BS: Why Iraq Was a Mistake, Teribus...

Subject: RE: BS: Why Iraq Was a Mistake, Teribus...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 05:08 PM

Nah, bruce... T gave a list of various organizations that have attempted to put a number on this... If you take the entire list that T gave and average it out it's closer to the 500,000 number... T conveniently only used the lower numbers... Do the math...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Why Iraq Was a Mistake, Teribus...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 05:19 PM

109,032
104,658
110,600
178,000
151,000
654,965
1,033,000
---------
2,322,255 divided by 7 = 331,750 average which happens to be closer to the 500,000 average that I claimed than the low ball number that T clings to...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Why Iraq Was a Mistake, Teribus...
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 06:40 PM

No, Bobert.

He excluded specifically the estimates, for reasons he gave.

He is right, you are wrong IN THIS CASE.

To continue to argue when you have been caught in a falsehood devalues what ever else you might say, even when it is worth hearing.

I seem to recall someone saying
"I mean, these morons must think that everyone out there is as dumb as they are to believe that utter crap... I don't even read folks crap that begin that way because if the first 4 or 5 words are an out right lie than I know what is going to follow...

...... Just don't bullshit me with lies right out of the gate... It's insulting to anyone with an IQ greater than that of a box of animal crackers..."


So YOU need to watch the fast and loose way you make claims as to facts.

There were NOT more Palestinian refugees in 1948 than the entire population of Mandate Palestine.
Because YOU see a picture that YOU don't see minorities in, a group is not racist- it was pointed out that 40% of those on the stage WERE black.

The OWS have been shown with people with M-16s, yet you make claims for them being peaceful-the opposite of the tea party- without knowing what you are talking about, it seems from your standard rants- they are no more OR less peaceful than the Tea Party.

As long as you insist on one set of rules for those you agree with, and another for those you oppose, even your good points are made to look unreasonable.

Since your standard method of replying to a request for facts is to call someone racist, or blame the right wing for the faults of the world, you have lost a lot of credibility that your experience and knowledge would otherwise entitle you to.

Subject: RE: BS: Why Iraq Was a Mistake, Teribus...
From: Bobert
Date: 02 Nov 11 - 06:59 PM

In other words, he get to pick and choose "his facts" but I don't get to do the same???

Uh huh???

Sounds like the same old story... BTE, why do "T's facts" get priority, especially in light of:

Aluminum tubes
Uranium cakes from Niger
WMDs
Saddam being part of 9/11
Ignoring Hans Blix

etc...

Seems that I was on the correct side then but now you and T think that "T's facts" are somehow "new 'n improved"...

You both lack credibility here...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Why Iraq Was a Mistake, Teribus...
From: GUEST,beardedbruce
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 07:26 AM

No, Bobert, those comments of yours have been addressed, and you ignored all comments.


YOU don't get to pick out NON-factual points to prove your point, and then deny others the right to use factual ones.

As I said, your use of non-substantiated opinion as facts, and refusal to defend those opinions with facts, while ignoring all facts by others has damaged your credibility.

Your experience entitles you to some respect, UNTIL you insist that lies have to be true because they support your opinion. THEN any statement you make has to be looked at far more critically, and many of your perhaps valid points are discarded for lack of obvious factual basis, even if you could support them if you tried.

Subject: RE: BS: Why Iraq Was a Mistake, Teribus...
From: Bobert
Date: 03 Nov 11 - 08:57 PM

SSDD, bruce...

Hey, man... Stick to stuff that you know about...

I mean, T published right here in Mudburg a list of various organizations that have estimated the Iraqi war deaths but then went on to disqualify the ones that didn't fit his narrative...

That is fact... Anyone with any critical thinking skills just needs to read the past few days posts and will see that T (and you) want to rig the game...

Here are some other rigged games:

Aluminum tubes

Uranium cakes from Niger

WMDs

Saddam being involved with 9/11

45 minutes to Iraqi invasion of the US

Blah, blah, blah...

Blah, blah, blah...

and...

Blah, blah, blah...

B~