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Subject: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Gurney
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 12:16 AM

clicked the wrong button, sorry.
As I was saying, problems opening programs, Outlook Express, Opera, Disk Cleanup, Disk Defragmenter, my virus killer seemed to be working but wouldn't auto update.

The (manually) updated Virus killer found nothing twice, the harddrive contained a total of 30Gb when I expected it to contain less than 8. The problems began, perhaps coincidentally, when I downloaded a music program -see the Nero Substitute thread.
The harddrive seems to be freezing, the little LED staying steadily alight instead of the usual flickering.
When operating, the problem programs do not behave similarly, OE and Opera behaving normally (after the delayed opening)and DCleanup and DFrag taking forever because of the freezing. I've un and reinstalled the VKiller. Any ideas, anyone


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Gurney
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 04:11 PM

No-one?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 04:29 PM

What is the total capacity of the drive? If it is nearly full, it will have a VERY hard time writing new stuff.

Look at your temporary files and cache, and maybe empty them.

Sometimes it is a setting in something like and anti-virus program that is working overtime, but this doesn't sound like that.

" the harddrive contained a total of 30Gb when I expected it to contain less than 8."
   There are a couple of clever little programs to show you exactly where space is used on the drive...but you need ummm...space.. to install them.

IF you care to try one, here is the most useful...

http://windirstat.info/


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 04:38 PM

Gurney.

Let us start with the basics - my guess is you are not MAC/Acorn

What hardware are you using: Intel or AMD - which processor and speed.?
A PC or a lap top? Dell/HP/HomeBrew?
What hard-drive and what size - YES - exactly as above
How much RAM?
What operating system? Vista? XP? NT? Other?
Do you have a backup of your configuration before installing the new software?

Do you have the problem only ON Line - or also OFF?

Did you make - do you have a restore disk?

Have you attempted to un-install the offending hardware?

Do you have a log of the address you dowloaded the offending program from?
Have you "googled" the download address to see if anyone else has had problems with them?

WHAT other programs to you have opperating in the background. Ctrl+Alt+Del?

Do you know ANYONE (flesh and blood - not cyberspace) - living nearby that knows more than you about PC's ?


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 04:41 PM

The Laughing Cat moderator is free to remove the above post...but it would not help poor Guerny get his problem solved any faster.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Bill D
Date: 09 Feb 09 - 04:45 PM

gee, garg...you don't even BOTHER to sign posts any more? You are BEGGING to be deleted.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Gurney
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 12:12 AM

Ok.
40gig jumpered to 32gig. (It did contain 29.something but I've removed some video. Now about 19gig. Still very suspicious about that quantity.
Temporary files emptied.
CA antivirus, uninstalled, reinstalled, updated, run. Works OK, seemingly. Spybot, run. Ad Aware, run.
Intel 2.6., howebrew. Desktop. 512meg. XP pro. I didn't backup, but I have Restored to December, long before any trouble. So far, trouble noticed opening (opening only, not using) certain web programs, but whilst using Disk Cleanup and Disk Defragmenter, so troubles are offline. I don't have a Restore disk, and the Windows XP disk won't overwrite because XP has come so far from the original installation. The (possibly) offending software has long gone, as far as Remove Programs and Find can tell. The download was from a Mirror I've used before. I am not sophisticated enough to understand what Ctrl/Alt/Del is telling me, but nothing obvious except ZoneAlarm and antivirus.
I have pals who know more than me about hardware, (consulted, "Might be the Harddrive!" but not software. There are professionals I've used (I live in a city) but I generally fix the bloody thing myself. Eventually. Sometimes with extreme measures, such as a VERY thorough formatting. I'd just like some ideas before I go to extremes. Chris.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 01:07 AM

Gurney - Thank You for the information.

I will cogitate awhile - and probably a half-dozen other MC's will too.

If I understand this correctly:
The problem became problematic when the new software (Nero Clone) was installed - and continued after it was removed.

Thanks for returning to the thread.

Guerny - you obviously are comfortable and know your way around your machine - that is GOOD.

I was going to quickly jump to my first suspect - and you confirmed...trouble noticed opening (opening only,

not using

) certain web programs however I had to quickly take that back...the problem with the newer "cloud reapers" is in using...not in booting....and Zone Alarm is a good program to view what is being accessed (I use ZA "Engage Internet Lock" to shut off web connections to Mudcat after a few seconds on each page because Google Ads and DoubleClick are too slow gleaning information and feeding it back to my machine.)

Your RAM is low - the "Nero Burning" substitute is going to be using your HD as a buffer for cache for files. You might consider "Crap Cleaner aka CC" to dump all the cookie crumbs that pile up. This place will show you some of the biggest offenders - but Google takes several more extra steps...but that is probably NOT the problem.

RESTORE - is good.

Scan and Defrag before using a burning device is always good and you did that.

If you simultaneously hold down Control, AND Alt, AND Delete - what does your machine indicate for programs operating in the background (hidden from your desktop?)

In removing programs (such as the offending one) sometimes the default remover also "yanks out by the roots" dll's needed for other programs...however, that does not appear to be an issue. Your other programs work...but your machine is bogged down...and acting overloaded and sluggish. Do you have an idea of what percent of the CPU is being used?

Using the Control/Alt/Del....shut off the Anti Virus and see how it runs....give it a couple minutes to clear. in fact...if that does not help...restart without the anti-virus running....you will be safe since you have already run itand the machine is clean. You might want to try another on-line viral check with a different vender recognizing that their scan will identify "problems" that are not problems in the configuration of your existing virus program.

A trusted mirror is always a good friend - so you also appear clear there.

Using "FIND" and files by "DATE" review the day before and the day after the installation for files "CREATED" as see if anything sparks a light. Do the same for the last 24 hours observe anyfiles that are being created and modified (beyond the obvious cache etc)

WHY did you "jumper down" the 40G 20% to 32G (I know why I never FILL more than 50% but what is yours to jumper down?)

These things are like puzzels. Fun and frustrating. Never rip out things before you know what they are connect to.

GOOD LUCK...I hope some others log in.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 01:10 AM

Another thought - just because you are not "on the net" does not mean that a program is not attempting to access the net...or spooling.

Do you have a "log program" that indicates and records what ports etc. are being accessed?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Mick Pearce (MCP)
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 04:33 AM

Gurney - I sent a PM last night (UK). Did you get it?

Mick


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: olddude
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 11:10 AM

before I would do anything I would go online to microsoft onecare
its free and do a full PC scan. This will get rid of any virus or spyware and take can of any registry issues. then I would proceed from there

onecare


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Gurney
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 09:34 PM

OK, guys, thanks. The problems persist. The HD seems NOT to be jumpered down, I am thinking of the wrong HD, probably the one in my previous 1.7. (This PC is a mishmash of two computers, plus added bits.) I'm quite happy about interfering with the hardware.
My hardware pal also suggested that sometimes RAM works strangely, or only part of it works, so if only, say, 256meg was working, that might explain everything. I wonder if there is a program that tests RAM? It is a single strip, so I can't add to it, because if it isn't up to snuff, then I'll get even more perplexing problems. I've tried mismatched RAM. Never again.
I don't use anything that uses much graphics, but photos and short movies work normally- there is a graphics card in there that sometimes doesn't work properly, showing the 'click' area. I think it's the graphics card.
I'm going to post this now, look at Micks PM, note what's running, and go to Onecare. Back soon.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 10 Feb 09 - 11:19 PM

So you are OK with your "web-surfing" experiences? (Your Mudcat record appears un-interrupted) My guess is after 50 pages it bogs down?

YES - There are web based test programs.

Try shutting off your machine AND modem - for the eight hours of your "off line life." MORE than just shutting down PULL THE POWER PLUG on both to remove the resident memory.

Report back.

I do NOT beleive you have a serious "loss of data" situation...it is a minor glitch....(Gremlin Loose In The Computer Hutch.)

Sincerest Best Wishes
Gargoyle

Someone will learn from your experience.

Stay away from China and Russian video hubs...


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Gurney
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 04:02 AM

Gargoyle, I don't know what 50 pages would look like. I generally check the email, check into Mudcat, maybe click a link of two whilst I'm there, go to our equivalent of EBay,- it's called TradeMe- and check my saved searches. That is usually it. Two hours would be a long time for me. I do very little browsing. The only web problems that I've noticed is when on Youtube, sometimes (not often) the action freezes for a second or two.   Also, Her Indoors insists that both computers, mine and my son's, AND the broadband modem, are switched off at the wall socket every night. The switch definitely disconnects the phase of the socket.

As olddude suggests, I did a full scan through Windows Onecare. Nothing at all. No virus, no spyware. Just my compressed files. 5 hours of scanning. No ports open.   Clean Disk and Defrag not needed. No, I have no log program.

Mick and Gargoyle, I recorded Task Manager whilst I had Outlook Express up, that is the slowest program to load. CPU going to 100% for a second when it finally condescends to load, back down to 0-2% in the steady state. I'll PM you with a copy now. Chris.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Gurney
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 04:20 AM

Gargoyle, are you no longer a member? I can only find 'The Gargoyle Hunter' so I can't PM you.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Simon G
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 04:38 AM

When the operating systems get low on memory you will get it thrashing the disk as it desperately swap memory blocks onto the disk to try and load the memory block it now needs -- this would result in the formerly flashing LED (must be disk usage) being on constantly. Loading a program will be slow as well as the OS tries to clear enough physical memory to run it.

512MB is low for XP these days as it and programs have got more memory hungry.

If you were close to the limit already it can be something very minor which pushes the OS over and you have your system thrashing.

It isn't worth trying to track down what pushed you over the limit, memory is very inexpensive, find out the type of memory in your computer and buy 1GB or 2GB depending what your computer will support.

Simon


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: bald headed step child
Date: 11 Feb 09 - 05:08 AM

I would have to agree with Simon, that ram would be a good place to start.

I had a similar experience a few months ago and went from 512 to 1GB and everything works great now.

BHSC


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Gurney
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 04:13 AM

Well, Simon and BHSChild, I was of the same opinion, so today I bought and installed a new DDR RAM strip, 1gig. It has made not one scrap of difference, the machine performs just the same as before. Another possibility disproved.
I've also removed some programs that I was not using, some more video, and downloaded and run Malwarebytes scanner, a full scan exposing no malware whatsoever. I've reinstalled Outlook Express from the Win CD (a trap for young players in there, it removes all the optional items, and you have to elect to reinstall them) and checked every program I have to see how they load. I find:
Spybot jams ('Not responding.')This was downloaded/installed well after the trouble started, in response to the problem.
MS Outlook jams. It is only there to supply files needed to run my old MS Office under XP.
Outlook Express loads verrry slowly and not consistently, from 30secs to 90secs. It is my email program, but I could remove it and use Opera's mailer, but that would leave whatever the problem is lurking in there somewhere.
I also have to be very deliberate with the mouse buttons, working fast is apt to cause 'Not Responding' problems.
I have one more thing to try, a program that Mick suggested, but it is 10.15pm and I'm sick of today. Goodnight.   Chris.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: JohnInKansas
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 05:59 AM

Gurney -

I believe you said you're running WinXP but you're making reference to a 40GB hard drive. It appears that the 40GB is your system drive(?).

Something more like 80GB is about the minimum that anyone sells a WinXP computer with, since the OS itself eats up so much. Recollection is that the OS, in normal installations needs about 13GB(?). You can get by with a little less, by not installing everything; but by the time you add even a little in the way of other programs things will get really crowded.

The 1GB recommended for RAM is what's required for reasonably rapid swapping of things in and out of "virtual RAM" on the hard drive. XP opens a whole lot more than 1GB just turning on, and whatever real RAM you have will always be filled, with the rest of it going to memory page files (in TEMP folders) on the hard drive.

By default, XP will only use 10% of the free space on the hard drive as virtual RAM, so with a 40GB drive, 10 to 20GB full of WinXP permanent files, a couple of programs and some data files, you've only got maybe 2GB(?) of virtual RAM usable on the hard drive. That means that in order to load a program the RAM fills, then what isn't immediately needed is paged to virtual RAM, but if the virtual RAM gets full, something has to be overwritten by the next "page" that needs to be rapidly accessible. With limited virtual RAM space there will be a lot of accesses to stuff splattered all over the drive, instead of reading back and forth between RAM and virtual RAM, with the virtual part all temporarily in a localized area of the drive.

You can change the amount of virtual RAM (TEMP space) XP can use, although Microsoft warns that you shouldn't, if there's another option (like a larger hard drive, or moving everything except the bare OS to another drive). And sometimes if you change it, XP has a tendency to "default back" to the 10%.

In earlier versions, like Win98, the default was to use only 10% of the largest contiguous free space, which is one of the reasons that defrag was critically important for them. WinXP can jump clumps with its temp space, but it can still get whacked with the need to keep most of the free space out of the "run" processing.

It sounds to me like your boot, and program openings, are doing an abnormal amount of fetch and write (sometimes called "thrashing") during program opening. Once the program is open, the files it needs to run for a while may be mostly in RAM or temp space virtual RAM where they're expected and all sorted out, so the program runs ok - it just takes a long time to get loaded.

Just a guess, based on the usual practice of using significantly larger hard drives with WinXP.

John


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 06:38 AM

This is a tough one. But interesting.

THINKING out loud on the keypad - ramblings

You have backed up your important files RIGHT?

I would have expected the RAM expansion to help - but NOPE.
And the steady state is beautiful...so too many programs are probably not up at one time.

You might try a boot with the option of viewing each item in the sequence showing.

And it certainly appears to go back to the time of the Nero clone installation.

If a critical dll was missing programs would not work at all.

You scanned and defragged in Safe Mode?

An old fix was to fully shut down fully.
Boot in Safe Mode - Scan - Defrag Fully shut down again....(all power off) and repeat the process three times total.

You could shut off Active X and Flash then reboot to see what happens (I just left an obituary site that had my HD spinning like a top with their flash player - using Zone Alarm to engage internet lock the HD still continued the memory swapping until I rebooted.)

You could burn a CD with a new clean minimal boot sequence and boot from it to compare.

I use two HD's - one for programs the other for files...if you have an adequate power supply you could add a second HD.

Leo Laport is a talk-radio tech guy - I like his common sense approach. Here is a link to one of his on-line discussions that might be relevant:

http://forums.techguy.org/tech-tips-tricks/430713-hard-drive-life-os-speed.html

GOOD LUCK - I feel your frustration - I have been there before.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 12 Feb 09 - 06:48 AM

Read the full 3 pages of discussion on Laport's forum.

My two HD's have been running for over a decade - but today's expereince with the flash player has me ready to backup again. (As is always noted...It is not a question of IF but WHEN.

Sincerely
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Gurney
Date: 13 Feb 09 - 02:28 AM

John, I now have 13GB of free space on the HD, and that defragged. When I defragged, most of the space looked contiguous.
This was a W98SE computer until MS stopped supporting it. There is only one HD in there, the other connection is still to a Zip drive until I'm sure I won't need it any more. I do have a portable 500GB HD which only has some music in it, yet. That also wouldn't open, but an unplug-and-replug fixed it. USB connection.
The computer has worked well since XP went in, with 512MB of RAM. Boot isn't bad. Outlook Express, which since the problem is the worst offender, works fine when it is open. I can sometimes ginger up the opening by clicking something else, such as the Opera browser I use, and then OE opens a little quicker, and at the same time as Opera. A little quicker is relative, like four times as long as it should take.
I take your point about larger HDs, but I'll have to wait a while, because the chancellor, Her Indoors, bought me the portable HD. I'll keep my eye open for a cheap larger internal HD and swap them over, which will mean a full install.
Gargoyle, my relatively important files are on a thumbdrive and hard copy, because they are business files. Apart from that, only a few photos are irreplaceable. I rarely have more than two programs open at one time. One .dll file did go missing, an unimportant program.
I uninstalled it. I didn't defrag in Safe Mode, never have, didn't know you could. One lives and learns.   ZoneAlarm. I'm still using the old version because the update wants me to REMOVE my viruskiller to install. I thought that I'd wait until the viruskiller was due for resubscribing and then buy their(CA's)firewall. Perhaps I should.
I definitely should have a boot disk, obviously. I've never had the need of one with W98SE or XP, but XP not being able to overinstall caught me by surprise.
I'll look at the rest of your suggestions tomorrow. 8.30pm here, and once again I've had enough of computers. Thanks for the help, guys and 'I'll be baaaack.'   Chris.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 13 Feb 09 - 07:27 AM

The advantage of SafeMode is speed and ease. What might, perchance, take six hours is easy done in one hour and seems to be done better.

Read the Leo Laport forum discussion ...noted above... it seems to discribe your problem.

http://forums.techguy.org/tech-tips-tricks/430713-hard-drive-life-os-speed.html

I have found that Outlook has a problem when it get overfilled with trash e-mails. The trash NEEDS to be emptied...at about 1,000 strange things happen....bizarre...lost files strange.

Also with the E-Mail InBox - the newer - MUCH LARGER photos and docs and videos that are sometimes included in E-Mails (much larger than ever anticipated) tend to "goop up" the loading of program and take a much longer time. Some folks seem to sometimes never give a second thought to sending 3meg of 5meg files from their digital cameras...in the "good ol days these size files would have filled four of the 3.5inch "floppies." Therefore, I will copy (export) over to another drive and remove large e-mails from the current InBox.

My current hunch is:
1. Dump Trash e-mails
2. Copy and remove from In-Box "giant" sized photo/vid/docs
3. Scan and defrag in safe mode

In retrospect - I beleive I suffered through your current situation until I did the above.

Good Luck.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,harpgirl
Date: 17 Feb 09 - 07:58 PM

garg, I have a problem I can not solve. One of computers was used by a friend of my son. The RAM was getting full before this but after he got done I can not get a screen. It is not blue, it will go to safe mode if I boot but all I see on the screen is safe mode in each corner and I can not see anything to fix. Help!


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Bernard
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 05:05 AM

Chris, there's no need to do a full install if you are only installing a larger hard drive. Programs such as Norton Ghost will 'clone' a drive - which is also useful for keeping a full backup in case of problems.

PM me with your address and I'll send you a bootable CD-Rom which will do the job.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 05:44 AM

HarpGirl it is certainly nice to see you around.

I wish it were under better circumstances. It is amazing how a kid can "muck up" a machine in a matter of minutes.

"RAM getting full" is probably not one of your problems.

I fear you may have some really SERIOUS issues....from video drivers to perhaps even CMOS.

I bow to the expertise of JohnInKansas on this one.

However, you do know your way around PC's so you might take a look at:
http://www.pcinspector.de (You can select English in the upper right corner)

BEST WISHES

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

As usual: Make of machine and hardware, Operating System software ... should be posted to this thread to help in diagnostics.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 Feb 09 - 05:54 AM

Note to Joe

I am being nice. AND will be nicer still if needed. What is the reason for blocking my access?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

With 10,000 portals available ... why should I need to proxy ... there is ALWAYS a way in.


Try it now. I deleted the only two Gargoyle blocks I found.
-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 09:46 PM

Update. The original problem,-delayed access,- was getting worse and affecting more programs as I removed stuff from the computer, scanned, and followed advice generously offered here and in PMs. I realised that I had spent about 20 hours fiddling with the accursed thing. Enough is enough.

Currently, I have pulled the power plug on the HD, installed an old 30gig from a spare computer and jumpered it to Master, and reinstalled most of my software. My intention is to get that HD right and then jumper the original 40gig to Slave, format it, and clone the 30gig onto it. Then swap the jumpers. After I find who I loaned Seagate Tools to.
I don't mind messing with hardware, but software tends to get up my nose!
Someone should design a computer with no harddrive, just a row of thumbdrives. Then you could pull them until you find the problem, or format the thing one piece at a time!
    Don't forget to use a consistent name when you post. Thanks.
    -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 10:21 PM

Thank you for checking in.

I feel your pain....GUEST...who I believe is the member Guerny.

You appear to be on the right (unfortunately) track.

You might look into the Deutschland site noted in the above posting to HarpGirl (click right upper corner for English) http://www.pcinspector.de to view and perhaps recover.

In the days of the "Great Browser Wars" some pretty horrible things happened and "The Bill and Mallinda Gates" foundation is still making a "reparation of payments" for "wrongful acts acknowledged."

I like chaos...I like the current world...

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

Nooowwww,,,whom might benifit from a corrupt FREE clone of "Nero Burning"?????

For centuries the Swiss have always been regarded as the ultimate in confidential monetary transactions.....(tell that to the 250 institutions (Not Individuals) that just got thrown into the pyre.


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Subject: RE: Tech: Another another Problem
From: Gurney
Date: 21 Feb 09 - 12:41 AM

Quite right, Gargoyle, that was me. I had reset my cookie in Internet Explorer, but it hadn't transferred to Opera.

Again, we live and learn. I thought cookies were in a common file, for use with any browser.


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