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'Conversation' songs

Tony Burns 29 Jun 99 - 08:59 AM
AllisonA(Animaterra) 29 Jun 99 - 09:06 AM
alison 29 Jun 99 - 09:11 AM
AndyG 29 Jun 99 - 09:12 AM
Lesley N. 29 Jun 99 - 09:13 AM
Tony Burns 29 Jun 99 - 09:13 AM
Tony Burns 29 Jun 99 - 09:16 AM
Dan 29 Jun 99 - 09:33 AM
Fadac 29 Jun 99 - 10:22 AM
Mudjack 29 Jun 99 - 12:26 PM
Llanfair 29 Jun 99 - 12:58 PM
gargoyle 29 Jun 99 - 01:26 PM
gargoyle 29 Jun 99 - 01:40 PM
Barbara 29 Jun 99 - 01:51 PM
Night Owl 29 Jun 99 - 02:18 PM
Joe Offer 29 Jun 99 - 03:31 PM
Tony Burns 29 Jun 99 - 04:44 PM
Indy Lass 29 Jun 99 - 06:07 PM
Indy Lass 29 Jun 99 - 06:12 PM
Den 29 Jun 99 - 06:22 PM
Susanne (skw) 29 Jun 99 - 07:11 PM
Banjer 29 Jun 99 - 08:07 PM
bseed(charleskratz) 29 Jun 99 - 08:41 PM
gargoyle 30 Jun 99 - 01:22 AM
alison 30 Jun 99 - 01:40 AM
bseed(charleskratz) 30 Jun 99 - 02:35 AM
Bert 30 Jun 99 - 09:31 AM
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Cap't Bob 30 Jun 99 - 11:05 AM
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Songbob 01 Jul 99 - 11:39 AM
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Subject: 'Conversation' songs
From: Tony Burns
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 08:59 AM

I've asked for the lyrics to DAVY THE DROVER which is a song where a male and female singer alternate verses in a conversation. I'd like to find other examples of this style. The only one that springs to mind is THERE'S A HOLE IN THE BUCKET, where Henry and Liza discuss the problem.

[Many song titles in this thread have been converted to links by a Mudelf.]


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: AllisonA(Animaterra)
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 09:06 AM

Good morning, Tony! How's this:

Old woman, old woman, are you fond of (I can't remember: shearing?)
Speak a little louder sir, I'm very hard of hearing!

In the end he asks to marry her and she suddenly gets her hearing back!
Allison


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: alison
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 09:11 AM

There's one called "LOOKIN' THE LOAN OF A SPADE I heard done once by the Sands family.....

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: AndyG
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 09:12 AM

Off the top of my head:
CLAUDY BANKS
THE PRICKLE HOLLY BUSH
Frolicsome Kate
OH SHEPHERD, OH SHEPHERD
DROYLSDEN WAKES

AndyG


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Lesley N.
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 09:13 AM

There are several "courting" songs that alternate male/female - Huntingtontower (The DUKE OF ATHOL's Courtship), MADAM, WILL YOU WALK?, THE KEYS TO CANTERBURY.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Tony Burns
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 09:13 AM

Allison! Perfect! I want more!

btw - Lyrics at THE DEAF WOMAN'S COURTSHIP


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Tony Burns
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 09:16 AM

WOW! 3 more responses while I replied!

Mudcat rules!!!!!!


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Dan
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 09:33 AM

Black girl, black girl, don't lie to me.
Tell me where did you sleep last night
.
In the pines, in the pines, where the sun never shines,
And I shivered the whole night through.
Black girl, black girl, where'd you get that dress,
That silken dress of red?
I got it from a railroad man, for lying in his bed. (etc., etc.)

And how about one based on one side of a conversation? "The Chair" by George Strait. Interesting genre. Reminds me of La Chute, a whole novel comprising the voice of one character in conversation with one other who never speaks. Anybody read it?


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Subject: Lyr Add: THERE'S A HOLE IN THE BUCKET
From: Fadac
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 10:22 AM

There is a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear Liza,
There is a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, a hole.

Well, fix it, dear John, dear John, dear John.
Well, fix it, dear John, dear John, fix it.

This goes on:

With what? (Use straw.)
It's too long. (Cut it.)
With what? (The axe.)
Too dull. (Sharpen it.)
With what? (The stone.)
Too dry. (Wet it.)
With what? (Water.)
From where? (The well.)
How? (Use bucket.)
There is a hole in the bucket.

Have fun. Sing slow, and female gets more and more ticked off.

-Fadac


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Mudjack
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 12:26 PM

ARKANSAS TRAVELER. Don't click here! I still can't make the blue clicky thing.

Mudjack

No? Well, I can. --JoeClone, 18-Nov-2008.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Llanfair
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 12:58 PM

What about LIZZIE LINDSAY.....it must be on the Digitrad. I haven't done that one for years, since the name Ronald MacDonald got famous....spoilt the song, rather!! Bron.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: gargoyle
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 01:26 PM

One of the first ones I learned: PAPER OF PINS

Been meaning to sing it to Alice when we met up at Joe's Bar.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: gargoyle
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 01:40 PM

My version has a different ending -

I'll give to your my house and lot
And all the money that I've got
If you'll marry, marry, marry, marry
If you'll marry me

Oh, I will take your house and lot
And all the money that you've got
And yes, I will marry, marry, marry, marry
Yes, I will marry you.

Come all the world and plainly see
She loves my money but she don't love me
So I won't marry, marry, marry, marry
I won't marry you.

Well, If you were a better lookin' man
You wouldn't have to offer me money and land
Won't no body marry, marrry, marry, marry
Won't no body marry you.

HE Well, I won't let you have the last word
SHE And I won't let you have the last word
TOGETHER So I guess I'll have to marry, marry, marry marry
So I guess I'll have to marry you.

^^


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Barbara
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 01:51 PM

Berryman and Berryman (Lou and Peter) have written several if you want a more modern outlook. "PASS THE PEPPER", I believe one is called, is an archetypical husband and wife breakfast conversation where they inform each other of conflicting plans and neither listens.
Or there is "ORANGE COCOA CAKE" where a woman attempts to give a recipe over the phone to a friend while dealing with her three children.
And then there is "WHY AM I PAINTING THE LIVING ROOM?" If you want any of these (and they're not in DT, I haven't checked yet) I could post them.
They also have a song called "DOUBLE YODEL" where the man and woman alternate not only the verses but the high and low parts of the yodel.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Night Owl
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 02:18 PM

"JENNY JENKINS"; "FIVE NIGHTS DRUNK"; "Soldier John" [SOLDIER, SOLDIER, WILL YOU MARRY ME?]...(not sure if that's the correct title, but after she buys him new clothes for their wedding, he can't marry her "with all these fine clothes on").....


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Joe Offer
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 03:31 PM

Then there's the obnoxious Buffalo Boy and the sexist OH, NO JOHN.
I can't help myself. I like 'em both, even if they appeal to my baser instincts.
-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Tony Burns
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 04:44 PM

Thanks for the offer to post Barbara but folks have supplied a long list already. No point in going to the trouble for my needs. Someone else might like them and if so I expect they will speak up.

Thanks to everyone.


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Subject: Lyr Add: COME UNDER MY PLAIDIE^^
From: Indy Lass
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 06:07 PM

There's a song sung by Tannahill Weavers called "COME UNDER MY PLAIDIE" that's a discussion between an elderly man and a young woman:

Come under my plaidie the nights gane ta fa'
Come in frae the cold blast, the drift and the snaw
Come under my plaidie and sit doon beside me
There's room in it lassie believe me for twa
Come under my plaidie and sit doon beside me
I'll hap ye frae every cauld wind that can blaw
Comme under my plaidie and sit doon beside me
There's room in it lassie believe me for twa

Gae wa wi your plaidie auld Donald gae wa
I fear nae the cauld blast, the drift or the snaw
Gae wa wi your plaidie, I'll no sit beside ye
Ye might be my gutcher(grandfather)auld Donal gae wa
I'm gaun tae meet Johnnie, He's young and he's bonnie
He's been at Meg's bridle fu' trig and fu braw
Nane dances sae lightly,sae gracefu' sae tightly
His cheeks like the new rose, his brow's like the snaw

Dear Marion let that flee stick tae the wa
Your Jock's but a gowk and has naethin' ava'
The hale o' his pack he has no on his back
He's thirty and I am but three score an twa
Be frank noo an' kin'ly I'll busk ye aye finely,
Tae kirk or tae merket they'll few gang sae braw
A bien hoose tae bide in a chaise for tae ride in
And flunkies tae tend ye as aft as ye ca'

My faither aye tellt me my mither an a
Ye'd mak a guid husband and keep me aye braw
It's true I lo' Johnnie, he's young and he's bonnie
But wae's me I ken he has naethin ava'
I hae little tocher ye've made a guid offer
I'm noo mair than twenty my time is but sma'
Sae gie me yer plaidie, I'll creep in beside ye
I thocht ye'd been aulder than three score an' twa.

^^ This is from their "The Mermaids Song" CD.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Indy Lass
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 06:12 PM

Oops--make that the Tannahill Weavers. My apologies about the spelling. Sometimes my computer will end my transmission due to "lack of activity" and I'm not the fastest typist so I didn't take the time to double check.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Den
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 06:22 PM

There was also the very dark, THE WELL BELOW THE VALLEY.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 07:11 PM

THE SHEARIN'S NAE FOR YOU
Proposal and Acceptance


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Banjer
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 08:07 PM

I've heard 'T FOR TEXAS" done as such a number. His part is the T for Texas, she does the T-for Tennessee part, he does T for Thelma and she demands to know who is Thelma and the rest of the song is a conversation between the two, her answering each line he sings. Kinda neat...


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 29 Jun 99 - 08:41 PM

Gargoyle, that song is "PAPER OF PINS":

I'll give to you a paper of pins
For that's the way my love begins,
If you will marry me-e-e,
If you will marry me.

I'll not accept your paper of pins,
If that's the way your love begins,
Ana I'll not marry you-ou-ou,
No, I'll not marry you.

The young man offers items of increasing value with the same result, until finally it comes to the verse Gargoyle entered, when she finally assents. --seed


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: gargoyle
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 01:22 AM

Oh the humblest and most gracious of apologies to my dearest, kind and benevolently, honorable Mr. Seed.

By now I am familar with your rude style of jumping into the middle of threads without following them through.

By now you should be familar with my style of double posting. Read the posting above the one you commented about.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: alison
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 01:40 AM

Any of the "THE FALSE KNIGHT UPON THE ROAD" songs

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 02:35 AM

Sorry, Gargoyle--I missed that one: I just scrolled past it. When I clicked the ribbon, your longer one caught my eye, I guess. I would characterize my postings as too often careless, but hardly rude (except the playful one in the True Detective thread--I guess you didn't see it that way and I'm sorry [I apologized for it in that thread, also, you may recall]. I was bummed by the cyberstalker one from Fongoul (Fongoyle?), I'll have to admit. --seed


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Bert
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 09:31 AM

There's SOLDIER, SOLDIER, WILL YOU MARRY ME

Bert


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From:
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 10:11 AM

This is a great thread. It has given me an idea for a topic for one of our monthly song swaps. One of my favorites of THE LAIRD O' DRUM, by Bok, Muir, & Trickett's Language of the Heart CD.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Cap't Bob
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 11:05 AM

"ROCKIN' CHAIR" ~~ with Jack Teegarden and Louis Armstrong

Cap't Bob


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 12:15 PM

CAPTAIN WEDDERBURN'S COURTSHIP


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: gargoyle
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 07:26 AM

Aahhh - L's Brother, your nautical vent brought to mind, THE LOWDOWN LONESOME LOW.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Songbob
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 11:39 AM

Late-19th Century pop songs had several such songs, including two I can think of just now:

"THERE'LL COME A TIME," which is just conversation, no "he said, she said" stuff, between a father and daughter, in which the father reveals that his wife left him long ago, and he's sure that "there'll come a time, someday" when the daughter will leave him. It's corny and cloying and all those 19th-century things, but it's interesting. Not sure I can find the words, but I'll try to look for 'em.

"JUST TELL THEM THAT YOU SAW ME," by Paul Dresser, from 1892, I think. A chance encounter on a street between a man "on pleasure bent" and an old school-girl friend who is obviously walking those streets. I _can_ remember this one, and if it's not in the DT, I'll submit the lyrics.

Bob Clayton


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Bert
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 11:53 AM

LOLLY-TOO-DUM


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: SandyBob
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 02:42 PM

A FINE ROMANCE - from an old Astaire picture

What about just plain talking songs with a sung verse or two? Fun ones I'm aware of are any version of the talking blues, maudlin talking country songs by Red Sovine, etc.

SandyBob


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Annrai
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 03:22 PM

I'm surprised no one has mentioned "True Lover's Discourse"/"'THE LOVER'S DISCUSSION" amounting to a two-way conversation where the girl and her lover converse in alternate stanzas. A 48 verser, it takes some handlin'.

A friend of mine and his wife from Glenfin in Donegal used to do it at weddings as their "party Piece" Extraordinarily enough it was penned by a Co. Down man from Magheratimpany near Ballynahinch - from where I first collected it. It had travelled all the way to Donegal with hardly a single word of difference.

The late great Jerry Hicks was the first man I ever heard singing it, and he only ever recorded a much-shortened version.

Annraoi


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Charlie Baum
Date: 04 Jul 99 - 01:26 AM

Ah Yes I REMEMBER IT WELL (Maurice Chevalier and What's-her-name?)

--Charlie Baum


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 25 Jan 01 - 08:16 PM

Here's a few more that come to mind:

Lou and Peter Berryman's "DO YOU THINK IT'S GONNA RAIN?" (which is also a cumulative song).

Lou and Peter Berryman's "If (Dueling Paranoias)."

"TWO SLEEPY PEOPLE," by Hoagy Carmichael and Frank Loesser, sung by Bob Hope and Shirley Ross in "THANKS FOR THE MEMORY," 1938.

And here's a related thread, although not all the songs are dialogues: DUETS, (And Other Multi-Part Songs).


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: GUEST,Dita (at work)
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 06:30 AM

A couple of Irish ones spring to mind.

Over the mountain sung by Len Graham. [See THE TRIP OVER THE MOUNTAIN]

MY LOVE IS IN AMERICA written and sung by Mick Hanley.

love, john.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: GUEST,Arkie
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 09:18 AM

"WHISTLE, DAUGHTER, WHISTLE" and "ROVING GAMBLER" make use of dialog between mother and daughter.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 12:12 PM

The other "SOLDIER, SOLDIER" i.e. Pete Bellamy's version of the Kipling poem. See the recent (3 weeks old?) "Soldier, Soldier" thread.
Keith


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Lox
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 12:19 PM

Don't forget:

"FAIRYTALE OF NEW YORK."

...You're a bum you're a punk
You're an old slut on junk...etc...

Bye kirsty

lox


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Grab
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 12:53 PM

DEVIL WENT DOWN TO GEORGIA has 2 separate singers for Johnny and the Devil.

Grab.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: GUEST
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 01:08 PM

FATHER AND SON by Cat Stevens -- always liked the way the two melody/descanted in the last verse


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 01:13 PM

"You Say Tomayto; I Say Tomahto"
(LET'S CALL THE WHOLE THING OFF)
Actually the first thing that came to mind when I saw this thread was "Hello Walls"


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: GUEST,Ina
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 02:25 PM

"I NEVER TALK TO STRANGERS", Tom Waits and Bette Midler

"IN SPITE OF OURSELVES", John Prine and Iris DeMent !!!


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Diva
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 03:02 PM

Tam Bowie.....rather rude but fun as sung by Nynia and I on Sunday night when we should have been studying for our exam on Monday.


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: SINSULL
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 03:40 PM

"Make Believe" from Showboat? Giant SIGHHHH


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: Jimmy C
Date: 26 Jan 01 - 10:32 PM

BRIAN OG AND MOLLY BAWN,

WILD COLONIAL BOY?


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Subject: Lyr Add: FLUE EYES (Shel Silverstein)
From: Susanne (skw)
Date: 27 Jan 01 - 05:41 PM

Here is a hilarious, basically spoken piece from Hamish Imlach's 'Fine Old English Tory Times' (1972), written by Shel Silverstein, but certainly not in Glaswegian dialect ... The 'lady' is done (very convincingly) by Iain MacKintosh.
FLUE EYES
(Shel Silverstein)

Ah see ye're a' by yersel', sittin' at the bar
Can Ah sit doon beside ye, ma whish daughter

Ma boyfriend, he - actually, he's jist gone tae the cludgie
He's seven feet ta' an' he always carries an axe
An' he's the leader o' the Auchenshuggle Hell's Angels

Och aye -
Well if Ah beat up yer boyfriend an' Ah take away his axe
And Ah set fire tae his moped, an' Ah sit doon beside ye
Will ye take a wee drink, flower

Ah'm drinkin' double brandies and baby cham

Och -
Well if Ah beat up yer boyfriend an' Ah take away his axe
And Ah set fire tae his moped, an' Ah sit doon beside ye
An' Ah buy ye a double brandy an' a baby cham
Can Ah run ye hame, ma whish daughter

I live in Whig

Och -
Well if Ah beat up yer boyfriend an' Ah take away his axe
And Ah set fire tae his moped, an' Ah buy you a double brandy an' a baby cham
An' Ah run ye hame tae Whig
Will ye ask me tae the door, flower

Ya see, we really get an awfy damp close
An' it's full o' crocodiles and alligators
An' there's mice an' there's rats in the dunny

Och aye -
Well - if Ah beat up yer boyfriend an' Ah take away his axe
And Ah set fire to his moped, an' Ah buy you a double brandy an' a baby cham
An' Ah run ye hame tae Whig, an' Ah don't get eaten by the crocodiles an' the alligators
Will ye ask me tae come in, ma wee flower

Ach,it's awfy late, an' ma mammy'll be waitin' up for me
She likely has washed the loaby floor, an' it'll a' be covered in newspapers
An' we've got a vicious big Alligatian dog that bites strangers
My faither, he's worried aboot no' gettin' his broo money through
I'll have tae wash ma hair, I've got tae be up early the morrow mornin' -

Wait - you don't really want me tae see ye hame, dae ye

But ma mammy'll be waitin' for me

You don't really like me, dae ye

But ma hair's got tae be washed, it didnae get washed since last Thursday .....

'S a' right, 's a' right, Ah know, Ah know .....


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Subject: RE: 'Conversation' songs
From: bill\sables
Date: 27 Jan 01 - 05:54 PM

There was one called "Wor Geordies Wife" from Newcastle


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