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Favorite Art Thieme Songs

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BK Lick 02 Mar 09 - 02:14 AM
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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 02 Mar 09 - 06:45 AM

Art, you'll need my email address, since I'm not a member.
It's gerry@ics.mq.edv.av except that you have to change each v to u.


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: BK Lick
Date: 02 Mar 09 - 02:14 AM

I hope all y'all know about Stefan Wirz's lovingly crafted Art Thieme discography.


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 11:57 PM

Olddude,

I did get a ton of mileage out of Mr. Driftwood's old song. There are many good memories connected to it for me. like singing it in Arkansas for Jimmy in Glenn Ohrlin's barn one time. Carol and I were picking Stone County ticks off each other for a week every time we came home from there.

Ah nostalgia!!

Art


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 11:46 PM

Gerry,
I will happily accept "Billy Venero" --- It is a real favorite of mine too. And I've always felt that was a fine picking arrangement I figured out for it. What a gutsy/lame thing for me to do --- have the temerity to have my very first LP be a LIVE concert recording?! That old Kicking Mule album turned out o.k. I guess. That was the big bicwntennial year -- 1976 -- when we recorded that.

I have an idea that I'll P,M. you about.

Art


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 08:46 PM

Sorry, Art, in my imagination I can hear you singing "When I'm Gone," I'll just have to chalk it up as some kind of auditory hallucination on my part. So I'll vote for Billy Venero.


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: olddude
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 06:48 PM

Kat
for me there have only been two people that did Tennessee Stud!
that make me sit down in awe
one is Doc Watson
the other is Art Thieme


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Art Thieme
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 12:50 PM

I never learned or sang "When I'm Gone" or "While I'm Here" -- whatever it's called. For me, Terry Leonino and Greg Artzner (Magpie) did the definitive version of it. I'm left wondering who you heard do that song that you thought was me??!

Art


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Cool Beans
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 12:32 PM

I like "Vincent." Now, there's a song whose theme is art. What's that? Oh, Art Thieme. OK, it'd have to be "The Night Rider's Lament."


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 11:48 AM

And Art singing Jerry's A Handful of Songs.
- Phil
(and the stories never go out out style. I used the one about the dog who died after losing his tail a couple weeks ago, properly attributed to Art)


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Waddon Pete
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 11:40 AM

I'm not going to even try and choose!

All of them!


Best wishes,

Peter


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: katlaughing
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 11:28 AM

And then there's the Tennessee Stud!


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: GUEST,DonMeixner
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 10:50 AM

"While I'm Here" is certainly more proactive sounding than "When I'm Gone".
Hank Snow's The Last Ride is the Art Thieme song that comes to mind immediately. But Along side the Santa Fe Trail is probably my favorite.

Don


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: olddude
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 10:36 AM

This is on the web that we all should read
                     
                            Art Thieme Biography
Art is America's best-loved troubador. Many years ago, a great singer by the name of T. Texas Tyler was known as "the man with a million friends". Unfortunately, Tex is no longer with us, but that title has passed on to Art Thieme. Art is a one man skiffle band. His main instruments are his guitar and banjo, but he plays everything from the saw, to the jew's harp, to the nose flute, as well as another dozen or so weird gadgets. None of them, however, is as wierd as his sense of humor. He tells the most outrageous puns and stories so well that you laugh even if you've heard them a dozen times or more. He has donated his time and talents to getting dozens of folk clubs started. He has taught children to make and play home-made instruments. He has taught other musicians, as well. He shares his songs with anyone who will listen. He has written many articles for folk publications. He has folk music radio shows. He he has performed in schools, in concert halls, at concerts, by campfires, and on riverboats. He has collected songs (and bad jokes), while travelling across the country, from hoboes, children and other musicians. Like a real balladeer, he may never sing or play a song the same way twice, but adds new interpretations with each performance. He is a real treasure! ~ Don Stevens, All Music Guide


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: olddude
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 09:41 AM

Today it is "Betty and Dupree's blues"
I am speechless from the quality and volume of work Art has given us


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Phil Cooper
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 09:22 AM

Pinery Boy, Death of Robin Hood, Master of the Sheepfold. Can't just pick one.


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Skivee
Date: 01 Mar 09 - 12:36 AM

I'm also quite fond of "That's The Ticket". Please place one more chaulk mark in the proper column.


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 11:39 PM

Jeez, folks, thanks. I'm very glad you liked some of what I did last century. 'Twas an honor to be among you -- swimming in our little folkie pond.


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: katlaughing
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 10:53 PM

Art has been one of the BIGGEST influences on me since I came to Mudcat and *met* him. His Cowboy's Barbara Allen has a really special place in my heart for a lot of reasons, not the least of which is his delivery of it, but also because I grew up in WY until I was eight and, lived there later, and the song references places I knew there. I love all of his music, though!

But, it's not just his music which has influenced me. It is his freely sharing and caring of his career and experiences which he tells about in such entertaining and humble, yet awesome ways. I know he thinks I go overboard sometimes and I might make him blush, but he IS one of my all-time heroes.

Just one example of the power of his artistry - no pun intended: inevitably, if my Rog or I are in a down mood or we've been snippy with one another, if I put on one of Art's CDs it never fails to lighten our moods and bring us back in sync with one another and our world. There were many miles travelled in Wyoming to Art's music and it brings those good times back to us any time we listen, again.

luvyakat


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 10:27 PM

I heard him sing a couple of songs on the radio that I don't think he ever put on an album, and those songs were good enough to start me buying his LPs; Golden Vanity, and the Phil Ochs song, While I'm Here.


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Big Mick
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 09:46 PM

..... Art is a rare gem of a man. I could no more select one song or one story than I could select my favorite kid. Just can't be done.

I love ya, Art. It is that simple. You once told me how Utah changed your performing life. I would say the same thing about you, my friend. I cannot imagine what performance would be like without you around to swipe this stuff from.

All the best,

Mick


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: olddude
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 09:44 PM

Art
   that is priceless
God Bless you, and thank you for your gift of music to all of us.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 09:35 PM

Good people, here is the tall tale I told on stage for over 30 years. I originally got the tale from Jack Thorp's book Pardner Of The Wind. Mr. Thorp put out the first book of cowboy songs ever published in the USA in 1908. That was two years before John Lomax's book of cowboy songs came out in 1910.

THE GREAT TURTLE DRIVE (as adapted and told by Art Thieme -- after Jack Thorp)

Well, it had to be way over 100 years back. There was this fellow having dinner in a place in Kansas City. On the menu was turtle soup -- a very rare commodity out on the American frontier. He ordered himself a bowl of that turtle soup, spooned it down and enjoyed it quite a bit. THEN he got the bill.

After calming down and paying the huge $50.00 price tag on the one bowl of soup, he got to thinking about all the land terrapins out there on the prairie crawling around south of there. If he could gather a bunch of those turtles together he could make a tidy sum.

So this guy went out and hired a crew of fellows that he called Turtle Boys, and he sent them down to southern Texas -- where all the land terrapins roamed wild down there. He gave the boys gunny sacks, and they gathered together a big herd of about thirty thousand head o' turtle. It was an impressive sight; turtles just about as far as you could see. One fine summer day they got out there on the trail and headed 'em north -- the idea being to get 'em all the way to the railroad up near Abilene in Kansas. Truth be told, this was a pretty strange scheme. At the rate the land terrapins moved, about four or five feet per day, it would take them more than thirty years to get to market. But our entrepreneur was one of those Enron-Arthur Andersen, bank and stock market thief guys and, of course, he was blinded to the realities of his venture by all the dollar signs in his eyes.

Ya gotta kind of picture the details of it. They were riding along, hooting and a-hollering, just trying anything to get 'em to move out. Even shooting off their revolvers wasn't very effective. They fed them beans hoping it might sort of jet propel 'em along. (Bad idea.)

At night the turtle boys would be ridin' around the herd and singin' to 'em. Roping strays ya know. (It's not easy to rope a turtle. They just pull in their heads and legs and tail -- the rope just slips off.)

One amazing discovery was that the entire herd, all thirty thousand head o' land terrapins, had to be flipped over every night. The turtle boys had to dismount from their horses, walk over to the herd, and carefully, one by one, they had to flip over all the turtles onto their backs --- to keep 'em from stampeding. After a week or two of this, the turtle boys realized that the turtles' little legs waving around in the air all night tired them out so bad that the next day the animals could only make one or two feet at best. So they had to cut that out. It was all trial and error since a trail drive like this had never been done before.

One good thing that came out of all this was that while they were all bedded down for the night the females would lay eggs. Three weeks later they would hatch out into a secondary herd following the first herd. Our head man just got more and more dollar signs in his eyes. He had a picture in his mind of a whole long string of hurtle turds-------whew, I mean turtle herds -- all stretched out (as it were) all the way to the railhead up north in Abilene.

Well, eventually they got to the banks of the Red River -- that fabled stream that was infamous in the tales and songs of Texas. Sunning himself on the banks of the river was an impressive scholarly-looking mud turtle named Studs -- Studs Turtle. Now, he saw this thundering mass o' turtle flesh barreling down the bluff at him with their nostrils all flared and the steam pouring out -- and he got a little spooked! He jumped right into the river -- and swam away. But the land terrapins, being a few straws short of a bale, followed him into the river. Being land terrapins, of course they all sank like a rock -- and drowned.

Folks, as you might imagine (and I hope you are doing just that) this would've put a quick end to what has, through the years, come to be known as The Great Turtle Drive in the annals of western history. But the turtle boys, being quite resourceful wouldn't let it end there. They started digging these huge pits which they filled with red-hot coals. They pushed boulders into the pits and heated those up until they too were just glowing red hot with heat. Then, using small trees as levers, they pushed the hot rocks into the waters of the Red River. Slowly, the water started to heat up -- and then it started to seethe, boil, steam, and froth. For the next year at least, the Red River ran with turtle soup. Pure stuff. It kept the Indians fed through a very bad winter -- and everyone turned out pretty happy when it was all over.

A year later in that same restaurant in Kansas City, that same guy, this time having a nice bowl of beef stew, had another idea. He told his friend, "I just thought of something. If we could do it with turtles, maybe we should try it with COWS."

And that was the start of the cattle industry in the American West.

Yeah, all the singers of cowboy songs, and the reciters of cowboy poetry, and the lovers of cowboy movies, and the riders of all those bulls (both the mechanical kind and the real ones) -- also the Texans who toss the bull in all those bars -- they ALL owe this fellow a huge and heartfelt THANK YOU for providing them ALL with a subculture they could thrive and get rich and famous within. As my old uncle was so fond of saying, "Fame is proof of how gullible people can be!"

And if you are left wondering how I can sit here and tell this to you now, it's because I was there to see it as it all unfolded-----------and I have turtle recall!


Art Thieme
Peru, Illinois (Where our governors make our license plates!)


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Joybell
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 09:07 PM

I've always loved, "That's the Ticket" from way before I knew Art.
Cheers, Joy


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: olddude
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 08:38 PM

OH my Gosh
I never heard it Jerry only people talking about it . gotta hear that tall tale sometime

how about it Art share with us


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Subject: RE: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: Jerry Rasmussen
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 08:34 PM

There are countless songs of Art's that I love but having to pick one, the first that comes to mind is not a song but a tall tale, The Great Turtle Drive. I never tire of that one.

Jerry


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Subject: Favorite Art Thieme Song
From: olddude
Date: 28 Feb 09 - 08:30 PM

Keeping with my theme (no pun intended) on the great mudcat masters who gave us a lifetime of music. Art is a mudcat treasure and national one. Way to many to say what is my all time Art Thieme song but right now I am listening to Blue Mountain ...

so what is yours?


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