BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 25 Feb 24 - 07:28 AM

The White House Historical Association, established by Jacqueline Kennedy, issues a Christmas tree ornament every year;
the presidents honored, one at a time, on these ornaments
have so far been deceased.

This year's Christmas tree ornament honors Jimmy Carter,
the first living former president to be so honored.

The ornament is in the shape of an anchor,
in tribute to Carter's service in the Navy.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Thompson
Date: 23 Feb 24 - 02:27 AM

Wasn't Carter actually successful in the hostage release, but they were released during Reagan's swearing-in?
Carter is right about Israel; its war has destroyed Gaza's education system; more and more I'm reminded of the actions of the 16th- to 18th-century English in Ireland, where they targeted poets and made all non-English education illegal (resulting in the "hedge schools" in which educated people would secretly teach Irish literature, Latin, Greek and mathematics to pupils, with one child keeping a lookout).
In Gaza, Israeli bombing, sniping, etc has so far killed some 100 academics, hundreds of teachers and thousands of students; this piece is from a couple of weeks ago so the numbers are probably larger.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 18 Feb 24 - 02:41 PM

Jimmy Carter’s Long Goodbye
The former president is on the verge of having spent a year in hospice care, once again confounding expectations in a life that has lasted nearly a century.

It starts:

Practically no one ever thought he would be elected president in the first place. Or that he would forge a landmark treaty in the Middle East. Or that he would win the Nobel Peace Prize. Or that he would beat cancer.

But Jimmy Carter has been confounding expectations throughout a life that has lasted nearly a century. And so he is again, now near the end.

Mr. Carter entered hospice care one year ago Sunday, choosing to forgo further life-prolonging treatment with the intent to return to his simple home in Plains, Ga., to pass his final days in comfort and peace. As it turns out, there have been more final days than he or anyone around him anticipated.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 18 Feb 24 - 02:27 PM

As usual I can't link to the New York Times today,
but their feature article on Jimmy Carter noted that
it is now a year since hospice care was begun.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 30 Nov 23 - 06:37 PM

Did you notice that at the Athens church funeral,
the Carter family wore Hawaiian leis?
Jimmy and Rosalynn Carter were stationed in Hawaii
during his Navy service,
and they made lifelong friends there
who shipped leis to Georgia for the whole family.
Even Jimmy Carter wore one, a vivid red.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Rapparee
Date: 29 Nov 23 - 08:38 PM

Yes, it impressed me. I wonder who will attend Jimmy’s.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 28 Nov 23 - 03:03 PM

Rosalynn's memorial service in Atlanta just ended. It was a beautiful service, respectful, funny, the Bible readings were really short and the stories from friends and loved ones were generous in detail. Jimmy was there in a long chair and I think slept through some of it. They were kind and didn't do any closeups (that I noticed). He's coasting on fumes right now.

Hillary and Bill Clinton were there, as were Joe and Jill Biden. Michelle Obama and Laura Bush attended and surprisingly, Melania was there. Everyone else wore black, Melania wore gray. While several first ladies did real hugs, as did VP Harris, Mrs. Trump did a couple of air kisses. But she did attend. The grandson Jason thanked all of the former first ladies and the current by name, noting that Rosalynn would be pleased they attended. And to Jill and Hillary, "welcome to your lovely husbands."

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Mrrzy
Date: 21 Nov 23 - 11:31 AM

And long may it not arrive.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Nov 23 - 06:31 PM

I am reminded of Stilly's post in August of this year:
when one dies, if the couple is close, the other is soon to follow.
Maybe this is how Rosalynn wished it --
that she would be the first so that
she would not have to grieve her husband's passing.

I hope Mr. Carter's passing is painless and peaceful, when it comes.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Nov 23 - 03:35 PM

Rosalynn died today at age 96. She recently entered hospice (like, last week). Jimmy has been in hospice most of the year.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Nov 23 - 09:03 PM

A Polish friend told me that they have a saying to the effect that when your loved one dies, be extra careful- the departed one wants you to come.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Oct 23 - 11:08 AM

He made it!
Yesterday (Sunday) was Jimmy Carter's 99th birthday.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 09:16 AM

Polio is extremely rare these days and has been eradicated in north and South America and Europe. It's somewhat tenacious in a few countries but even there we're on our way. Some good news yesterday about a second cheap and effective malaria vaccine.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 12:52 PM

Another month has passed, Jimmy has defied expectations. "Maybe it’s the peanut butter ice cream he still enjoys. Or the fact that his first-place Atlanta Braves are cruising toward the playoffs and he wants to see another World Series. Or as many of his loved ones and former advisers suggest, maybe he is just too stubborn to follow anyone else’s timetable."

Jimmy Carter’s Final Chapter: Peanut Butter Ice Cream and His 99th Birthday
Mr. Carter was already the longest-living president in American history, but his staying power even in hospice has captured the imagination of admirers around the world.

“We thought at the beginning of this process that it was going to be in five or so days,” Jason Carter, his grandson, said in an interview, recalling the former president’s decision to check out of the hospital and go into hospice care at his home in Plains, Ga., last February. “I was down there with him in the hospital and then said goodbye. And then we thought it was going to be in that week that it was coming to the end. And it’s just now been seven months.”

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 03:55 PM

I was the plus one guest at the celebration party for the malaria vaccine. There are some other means of eradication that would doom the Anopheles mosquito,

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 07:09 AM

Recently Carter was asked if there was something he still would want to finish in the time he has remaining. He quickly answered
'peace in the Middle East and the end of the Guinea Wirm plague'.
When he began his campaign there were 2 and a half million victims of the worm. Today there are only 6. Only smallpox was the only other plague eradicated.
source: Rachael Maddow

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Ebbie
Date: 20 Nov 23 - 09:03 PM

A Polish friend told me that they have a saying to the effect that when your loved one dies, be extra careful- the departed one wants you to come.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Nov 23 - 06:31 PM

I am reminded of Stilly's post in August of this year:
when one dies, if the couple is close, the other is soon to follow.
Maybe this is how Rosalynn wished it --
that she would be the first so that
she would not have to grieve her husband's passing.

I hope Mr. Carter's passing is painless and peaceful, when it comes.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Nov 23 - 03:35 PM

Rosalynn died today at age 96. She recently entered hospice (like, last week). Jimmy has been in hospice most of the year.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 03:55 PM

I was the plus one guest at the celebration party for the malaria vaccine. There are some other means of eradication that would doom the Anopheles mosquito,

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 09:16 AM

Polio is extremely rare these days and has been eradicated in north and South America and Europe. It's somewhat tenacious in a few countries but even there we're on our way. Some good news yesterday about a second cheap and effective malaria vaccine.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Donuel
Date: 03 Oct 23 - 07:09 AM

Recently Carter was asked if there was something he still would want to finish in the time he has remaining. He quickly answered
'peace in the Middle East and the end of the Guinea Wirm plague'.
When he began his campaign there were 2 and a half million victims of the worm. Today there are only 6. Only smallpox was the only other plague eradicated.
source: Rachael Maddow

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Oct 23 - 11:08 AM

He made it!
Yesterday (Sunday) was Jimmy Carter's 99th birthday.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 21 Sep 23 - 12:52 PM

Another month has passed, Jimmy has defied expectations. "Maybe it’s the peanut butter ice cream he still enjoys. Or the fact that his first-place Atlanta Braves are cruising toward the playoffs and he wants to see another World Series. Or as many of his loved ones and former advisers suggest, maybe he is just too stubborn to follow anyone else’s timetable."

Jimmy Carter’s Final Chapter: Peanut Butter Ice Cream and His 99th Birthday
Mr. Carter was already the longest-living president in American history, but his staying power even in hospice has captured the imagination of admirers around the world.

“We thought at the beginning of this process that it was going to be in five or so days,” Jason Carter, his grandson, said in an interview, recalling the former president’s decision to check out of the hospital and go into hospice care at his home in Plains, Ga., last February. “I was down there with him in the hospital and then said goodbye. And then we thought it was going to be in that week that it was coming to the end. And it’s just now been seven months.”

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Aug 23 - 03:46 PM

Keb noted the passing of Jimmy's nephew. A respected and engaging Carter administration person, Hodding Carter III (no relation to Jimmy) died earlier this year. He was a remarkable journalist and commentator.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 22 Aug 23 - 03:42 PM

Jimmy Carter, 6 Months Into Hospice, Is Still ‘Very Much’ Himself, Grandson Says
He still holds hands with his wife, Rosalynn, their grandson Josh Carter said. The family is making plans for the former president’s 99th birthday in October.

After surviving a series of health crises in recent years, including repeated falls and a bout with the skin cancer melanoma, which spread to his liver and brain, Mr. Carter opted to enter hospice care in February. According to the American Medical Association, hospice care is generally intended to relieve pain and suffering in patients who most likely have six months or less to live.

But Mr. Carter, the longest living president in American history, crossed that threshold on Friday. His family is making plans for his 99th birthday on Oct. 1, and are “surprised and thankful” that it appears they will have the chance to celebrate it, Josh Carter said.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 22 Aug 23 - 03:00 PM

I can't link to it, but the New York Times has
an update on Jimmy Carter,
all I can pull up is the excerpted quote of a grandson saying
"he's still very much himself."

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Aug 23 - 01:41 PM

Also, Jason Carter, the chair of the Carter Center Board,
has expressed sadness on the recent death of
Hugh "Sonny" Carter who was part of the Carter Administration.

(son of Jimmy Carter's first cousin)

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 21 Aug 23 - 01:36 PM

According to NBC News, Rosalynn Carter planned to observe her birthday
by eating cupcakes and peanut butter ice cream
and by releasing butterflies in the home garden.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 19 Aug 23 - 04:24 PM

Rosalynn, who had a birthday this week, 96, has a form of dementia. I don't know how bad it is but she is still at home. I fear that with this close couple that when one goes, the other will soon follow. I've seen it happen with old family friends.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 19 Aug 23 - 03:56 PM

Jimmy Carter has been at home in hospice care for some months now,
and his grandson Josh Carter recently told the press that
it is clear that "we are in the final chapter."

Such things he has lived to see, especially with the Presidency!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 08 Dec 21 - 08:07 PM

And Mr. Carter has now managed to outlive
the man who referred to him as
"chicken-fried McGovern."

Which some people call humor, it sounds hostile to me, actually.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Mar 20 - 11:44 AM

I note that just before ending his presidential campaign,
Pete Buddigieg had one last breakfast meeting with
Mr and Mrs Carter in Georgia.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 29 Feb 20 - 02:16 PM

When you have reached Jimmy Carter's age,
it's a big deal to make it to
one more Leap Year day, yes?
Hope he and his family have a happy one.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 14 Dec 19 - 03:53 PM

Here's wishing him
at least one more Happy Christmas with his family in Georgia.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Dec 19 - 04:53 PM

I remember 'In his heart, he knows your wife'

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Dec 19 - 11:49 AM

"The quid pro quo was not in him."

That quote was printed when
the Oval Office had a Bush in it.
The "him" was Jimmy Carter,
and the person who made the statement was not identified.
The context, during the Bush administration,
was a reminiscence about
President Carter facing off with Congress.

And today, with Congress mobilized for impeachment,
that quote resonates as never before.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 04 Dec 19 - 10:20 AM

I was paying very little attention, those many decades ago,
when the rabbit assault hit the mass media.
So I really didn't bother to find out exactly what they spoke of.
And then Pete Seeger and Arlo Guthrie performed
a joint performance on the Boston Common,
memorable for many reasons -- I was among the multitudes.

Pete Seeger took a breather during the show
and Arlo Guthrie sang Tom Paxton's Bunny Wunny song.
It got plenty of laughs, but Mr. Guthrie was disgruntled
when we failed to sing along on the Bunny Wunny chorus.
I think it was a combination of
embarrassment and never-before-heard-this-silly-song.

Only now am I looking at the summaries in hindsight,
and I see that Jody Powell, talking to the press,
carelessly repeated a remark from Mr. Carter
about something that occurred when Mr. Carter was quite alone.

I always had an impression, from the mass media's massive stench,
that the Secret Service were in the little boat with the President.
More fool me, and
anyway I am no longer so naïve about the press/media.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 03 Dec 19 - 02:11 PM

How did I miss this last month?

women, girls, and climate change

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 02 Dec 19 - 11:00 PM

Talking of Emory University,
when Mr. Carter fell this year and needed attention,
I believe that was the hospital where he was kept under observation.
Since then he has enjoyed Thanksgiving with his family.

Today the reports broke that he is in hospital again --
but if you slow down and read the small print,
it's the hospital nearest Americus, Georgia,
and not
Emory University in Atlanta.
He needs a little attention, but not as serious as last time.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 13 Nov 19 - 03:08 PM

Here is Mr. Carter at Emory University.

Politics, peace and peanut butter

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Donuel
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 07:33 PM

I remember the week after Jimmy left office. Reagan had the solar cells Jimmy had installed from the white house roof ripped down.

I suspect Reagan created some foreign interference, much like Trump, because Ronnie had negotiated the release of the American hostages from Iran
ON THE DAY OF HIS INAUGURATION.

Iran Contra came much later.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 03:49 PM

He was the best president you could ever have had but for external vicissitudes and the "charisma" of the philistine twat who replaced him, the bloke who engineered a horrible and unjust campaign in Central America and who in turn gave succour to Thatcher, who gave succour to Pinochet and who, along with Reagan, set in train the sequence of events that has led us to the ghastly state we are in today. If only things had gone better in 1979/1980 on both sides of the Atlantic...

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: robomatic
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 02:44 PM

I still remember Saturday Night Live where Dan Ackroyd played Jimmy Carter campaigning, emphasis on smile, personality, but no policy. It was a level of lampooning that incorporated a humor and even gentility that wee no longer experience in political life, nor Saturday Night Live.

Carte Ford Debate

President Carter burning a dollar

The genuine Jimmy Carter has been a beneficent presence in American life outside of politics and a reminder of a better way.

And, of course, he challenged Homer Simpson to a duel

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: keberoxu
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 12:54 PM

An earlier post on this thread, by
Mudcat's late lamented katlaughing,
quoted Paul P. Harris,

comparing the well-paved highway to war with
the wilderness in between us and peace.

Does anyone else here remember Thomas the Rhymer?

O see ye not yon narrow road
So thick beset wi' thorns and briars?
That is the Path of Righteousness,
Though after it but few inquires.

And see ye not yon braid, braid road
That lies across the lily leven?
That is the Path of Wickedness,
Though some call it the road to Heaven . . .

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 12:15 PM

Each president, when they enter into office, is asked to plan how they want their funeral to run. Jimmy's will be modest when the time comes, but there will be enough pomp and circumstance to put the Orange one into apoplexy and try to make it about himself. It would be best if Jimmy sticks around until there is a well-balanced 46 to show the appropriate sadness when the time does arrive.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: Mrrzy
Date: 12 Nov 19 - 10:10 AM

Don't die, Jimmy, not yet!

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: GUEST,Patsy
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 03:08 AM

I know back in the day Jimmy Carter and his family have been ridiculed a lot but now I respect him for the way he remains involved with things that are important to him instead of going off spending the rest of his days playing golf. I don't know of any politicians here in the UK who remain involved with humanitarian issues unless they keep quiet about it. In the UK they tend to write books and dish the dirt about others instead of doing something useful.

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: GUEST,Guest from Sanity
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 02:19 AM

"When Carter was president, I could walk from one end of Walnut Street to the other without being panhandled."

It was the times, not because Carter was president. Frankly, he sucked!

GfS

Subject: RE: BS: Lucky to have Jimmy Carter
From: LadyJean
Date: 25 Nov 10 - 01:35 AM

When Carter was president, I could walk from one end of Walnut Street to the other without being panhandled.

I went to church, when I went, with a dollar for the plate, and nothing else, except Kleenex and antacids, both for my own use.

Now, I'll be panhandled at least twice no matter what city street I walk down.

Being older, I go to church more regularly, besides the money for the plate, I lug a bag of groceries for the food pantry, and some item for the shelter they run for homeless men.

In 1980, I voted for John Anderson. At least once a week, I kick myself good and hard for having done so.