Sheffield carols (and others)

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 03:54 AM

They do indeed have a tradition at Coal Aston.

What you may not know is that there is one at Beeston, based around a methodist chapel.

If you go to Village Carols website Brightest and Best tells a bit about Beeston and the next one is Coal Aston.

Both of these are based around Methodist churches. It isn't all boozers!!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 05:24 AM

Right, Dave, but don't tell about the hip flasks!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 05:33 AM

Poem cum folk-carol 230 of 230: AS GOSPELLERS HAVE SAID/CHRISTMAS SUNG SIMPLY

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As gospellers have said,
Beneath signalling skies,
On land dusty to tread,
A trough in a stable
Was the strawy first-bed
Of a divine baby -
The forgiving Godhead.

A season for new hope -
There then and here now;
The yuletide of goodwill -
There then and here now.

In respect of this chance,
Beneath bright or dark skies,
Faith's the star that we glance
Attending Christ's churches
And trying to enhance,
With singing and ritual,
Our God-loving stance.

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(You may hear it on myspace.)
(C) David Franks 2003

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Noreen
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 07:26 AM

This may have been posted before (Yorkshire Post,Published Date: 09 December 2006), but well worth a read anyway!

'Tis the season to be jolly

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Cath
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 07:47 AM

Does anyone know what is happening at the George at Upper Denby this year? I've had a look at the South Yorkshire site but can't find any reference.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 09:42 AM

Assume the George at Upper Denby is going ahead. I was speaking to a regular there last week and he seemed to think so.

I'll see if Pat Malham has a contact to confirm and put on the local carols website.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: r.padgett
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 10:13 AM

Yes Dave the George details are missing (it was at the Fountain at Ingbirchworth)

Now led by Barry Bridgewater

Ray

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 11:04 AM

And I believe that whilst they normally only sing in December, because of the calendar - they start this coming Sunday. Grenoside (Old Harrow) the same.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: GUEST,BBP at work
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 12:07 PM

Dave, do you know if Grenoside will do the usual dance and sing on Boxing Day?

Thanks!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 12:52 PM

It will break with thousands of years of tradition if they don't!

It wll go ahead. And nowadays there are other groups dancing too. Notably Sciorr.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Mrs.Duck
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 01:19 PM

We ahd hoped to get to Dungworth last Sunday but hopefully we'll make it next Sunday instead.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Wyrd Sister
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 03:28 PM

'they start this coming Sunday. Grenoside (Old Harrow) the same.'

NB Folkiedave means Grenoside start this coming FRIDAY. Or, if he didn't, he should have!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 03:47 PM

Did someone mention carols? :0)

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 04:40 PM

He did. Sorry. Friday it is. Old Harrow, 8.00 pm.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: GUEST,melinda
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 06:13 PM

For people in the US, there's a similar Pub Sing in Boston on December 6. I'm trying to find a ride!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Edthefolkie
Date: 24 Nov 09 - 11:54 PM

FolkieDave, thanks very much for confirmation re Coal Aston. I thought it still happened but got conflicting info!

I had heard about the Beeston (Notts)carols - think they emanate from the huge Methodist church on High Rd just round the corner from where I spent my first 5 years.

Don't get over to Beeston as much as I used to as my mum, who lived up the road at Bramcote, passed away earlier this year. What trips I have done have tended to be to the Victoria pub next to Beeston station - no carols but plenty of music, good food, beer and trains - recommended but parking can be dicey, and remember to turn your mobile off!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: AlanG
Date: 25 Nov 09 - 09:03 AM

The Grace Darling Singers will be presenting "A West Gallery Christmas" at Chadkirk Chapel Romily Stockport (www.chadkirkchapel.org.uk/chad_events.asp) at 7:30 on Saturday 5th December. Plenty of Sheffield Carols (and others).

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 07:25 AM

I don't think that anyone has mentioned the Carolling happening in the Saddleworth area this year.

Delph band club at about 7:00pm after the switching on of the Christmas lights on December 5th, and the Church Inn, above Uppermill at about 7:300pm on December 11th.

This is an attempt to revive a dormant tradition, we'll see if enough people are interested to keep it going.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 08:49 AM

Is there a way to get the cd listed above,:
English Village Carols: Traditional Christmas Carolling from the Southern Pennines

if you live in the US of A?

Allison

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 09:04 AM

English Village Carols: Traditional Christmas Carolling from the Southern Pennines is a Smithsonian Folkways production. SFW CD 40476

You should be able to get it direct from them, or from Amazon US, or from any Internet retailer.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 10:39 AM

This links into a Dirty Linen article which tells all about the Glen Rock Carolers from Pennsylvania. (If you are anywhere near, do go - an amazing experience).

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 27 Nov 09 - 03:10 PM

Fred. Oh, of course. Duh me. Here it is!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Les from Hull
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 05:45 AM

We're on our way to Dungworth, and afterwards at Fagans this afternoon. Would like to meet others of similar interests gsoh
Les Mags Pips Liz

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: JohnB
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 03:26 PM

Over in Canada the Orange Peel Carolers are at it again.
Last Friday night we did a fundraising concert fot the Gibson Centre in Alliston and must have made them around 1000$Can.
We are at the Shepherds Crook in Georgetown 2.00 pm Dec 13th
Golden Kiwi, Cambridge. ONT. Canada. Dec 27th be there early the Olympic torch thing is going on across the road (we should play Bring a Torch Jeanette Isobella, there again we sometimes do).
We will be in the Winchester Arms Orangevile a couple of Thursday nights in December too.
JohnB

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 29 Nov 09 - 03:28 PM

Over in Canada the Orange Peel Carolers are at it again.

Great to hear that.

Did you pick up on Ric and Jess's baby?

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Captain Farrell
Date: 30 Nov 09 - 02:33 PM

Is there a rehearsal in a church for the Saddleworth sing can someone post a time and place

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 07:53 AM

I don't think that there are any more rehearsals for the Saddleworth sings. Just turn up on the day(s) and join in!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Dame Pattie Smith EPNS
Date: 01 Dec 09 - 08:22 PM

Splotty and I were in Worrell, Sheffield on the weekend at a Birthday party. It just happened there was a carol singing at the Blue Ball pub in the next street on Sunday lunchtime would you believe! I didn't know this happened, it was brilliant. They sang for 2 hours. I loved it.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 07:47 AM

I've found this about the Saddleworth area singing.

http://www.oldham-chronicle.co.uk/news-features/8/news-headlines/33213/seasonal-singing-has-the-exfactor

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 10:44 AM

Don't go looking for Worrell though - it is Worrall.

The sings at Worrall and Dungworth are a bit like Tesco's and Sainsbury's or (more locally, Kashmir Curry Centre/Mangla) People who go to one tend not to go to the other.

And whatever you do don't go up the Loxley Road B6077 this weekend - it is the Percy Pud. A 10k road race right on the way up the carols.

Try the B6076 via Stannington instead.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Dame Pattie Smith EPNS
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 11:17 AM

I just looked up Percy Pud. Is the first prize really a Christmas pudding? I expect they'll all be out of breath by the time they get to the carols and won't be able to sing!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Folkiedave
Date: 02 Dec 09 - 06:47 PM

Is the first prize really a Christmas pudding? I expect they'll all be out of breath by the time they get to the carols and won't be able to sing!

Every entrant gets a pudding!! All of them!!

Fortunately few come carolling afterwards - we don't mnd them but most prefer a shower first!!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: bradfordian
Date: 20 Dec 09 - 07:31 AM

Sorry if this has been put out in another thread.
The BBC Radio 2 programme "KEEPING TRADITION ALIVE AT CHRISTMAS" Mon 21 Dec at 10pm (GMT) looks worth a listen. It features a Kate Rusby & includes I believe, some Sheffield Carols.

brad

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: GUEST,Gadaffi
Date: 09 Dec 10 - 06:34 AM

I'm currently playing Ian Russell's CD of the singing at Dungworth. Amazing!

Does any 'catter know of commercially available CDs of carols from outside Yorkshire, esp Padstow and Odcombe - focus on 'traditional'?
I have the 'Hope in the Valley' cassette from Sussex, and Stanchester Quire's Christmas CD, and wondered/hoped there might be others esp from the South of England.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 09 Dec 10 - 07:55 AM

John Howson's Veteran label released a cassette of carols from Padstow many years ago. I've no idea whether it's been transferred to CD.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Dec 10 - 09:31 AM

Ian did tapes and CD's of some of the local traditions; off the top of my head - Dungworth, Worrall, Ecclesfield, Oughtibridge, Ingbirchworth, Beeston, Coal Aston.

As far as I am aware only Worrall is still available.

Doc Rowe produced a record of the Padstow singers about 8/10 years ago. Again I doubt this is availa

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: Cats
Date: 09 Dec 10 - 12:40 PM

Padstow carols cd is called Harky Harky and Doc Rowe may well still have copies

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: JohnB
Date: 09 Dec 10 - 02:06 PM

These guys are good, The Mellstock Band
JohnB.

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: JohnB
Date: 09 Dec 10 - 02:08 PM

Sorry just realized the thread creep, I was just answering the Gadaffi, Southern part of the question.
Of course they aren't as good as "real Northern Caroll singers" :p
JohnB

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: ConcertinaChap
Date: 15 Feb 11 - 02:27 PM

If you enjoy this sort of carol singing then it's worth starting something in your own area. I'd love to see pub singing all over the place and it only takes a bit of thought and enthusiasm to make it work. www.bradfordonavoncarols.info/ is our web site and it has some photos and recordings from our first go. It won't be the last!

Chris

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: GUEST,folkiedave
Date: 16 Feb 11 - 04:07 AM

Well done. The tradition has been spreading for ages. I know of two sessions in Canada for example and others have also taken up the idea.

It would be nice if some of the other carols from other traditions became more prominent rather than the prominence of the Dungworth and Worrall repertoire.

There are some great carols from Coal Aston, Foolow, Eyam, Odcombe, Padstow, Beeston (Notts) and others.

And take a look at your own area! You may be surprised!!

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: ConcertinaChap
Date: 17 Feb 11 - 08:11 AM

> And take a look at your own area! You may be surprised!!

Completely agree. In fact this is very important to us. If you look at the first of our recordings, Awake and Join the Cheerful Choir, that came from our research and comes from Britford in Wilshire. We also took a couple from just over the border in Somerset, the Nailsworth Beasts Song and The Little Young Lambs. We intend to increase the proportion from the local counties year by year.

Chris

PS In our research we found that the only reason the Gloucestershire Wassail wasn't called the Wiltshire Wassail was because the collectors got to Gloucestershire first. So we're claiming that as one of our own too!

Subject: Hark! The Glad Sound of Cornish Carols
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 14 May 18 - 04:53 PM

December 2017
Hark! The Glad Sound of Cornish Carols
    Hilary Coleman and Sally Burley

" ... a record of carols sung throughout Cornwall, in a variety of locations: church, pub, chapel, on the street, in people’s houses and at special occasions such as the Bodmin Wassail, Picrous Eve and St Just Feast – to show how embedded these carols are in their communities. ­"


"Cornish Carols are unique and to have a publication that brings together the essence of that is marvellous. The hours and miles will have been well worth it I am sure."
Roger Gool (Leader of Padstow Carollers)


The book contains two CDs as well as scores and words, the background to the carols, the composers and reminiscences of people who sang them.

£19.99 ISBN 978 1 9999037 0 1
214 pages paperback

https://shoutkernow.wordpress.com/2017/11/02/hark-the-glad-sound-of-cornish-carols-2/

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols - Bishop's Castle
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 10 Aug 18 - 11:22 AM

2018 - "Sheffield Carols" in Bishop's Castle, Shropshire

All practices and singing sessions will be held at
The Three Tuns, Salop Street, Bishop’s Castle,
SY9 5BW.

Practices will be held on Monday nights –
22nd and 29th October,
5th, 12th, 19th and 26th November 2018.

Singing will be on Sundays –
2nd, 9th, 16th and 23rd December
and Boxing Day 2018, 
and on 12th Night, 6th January 2019.

https://castlecarols.com/when-where/ 

Subject: RE: Sheffield carols (and others)
From: FreddyHeadey
Date: 14 Aug 18 - 05:08 AM

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^^^^ Bishop's Castle\Castle Carols\SW Shropshire
has its own thread
thread.cfm?threadid=164689&messages=3 


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Carol Workshops at Whitby Folk Week
(August)
http://www.villagecarols.org.uk/events/carol-workshops-at-whitby-folk-week.html


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Village Carols
has a links page listing for other carol groups, sites and information
http://www.villagecarols.org.uk/links/index.html 


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