Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost

Subject: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 01:46 PM

PC Advisor magazine has posted a list of the "100 oldest websites.on the internet."

The list begins with "1. symbolics.com: March 15, 1985."

In the superficial fashion I've come to expect from this publisher, the list includes only ".com" domains, as though only "commercial" sites are the whole internet, but I have no reason to believe the list of "dot com" sites is inaccurate.

The first post at mudcat.org, according to a recent thread, was by Max, at the stroke of midnight morning, 01 October 1986, 12:00 am. It might be assumed that the "registration" of mudcat.org was sometime before then.

At the time of the first post here, according to the PC Advisor list, there were only TWENTY EIGHT (.com) domains registered.

The number of dot com registrations reached 100 more than a year later (November 30, 1987.

MUDCAT: cutting edge at the start, and still at the top.

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 01:50 PM

WOOHOO! Stoneage Mudcats rock!

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Ernest
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 02:11 PM

Stone Age would be just yesterday...

Guessing by the namegiving fish it was there before (to quote a Tom Paxton song) "the first amphibians crawled out of the slime..."

;0)
Ernest

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 02:23 PM

For the record, Digitrad hit the Internet in 1992. Where do the years go?

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: GUEST,DWR
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 02:35 PM

"at the stroke of midnight morning, 01 October 1986, 12:00 am."

But that should read 1996 instead of 1986, still a good accomplishment, though.

I see I resurrected the thread 15 Oct 98 - 06:29 PM, it's had a good number of replies since then.

I repeat my thanks from that post. It's still true.

Sometimes we need to be reminded of things. Thanks again, Max, Dick, Susan, and all those nameless (to me) people who help get the good news out there to us all.

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: GUEST,DWR
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 02:37 PM

Add: Obviously, if I were writing that today, Joe's name would make the named list!

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 07:57 PM

OK, I'm sure I checked that date at least twice while I was composing the post. Somebody must have changed it on me.

Be that as it may, MUDCAT is a WINNER, so it's our (my) privilege to rewrite history any way we (I) want it to remember it. ...

Now I'm gonna go BLUSH quietly in a corner.

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Janie
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 08:51 PM

lol, JiK!

Actually, don't you dare blush. You must have made hundreds of patient posts over the years answering tech questions and offering suggestions helpful to both technophobic dinosaurs like me and experienced technophiles. You've earned the right to post the occasional blooper without a blush!

Janie

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: katlaughing
Date: 05 Jan 09 - 09:12 PM

Very, very kewl!!

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Joe Offer
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 12:37 AM

Mudcat got its start as a folk music forum October 1, 1996, as deltablues.com. I don't knowe if it existed before it was a folk forum. I can't remember when it changed to mudcat.org. I'm sure there are still many links on the Internet that lead to deltablues.com.

Check this letter from Dick Greenhaus about the 1996 shutdown of the previous home of the Digital Tradition.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Azizi
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 01:38 AM

For those who may be interested, here's the astrological placements for deltablues.com

October 1, 1996

Sun - Libra 8 degrees
Moon- Gemini 4 degrees {noon}
Mercury-Scorpio 20 degrees
Venus-Leo 26 degrees
Mars-Leo 13 degrees
Saturn- Capricorn 9 degrees retrograde
Uranus- Aquarius 0 degrees retrograde
Neptune-Capricorn 24 degrees retrograde
Pluto- Sagittarius 1 degree
North Node-Libra 7 degrees
South Node-Aries 7 degrees

Source: American Emphmeris for the 20th Century, revised 5th edition, Neil Michelsen, revisions Rique Pottenger

**

Btw, I believe that the natal placements for deltablues.com can also be used for mudcat.org since lots of folks-like me-change their name or have their name changed, but their natal placements still fit them. That said, if it were known, I believe that the date that deltablues.com changed its name to mudcat.org could reveal other information about the essence of this online community.

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 01:51 AM

Well at least I can contribute that the xerox.com domain was registered (COPIED and PASTED directly from the magazine's list):

7. xerox.com: January 9, 1986

so at least, up to the time of the letter Dick was on one of the fustest hosses in the race.

And I still have the copy of the DT (DOS, of course) that I downloaded from the earlier site, I think.

I have the disk it was saved on; but I don't have a drive to read it in and those old floppies didn't really make very stable archives. I guess I can believe it's still there as long as I don't try to read it.

I think I'll just "keep the faith" and forget the facts - I know it's there as long as I don't look.

John

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Mr Red
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 04:08 AM

Shroedingers 'Cat = JohnInKansas' floppy

????

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Will Fly
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 04:18 AM

For those of us who are but as babes in the Mudcat family, what was the origin of the use of "Mudcat" for this forum? I found out about the forum by chance some months ago, when a commenter on one of my YouTube videos asked, "Are you a Mudcatter?" - I thought it was some sort of obscure sexual rite...

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Sleepy Rosie
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 04:28 AM

Azizi, if you want to open a BS thread on the astrological profile of Mudcat, I'll join you there...?

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Azizi
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 07:03 AM

Corrected Astrological Placement for Mudcat

Sun - Libra 8 degrees
Moon- Taurus 27 degrees {dawn}; Gemini 4 degrees {noon}
Mercury-Virgo 20 degrees
Venus-Leo 26 degrees
Mars-Leo 13 degrees
Jupiter-Capricorn 9
Saturn- Aries 3 retrograde
Uranus- Aquarius 0 degrees retrograde
Neptune-Capricorn 24 degrees retrograde
Pluto- Sagittarius 1 degree
North Node-Libra 7 degrees
South Node-Aries 7 degrees

-snip-

I'm sorry about the mistakes in my previous post to this thread such as failing to include Jupiter and mistaking Virgo for Scorpio. I blame the late hour for me and my failure to read with my glasses on.

Fwiw, I posted this same astrological placement list for Mudcat.org on this Mudcat thread Mudcat's Tenth Birthday.
Note that I had posted another placement list on that same thread, but when I reread the Emphemeris, I realized I had made a lot of mistakes citing those placements. However, I continue to believe in the validity of that this sentence that I wrote in that first placement citing post to that 2006 thread:

"FWIW, I have share [sic]some exact and some close astrological sign/degree placements with this chart. I wouldn't be surprised to find that other persons who have posted regularly and/or who still post regularly on this forum also have exact or close connections between these placements and their astrological charts.

However, a person's astrological chart is private information, and I'm not suggesting that those details be shared on this thread or any other thread".

-snip-

Sleepy Rosie, I never thought that I would be one of those veteran Mudcatters to say that the thread that you are suggesting has been done before. At least I'm saying it as a matter of information. I tried to find links to threads that have been started on this subject, but couldn't. Let's say that the overwhelming majority of the comments were not serious. I recall one particularly contentious thread that was started by a Mudcatter who I haven't seen posting here for a while.

There are some roads that I prefer not to travel again, unless I absolutely have to. Posting to a BS thread whose central focus is astrology is one of those roads. Instead, when the spirit moves me to do so, I've chosen to casually make references to astrology in some other posts that I write.

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Azizi
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 07:24 AM

Will Fly, here's a quote from this Mudcat thread:

BS: History of Mudcat

Subject: RE: BS: History Of Mudcat
From: GUEST,Mudcat FAQ's - PM
Date: 14 Nov 04 - 11:41 AM

Define "mudcat"

mud cat any of several catfishes capable of living in Muddy Waters.
Source: Webster's New World College Dictionary

Catfish and Muddy Waters are inextricably connected to the Blues. Max started the place as a blues site, but generously invited us folkies to join him


-snip-

Joe Offer, or other moderators, could you please add the same related thread listing for this "Mudcat Is FOREVER, almost" thread that is given for other Mudcat origin/history threads?

Thanks.

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Azizi
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 07:35 AM

This is definitely off-topic.

However, because I don't want what I was trying to say to be misunderstood, let me clarify a statement that I made on this thread.

I definitely don't think that the person who started the "long Mudcat thread on astrology" meant for that thread to be contentious or even expected that thread to be contentions. But imo, it definitely became contentious.

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: frogprince
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 11:18 AM

In the beginning was the Mudcat,
And it crept slowly over the wires...

Subject: RE: Tech: Mudcat IS FOREVER, almost
From: Uncle_DaveO
Date: 06 Jan 09 - 11:33 AM

Will Fly remembered:

a commenter on one of my YouTube videos asked, "Are you a Mudcatter?" - I thought it was some sort of obscure sexual rite...

It isn't?

Dave Oesterreich