Obit: The Death of the English Pub.

Subject: RE: Obit: The Death of the English Pub.
From: BB
Date: 23 Feb 09 - 02:23 PM

One of my favourite pubs is struggling. It's the only pub in the village, has a great landlord and family running it, and used to be a real community pub, but he's a tenant (Courage), and therefore has to pay vast amounts to the brewery, and can't afford to bring his prices down. The upshot is that all the village youngsters go into the nearest town because they can drink more cheaply there whilst still being with their mates (so not because they're drinking at home). Free houses have a lot more freedom to bring down prices and get there beer, etc. cheaper than this pub can from the brewery. And if anyone has to compete with Wetherspoons, they haven't got a chance!

Barbara

Subject: RE: Obit: The Death of the English Pub.
From: Acorn4
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 04:10 AM

This is the problem; a pub landlord struggles just as much if it's a success as if it's a failure these days. It's a no win situation.

Subject: RE: Obit: The Death of the English Pub.
From: Mavis Enderby
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 06:59 AM

Just heard that the Turk's Head, the one-time home of the Lincoln Folk Club is closing - another Enterprise Inns victim.

The catch here though, if the local paper story is correct, is that there is a clause in the sale contract which prevents it being used as a pub once sold.

Sounds a bit severe to me - adding insult to injury?

Story here

Pete.

Subject: RE: Obit: The Death of the English Pub.
From: GUEST, topsie
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 07:19 AM

I suspect that Enterprise Inns are trying to ensure there is no competition for their other pubs in the Lincoln area.

Subject: RE: Obit: The Death of the English Pub.
From: Rafflesbear
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 03:54 PM

I don't suppose it's cos we spend too much time sitting in the spare bedroom typing messages to each other rather than discussing the same issues face to face with some mates in the pub?

Subject: RE: Obit: The Death of the English Pub.
From: GUEST,Jim Martin
Date: 24 Feb 09 - 11:20 PM

Tabster asked if pubs in Ireland are having as hard a time as those in England. I think they are, certainly rural ones. I don't know how the system works here but I do know that pub owners can sell their licences from a rural location to an urban one, like Dublin - seems a strange way of going on! It's certainly not helping to maintain or develop sustainable rural living!

Subject: RE: Obit: The Death of the English Pub.
From: Acorn4
Date: 01 Aug 09 - 01:10 PM

This song has been generating a bit of interest when I've been playing it around various cubs and festivals, so thought I'd put in up on the "tube":-

Last Orders at the Bar.

Subject: RE: Obit: The Death of the English Pub.
From: Acorn4
Date: 01 Aug 09 - 01:12 PM

sorry... "clubs"

Subject: RE: Obit: The Death of the English Pub.
From: Peter the Squeezer
Date: 01 Aug 09 - 03:03 PM

And there was I thinking you were trying to attract the youth!!

Well done Dave - good song!

Peter