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Subject: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: brad3555@yahoo.com
Date: 27 Jun 99 - 02:14 AM

Please, I am after the lyrics to Sailors Hornpipe also known as College hornpipe, I think. I am after the bawdy version (Filthy words version).

I would prefer to be emailed at:

brad3555@yahoo.com

Thanks.

Brad.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Barry Finn
Date: 27 Jun 99 - 10:19 AM

Hi Brad, I would prefere not to post to e-mail because others here would miss on content that may be of interest to them. SO saying that, I've been looking for words to the Sailor's Hornpipe for a few decades & have only heard & seen one verse that's found in Doeflinger's "Shantymen & Shantyboys". If you've heard/seen more please do tell. Here's what I've seen/heard.

We'll have another drink 'fore the boat shoves off
We'll have another drink 'fore the boat shoves off
We'll go to Mother Rackets' & we'll pawn our monkey jackets
And we'll have another drink 'fore the boat shoves off

Here are a couple of verses I wrote because I couldn't stand to sing such a great song for such a short time.

We'll go see Iron Peg & get our mainsheets hauled (2x)
Before we go to sea we'll take a girl upon our knee
And we'll go see Iron Peg & get our mainsheets hauled

We've been on the beach just a day to long (2x)
From everyone we get a curse cause there's no money in our purse
And we've been on the beach just a day too long

After a week at sea we'll be longing for a port(2x)
We'll dream of feather beds & wish that we were dead
After a week at sea we'll be longing for a port

Barry


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Barry Finn
Date: 27 Jun 99 - 12:09 PM

I hae no idea how that bold print came about in the above post. Barry


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Steve Parkes
Date: 28 Jun 99 - 07:57 AM

Ah, you missed the r out of <br>, like you missed off the < on the second bold line! These cheap computers are a real curse, aren't they!

Steve


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Murray on Salt Spring
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 02:47 AM

All I've heard is:

Do your balls hang low?
Can you swing 'em to and fro?
Can you tie them in a knot,
Can you tie them in a bow?
Can you swing 'em to the ceiling
With a free and easy feeling,
Did you ever catch your ballocks
In a rat-trap, O?

-Heard in the Royal Navy, 1952, from a public school boy from Yorkshire.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From:
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 03:06 AM

There are some additional verses to that above in Ed Cray's 'The Erotic Muse' 2nd ed., p. 336, 1992. He notes the tune "Sailor's Hornpipe" for it and also "The Parade of the Wooden Soldiers" for the song.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Walrus
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 02:39 PM

Do your balls hang low, Can you swing them to and fro, Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow? Do you get a funny feeling When you bang'm on the ceiling? Oh you'll never make a soldier 'til your balls hang low.

Do they itch when it's hot? Can you put them in a pot? Do they clink when you talk? Do they jingle when you walk? Can you sling them o'er you shoulder like a rotten bloody soldier? Oh you'll never make a soldier 'til your balls hang low.

Learned from my late father, a pre-hostilities WWII conscript.

Regards

Walrus


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: gargoyle
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 01:08 PM

The testicle tunes you refer to above? Are they "Sailor's Hornpipe" or "Zip Coon" aka "Turkey in the Straw?"

In the states it is the latter.

You have some GREAT lyrics there. Thanks for posting.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Walrus
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 02:04 PM

I've just been reminded of another set of lyrics, this time from the Great War; I will apologise in advance, but I can't seem to get lines to break where I want them to.

Tiddly-winks old man, Get a woman if you can, If you can't get a woman do without old man, 'cos 'til the Rock of Gibralter takes a flying leap at Malta, You'll never get your bollocks in a bully beef can.

total nonsense, I'll admit, but it swings along.

Regards

Walrus


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: gargoyle
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 02:17 AM

Walrus....a nice little ditty. THANX!!! I'll add it to my collection.

It is SURPRISING what chunks of the frozen waste-land cleave off when they a prodded by the past.


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Subject: RE: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Murray on SS
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 02:40 AM

Jerry Silverman's "The Dirty Song Book" (NY, 1982), p. 51, has a "Continental soldier" verse, and a chorus, "Ting-a-ling, God damn" etc. He also adds additional words for the couplet in the middle, "Do they make a lusty clamor when you hit them with a hammer" and the like (six given). He doesn't say anything about his version (one of my great criticisms about the book). The tune he prints is the "belly dance" tune, in sol-fa something like l,t,/d, t, l, l,t,/ dm t,d l, etc.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: GUEST,banjodick
Date: 22 Feb 16 - 05:37 PM

Tiddle de Winks young man, get a woman if you can if you can't get a woman get a clean old man when the Rock of Gibralter takes a flying fuck to Malta we'll all get laid before the sun goes down!


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Dave Hanson
Date: 23 Feb 16 - 03:15 AM

From Ed Cray's ' Bawdy Ballads '

Ting a ling goddam find a woman if you can,
If you cant find a woman find a clean old man,
If your ever in Gibralter try a flying fuck at Walter,
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low.

Do your balls hang low can you heave them to and fro,
Can you tie 'em in a knot can you tie 'em in a bow,
Can you throw them o'er your shoulder like a continental soldier,
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low.

Dave H


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Jim Carroll
Date: 23 Feb 16 - 05:00 AM

or
Tiddley-wink old man, fuck a lemon if you can,
If you can't fuck a lemon, fuck and old tin can.
Jim Carroll


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Feb 16 - 06:20 AM

Slight drift: but I have also heard the "Balls hang low" words to an extended version of another, oriental sounding, tune, sometimes used for snake-charming iirc, which I recall from childhood or early adolescence as setting for the words

In the South of France
Where they do the hula prance
They sing "Nellie put your belly close to mine" (or "Annie put your fanny close to mine"


Can anyone remind me of the name of that tune?

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Ged Fox
Date: 23 Feb 16 - 06:32 AM

Or "All the girls of France do the belly-wobble dance
All the girls from Ceylon do the same with nothing on" as we used to sing in the junior school playground.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: GUEST,Lighter
Date: 23 Feb 16 - 07:36 AM

"The Streets of Cairo, or The Poor Little Country Maid," by James Thornton (1895).

It is claimed that the melody was played during the World's Columbian Exhibition of 1893, in Chicago, to accompany the then-scandalous belly dance of the performer known as "Little Egypt" (the tune is also called "Little Egypt's Dance"), but I've seen no proof of this.

It is entirely possible, however, that Thornton (composer of "My Sweetheart's the Man in the Moon," "When You were Sweet Sixteen," etc., merely arranged and expanded the belly-dance tune (allegedly of Moroccan origin) and added his own lyrics.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Feb 16 - 08:18 AM

Many thanks, Lighter. That's the one. I found a performance on youtube. Also an informative wikipedia entry: qv anyone who may be interested.

Thanks for help & info

≈M≈


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: MGM·Lion
Date: 23 Feb 16 - 08:28 AM

& see

http://www.gildedserpent.com/articles3/streets-of-cairo.htm


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: GUEST,Frank
Date: 23 Feb 16 - 10:29 PM

The only verse I know:


We'll have another drink 'fore the boat shoves off
We'll have another drink 'fore the boat shoves off
Said the Captain of the whaler as he whacked it up the sailor
we'll have another drink 'fore the boat shoves off


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Will Fly
Date: 24 Feb 16 - 04:15 AM

Tiddleywinks, old man, get a woman if you can.
If you can't get a woman than you'll have to get a man.
When the Rock of Gibraltar takes a flying leap at Malta,
Then you'll never catch your bollocks in a corned beef can.

(Just a variant).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: GUEST
Date: 31 Jul 20 - 07:01 PM

Tiddly winks young man
get a woman if you can
if you can't get a woman
get a clean old man

From the shores of sunny Malta
to the island of Gibralter
you can carry round your balls, sir
in an old tin can

Do your balls hang high
do your balls hang low
can you tie 'em in a knot
can you tie 'em in a bow

Can you throw 'em on your shoulder
like a bloody British soldier
Can you do the double shuffle
when they're swingin' slow

From the songbook of Professor Mark Linenthal, SF State University


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: GUEST,Jerry
Date: 01 Aug 20 - 05:27 AM

Here’s the version that Ronnie Barker came up with, plus a couple of verses I added to pad it out a bit (note A part and B part of the tune once only):

He’s a naval man, you can tell it by his walk
He’s a naval man, when you listen to him talk
And the drunken things he’ll utter, as he’s lying in the gutter
You can bet your bread and butter, he’s a naval man.
If he reeks of rum and winkles, he’s a naval man
If his kit bag’s full of wrinkles, he’s a naval man
If he hums a saucy ditty, and he tells you that you’re pretty
You can bet your Bristol City, he’s a naval man.

He’s a naval man, of the ocean going sort
He’s a naval man with a girl in every port
You will see him grab and hug her, and then take her on his lugger
He’s a dirty rotten bosun, he’s a naval man.
If he takes you in his rowboat on the Serpentine
And he tries to get his hand upon your Plimsoll Line
If he grabs you without warning, you can bet the skin you’re born in
You’ll be scuppered in the morning, he’s a naval man.

He’s a naval man, and as wanton as they come
He’s a naval man, and he loves his tot of rum
When he’s had his daily ration, just beware his seaman’s passion
Lest you learn the Bristol fashion, he’s a naval man.
If he tells you he’s a captain, and he works for Cunard
You can tell him that we all do in that regard
But he’s probably just a coxon, so ladies keep your frocks on
You can bet he’ll keep his socks on, he’s a naval man.

He’s a naval man, and he certainly is no gent
He’s a naval man, with a nautical like bent
Any bottle he can swig it, any vessel he can rig it
Packet, smack or frigate, he’s a naval man.
If he promises exotic spices, silk and sugar
He is not what he appears, but a thieving little buccaneer
If he takes you on his tanker, and he tries to weigh his anchor
Don’t trust the wayward warrior, he’s a naval man.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Bawdy words to Sailors Hornpipe?
From: Steve Gardham
Date: 02 Aug 20 - 09:14 AM

Superb stuff!


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