BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: gnu
Date: 21 Feb 09 - 02:19 PM

meself... are you saying that Canada never imprisoned "Prisoners Of War" taken in Europe?

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: number 6
Date: 21 Feb 09 - 02:23 PM

She is brilliant ... too brilliant for public office.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: number 6
Date: 21 Feb 09 - 02:35 PM

"We didn't keep members of the Hitler Youth locked up for seven or more years"

... huh .... they most certainly where locked up here in Canada .... many German POW's were not sent back until well past the war's end.

My father (an officer) in the Canadian army was a POW interrogator after the war was over .. whose job was to weed out German SS who disguised themselves as regular German infantry.

biLL

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: GUEST,Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 21 Feb 09 - 03:59 PM

A significant number of German PWs did not want to return. I suspect that one of the reasons for not sending them back faster was a lack of transport. Canada did not rank highly when it came to obtaining personnel lift, and what West-to-East lift it had was first given to reinforcement of the formation that made up the occupation force.

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 21 Feb 09 - 07:05 PM

Of course we had German POWs. We didn't charge them with spurious crimes, though, and from anything I've read or heard, we treated them fairly decently. There's no comparison.

And, I was talking specifically about Hitler Youth - how many fourteen or fifteen-old-year Germans were held for seven years in Canadian camps, awaiting prosecution for phony crimes?

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: gnu
Date: 21 Feb 09 - 08:12 PM

Treated fairly decently? Many ended up in sick bay on the prisoner ships after they were loaded on board because they were stabbed in the ass with bayonets upon boarding. Many of them suffered from malnutrition because a weak prisoner is easier to control and grub was scarce.

I not have followed the plight of the 14 year old Canuck who had the money and the wherewithall to travel half way round the earth to gain training and take up arms against the infidels and get caught up in it all, but I do have some knowledge of what happened in WW2 as it applies to the treatment of prisoners taken to Canada in WW2. My old man told me. He was there.

He told me a lot of stuff. Much of it, you would not believe... unless your old man told you.

As for that 14 year old boy, he should not have been there in the first place... there should have been no "there" in the first place. It is all so disgusting and horrid.

But, in war, the soldiers suffer, the people suffer... politicians and rich prosper. It's disgusting and horrid.... and beyond.

Megan.... others... would I really have laid him to waste if it was me? I dunno... I wasn't "there". 50/50 really...

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 22 Feb 09 - 10:58 AM

"Much of it, you would not believe... unless your old man told you."

Well, apparently this is precisely what happened with Khadr - he believed what his old man told him - which was that he should come with him to the other side of the world and join the cause. You or I would have done the same at that age, I have no doubt.

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Something I was going to mention earlier, to give the devil his due: a news report I heard that Harper (or was it one of the other big shots? maybe Ignatieff - I know there's a difference) did raise the question of Khadr with Obama, and Obama's reply was that all the case at Git-mo are under review.

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: GUEST,Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 22 Feb 09 - 12:26 PM

It was Ignatieff who raised the matter of Khadr with Obama, IOW, not someone who was a member of the government of the day.

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 09 - 01:23 PM

Where is the lad's old man, anyway?

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: gnu
Date: 22 Feb 09 - 01:36 PM

Gosh. His old man did a lot of great work funding relief aid, hospitals... conflicting reports about his death, tho.

I wonder why the Yanks falsified docs and such. Maybe we'll never know.

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: GUEST,meself
Date: 22 Feb 09 - 02:46 PM

The father was killed some time ago now; I believe in a raid of some Al- Q...da nest in the Middle East somewhere.

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: GUEST,Charmion's brother Andrew
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 08:07 AM

Ahmed Said Khadr was killed by Pakistani forces during a raid in South Waziristan on 2 October 2003. Omar's brother was left a paraplegic as a result of the same raid.

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: gnu
Date: 15 Mar 09 - 06:19 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: gnu - PM
Date: 19 Feb 09 - 05:41 AM

heric... "No there a big crybaby thread about how he went to Mexico first."

No. We were pointing out that Bush went to Mexico first because he thought Mexico was the largest trading partner of the US.
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Why didn't he go to Mexico first?

Subject: RE: BS: Canada Sucking Up To Obama Day
From: Ebbie
Date: 16 Mar 09 - 12:55 AM

Earlier in this thread there wss a passing discussion of German POWs in Canada and that they did not return home immediately.

I used to go with a former POW. He was captured in 1943 at the age of 19 in a French vineyard by an American tank corps.

He was brought to the US for the duration, first in North Carolina and then in Alabama.

He said that during FDR's tenure the prisoners ate well, even chocolate cake, which, given how starved they were in France, gave him a much needed 30 pounds. After FDR died, it was a different story- spartan fare, plenty of it but spartan.

When the war ended the POWs were not allowed to return home because Germany wasn't able to feed even itself. The POWs were given a choice of where they wanted to go. My friend chose England which is where he remained, helping with crops, until 1948.