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Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)

Surreysinger 26 Jan 09 - 06:59 PM
Alan Day 27 Jan 09 - 03:19 AM
Will Fly 27 Jan 09 - 03:43 AM
Hrothgar 27 Jan 09 - 04:11 AM
Alan Day 27 Jan 09 - 08:35 AM
Fidjit 27 Jan 09 - 08:56 AM
Will Fly 27 Jan 09 - 09:03 AM
Surreysinger 27 Jan 09 - 09:33 AM
Jim Carroll 27 Jan 09 - 02:47 PM
High Hopes (inactive) 27 Jan 09 - 03:22 PM
Malcolm Douglas 27 Jan 09 - 04:32 PM
Surreysinger 27 Jan 09 - 07:05 PM
Jim Carroll 28 Jan 09 - 03:03 AM
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Vic Smith 29 Jan 09 - 07:30 AM
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Subject: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Surreysinger
Date: 26 Jan 09 - 06:59 PM

Apologies to Vic Smith, who I think published details of this event under his continuing Royal Oak thread, but I thought it might be worth putting this thread out as a separate item.

The 150th anniversary of the birth of Lucy Broadwood, folksong collector, researcher, composer pianist, singer, poet, artist (you name it, she seems to have done it) occurred last August. In order to celebrate the event Ralph Jordan and I (Irene Shettle) have put together a show about her life and work in words and music called "Listen and You Shall Hear" - words taken from Lucy's writings and that of contemporaries and associates, and music from her own collecting work. We will be presenting the show at the Royal Oak in Lewes this Thursday, 29th January 2009. If you fancy learning a bit about a rather interesting woman, and hearing a few of the tunes and songs she collected,then it would be good to see you there.

Further details re the evening can be obtained from the Royal Oak's website and about us from our Myspace page


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Alan Day
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 03:19 AM

I shall be there
Al


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Will Fly
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 03:43 AM

Me too.


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Hrothgar
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 04:11 AM

If Jonathan Mitchell turns up, give him my regards

Roger Holmes


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Alan Day
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 08:35 AM

See you there Will sorry I missed your Henfield Sing around.
Al


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Fidjit
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 08:56 AM

Ah Shame.
Too far for me to come over for that.

Break a leg.

Say hello to everyone.

Chas


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Will Fly
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 09:03 AM

Al - I'll be at Charlwood Monday week. See you there as well!


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Surreysinger
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 09:33 AM

Thanks for the "break a leg" Chas!! I think I'll skip that injury, ta ... broke an elbow some years ago, and it's not something I particularly wish to follow up (grin)


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 02:47 PM

Good luck.
Taking the opportunity - I wonder if anybody can solve a mystery about Lucy Broadwood's collecting work.
It is a fairly well established fact that she used a recording machine when working with some of her singers; does anybody know what happened to the recordings.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: High Hopes (inactive)
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 03:22 PM

as to what happen to LB's recordings, the EFDSS probably has a very good idea, I'm sure.


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Malcolm Douglas
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 04:32 PM

Many don't survive, but a number -chiefly of Scottish Gaelic song- were found in storage when Malcolm Taylor took over at the VWML. These, together with some recordings made by other collectors, have been digitized by the British Library, and can be heard as streaming audio at  British Library Sound Archive: Ethnographic Wax Cylinders:

Wax cylinders: EFDSS Collection

There is also a podcast of a talk given by Malcolm and others which goes into detail:

http://www.bl.uk/podcast


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Surreysinger
Date: 27 Jan 09 - 07:05 PM

Thanks for the good wishes Jim, and I see that Malcolm got there with the answer to your query first!! In fact Lucy recorded the fact that she considered her Gaelic recordings to be one of her greatest achievements in life. If I recall correctly (haven't got my notes to hand)she had left instructions in her will that the recordings were to be deposited in Edinburgh but it seems that this instruction was ignored by her executors. Incidentally, one of those cylinder recordings, accessible from the link which Malcolm has provided is thought to be of Lucy herself playing the piano and singing "The Trees they do grow High" ... a very hooty soprano ... much the fashionable sound of the time, I believe.

Thanks for the link to the podcast, Malcolm - very welcome as I'd wanted to go to that presentation at the British Library and was otherwise engaged on the day. I hadn't come across that podcast before , and shall take the time to listen to it!


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 03:03 AM

Thanks Malcolm, I know about these.
Not long before he left for America, my old friend Bob Thomson was attempting to find recordings which she had reputedly made of English singers. He met with John Broadwood at The Atheneum and was left with the impression that the cylinders had either been badly stored by the family or had been destroyed. Bob left for Florida shortly afterward and was unable to follow the information up.
I wondered if anybody had been able to take the matter any further.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Fidjit
Date: 28 Jan 09 - 10:58 AM

Just spent a fascinating -was it really 91 minutes -listening to the podcast WOW!

Thanks Malcolm..

What I liked apart from all of it, was the song and singing of, Rambling Sailor.

I have sung this since, well the late fifties early sixties. When I acquired it from a Tim Hart recording.

Nice to see how it has evolved over a hundred years or more.

Chas


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes 29/01/2009
From: Vic Smith
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 07:30 AM

SHIRLEY COLLINS

MARTYN WYNDHAM-READ

MEMBERS OF THE BROADWOOD FAMILY


- all coming to see the show tonight. Wow!


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 29 Jan 09 - 08:20 PM

Well not in the end one of the Broadwoods ... but the others - yes! Thanks for letting us do the show at the club, Vic... it was a privilege and we really enjoyed ourselves.


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Alan Day
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 03:19 AM

Sadly I had to leave this evening early (to pick my Wife up) ,but I must give my congratulations to Irene and Ralphie for an excellent evening.
I would strongly recommend this mixture of a talk about Lucy Broadwood with a mixture of her biography,excellent singing and accompaniment of her songs,put over in an honest and amusing way.I feared initially that the evening would be a bit heavy for my taste,but far from it.It was very enjoyable and I would recommend this for any Folk Club.
Al


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 06:34 AM

Thanks for that Alan! (the cheque's in the post, by the way :-) ) Seriously though, it's good to know that the mix of the show, as you saw it, seems to be what we were trying to achieve. We enjoy performing it. Thanks for coming - especially since you thought you were in for an evening of "heavy" stuff ..[grin] - it was lovely to see you (and Will of course).


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Herga Kitty
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 02:36 PM

Will you be performing this at any festivals this year.....?

Kitty


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 30 Jan 09 - 09:07 PM

We're going to be at Traditions Festival in June ... as to any others, not sure at the moment. Several have been canvassed, but nobody has given us a positive reply as yet ... I wonder if the trouble may be that they think, like Alan did, that it might be a bit heavy for their tastes ... methinks they may be wrong !! [grins]
Obviously we would really love to put it on, having put quite a bit of work into it, and also being convinced of the importance of it's subject ! Otherwise, we will be performing it in Guildford in May as a fundraiser event for a local choir which I have sung with for many years - and it will be open to the general public. If you're interested, pm me Kitty!!


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Alan Day
Date: 31 Jan 09 - 04:39 AM

I think I got the impression from the evening description, that it was going to be mainly a talk on the life and times of Lucy Broadwood with the odd demonstration song.In fact the mixture was using each quote from her Diary,quotations and biography as an introduction to the next song or in a couple of places tunes.Not as I expected.A very nice mix.
Al


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 31 Jan 09 - 02:50 PM

Thanks Alan ... that mix is what I was trying to achieve in writing it. The show is about equally split between words and music ... and in all but two instances (or possibly one?) the words do link into the songs with some purpose, or as an illustration. The intention was/is(?) to provide an entertaining but informative evening, a show rather than a talk, with words and music (in most cases the tunes are probably not well known, nor are quite a few of the songs performed in the normally known versions). I'm really glad that you enjoyed it, and that we seem to have met our objective, and am really grateful for your feedback.

Enough!! If anyone out there would like to book the show having waded through this [grins] then we'd love to hear from you. You can always pm me to discuss it, of course.


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Will Fly
Date: 31 Jan 09 - 06:19 PM

Irene - could I add my compliments to those of Alan and congratulate you and Ralph on a good job well done. I wondered if it might be a little on the "academic" side - as one who has the attention span of a gnat these days - but it wasn't heavy at all! And you managed to keep that Ralph bloke in order (just). I'd read a bit, over the years, on LB's song collecting, but hadn't realised her influence on the classical music of the time.

You had quite a Surrey v. Sussex thing going as well - almost panto-like. "She was born in Surrey" - "BOOH" - "but buried in Sussex" - "HURRAY". I alsmost felt like shouting "she's behind you" at one point. However, decorum prevailed!

Well done.

Will


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 31 Jan 09 - 07:31 PM

Sorry Will ... go to the back of the class and start writing out lines!! She was actually born in Scotland (what??) not Surrey ... boo, hiss!! I must admit that I did wonder what the end result of stating the truth of her county allegiances when in Sussex might be ... but by the end was enjoying the cut, thrust and parry ... huzzah!!

I am flattered that you feel I managed to keep "the Ralph bloke" under control. However, I shall have to remember to ensure that the correct calibration of his medication is ensured for the next outing of the show ... it was touch and go ...(joking Ralphie, only joking).

It's a shame that a show like ours really doesn't allow the time to do more than scratch the surface of the subject matter ... no time to talk about her support for the Suffragists, her experiments in ESP, her talented work as an amateur artist (and cartoonist), her concert performances (other than the few we were able to mention),her musical soirees, her work with musical proteges (such as James Campbell MacInnes - who was mentioned ... a talented baritone that she encouraged and mentored , who subsequently emigrated to Canada), no time to develop on her friendships with Vaughan Williams, Kidosn, or Percy Grainger etc etc etc ... the list could be very very long... maybe "The Lucy Show Part 2" beckons in due course?? Anyway, thanks for your kind words - they are much appreciated.
Irene


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Will Fly
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 06:07 AM

Of course she was born in Scotland - told you I had the attention span of a gnat, didn't I? :-)


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Alan Day
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 08:26 AM

As big as that Will? I'm impressed.
Al


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Will Fly
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 08:33 AM

LOL! Just you wait till the next Charlwood singaround... :-)


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Fidjit
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 02:00 AM

Hey Irene hows the leg ?

Quote Irene "scratch the surface of the subject matter"
Hey get back to, "I Love Lucy". "Just Scratching the Surface" is mine.

(grin too you too)

Chas


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 05:09 AM

Leg's fine Chas ... however, I shall have to watch my step today if I go out, as we have over 12" of snow in the middle of town here. Just about to go out with a spade and clear some snow away from the path.


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Fidjit
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 07:48 AM

Yeah saw all that on Sky News.

We have snow here you know. You're just not used to it.

Just go and put the kettle on and play a tune.

Cheers Chas


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Subject: RE: Lucy Broadwood show, Lewes (29 Jan 2009)
From: Surreysinger
Date: 02 Feb 09 - 08:15 AM

LOL!! I know you have snow there ... course I do!! However, I don't do slithering about on ice ... too worried about breaking yet another appendage... I'm still waiting for the third fracture to complete the set!


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