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BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????

wysiwyg 01 Feb 09 - 01:47 PM
John on the Sunset Coast 01 Feb 09 - 01:41 PM
SINSULL 01 Feb 09 - 01:40 PM
wyrdolafr 01 Feb 09 - 01:34 PM
GUEST,Big Norman Voice 01 Feb 09 - 01:29 PM
wysiwyg 01 Feb 09 - 01:25 PM
McGrath of Harlow 01 Feb 09 - 01:17 PM
jacqui.c 01 Feb 09 - 01:15 PM
Stilly River Sage 01 Feb 09 - 01:00 PM
Leadfingers 01 Feb 09 - 12:50 PM
Leadfingers 01 Feb 09 - 12:49 PM

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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:47 PM

Wonder why she has to involve her patients in her praying. Why not just pray for all of them?

Because some people get really pissed off if you do NOT ask first.

~S~


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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:41 PM

If this Jew were to ever have need of that nurse, I would think it a loving kindness if she prayed for my recovery...even if she invoked the name of Jesus. I would pray for her, if the need arose, without mentioning Jesus, and suspect she would be grateful for the prayer.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: SINSULL
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:40 PM

Wonder why she has to involve her patients in her praying. Why not just pray for all of them?


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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: wyrdolafr
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:34 PM

Now whilst I think there's something to 'positive thinking' in recovery and prayer can possibly be attached to that, I personally don't want that from a nurse. I have religious beliefs myself, so it's not as if I'm unsympathetic from in perhaps framing or attributing 'positive thinking' towards a more supernatural outlook.

However, the woman in the story is a nurse, a medical practitioner. She's trained an employed in a particular field and praying for patients extends what she's actually meant to do. If she wanted to administer religious support of some kind, perhaps she needs to swap fields and become a hospital chaplain or something. Likewise, I'd baulk at the idea of a hospital chaplain offering to change my catheter or remove some stitches. I know it's well-meant but it's not what they're for.

I find the idea that the prayer-cards interesting too. I like the craft or self-publishing aspect of it, but is it really any different from me handing out pieces of paper explaining how Interplanetary Sky Brothers are coming to save us all and we have to tune our mind to a particular frequency so they can acknowledge we are ready to be saved when the earth dies in 2012? Other than one belief is more familiar than the other?

Also, I'm aware from personal experience that some - I repeat some - Christians have a problem knowing where something like this stops and proselytising starts.

I can understand why her faith is important to her but like everything else, people have to accept that what's important/interesting/necessary to one person is going to be superfluous/boring/unnecessary and irritating to someone else and you run the risk on being called on it, particularly when you broach the subject in an environment where it's not necessarily relevant or applicable.

If this was a first time offence, then I'd see the suspension as being unreasonable, but it seems she'd been warned previously. If I take home a draw-full of stationery from an office once, I might get away with, do it twice and I'd expect to be in serious trouble.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: GUEST,Big Norman Voice
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:29 PM

Well in a world where Christians are jailed, or condemned to death for trying to convert Moslems, it seems a bit apposite that this should occur.
Someone on the radio today said. 'I wonder what the reaction would have been, had the nurse been a Moslem?'


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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: wysiwyg
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:25 PM

It might surprise some folks to know that proselytizing in that fashion bothers me, as well. The doctrinal divisions can get pretty complicated and not all "believers" have learned yet how to discuss their faith in a mature, relaxed fashion. This lady sounds like an example-- hasn't learned yet how to be a committed believer in the workplace in a Grace-ious manner. And hasn't learned how to follow guidelines given AND believe. She created a battle (and a barrier) where none was necessary, which hain't Scriptural, neither.

~Susan


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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:17 PM

Here you are

Sounds pretty dodgy on the part of the employers, though it's worth bearing in mind that it might not be as straightforward as that report presents it.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: jacqui.c
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:15 PM

Mrs Petrie said: "I stopped handing out prayer cards after that but I found it more and more difficult [not to offer them]. My concern is for the person as a whole, not just their health.

"I was told not to force my faith on anyone but I could respond if patients themselves brought up the subject


Looks like she didn't stick to the guidelines the second time. I would agree that she did not act professionally - bringing your own personal beliefs to the workplace can make other people feel uncomfortable if they do not agree.

If she was so concerned about the patients why not just pray for them on her own and without their knowledge? Then there would be no problem.

I had to sit in a car with an instructor who spent most of the time telling me all about hs religious beliefs and how much it would improve my life. Needless to say I didn't use him again.


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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: Stilly River Sage
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 01:00 PM

Here it is.

Baptists around here don't know how to keep their religion to themselves. They seem to justify their existence according to how many others they can influence or bring into the fold. It's pernicious. I can imagine that if a patient feels like a captive audience and someone does that, it can be annoying. Or frightening. They might wonder if they'll get the same standard of care of they reject this person's religious ministrations.

SRS


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Subject: RE: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 12:50 PM

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Subject: BS: Nurse Suspended for praying ????
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Feb 09 - 12:49 PM

I post this without any comment

Today's paper


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