated for attacking the act. Yer what? It's not a criticism, it's a classification. A hippopotamus is not a butterfly. Is that some kind of snide remark?


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: GUEST,or it might be folk
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 07:42 PM

"Butterpotamus" and "Hippofly"

both certainly sound like they could
be folk groups on the UK festival circuit !!!


..anyone wanna grab these names while they're stil fresh hot available ???


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 08 Dec 08 - 07:47 PM

Wha' Happened.....?

That's a quote from 'A Mighty Wind'..... isn't it?


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 03:18 AM

To those who think "f*lk" is a terminally damaged and discredited term, you're right. So don't use it. I don't.

The YFA winners put on the best performance on the night. That's what the competition is supposed to be about and for the first time in years, the judges' decision reflected the general consensus. A bit different from walking off in disbelief when Jim Moray, Jackie Oates, Bella Hardy and Dave Delarre weren't declared "winners". Though that isn't what it's about either: "competitors" welcome the opportunity to spend time and play together, to absorb each other's styles and learn. What they are is open-minded, musically. You should try it.

Oh, and the MH show is transmitted on Wednesday @ 7.00 p.m. Has been for ages. Then it's on the iPlayer.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: GUEST,Graham Bradshaw
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 05:34 AM

Well, there are two questions here as I see it.

Should an act which is patently obviously NOT FOLK, be in, let alone winning the Folk Awards? No. In the same way as you wouldn't get a rap artist in the Country Music Awards, or Fred Jordan in X Factor.

Should artists who are outside the genre be trying to make a career in the Folk world? Don't see why not. It was always so. Barbara Dickson, Jasper Carrott, Mike Harding and countless others, started off in the folk clubs, and went on to greater things elsewhere.

I can remember back in the 60s when the folk scene was much more eclectic than it is now. My own club - Surbiton - was considered to be fairly 'traditional', but would feature bluegrass, country, jazz, blues as well as what we now refer to as trad and revivalist folk.

How about this for a sample guest list....
Stephane Grapelli with Diz Disley
Ken Colyer Jazzband
Bill Clifton
Julie Felix
Malcolm Price
Jesse Fuller
Jo-Ann Kelly
Sandy Denny
Pentangle
Dave & Toni Arthur
Isabel Sutherland
Stewarts of Blair

The flagship programme on the radio at the time was Country Meets Folk, hosted by Wally Whyton (a skiffler and pal of Pussy Cat Willum).

So, nothing much has changed in that department!! Not Mike's fault - he is working to a brief laid down by SmoothOps and ultimately the Beeb.

In the case of the winners of YFA, they will probably get booked at just about every folk festival next Summer and, if the audiences don't take to them, they will disappear without trace the following year, and go back to wherever it is that they DO belong.

In this case, the market WILL decide.

As an afterthought, I just showed a friend of mine who plays in a very good pop covers band the footage on the Shrewsbury Folk Festival website. Oysterband, Doonans, The Duhks, Demon Barbers, Bellowhead - he thought it was a Country Music festival and didn't think any of them were anything to do with folk!!

AS always, it is in the eye of the perceiver.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Folkiedave
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 05:39 AM

I tend to agree with Graham on this one. They may not even get booked at a load of festivals, (but I bet Maz O'Connor does).

She has always wowed any audience - including Cropredy.......


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 06:23 AM

nothings changed except its nowadays de rigeur for the judges to get snerchy about a phoney American accent.

How many of your guest list would have stood up to that scrutiny - let alone some kid who's trying to get above the floorsinger level?


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: GUEST,Working Radish
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 06:55 AM

What leaps out at me is that nowadays it's de rigueur not to get snerchy about original material - or, more to the point, about the complete absence of traditional material.

While I'm in disagree-with-WLD mode, I've never understood what's hard about singing in your own accent. It's not even a pop vs folk thing - the Beatles and David Bowie and the Smiths and New Order have sold squillions, without an American accent between them. Obviously some cover versions call for a fake accent, or you'd end up with
I say you chaps, if you knew Peggy Sue
They you'd jolly well know why I feel blue...

But if you're doing your own stuff, what's wrong with your own voice?


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Harmonium Hero
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 08:22 AM

I've just listened to the whole of the MySpace selection, and it still isn't folk music. I did notice, however, that the 'soul/acoustic/funk' line now reads 'acoustic/funk/folk'. Strange; it still sounds exactly the same to me. What has happened overnight that I'm missing?
And all right, Diane, I bow to your superior knowledge yet again. Mike Harding is ALWAYS on Wednesday, as the Young Folk Awards are ALWAYS in December, and tha Folk Awards Beano is ALWAYS in ...er.. whatever it was. You see; I don't really spend my time listening to/watching these things. Too busy learning/practicing/going out singing FOLK MUSIC. In fact, on the infrequent occasions that I have caught the Mike Harding programme, it ALWAYS seems to be about the Young Folk Awards.
Dino Saur.


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 08:28 AM

"Snerchy"? THat's hardly a traditional word is it?


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Subject: RE: 2008 R2 Young Folk Award - What Happened
From: The Borchester Echo
Date: 09 Dec 08 - 08:47 AM

Well, Mr Saur, I haven't listened to the MH prog for YEARS and nowadays rarely even bother to scan the playlists. I don't need to to be aware that the event under discussion is The Young Folk AWARD, an annual competition entirely unconnected to the Folk AWARDS, which are an industry event.

These are young people who, for several months, have competed through a series of heats to take part in a final in which their performance is judged against their peers. The act which comes out best ON THE NIGHT in terms of not only musical ability but also all-round stagecraft is the one that gets the award and opportunities for further exposure.

Many who have not won in the past have, nevertheless, come through anyway and have become established stalwarts of the circuit, of festivals and the recording world. One example was someone whose work I knew well who had the misfortune to have her instrument stolen only days before the final. Being a little unsure with an unfamiliar replacement quite possibly robbed her of the award, in exactly the same way in which a seasoned performer can also have an off night and fail to impress.

The YFA is thus but one route to success. It is not (and shouldn't be) a vehicle for anyone - whether judge or vocal punter - to promote their own particular fave or hobby horse. It is merely a test of who might be up-and-coming as well as a wonderful experience for all participants to share.


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