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Subject: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,bet
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 09:21 PM

Hi! I just got off the phone with kat, my sister, she suggested I try here for info. As some of you know I'm a retired, now working again teacher, looking for a small laptop/notebook computer and am debating between the Mac Book or a dell. I know little about the dell. I've always used Mac-Apple in school. I was looking at the little 13 inch Mac Book, with an educators discout, that starts at $949.00. I looked at all the specs but they mean little to me. Anyone have any experience or advise on one of these?
Also, do you know what the iWork is and is it worth $44.00?
Any help would be really great, computer tech is not my thing.
bet


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Amos
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 10:02 PM

1. My opinion is that a fully set up MAc will give you much more satisfaction than a Dell which would probably come with Vista on it.

2. iWork is the suite of basic office tools, comprising iPages (word processing) Numbers (spreadssheets and graphs) and a presentation program like Powerpoint.

These can put out Office-compatible files and open Office files, and are generally easier to learn and use than Office.



A


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: mark gregory
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 10:29 PM

iWork is a useful set of programs

Pages is a new kind of publishing program for making everything from magazines to posters to brochures. I recently used it to make a professional looking DVD cover and booklet

Numbers is a spreadsheet that will import and export to excel but is much less boated than excel has become

Keynote makes polished presentations and will import and export to Power Point, slide shows and the like


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Nickhere
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 10:52 PM

Hi Bet, you'll get great satisfaction out of using any Apple Mac. The layout is a bit different to Windows, but once you get used to it, you'll never go back, consigning Windows to where it belongs in the late Jurassic age. It is far more user friendly, click and drag for most things.

The 13 inch macbook sounds a tiny bit expensive, though it depends on what's under the hood. I think you might even be able to get a MacBook 15 inch for a hundred or two more. Doesn't sound like much difference, but for graphics, can't beat a bigger screen.

Quick glossary -

Processor - this is the chip that does all the calculations and 'thinking'. The faster, the better: the more 'balls it can juggle in the air at a time without dropping any'. Measured in Hertz. Most MacBooks have processors of about minimum 2GHz, which is fairly fast.

Hard Drive - the memory bank, how much info you can store. Measured in bytes - usually millions of bytes these days (Gigabytes - GB) Typical hard drives range from 40 to 320 GB. Don't forget that the faster the memory disc in the hard drive spins, the faster you can store and retrieve data. If you are getting a new mac, I'd suggest going for the 7,200rpm option instead of the 5,400rpm, if it's available. You'll have less freezes and time for opening files will be shorter.

Processor memory - as well as needing to be fast, the more temporary memory a processor has, the more info it can handle at a time without having to save to the Hard Drive. Most Macs come with about 2GB of this kind of memory, i'd recommend upping it to 4GB if you can. The extra 2GB will prove their worth when you want to keep several programs open at the same time, or use graphics- heavy programs or want to edit your home movies.

These are the most important technical aspects of buying any computer and it's worth getting the best specs you can afford, as it saves getting frustrated later on, and it's always more expensive and hassle to try and upgrade them within the same computer later on. If you plan never to use the computer for anything more than writing letters and checking mails though, it might not be worth adding the higher-end customizations.

OS X - The Mac uses an operating system called OS X (the X stands for '10') which is totally different to PC Windows. This means that programs for PC won't run on Mac, so when you are in the store and you see a new game or whatever, you need to check it says "Mac' or "PC / Mac" before you buy it. Unfortunately there are fewer programs for, and they more expensive than PC, but the gap is rapidly closing and most of the important programs like Microsoft Office have been available for Mac for some time as well. Any Powerpoint stuff or Word stuff you do on Mac will be compatible with similar PC programs, so you can use them on both computers. Mac even has a thing called 'Virtual PC' - basically it's a program that sets up a compartment within the Mac's memory and installs a Windows-like program so that you can run Windows programs on the Mac. I never bother with it - the Mac versions are better anyway.



Macs are also the industry standard for graphics programs, they are streets ahead of PC in this regard, plus they are generally more reliable, the 'BMW' of computers.

iWorks - The iLife'08 programs aren't great, sadly, the new version of the movie editing software (iLife Movie '08) is a dreadful regression form the previous version, but happily it's not too hard to find the older version iMovieHD which will run fine on your MacBook and does a great job of movie editing with minimum fuss. iWork is part of the same platform - generally it's crap in my opinion. You'd be better off spending about 50 dollars to get the Microsoft Office for Macintosh.

One thing to note - while PCs import movie and camera files through a USB port, the Mac uses a thing called Firewire or Firewire800. It's still basically a cable to connect the camera to the computer, but just has slightly different connectors. You might also find yourself having to buy a few additional cables and adaptors in order to connect your Mac to the average projector. Also when buying hardware (external hard drives, printers and scanners) check that they are compatible with Mac OS X. Most are, nowadays, but sometimes companies forget to include this info in their 'minimum specifications required' panel on the box, so you can ask them directly.

But once you get a Mac, you'll find the experience so pleasant compared to PC you'll never look back. You've had some experience with Macs already, the latest generation are a joy to use.

There are loads of websites reviewing Mac products as well, have a glance over some of the customer reviews. Feel free as well to PM me or ask anything more about Macs if you feel something isn't covered above.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: robomatic
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 11:11 PM

I am not disagreeing with any of the above. Since you have familiarity with Macs that is a powerful inducement to buy one for yourself. I agree that they are more user friendly than PCs.

The main reason to go with a PC would be COST. My last PC laptop, purchased on sale, was $399. And I've been happy with it. It was NOT a Dell, it was an Acer. Also, I already had a valid copy of Microsoft Office, which would have been an additional cost.

You mainly want something you are going to use a lot, because in a couple of years it will be superannuated.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: katlaughing
Date: 07 Feb 09 - 11:40 PM

Ha! In this case, I am happy to say, "Hey, Sis, told ya so!" I knew you guys would come in with good advice! Thanks, ya'll!!!

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Genie
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 12:41 AM

I'll get back to ya soon, guys.   
Right now I'm busy playing (working, etc.) with my 2008 MacBook.



It's quite wonderful and quite addictive.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: peregrina
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 03:46 AM

If you get a Mac, check out MUGs (mac user groups)--an amazing source of information and support from other users. --Since most are chiefly online, you can join one that's not in your immediate region.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: olddude
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:10 AM

I never owned one myself, but I know of no person who isn't completely happy with the thing once they do own one.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:28 AM

For music and graphics the Mac Book Pro (IMHO) is unbeatable. And, yes, it is pricey compared to an equivalent PC, but you gets what you pay for. Bundled with the OS is the iLife suite of programmes which included, when I got mine, Garageband, iPhoto,iChat, iDVD and iMovie. The shipped version of iMovie is not a patch on the previous version - iMovie HD. Apple have acknowledged that by making iMovie HD available as a free download.

I've used Macs since the old SE30 days and they are superbly thought-out machines.

Now - Steve Jobs - where's my free promo Mac...? :-)


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,Mac the knife
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:42 AM

iLife 09 is out now. It claims to be wonderful, but then it would, wouldn't it.

Instead of iWork you can get OpenOffice for zero dollars - compatible with everything. If you don't like it you can uninstall it and get all your money back (snigger).


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:50 AM

Hi Bet -

Yep, add me to all the happy Maccies. Nice to see everybody again (hi you guys) - no doubt Andrez and Rowan will be checking in before too long.

iWork is sort of the Apple equivalent to Microsoft's Office Suite. I think Pages is WONDERFUL and wish that it, and not Word, was the industry standard for word processors.   

One other thing you should check out - everybody else take note too - is a fantastic text programme called Scrivener, which will only run on a Mac. It's for large and complex written projects such as a novel, research paper, biography, or anything which requires a lot of note-taking and information processing, where you don't want to be required to think or work in straight lines. I find it invaluable and urge you to take a look at the website, which also has a friendly online users' forum. The whole thing is administered by the man who invented this programme (based in the UK), who is very approachable and hands-on; so you're not dealing with some cold impersonal corporation. The programme is Scrivener and the website is called Literature and Latte - do go check it out. The fact that I first read about it not from an advert but from an article in The Author (British writers' union trade mag) by an enthusiastic private user who was not being paid to endorse it speaks volumes.

http://www.literatureandlatte.com/

I don't believe in Windows-bashing (I have a PC too) but another thing to think about is that the Microsoft computers are undergoing something of a turbulent transition at the moment because of their operating system. You'll probably have to buy one with Vista, which a huge number of users are unhappy with. So unhappy that M$ has now released Windows 7 in beta (a trial period to indentify bugs & problems) but any new OS will have teething troubles so I think the headaches are going to continue for some time yet. I love my XP but generally it is a bad idea to cling onto old software because it becomes obsolete. Waiting for the new system (Windows 7 which isn't even officially out yet) to be released and then settle down means - what? - a couple of years yet? - and I personally wouldn't gamble on Vista unless you know from experience that you're satisfied with it. The Mac OS (which also had some initial woes when it debuted) is now functioning smoothly. This is another point to consider when trying to make a decision.

Of course the best thing about getting a Mac is then you can come talk to us about it in Mudcat   ;-)


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:52 AM

PS: The Open Office word processor is very good for a freebie, but doesn't compare.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Peter T.
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 05:24 AM

My whole life is a 13inch Mac, except at work which is a stupid pig of a PC -- I use both, and trust me, go with the Mac. Simple, seamless.

Keynote (part of iWorks) is a really terrific presentation package -- again, better than Powerpoint, and it exports to Powerpoint, so you can basically work with other systems.

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 06:43 AM

I agree with the above recommendations! Mac computers have a great edge over the ordinary PC.

Enjoy!

Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 06:56 AM

Much more internet-secure too. Owing to the Mac's internal architecture it's a lot harder to "catch" malware because it usually would have to be deliberately installed by the owner, requiring a user password.

This is not to say they are invulnerable, and the bad guys are getting more interested in Macs as their market share increases. But they're still a lot safer than the giant security swiss-cheese that is Windows. There is a Mac anti-virus programme available, but even the dealers in the shop, who stood to make money from selling me one, said I didn't need it. Apple keeps us regularly supplied with security updates as the need arises, and I've never had any problems whatsoever.

(Hope our Maccie friends Down Under are not suffering from those horrible fires...)


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Tootler
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 11:18 AM

You could, of course, consider Linux. Much more of a DIY world, though there are excellent user forums. I am typing this on an Acer Aspire One Net Book which came with Linux installed and I am most impressed. It makes me realise just how sluggish my WinXP machine is.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Alice
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 11:21 AM

Get the Mac. I use my MacBook for everything, work and personal fun stuff. You won't regret it. It is powerful, reliable, and very portable.

Alice


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Amos
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 11:40 AM

Bonnie:

I am a Happy Scrivener user, too!! It has made all the difference.



I am delighted to see all this good cheer on the Mac user community here.

There was a time when I was often a small voice alone on the subject. Agreement is heartwarming. Even if everyone is Thinking Different! :>)


A


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 11:51 AM

Mac...
http://www.apple.com/startpage/


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,bet
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 12:15 PM

Wow! What great tips and thanks for helping make up my mind. Siince I have taken 3 or 4 courses in the last 30 or so years on the use of Mac in school I was leaning that way but my kids weren't sure that was how I should go since they seldom got to use one. This was before computer labs in the schools. It was great to see some familar names on the responses and also meet some new ones. Thank you all for the great tips and suggestions. I'm keeping them all just in case. bet


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Gervase
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 03:15 PM

Good for you - after more than 20 years on Macs, I wouldn't want to have to use a PC for my important stuff. Go for it (and, if you really feel you have to, the modern Macs can run Windows anyway)


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 03:29 PM

OS X...
http://www.apple.com/macosx/guidedtour/
And, you get GarageBand, your own Recording Studio...BR


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Nickhere
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:10 PM

BTW Bet, there's another handy feature macs have - you can connect two together to easily transfer info etc., You get a Firewire and plug both ends into both macs, then turn on one and let it start up. Once done, turn on the second one and hold down the 'T' key on the keyboard and keep it held down until you see a kind of big 'Y' appear on that macs screen - this is the Firewire symbol. Now the second mac has basically become like an external hard drive to the first one, which saves loads of time when transferring information files etc., between them, especially graphics / video which are quite large. So if someone else in your family, or a friend has one, you can hook them together. Since my wife has one too, we occasionally use each other's macs to back up data if we are doing any re-installment of start-up CDs etc., where data might get lost or damaged.

Garageband is very useful as mentioned above, and you can also get Audacity etc., - there's been a lot about that on other threads about converting old vinyl to CD. To do that you'll also need a thing called the iMic which is basically an in-line adapter for audio inputs. It generally retails for about 20 or 30 dollars. I've used garageband to record my guitar then added lead over the rhythm, or say another instrument, like a mandolin. Obviously it's not a recording studio but it gives you a general idea of the sound and allows you to experiment.

Bonnie Shaljean - thanks for the tip on Scrivener - it looks really interesting - on my way to check it out now.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:31 PM

Not Dell... never Dell... I am and have ever been in Dell hell. At home and at work.

If I have to lie, if I have to steal, if I have to cheat my next laptop will be a MAC... As god as my witness I will never get programme crash, and screen freeze again.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Andrez
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:38 PM

Just one comment on the post by Robomatic re the issue of "COST" between Macs and PC's. You need to think of cost in terms of the initial outlay PLUS the on costs.

The on-costs for a PC can include any of the following: cost of downloading interminable Win XP or Vista updates, cost of purchase, download and continual updating of virus/intenet security packages plus the "free" ones like spybot and adaware, costs of time down and or loss of data if a virus or trojan or other malaware gets past all these defences, costs of frustration and anger with the so called Tech support lines provided by the likes of Microsoft, Symantec etc,

I could go on, but the bottom line is that yes the Dell may be cheaper initially but factoring in some of the hidden expense makes the Mac a very good buy indeed.

Cheers,

Andrez

PS: Oh yes and did I mention the frustration and annoyances built in to Microsofts Vista OS and Office 2007 as detailed in other recent Mudcat posts?


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Rowan
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 04:41 PM

Greetings Bonnie et al.

Bet, unless you're deeply enamoured of esoteric programs such as those that do GIS, you're probably better off with a Mac. For some specific purposes Windows may well be the go but for graphics and audio the Macs are easier to control, in my experience. My Macbook is now my main machine; although I occasionally have to use a Windows machine at work I'm more productive with the Mac.

If your training was on the older operating system (9) you'll notice a few changes, most of them for the better. Because of the way I use mine, with frequent backing up to an isolated hard drive, I've been happy with OSX 10.4.whatever ("Tiger" to those with feline interests) and have not yet seen the need to go to OSX 10.5.xx ("Leopard", ditto). Where I work, all the MFDs (Multi Failure Function Devices - commonly required to do printing, faxing, copying & scanning) came with Windows drivers but no Mac drivers. The suppliers got their arms twisted and complied but all the Macs using Leopard are still having trouble.

That's the only drawback I've found with Macs; hardware developers (mobile phones, GPSs, data loggers etc) where the main business isn't computer connectivity but is an "add on" commonly regard Windows as sufficient for their market and leave Macs out of the loop. Of course, if you want to show off and become a Unix nerd, Macs have Unix under everything they run so you could do everything Unix if you wanted.

I'm told that the very latest Macbooks don't have Firewire connectors and use USB ports and connectors instead; I don't know the truth about this but Firewire is heaps quicker at transferring data than USB.

Have fun.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,bet
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 06:39 PM

Once again THANKS! A special thanks to Nickhere and Rowan. I ordered the Mac and can hardly wait! No later than Feb. 17th they said but probably much sooner. Things are slow up here sometimes so I'll just enjoy it when it gets here. All the little tips will be a great help. I'm sure I'll be refering back to this thread often. Also Kat, thanks for thinking of this. I love the Mudcat and visit but seldom post anymore. Take care all of you and thanks, I'll keep checking. bet


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 07:06 PM

GARAGEBAND...IS a Recording Studio. And provided that you have taken the time to study the incredible capacity of what this tool can do, you will remain ignorant of what Mac has done for you.

At it's simpler levels, it provides you with the tools to experiment with music creation.

But then, add a proper Recording Interface like the PreSonus Firebox, good Mics, Synths, and
other external instruments, and you have a fierce puppy of a Recording Studio that is limited only by your talent and imagination.

I will relate one of my discussions with the guys from Apple who recently visited Montreal. "It's all there for you..", they said. But ya gotta "read the manual" so to speak...
http://www.apple.com/ilife/garageband/what-is-garageband.html
bob

From there, you have a lotta choices to make. But check out Logic Express8/Logic Studio...World Class stuff...BR


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 07:15 PM

Mac101/GarageBand
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2510


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 07:24 PM

One more thing...(I can hear the Cult of Mac laughing...)
http://www.apple.com/pro/profiles/paulvandyk/?sr=hotnews
O.K, O.K. ENOUGH already!!! Hope all this posting gets your creative juices flowing...
I will now shut up...
bob


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 07:37 PM

Congratulations on your choice, and may you have many happy years of uninterrupted work and play! My first Mac was eight or nine years old before it began to fail (which it did slowly and gracefully, allowing me plenty of time to get the hard drive backed up. Its successors are all still working. I keep the G3 machine to run old software and use the G4 laptop to access internet etc. As that machine is now more than four years old, I have been looking out for ways to safeguard the thousands of lyric files and photograps I have accumulated. An external hard drive was my first choice, but I have also been scanning eBay recently to find something that would provide back-up should the lap-top fail. Various G4 processors are available, eMacs from £50, G4 Powermac tower units from £50-£100 and upwards, Mac Minis from £150-£200, any of which would be capable of doing anything the lap-top could manage.

I wasn't aware of the firewire method of linking computers, I shall give that a try tomorrow. An ethernet hub is a very cheap alternative.

For backing up smaller amounts of data, USB sticks are invaluable (and increasing in capacity all the time).

Good Luck!


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Nickhere
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 08:04 PM

Congrats, Bet, I'm sure you'll love it!

Ross - I (think) I have one of the latest Macs (MacBookPro running Sabre-Toothed Cat or whatever the latest OSX is) and it does have a Firewire port. It's a 9-pin port though, rather than the 6-pin ports you find on older MacBooks and iBooks. So I need to buy a few new Firewire cables - nothing's perfect, though I gather these Firewires are very fast. The USB ports are no slouches either provided they're USB 2. The older Macs were USB 1 and these were painfully slow.

Ethenet is good if you want to operate two computers at same time, for example multiplayer shooter games etc., But you need to set up the ethernet connection and it takes a bit of time. the Firewire thing is just for accessing data on one machine from another, without any need for special set up. The second Mac should appear on the desktop of the first one as a Hard Drive icon (usually orange). But bear in mind an older iBook won't be able to use a newer Macbook as an external drive, though it should work the other way round.

Bob - I must check Garagband out more so. It's my impression though that to get the most of it you need some kind of hardware such as a plug in USB keyboard etc., Otherwise how do you effectively use instruments like Grand Piano without writing the song note by note?


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Amos
Date: 08 Feb 09 - 11:08 PM

I am currently working up a presentation on Garage Band '09 for the ocal Mac user group.

I am blown away by how much this one application offers the musician.

It's all under the hood, and easily available--back up rhythms and instruments, orchestras, loops, filters, equalizers, effects...everything you need. You can even play the instruments by keyboard so you can get away without a MIDI keyboard if you need to.


A


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Stu
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 04:14 AM

Stick to the true path brother!

MacBooks are powerful enough these days to handle even heavy graphics jobs. As a graphic designer I often do full-on motion graphics pieces on my MacBook, as well as video editing etc.

In many ways my MacBook Pro is one of the best Macs I have ever had (and I started on the Apple II - pre-Mac).

Also, Garageband alone is worth the price of iWork.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 10:58 AM

Good for you, Sis! These guys have almost convinced me to want a Mac someday! I knew Amos would be the first one in here, but I had no idea there were so many Mac users...kind of a Mac Attack, eh?!**bg**

Looking forward to your faster access AND more emails.:-)

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,Bob Ryszkiewicz
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 11:09 AM

Nickhere: Time to study/research GarageBand....I have 2 Synths/Controllers running through a PreSonus Firebox. My KORG Micro X comes with editing software and is primarily using a Triton engine. My Roland EM-15 gives me other sounds.

The rest is up to you...Lots of information in these posts...

bob


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Cath
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 11:30 AM

I have a time capsule which I bought when I got my new Mac. It automatically backs up and you can go back to your data as it was on any particular day. I haven't yet had chance to look into it in detail but it should be usefulll.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Nickhere
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 01:42 PM

Thanks Bob, must keep an eye out for same or similar if this darn recession doesn't get me first.

Amos, (and other garageband users) btw, have you tried using Apple Loops Soundtrack?


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Rowan
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 03:24 PM

Bet, every now and then you'll want to open a web page and Safari (the browser supplied with the Mac) can't do it; there are still some recalcitrants out there. My recommendation is to download a copy of Firefox and install it; avoid Internet Exploder whenever possible.

Cheers, Rowan


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Bonnie Shaljean
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 03:53 PM

There's also the Camino browser - I use all three (Firefox, Safari and Camino) more or less interchangeably and they all play together nicely. Check it out:

http://caminobrowser.org/

Thanks to Diane for this heads-up. I was weeping on her shoulder about problems with the BBC iPlayer (now sorted) and she told me about it.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Amos
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 05:15 PM

Apple Loops Soundtrack?? Do you mean using Apple Loops in Soundtrack Pro? If so, no, I haven't used Soundtrack Pro yet.

A


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: katlaughing
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 05:29 PM

That's 'cause you're a Fruit Loop, Amos, on accounta livin' in Califourkneeah.**bg**


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: bet
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 08:26 PM

Wow! My head's spinning with all this info. I found out on thing, I wasn't fast enough in ordering the wireless or whatever, I have dail-up. My computer is here and I can't do a thing here at the house. Tomorrow, while I'm playing grandma, I'll take it to my daughters house and at least accept the Mac license stuff. Hopefully I'll get farther since we are using MacBookPro at school. It doesn't really look that much different but I know I won't have all that the school bought for us to use. Anyway the internet people will be here soon and I'll be in business. Thanks again, all of you.


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: GUEST,Garry Gillard
Date: 15 Feb 09 - 09:20 PM

I was horrified when I found the latest MacBook (the aluminium one introduced late 2008) comes without Firewire! (The cheaper white MacBook still has it.)
Apple is trying to get ppl to buy a MacBookPro.
Firewire is essential to many things I do. It's much faster than USB, wireless or ethernet (currently).
Garry


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: katlaughing
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 12:33 AM

Whoo-hoo!! Good for you, Sis! I'll bet I get more pix of your house, now, right?**bg**

luvya!


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Acme
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 10:46 AM

Zealots, the lot of you. . .

;-D


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Subject: RE: Tech: MacBook Computers
From: Andrez
Date: 16 Feb 09 - 04:01 PM

And virus free to boot!

:-D

Cheers,

Andrez


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