Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: M.Ted
Date: 09 Mar 09 - 01:22 AM

Probably the easiest thing to do is to get a MIDI file of the tune in question, open it up in a sequencer, change the key, then burn it to CD--the other stuff is pretty iffy--

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: Jack Campin
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 09:41 PM

The new Microsoft music editor SongSmith seems able to do what the OP wants.

There is a demo on YouTube of a heavy metal performance with all the drums and guitars taken out leaving a disjointed collection of vocal shrieks.

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: Bill D
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 07:20 PM

1st, 'guest' did not bother to use a name ...but 2nd more importantly, he/she didn't say whether this 'converting' needs to be done to the notation ...to be printed...or to the audio file.

A combination of Audacity and perhaps VanBasco's Midi/Karaoke player and Noteworth Composer could probably manage to do whatever in necessary....unless the request was to 'strip' actual sung lyrics out of an audio file. That is beyond most easily obtainable software.

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: John P
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 07:17 PM

Well, you can change the key by a step, maybe two, depending on the music. Farther than that and the modified track starts bearing small resemblance to the original.

Have you though about finding someone to play it on a guitar or piano?

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: Simon G
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 06:23 PM

Audacity, its free and it will do the job. try searching for

audacity karaoke

Most sound editors including Audacity can change pitch/key without changing speed ro vice-versa.

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: Peace
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 03:42 PM

The problem would be in changing the key of that particular recording (without altering the speed).

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: Howard Jones
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 03:39 PM

Depending on what the music is, it might be possible to buy a "karaoke" version without a vocal track. I'm sure I've seen these things advertised. It might be cheaper than trying to find and get to grips with some possibly expensive and complicated software.

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: Don Firth
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 02:56 PM

I've been told that Melodyne can break a piece of music down to its component parts and can even show it to you in standard music notation. From there, it might be possible to rearrange or delete the parts you don't want.

But I've never had any actual experience with Melodyne, and it is pretty pricy.

Don Firth

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: bobad
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 02:49 PM

Nero Wave Editor has something called "Karaoke Filter". I haven't played around wit it but here's what it says in the help section;

"The Karaoke filter filters the human voice out of audio files, so that the original song can be saved without the vocals. The filter removes those parts of the song which are the same in both stereo channels. This is generally the vocals. Because of the way in which the filter works, the original file must be a stereo file. Also, there is no guarantee that the voice can be removed successfully. The success of the filtering depends on the mixing during the production of the recording."

Subject: RE: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: Crane Driver
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 02:05 PM

Well, never say never but - I'm not sure how a computer could be expected to tell what parts of, say an MP3 file are lyrics and what parts are instrumentation, with any degree of accuracy. It'd be a good trick if someone can pull it off.

BTW, if you're new here, then welcome, but please pick yourself a name and use it consistently. It doesn't have to be your real name.

Andrew

Subject: Tech: Instument segregation/key alteration
From: GUEST
Date: 08 Mar 09 - 01:33 PM

I want software that will strip a piece of music of its lyrics and convert the instrumentation from one key to another. I am planning to use the resulting product at a wedding where I will sing the lyrics.