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Who's funny? Who's Not?

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Subject: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 01:53 PM

This came about from perusing the "Hitchiker's Guide" thread. It seems to me that who we laugh at is a defining part of our personality. It often gets down to the very heart of our culture and upbringing as well. Sometimes, of course we cross all cultural lines and laugh heartily at someone for reasons we can't explain. Here's a few of my favourite and least favourite "funny people".

Funny.
Dawn French and Jennifer Saunders.(Ab-Fab!!)
Peter Sellers (on radio, records, and early films)
Rowan Atkinson as Blackadder
Stephen Wright
Mel Brooks.(only Blazing Saddles, and Young Frankenstein)
Spinal Tap
Christopher Guest.(rent "Waiting for Guffman", a hilarious movie) And he's married to Jamie Lee Curtis!!
Woody Allen (before we started to have our doubts about his sanity and (possible) relationships with the very young.

Jerry Fallwell, his "Telletubbies debacle had me howling for days
Rush Limbaugh, For constantly saying he bases all his opinions on "the facts alone".
Bill Clinton, for "I feel your pain", and for saying he "respects women". And of course for "seeking religious counselling", and perhaps even being believed by some! On second thought, that ain't funny,(even to me) it's sad.
Bob Dole, for wishing the "Brooklyn Dodgers" good luck 2 years ago!

Unfunny.
Adam Sandler
Jerry Lewis. (I still like French Cooking though)
John Candy, Dan Ackroyd, John Belushi, and every other formerly funny sketch comedian who tried to sustain it over two hour movies.
Robin Williams, who I thought was hilarious at the beginning.
WILL SMITH!

Very Unfunny.
Bill Cosby
Whoopie Goldberg
Jimmie (J J) Walker, who must be a very nice guy, cause Letterman has him on all the time, and his career's been over for twenty years!
ROSIE O'DONELL!

Any Thoughts?


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Margo
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 02:05 PM

FUNNY:

Red Skelton Marx Brothers Zero Mostel Jaques Tatis Tom Lehrer Wierd Al Yankovich

NOT FUNNY:

Jerry Lewis Bill Cosby Most commedians nowadays

I agree, Rick. Clinton is ludicrous.

Margarita


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Tony Burns
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 02:12 PM

What? No mention of Don Rickles? (The most pathetic excuse for a comedian ever.)


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: John OSh
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 02:13 PM

Funny:

Bill Murray (especially his understated humor in Rushmore) PJ O'Rourke in his essays Phil Hartman (RIP) The 3 Stooges (most modern "physical" comedians are pale rip offs of these funny men) Chris Farley (RIP) Conan O'Brien (very good, warped sense) John Candy Mike Meyers Buster Keaton Mel Brooks, Sid Ceasar and anyone associated w/ Show of Shows Jackie Gleason

Unfunny:

Rosie O'Donnell Howard Stern/ "Mancow" Muller - Two of the greatest idiots ever to grace any form of media Jerry Seinfield (the show was funny, he is not) Chris Rock Magic Johnson (as he tried his show) and WHOOPIE - quite possibly the worst comedian/actress ever to walk the earth.

Many others could be listed in either category based on individual performances, but I will bid adieu


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 02:33 PM

Gee, beg to differ, early Bill Cosby is extremely funny -- The first four or five albums are brilliant word pictures. I have no idea what happened after that (being TV deprived).
The two funniest movies I have ever seen were the first Monty Python film, and La Cage aux Folles. They are the only two films I have ever seen where the audience became giddily hysterical -- that exquisite moment when the audience just cannot stop laughing, and it gets worse. La Cage Aux Folles was particularly good because with subtitles people could laugh, and not be afraid of missing the jokes. There are few moments like that in Mel Brooks ("Springtime for Hitler"), but they don't sustain themselves for me, anyway. They need to build, and build, and build. What you want to do is walk out of the moviehouse or theatre sick from exhaustion from laughing. In the theatre you can do this, mostly in farce (Tom Stoppard's On the Razzle I have seen do this to an audience. Shakespeare's Midsummer Nights Dream done well, and Much Ado About Nothing done well can do it too in the theatre, not on film yet anyway), but in films it is very rare.
As a onetime actor/director, I have been able to induce it once or twice in an audience, and it is unbelievably exhilirating. It is like nothing else on earth. I once was a minor player in a play that did that, and the actors were all backstage afterwards screaming and weeping with joy.
Yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Fadac
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 03:04 PM

Funny: What's my line, the Drew Carry version. It was dumb, but I found myself laughing anyway. Oldtime funny: Red Skeleton, Erni Kovac, I'm stuck, there was a guy that had a crazy band in the 1940's and 50's, they used about everything to make music, execpt for regular instruments. Gunshots, ford bumpers, wood poles, augh, I can't think of the name. One of there best tunes was "Beatlebomb" the race horse.

Unfunny, anyone that has to use blue language to get a laugh. That just shows that they don't know what they are doing.

-Fadac


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Peter T.
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 03:15 PM

Spike Jones, Fadac.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Fadac
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 03:51 PM

Yup, Thanks Peter. I have a video tape of him, in B&W, still fresh, and still funny. -Fadac


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Jack (Who is called Jack)
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 03:55 PM

Funny. Fred Allen MST3K (on a good night). Monty Python & the Holy Grail The original radio broadcasts of Hitchikers Guide to the Galaxy (especially Marvin the Paranoid Android). The Marx Brothers, anywhere, anytime, especially Groucho. Early Bill Cosby (Hofstra remains one of my all time favorites). The Firesign Theatre. P.J. O'Rourke before he got too overtly political. Mort Sahl. Harold Ramis - as a screenwriter. Early George Carlin The old soap opera spoof 'SOAP'. Rob Becker. Bob Dole hawking Viagra.

Not Funny. The Three Stooges (maybe its just me, but I don't laugh ) Don Imus, Howard Stern, Rush, et al. Misogyny (see above) Jerry Lewis Ernest (in his movies, know what I mean?)


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 04:05 PM

As was originally stated, humor is in the mind of the beholder, so to speak. Many of my favorites are writers and I do have genuine appreciation for quick witted, somewhat cynical, wordsmiths such as George S. Kaufman, who once turned to a babbling dinner partner and asked, "Madam, do you have any unexpressed thoughts?" I would love to have lived in the times of the Algonquin Round Table group...just to be a fly on the wall. Woolcott, Braun, Parker...........

Of course there is Woody Allen, whose writing always cracked me up for his ability to juxtapose the ridiculous and the ludicrous. Obviously this influences me, ie., when I said the Reg boys were arrested for "eating nine flats of marigolds," (ridiculous) "and a Barcalounger." (ludicrous)......I also like Fran Lebowitz who observed, "On this block (in NYC) there are five places that sell croissants. One is called 'Bon Jour Croissant.' Makes me want to go to Paris and open up a place called 'Hello Toast'." And if you're curmudgeonly at all, reading Ambrose Bierce is a must: from the "Devil's Dictionary"--"History: An account, mostly false, of events, mostly unimportant, brought about by Rulers, mostly knaves, and soldiers, mostly fools."

Then there was Lenny and regardless of personal problems, he certainly had an insight into our culture and his social commentary was often too true. In the stand-up world, I've always had a taste for the performer who could make me squirm, laugh, and cry at the same time. I know he has offended a lot of people, but the all time star of this is Richard Pryor. One time through the "Wino and the Junkie" ..........it's too true, it's funny, it's pathetic.

This is getting too long....be back later. BTW, I like a lot of the choices I've read so far...Good thread Rick...and Rick,FYI--a Barcalounger is a brand of recliner. These overstuffed behemoths are often occupied by a large dog (like mine is by the stupid weimaraner), hence the name. Or maybe it's one of the stars in the constellation of "Willie, the Urinal Scrubber." I forget these things.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Bert
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 04:14 PM

Funny: Billy Connolly, Red Dwarf, Fawlty Towers, Early Carry-On films, Marsha Warfield, Dad's Army, 'allo 'allo, The Goons, Ken Dodd, Early Absolutely Fab.

Funny sometimes: Robin Williams, Steve Martin, Whoopie Goldberg, Bill Murray, Chris Farley, Gallagher, Laverne & Shirley, Brian Rix.

Rarely funny: Marx Brothers, Monty Python, Three Stooges, Peter Sellers (the worst of the Goons), Black Adder.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: annamill
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 04:19 PM

I think Catspaw's pretty funny.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Bert
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 04:24 PM

'Funny peculiar' or 'funny Ha Ha'?


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: annamill
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 04:26 PM

Bert, Yes.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 05:06 PM

Me too.

Actually, I'm probably damaged in some way because I find a lot of everyone's "unfunny" examples hilarious at times. Well, I can't stand Jerry Lewis. I love an awful lot of British humo(u)r - Monty Python, AbFab, Hitchiker's Guide, anything by Terry Pratchett and (big YES) Red Dwarf. The Americans everyone has mentioned are funny, but not as good (to me) as the British. Well, except for maybe Stephen Wright. I just like irony.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Mudjack
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 05:23 PM

Heck I think Charlton Heston with his campaign for the NRA is funny.
I must be getting a strange since of humor, I thought " Something about Mary" was as funny as it gets. I'm not deprived of TV but just deprived of any good programming. I do tape Politically Incorrect and try to get past the arguing. The comedy can sneak out once in a while.The thread makes me recall all the greats and not so great anymore. My vote has to go to the infamous Spaw
Mudjack


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: JOfield
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 05:47 PM

Living in Europe for over a year now, I've had ample opportunity to watch lots of BBC 'comedy' shows. I find AbFab, the Young Ones, etc., stultifyingly un-funny. They are from the "God, aren't we hilarious." school of acting, which is, of course, the kiss of death, comedy-wise. Nothing but mugging and poorly-executed pratfalls. Give me any Seinfeld or any Simpsons any day. Americans seemed to have learned how to get intelligent laughs out of irony and satire in way that has eluded -- or escaped -- the Brits. As for who's funny, I go back to Sid Caesar, though his material doesn't hold up as well today as Jackie Gleason's still does. Guys like Buddy Hackett and Dom DeLouise were funny saying almost anything. Ever heard recordings of Woody Allen's standup routines? Killer. I have a special place in my heart for Steve Martin -- and Steve Allen, for that matter. Jim Carrey aside, almost none of the current youngsters know what comedy is. Adam Sandler is President-For-Life of the Thank You, Lord Club (He succeeds Tony Danza). Didn't every one of us go to high school with someone just like Sandler -- only funnier?

James in Paris.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 06:23 PM

A few really funny movies (we've said enough about Young Frankenstein): Where's Poppa, The Adventures of Rabbi Jacob (?), The Ladykillers (Alec Guinness and Peter Sellers both at top form), The Wrong Box (Peter Sellers, Dudley Moore, his partner of old Peter Cook, and many others), The Twelve Chairs, The General, Steamboat Bill, Junior, Safety Last;, the first of the Pink Panther sequels--what was its name?

In music, Ron Thomason of the Dry Branch Fire Squad, the Austin Lounge Lizards.

Gotta go--have a dr.'s apptmt. (and gotta rid my bladder of some lasix) now that's funny.

--seed


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Alice
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 06:30 PM

I love Lucy, whether she's trying to get into Ricky's act, or working at the chocolate factory, whatever, great timing, great expression.
Burns and Allen, Danny Kaye, and Laurel & Hardy.
Never liked the 3 stooges. Hitting and insults just aren't funny to me.
I like most of the British comedies that make their way to American tv. I also liked the Australian series, 'Mother and Son'.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 07:10 PM

Monty Python and the Holy Grail is the be all and end all. (but of corze AH'm french, Why do zhink, I have zis outrageous accent?) Python usually do it for me, primarily John Cleese, who I also loved as Basil Fawlty. He and Kevin Kline were great in A Fish Called Wanda. Kline was also great in Mystic Pizza. The first time I ever saw the Marx Bros was the night I got home from the hospital after a hernia operation. I laughed so hard that I almost burst the stitches and of course the pain was terrible, but I couldn't tear myself away from the T.V. I think Groucho had the quickest comedic mind I've ever seen, but I also loved Harpo's Faces and antics and Chico's butchering of the language and he was a great straight man for Groucho.

I liked W.C. Fields, couldn't stand the Stooges, loved early Saturday Night Live, I miss Steve Martin's Stand Up, Steven Wright never fails to break me up.

Remember another Mel Brooks work? Get Smart, used to race home from school every day to see it. I wonder If I would still find it funny.

Bseed, good one with Where's Poppa, I was just thinking of that the other day.

I loved early Cosby, someone mentioned his Hofstra routine, one of the funniest things I've ever heard, but I also loved Noah's Ark and the one about being locked in his room listening to Inner Sanctum. He seemed to become full of himself in the seventies and I can't stand his later stuff.

As a Canadian I'm proud of the comedians that have come from here, Candy, Meyers, Carrey, Ackroyd etc. But we also produced the most unfunny yet seemingly popular 'comedy' team of all time, Wayne & Shuster.

The Commitments was hilarious, Spinal Tap made me rethink how I felt about Led Zeppelin et. al. Sellers as Inspector Closeau was great, but the movies wouldn't have been the same without Herbert Lom as Chief Inspector Dreyfuss.

Sorry for the stream of conciuosness thread. I might like comedy more than I like music. I spend my life waiting for straight lines and reasons to laugh. Oh yeah, Bob Dylan cracked me up a times, I Shall Be free and others of that ilk. I think all Dylan fans get so caught up in his serious stuff that we forgot just how funny he could be when he was loose.

Here comes the vaudeville hook, bye.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Dan
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 07:31 PM

Bud Abbott and Lou Costello were funny as hell; so was George Goble. My family laughs at the Pink Panther a lot. My favorite is the time he gets tangled up in that suit of armor, and, oh, yeah, the vacuum cleaner scene. I can't name too many unfunny people because I reroute my mind. Last week I walked out of that stupid movie about the 60's detective who came back. It was so stupid and disgusting I can't remember the name.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Tiger
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 07:32 PM

Amazing consistency in this thread (with a few exceptions). Surprised not to see Jonathan Winters, Smothers Brothers, and Steve Allen.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: DWDitty
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 08:01 PM

Tom Waits, the 1st Bert & I record, Shel Silverstein, Kenneth Patchen, Art Thieme, my friend Ralph Durante, Kramer, Elaine, and George, Dennis Leary (way over the top-but I can't stand the Bee Gees either), Clem Kaddidlehopper (Red Skelton), Roy Book Binder.

Unfunny: Adam Sandler, Chris Farley, Paulie Shore, Rosie O'Donnell, Jerry Springer (even if he isn't trying to be), Jerry Falwell, Jerry Seinfeld, Jerry Mathers, Jerry Lewis, ...do I sense a pattern here?

DW


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rita64
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 08:10 PM

No offence to all you good folk but GENERALLY I have always found American humour extremely unfunny, groanworthy and sometimes painful. There are few exceptions ...

Give me devastating dry wit any time. Australian humour is like an "in joke" incomprehensible to those on the outside - I grew up with it and I love it.

I agree, Monty Python & The Holy Grail is a masterpiece.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: alison
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 08:35 PM

As an outsider some Aussie humour is just not funny, or maybe you had to be there..... but a lot of it is just too racist and chauvanistic for my liking...... admittedly some of this is a specific ethnic group taking the hand out of themselves, but I still find it offensive. Other Aussie stuff is great.

Can't stand US stuff with excessive canned laughter. But did like Cheers, MASH, etc

Being brought up in th UK I like Billy Connolly, Jasper Carrott, Monty Python especially Holy Grail, Rowan Atkinson, Dave Allen, The Two Ronnies, Morecambe and Wise, Lenny Henry(loathe Ab Fab, Norman Wisdom, Jerry Lewis and the 3 Stooges)

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Jeri
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 08:45 PM

DWDitty - are you trying to tell me something?


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: puzzled
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 08:52 PM

Buster Keaton and Laurel and Hardy silent films are great for laughs. Harold Lloyd's are too. I have attended silent film festivals where the audience was laughing so hard that everyone left exhausted.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 09:02 PM

I think the funniest movie of all time is one I mentioned above, but to which no one responded: Harold Lloyd's masterpiece, Safety Last.

Probably the hardest I ever laughed was at a Victor Borge "concert." I lost my voice and my stomach ached from non-stop spasms of merriment.

Some of the early Muppets routines on Sesame Street were classics, in particular "Lulu's Back in Town."

And of course, The Wrong Trousers and A Close Shave--the incredible Nick Park's wonderful claymation (it's been a while since he made those two--and a somewhat lesser one, A Fine Day Out. His work in the gas commercials (the talking cars) is so good that I remember the comedy, but not the gas company. It's probably one I boycott for something or other, anyway.

--seed


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 09:41 PM

Hey seed---say what?....Anyway, Hi.

I gotta' agree about Harold Lloyd in general. Very creative, and supremely funny. His later talkie stuff is generally panned, but I like it too. The Sins of Harold Diddlebock continues to keep me laughing. I liked Buster Keaton too and no one ever mentions a 30 minute or so thing he did for the Canadian Pacific. Walks out of the Atlantic and rides a gas powered handcar to the Pacific. He was close to the end at the time, but in many ways it was as funny as anything he'd ever done.

catspaw


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: catspaw49
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 09:43 PM

Hey seed---say what?....Anyway, Hi.

I gotta' agree about Harold Lloyd in general. Very creative, and supremely funny. His later talkie stuff is generally panned, but I like it too. The Sins of Harold Diddlebock continues to keep me laughing. I liked Buster Keaton too and no one ever mentions a 30 minute or so thing he did for the Canadian Pacific. Walks out of the Atlantic and rides a gas powered handcar to the Pacific. He was close to the end at the time, but in many ways it was as funny as anything he'd ever done.

catspaw


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From: katlaughing
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 10:18 PM

Many of the above mentioned, esp. Dave Allen and John Cleese, but nobody has mentioned George Carlin...talk about irony!

katlaughing


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From: LEJ
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 10:56 PM

Funniest Movie- My all time favorite has to be A Funny Thing Happened on the Way to the Forum. It is the perfect mix of comic values; a blistering pace, ridiculous pratfalls, mistaken identities, double entendres, and Zero Mostel. When I watch it I get tears of sheer joy. Other great movies, Mel's Young Frank of course, as well as Blazing Saddles, High Anxiety, and The Producers, Woody's Play It Again Sam, and the one wwhere Woody is frozen and thawed in the future, Airplane (the first time),Trains,Planes and Automobiles, and Sellers in The PInk Panther. I've got to admit I loved Ace Ventura, both movies (The escape from the rhino is a true classic."Oh, look children! The mother rhino is giving birth!")

Funniest TV show- Barney Miller. The one where a cake full of pot was seized as evidence, then eaten by the crew at Fish's birthday party was gut-wrenchingly funny. Also Monty Python, Taxi, Cheers, Fernwood Tonight and The Carol Burnette Show, Seinfeld Funniest comedian or Comedy Group- Jonathan Winters was the all-time master of the ad-lib, and Robin Williams owes him everything. John Candy was great on Second City, and in Planes, Trains. Also Firesign (Most o the time),Letterman, the new Daily Show host, early Steve Martin,Stephen Wright,Rowan Atkinson,a lot of Chevy Chase.

Not Funny!- Green Acres. I used to actually get claustrophobic if I had to watch more than 5 minutes. Petticoat Junction, which was a spinoff of Acres. The Marx Bros (most of the time), The Three Stooges (all of the time), Mike Meyers as Austin Powers, Jerry Lewis, Adam Sandler,and the guy who does the musical political satires, yeah-Mark Russell!"And now my salute to Monica Lewinsky, to the tune of 'I've Been Workin' on the Railroad!'" Which reminds me of Weird Al Yankovic, who is also trying way too hard. And you English People! Some of the stuff that you find funny! My wife sat me down to watch some guy called "Magical Cooper"! She's in hysterics, and I keep going "What? What'd he say? What's funny?"

I also think Seed, Art, Catspaw, Alice, Fielding, Peter T,Bert, Katlaughing, SeanM, fadac and some of you others are extremely humorous. And I really think Skarpi is putting us all on.

LEJ


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From:
Date: 30 Jun 99 - 11:03 PM

Wait a minute. It might be a mirage...

BSeed, I believe it was called "Shot in the Dark". very, very funny. I say this "in a rit of fealous jage".

I can go way, way back... I love the old English humor.

Can anyone tell me the one about a girls school with an early Peter Sellers. A famous male actor played the head mistress. The English do seem to like to dress in drag. "NOI" **GRIN**

Alec Guiness in "A Man in a White Suit". At least I think it was he.

Here's a quiz. I don't remember his name, but only because it's 11pm and I've had a couple and it was a tough day. Here's a line:

"The other pup was called Liberace, because he was the peeinest/pianist". He was also English. He was in "The Magnificent Men in Their Flying Machines". Whoaa.. there is a funny movie. If no one remembers, I'll get it tomorrow. He played a German guard.

Oh damn, I could go on forever.

Have a good night. Love, annap


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: alison
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 12:05 AM

There was one where Alastair Sims dressed in drag s a head mistress. can't remember the name.

There is another beautiful old black and white classic 'Happiest days of their lives" where Alastair sims and Margaret Rutherford play a head master and mistress respectively of a boys and girls boarding school which mistakenly get lumped in together... add in parents visiting and them trying to cover up the fact that the other school is there... great stuff

we're getting re runs of Father Ted here... great Irish comedy....... 3 priests. middle of nowhere......

Helen.. I thought they were just repeating the first series of Red Dwarf..... they didn't remake it did they?

slainte

alison


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From: thosp
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 12:31 AM

gracie allen--- p.g.wodehouse---are you being served---victor borge---and the gallows humor of the political arena


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 01:28 AM

Oh My God!! Does anybody feel like I do right now? I want to hear and see so many of these wonderful people again. So many that I'd forgotten to list. TONY HANCOCK, The Producers etc. etc. I want to listen to early Bill Cosby to see if he actually WAS funny. My memory says maybe so.

My humble apologies for loving AB FAB. I know it's vicious, nasty and mean spirited but Heather and I roar with laughter when we see it. And Tom Lehrer! Brilliant!

And I forgot my all-time spiritual and philosophical guru, Quentin Crisp. And Stephen Fry, and Spike Milligan and, and.......


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From: Mark Roffe
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 01:31 AM

Sidney J. Perelman (b.2/1/04, d.10/17/79), better know as S.J. Perelman. He wrote the dialog for most of the best Marx Bros. movies, as well as some of the funniest books in the world. His works include:

Movies by Perelman:
1) Monkey Business (1931)
2) Horse Feathers (1932)
3) Animal Crackers (?)
4) Around the World in 80 Days (1956)

Books by Perelman:
1) Crazy like a Fox (1944)
2) Strictly from Hunger (1937)
3) Look Who's Talking! (1940)
4) Westward Ha! (1948), Simon & Schuster (Illustrated by Hirschfeld)
5) The Swiss Family Perelman (1949), (illustrated by Hirschfeld)
6) Vinegar Puss (includes "Around the Bend in 80 Days") (1975)
7) Eastward, Ha! (1977)
8) Dawn Ginsbergh's Revenge (includes "How to fall out of a Hammock")
9) The Last Laugh
10) Whiskey Sours (w/Quentin Reynolds, 1930)
11) Acres and Pains (1947)
12) The Ill-Tempered Clavichord (1952) (includes "Swing Out, Sweet Opiate")
13) Keep it Crisp
14) The Most of S.J. Perelman (includes "Farewell, My Lovely Appetizer")
15) Listen to the Mocking Bird
16) Chicken Inspector No. 23 (1966)
17) The Road to Miltown (1957)
18) The Rising Gorge (includes "Small Bore in Africa, or, Dr. Perelman, I Presume)
19) Perelman's Home Companion (1955)
20) Baby, It's Cold Inside (1968?)

Magazines:
1) New Yorker (50 yrs)
2) Holiday

Plays/shows by Perelman:
1) All Good Americans (+ film)
2) The Night before Christmas (+film)
3) One Touch of Venus (w/Ogden Nash) (1943)
4) Sweet Bye and Bye (w/Al Hirschfeld, songs by Vernon Duke) (1946)
5) The Beauty Part (Lahr) 1962
6) Gang Aft Aglee ('46)
7) Aladdin (w/Cole Porter) 1958
8) That's Entertainment (music and lyrics by Howard Dietz and Arthur Schwartz), 1972

TV by Perelman:
1) The Big Wheel (starring Bert Lahr)
2) Malice in Wonderland (Lahr)

Books about Perelman:
1) S.J. Perelman: A Life, Dorothy Herrmann, Putnam 1986
2) That Old Gang o' Mine:L The Early and Essential S.J. Perelman, Richard Marschall, Morrow, 1984
3) "That Perelman of Great Price is 65", William Zinsser, New York TImes Magazine, 1/26/69
4) Don't Mention the Marx Brothers: Escapades with S.J. Perelman, Eric Lister, Sussex, England, The Book Guild, 1985

Other funny people include:
Robert Benchley (His son Peter, not a humorist, wrote Jaws, but Robert was a scream),
Sid Caeser,
whoops, gotta run....more later maybe,

Bark Woof


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 01:41 AM

Oops, forgot Peter Schikele (sp). P.D.Q. Bach.


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From: gargoyle
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 01:46 AM

RickFielding

catspaw49

CharlesKratz

Katlaughing


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 02:59 AM

A couple more Alec Guiness movies: Kind Hearts and Coronets, and The Lavender Hill Mob. Gerald McBoingBoing. Glenn Close as Cruella DeVille.

Bloom County, particularly the anxiety claset. WKRP--Les Nesman

Taxi, definitely, particularly Rev. Jim and Latka.

Speaking of The New Yorker, the original Charles Addams cartoons (the movies had some good moments)

Definitely not funny, and totally lacking in acting ability: Roseanne

Ya stuck me in some great company there, Gargoyle. Of course I know you're being sarcastic. --seed

Almost less funnier (more funniless?) than Roseanne: The Nanny.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Roger the zimmer
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 03:49 AM

as well as many of those mentioned I like the slow burn of Rob Wilton and Jack Benny
Who's not funny?
Well, I'm less funny than I try to be!


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Bert
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 08:32 AM

Can anyone tell me the one about a girls school with an early Peter Sellers. A famous male actor played the head mistress.

That was "The Belles of St. Trinians". Great Movie.

The English do seem to like to dress in drag. "NOI" **GRIN** --- Ah yes - You've just reminded me of how much I miss a good Panto.

"Happiest days of your life" was filmed in part at the School I went to (Churcher's College, Petersfield, Hants)and Margaret Rutherford came and visited us one year on speech day.

You guys have reminded me of so many funny ones that I had forgotten.

Seeing as we're including authors as well, I bet you can't read "Wilt" by Tom Sharpe without laughing out loud. And "Trapp's War" by Brian Callison is anouther masterpiece.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: alison
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 09:17 AM

Did they rerun Taxi in the US.. I only remember it being shown once in the UK... which was a pity. always reckoned that once the cast all became big stars they might not have wanted it repeated.

slainte

alison


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Mike Billo
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 10:00 AM

Funny; Buster Keaton, W.C Fields, The Three Stooges, Mystery Science Theater 3000, Christine Lavin, Spike Milligan, Spike Jones, Jonathan and Darlene Edwards, Lord Buckley, Carol Leifer, and all of the Fleischer Bros. Cartoons (Boop, early Popeye, etc.).

Not Funny; Charlie Chaplin(talented, but not funny), Peter Sellers, Bill Cosby, Jerry Lewis, Sinbad(his career is an enigma to me),Paula Poundstone.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: annamill
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 10:03 AM

Good morning,

I'm better now. Benny Hill.

Yes, Alastair Sim in "The Belles of St. Trinians". I love it. Thank you Bert, Alison.

BSeed, I have The Lavender Hill Mob on tape. It is wonderful. Alec Guiness did genius type work in Kind Hearts and Coronets. Of course he is a genius.

Very, very NOT funny. I think it's incredibly sad. "Married with Children".I don't find even one of the characters funny. I scares me that it's a hit.

I used to find Roseanne funny when she first started. I actually laughed out loud. Recently, though...oh well.

Have a wonderful day. Love, Anna


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 11:37 AM

Funny: Abbott and Costello AND Flanders and Swan. Now do you see how messed up I am?


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 11:41 AM

Ahaa! I think Gargoyle feels our "left of Attila the Hun" political stances are what makes us funny. Oh well, I'm in good company!


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: LEJ
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 11:53 AM

Why are leftwingers so much funnier than right wingers? P J O'Rourke is the only funny conservative I can think of.


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From: Jeri
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 12:07 PM

LEJ, a lot of conservatives are funny, it's just not intentional. Dan Quale, f'rinstance is a hoot and a half. Nobody's mentioned Dave Barry, yet. Who's the guy who sings those political songs and plays piano on PBS specials - Mark Somebody? And Capitol Steps, and Dilbert.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: moonchild
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 12:37 PM

Have to admit I still watch I Love Lucy almost every night and still laugh. Gracie Allen was dry, funny, and brilliant. Tom Waits, George Carlin. "Are You Being Served" "WKRP In Cincinatti" "Taxi" "Mad About You" Freddie Prinze stand-up. Early Bill Cosby. "Dennis Miller Live"

I'm not an afficiado of comedy movies.

Very unfunny ... Eddie Murphy and most of today's comics' stand-up. moonchild


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From: Easy Rider
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 01:03 PM

Funny: very VERY early Jerry Lewis & Dean Martin.

The funniest movie of all time: "Some Like it Hot" Another funny movie: "The Inlaws".

EZR


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Llanfair
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 04:47 PM

There seem to be at least two camps here, those that like slapstick, and those who don't. I'm much too empathic to laugh at someone slipping on a banana skin, so I miss out on a lot of humour. I hate Alan Partridge, 3 stooges, that sort of stuff, love Alec Guinness, the two Ronnies, Frasier, (and Niles) The Fast Show, Red Dwarf, and Friends. Hwyl, Bron.


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From: puzzled
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 05:46 PM

a friend of mine recently picked up a couple of early Bill Cosby albums at a garage sale. We still laughed alot when we listened to them.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 06:27 PM

No mention of "I'm sorry I'll read that again". No Goon SHow. No Michael Bentine. No Frankie Howerd. No Steptoe (not to my taste, but........ No original (not the US remake)of "Till death do us part". Aand that hilarious SF author where the Perverts come from Perv -etc, the "nother fine Myth seriies - gottit, Robert Asprin. No TW3. Some classics missing here!

And I HATE "the Young ones". French and Saunders are boring. Ben Elton is a one-joke man. But the fat girl with the PMT jokes can be amusing.

Lily Savage and Julian Clary can be funny - sometimes.

Les Dawson and Jim Davidson can be politically incorrect - but watch the timing! It's masterful.


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From: Rick Fielding
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 06:37 PM

Prior to about 1970 I used to hear a lot of right wing humour at bluegrass bars (most bands still had a comedian of sorts, although the "blackface" and "nigger" jokes had all but run their course by the early sixties. I've heard radio transcripts from the 40s that would curl your hair. I think when we talk of "right wing" humour, and there not being much of it, we really mean a kind of upscale "rich vs. poor" type. 'It's just easier for poor people to make jokes about rich people..lots bigger audiences as well.
On any Rush Limbaugh program you can hear absolutely brilliant parodies aimed at Democrats and Clinton specifically. Far better than the incredibly lame stuff that Mark Russell (ostensibly a democrat) does. Now my feeling is that it's all a total crock. One politician is very similar to another (and of course Rush and his ilk use the carefully crafted buzz words that really mean "Jews with money", and "blacks on welfare" in order not to seem blatantly racist) but my feeling is that if the writer has skills they can make you laugh no matter what side of the fence you're on. I've always been a lefty, but if I can't laugh at myself I'm in danger of becoming a dogmatic lefty.
rick (har har)


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 07:30 PM

I read Mel Brooks' definition of the difference between Tragedy and Comedy:

"You fall down a manhole and break your neck - that's comedy. I get a hangnail - that's tragedy!"

Bark Woof


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From: Captain Swing
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 08:01 PM

Vin Garbutt - see him in a small club.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Jeri
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 08:40 PM

Rick, I haven't seen too many current righties who are very adroit at humor. Either they aren't funny, or I get too pissed off at them to think they're amusing. But I'm sure there are some right wingers out there who think all lefties are sinister.

Jeri (running like hell)


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: catspaw49
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 08:58 PM

Hey Bark Woof....Thanks for the SJ bio, and I should have mentioned him in my first post. All the writers associated with the Marx brothers were wonderfully witty, funny, intelligent people. BTW, Kaufman and Ryskind wrote "Animal Crackers."

EVERYONE ELSE----WHAT A THREAD!!!--- love or hate, this is one hell of a litany of funny people. Like Rick, I keep wanting to go back and read/listen/watch all of them again. And I know that so many people would consider that a waste of time. Once again, here at Mudcat, I think we'd all understand. Perhaps we have a group perspective on the "important things" in life that differs from much of the world. Perhaps that's why we're all here in this folky old village.

Not the same exactly, but I can't help but think of Oscar Levant's line, "So little time; nothing to do."

catspaw


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From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 01 Jul 99 - 09:11 PM

"The Party".


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Bert
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 09:11 AM

Richard Bridge, You're right. There's just too many that have been missed. I don't think we'll ever get them all.
Here's a few more funny ones from the past that we have missed. Just from England there's....

Tommy Handley, Ted Ray, Jimmy Edwards, Arthur Askey, Max Wall, Max Bygraves, Tommy Trinder, Arthur English, Michael Bentine, Harry Secombe, Kenneth Horne, Kenneth Williams, Jon Pertwee, Richard Murdoch, and so on and so on.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Dan
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 09:21 AM

I don't know about funny, but Dick Van Dyke could fall better than anybody I've ever seen. As for funny movies, "My Cousin Vinny," "Arthur" and "Princess Bride" were knee-slappers.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: annamill
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 09:38 AM

Bert, I feel really out of it and I don't even know if I should feel stupid too. I didn't know one of those people you mentioned. :+| Are they authors, comedy writers,comedians? Sorry. And if they are all that funny, perhaps I'd like to become familiar with them.

Love, annap


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Peter T.
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 10:51 AM

--seed, how could one forget The Wrong Trousers? I laugh myself sick every time I see it (that wonderful music! Feathers McGaw! Stop! Stop!)
[turns off VCR]

A few classics:
Jonathan Swift, "A Modest Proposal";
Malvolio's gulling scene in "Twelfth Night";
The screen scene in "A School for Scandal";
Every moment of "The Importance of Being Earnest"( easily the funniest English play);
and, in homage to the True Detectives Thread, Catch 22 (Where are the Snowdens of Yesteryear?)
sad and humanely funny at the same time:
Chekov, everything in Chekov (the film "Vanya on 42 Street" is one of the best films of the last 10 years);
Sir Andrew Aguecheek in Twelfth Night (the late night scene);
Beatrice and Benedict, the one-time lovers in Much Ado About Nothing;
Le Misanthrope
"She Stoops to Conquer". More classics: every episode of the "The Honeymooners". Best Bill Cosby: Chicken Heart, perhaps.
yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Bert
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 11:35 AM

Sorry Annap, Just showing my age there. They were for the most part stand up comedians from steam radio in England from the late Forties on.

Those in the list that you should know are...
Arthur English who was one of the janitors on 'Are you being served' He was the one with the cheeky grin, not the miserable one.
Jon Pertwee was best known as the Third Dr Who. Jon Pertwee
He was also one of "The Carry on" crowd.
Michael Bentine was one of the Goons. Invented "The Bumblies" and he too was one of "The Carry on" crowd.
Kenneth Williams is probable best known from "The Carry on" movies but did a lot of good stuff on his own. One of his "party pieces" was talking gibberish in many different languages. He would start talking and it sounded English but you couldn't understand a word of it; then while he was still talking, the gibberish would be French, the German, then Welsh, then Indian and so on.
Sir Harry Secombe was also one of the Goons but kind of phased out his comedy act in favor of singing. He has a great voice.

Bert.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: walrus
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 12:09 PM

Thanks for the memories,

I started reading this thread and drifted of into a world of memories of BBC radio humour and Ealing comedies (some were dire but there was a rich vein of gold among the dross).

Am I the only one here that thinks Rowan Atkinson's "Mr Bean" is about as funny as breaking your own legs with hammer?

Walrus.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Bert
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 12:47 PM

I agree, I can't watch Mr Bean, it's dreadful.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 07:44 PM

Heather's dad (about 76 years old) came over from Glasgow to visit us, and being a considerate son-in law, I tried to talk "Scottish" at dinner. I said how much I loved Billy Connelly - just thought he was absolutely hilarious. Her father winced and said, "He's the filthiest man on the planet and is a disgrace to Scotland!" Oops!


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 02 Jul 99 - 08:05 PM

Peter, glad you mentioned Catch 22. It simplifies my post if I can stick to non-fiction:

I laughed myself sick flying across the Pacific while reading Midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil. The movie just made me sick.

And then there's Angela's Ashes--laughing and crying at the same time. What a book!

--seed


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 03 Jul 99 - 01:23 AM

I can't think of many people who are funnier than Lionel Jeffries in almost any role I swa him in. Usually as a Bobby or a prison guard after Peter Sellars or as Budgie Potts in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang. He made laugh out loud. I last saw him on a Lovejoy episode, still funny.

Is he still alive.?

Don


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From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 03 Jul 99 - 02:05 AM

Seed and Peter T..." That's a hell of a catch, that Catch 22!"..."It's the best there is!"

And Tim J...I loved The Party. A bit dated with it's 60's ambiance, but Sellers was at his best."Birdie Num-nums."


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Craig
Date: 03 Jul 99 - 03:18 PM

Funny; Monte Python, P.D.Q. Bach (Peter Schickele), early Bill Cosby, Victor Borge, Buster Keaton, Red Skelton, Mel Brookes and his movies, The Carol Burnette Show, It Happened One Night,....

Unfunny; Lucille Ball, Jerry Lewis, Roseanne, most of the new stand up comics, Don Rickles,....

Craig


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 03 Jul 99 - 04:51 PM

Don, I remember Lionel Jeffries in a quaint little space picture. I think it was "From the Earth to The Moon". He was definitely the bright light in that. Good comic.


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From: Don Meixner
Date: 03 Jul 99 - 05:24 PM

Rick,

As Dr Cavor, inventor of Cavorite, an element which repels gravity. He was along with Edward Judd and Mary Ure. A favorite film of mine from my youth. I always felt he'd have made a fine Dr. Who.

Don


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 03 Jul 99 - 05:51 PM

Leej, a hell of a book:

Orr's apple cheeks
Milo Minderbinder's chocolate covered cotton
Major Major Major Major
Doc Daneeka

"Yossarian, come quick! They're disappearing Dunbar."
"Whaddaya mean, they're disappearing him. That's not even grammatical." (Uninformed writers have attributed the origin of that use of "disappeared" to everyone but Joseph Heller)

"I yearn for you tragically. A. T. Tapman, Chaplain, USAAF." (see where I got it, Harpgirl?)

Milo Minderbinder's contracting with the Germans to bomb Pianosa. (kind of like US oil companies providing fuel to both the Allies and the Germans)
Lieutenant (later, General) Sheisskopf ("That shithead") and his desire to stop trainees from swinging their arms as they marched (despite his name he must have been Irish).

I've gotta read it again--it's been too long. --seed


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From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 03 Jul 99 - 08:42 PM

For me with Mr. Bean and the Three Stooges, I find some episodes quite funny and others not at all. The only Three Stooges episode I really liked was the one where they were plumbing a house. They were meant to appeal to little boys -- you will note how short they are or are made to appear compared to other adults in the show.

I did like the Mr. Bean episode where he is doing his laundry.

Laurel and Hardy, the silent short where they are building a house.

That Charlie Chaplin skit where he is rollerskating and being chased by a big brute of a man.

I must be a cruel man, because I rather like the old slapstick. Comes from the crowd I grew up with, I guess, because they would laugh heartily if one fell out of a tree or slipped on dog crap.

Is it true what I am told that much of the Monty Python TV shows were parodies of well-known British television shows of the time? That may be why some of the humour is lost on people now, because they don't know the shows which were being parodied.

I did like The Life of Brian. ("Blessed are the cheesemakers?") Fawlty Towers was excellent farce although I know a lot of people don't like farce. I liked the episode where they were unsuccessfully attempting to hide a dead body in various places around the hotel.

I've rarely liked stand up comedy. Too forced.

And what IS it with the French attraction to Jerry Lewis?


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rita64
Date: 04 Jul 99 - 12:23 AM

Geoffrey Chaucer "The Miller's Tale" - v. funny.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 04 Jul 99 - 12:28 AM

Heather says that she hated Jerry Lewis but LOVED Norman Wisdom. Weren't they the same person?


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Peter T.
Date: 04 Jul 99 - 11:16 AM

--seed, you are right, it is too long. Summertime rereading!
Let us not forget Chief HalfOat, surrounded by oil executives, and of course the famous trial scene:

"Popinjay, is your father a millionaire or a high ranking member of the Senate."
"No sir."
""Then you are up shit creek without a paddle, Popinjay. What the hell kind of a name is Popinjay, anyway?".... "After his trial ends, yours begins!" and so on.
Did anyone mention "Dr. Strangelove?" (Has there ever been a better line than, "You can't fight in here, this is the War Room?")
Yours, Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: The Shambles
Date: 04 Jul 99 - 02:03 PM

LEJ

Is the "Magical Cooper" you refer to the wonderful Tommy Cooper?

He used to wear a fez and his act was a magic act, where everything goes wrong. It was his timing, not the magic that was the act and his 'jokes' had long gone grey before they were written.

Example: A man takes a chicken back to the butcher and says " this chicken has one leg shorter than the other. The butcher replies "what do you want to do, eat it, or dance with it"?

There was a story about how his humour did not travel well to the US..... He was doing a week in Las Vegas and after the management had watched his act for the first three days, they approached him, a little worriedly and said to him "Mr Cooper, we have been watching your act and we really think that you should rehearse a little more".......

Generally I think it is a little unfair to put people into funny or unfunny as it is a hit and miss process and funny people are capable of being very unfunny. Whether unfunny ones can be funny, I'm not too sure. Monty Python is a good example, at it's best it was inspired, but in could be dire. It probably depends on how high their sights are set.

'The Life Of Brian' is Monty Python's finest moment as it is less patchy, than their other work.

Steve Martin always works for me and Parenthood, contains some of his best work. The scene where the lights go back on, just as the words, " I've found the flashlight" are said, as he is seen to be holding the host's vibrator.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Emmie
Date: 04 Jul 99 - 03:20 PM

At the moment Bill Bryson is making me laugh a lot. I am re-reading all his books. I really like silly dancing as well. Anything that has silly dancing in it makes me laugh hysterically. For example Laurel and Hardy did sone brilliant routines, The marx brothers. I love the dance routines that the characters do in the wizard of oz.One of my favourite comedy films of all time is"the producers" I love that line "look at me I'm so poor I'm wearing a cardboard belt!" Emmie


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
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Date: 04 Jul 99 - 03:22 PM

Fair Youngmaid, Ah yes, how could we have got this far without mentioning Chaucer? Also The Carpenter's tale, and I love the Wife of Bath's Prologue.

Bert


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 04 Jul 99 - 08:06 PM

Well, if we are on to books and plays.

I liked the Tudor play Royster Doyster, although it is probably too gross and slapstickish for most people's tastes. The Victorians despised it. I think the insult "thou shitten knave!" be revived.

I've never found Shakespeare's clowns to be very funny at all, although I find Falstaff very funny indeed if acted by the right person.

James Boswell is hilarious, although he didn't mean to be. His London Journal has to be amongst the best in journals in English and a masterpiece of unintentional humour. His other journals have their great moments of unintentional humour, especially those relating his love affairs on the continent, but none so good as the young Boswell.

Pepys could be funny in the same way, especially in his relations of his domestic problems and of the time he found his cellar flooded with turds, but he was too much of a fuddy duddy to be as funny as Boswell. I have only read the Victorian edited version, although I understand a full version is now out containing the racy bits the Victorians cut out. (It also contains an excellent first hand account of the Great Fire of London, and of Pepys encountering a distracted and nearly mad Lord Mayor in the midst of the confusion.)

Diary of A Nobody is funny too. I liked the first Adrian Mole book.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Rick Fielding
Date: 05 Jul 99 - 02:10 AM

When Pepys buys a harp, gives it to his wife as a gift, then quickly despairs when she can't learn, and places it in HIS music room (which he'd planned all along) I laughed hysterically. Times may change, but people don't!
rick


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 05 Jul 99 - 10:23 AM

Has anyone mentioned the Far Side? Talk about out there. My favourite is the two Kangaroos bounding along, one giving the other a dirty look and the caption read "All you have to do is jump, you don't have to go 'Boing, Boing, Boing."

I am so sorry that Gary Larson has retired, what a comedic mind!!

It was nice to be reminded of Dave Allen, he had great delivery and his merciless rips at the church floored me. Father Ted cracked me up too.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Peter T.
Date: 05 Jul 99 - 10:45 AM

Thurber: --
"Perhaps This Will Refresh Your Memory!"
"I was going to say, 'The Hounds of Spring Are on Winter's Traces', but let it pass, let it pass."
"She Has the True Emily Dickinson Spirit, except she gets fed up occasionally."


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 05 Jul 99 - 02:25 PM

How about those swingers from Bedrock, Fred and Barney, Wilma and Betty?

Dash Riprock, Cary Granite, Ann Margrock, 88 Fingers Louie and many others made for wonderful parody.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: LEJ
Date: 05 Jul 99 - 02:39 PM

Yes, Shambles, I was talking about Tommy Cooper. Lion and I watched some old video tape of him last night, and again she was cracking up while I tried to decipher what he was saying.

Ogden Nash wrote some great funny poetry. My favorite concerned the habit of American Tourists who refuse to pronounce foreign place names correctly. He describes a couple who are touring Germany, and when they stop to ask a farmer where the Autobahn is, they "walked away with a beautiful Audubon, previously unknown."


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca
Date: 05 Jul 99 - 06:55 PM

Yes, Rick, I'm surprised that no-one has made a movie out of Pepys's Diaries or Boswell's Journals. Hollywood would be bound to screw it up though. It would never catch the essence of unintentional humour any more than it caught the irony and satire in "Barry Lyndon", or "Bonfire of the Vanities" for that matter. (Pity about the former too because it was done by a great director.) I think Boswell and Pepys would have to be "done English by the English" to be done right.

I give you an example of something I will dread to see. Hollywood is making a movie of Annie Proulx's very good book The Shipping News. Not only is the main role being taken by John Travolta, but it is being filmed in Maine rather than in Newfoundland where the book is set. Ouch! (One wonders why they didn't instead film her collection of short stories set in New England.) Presumably Americans would have too hard a time understanding Newfoundland accents or comprehending Newfoundland scenery, but then again how often do you hear real regional accents in American films other than a few stock New Yorkers or southerners? I see films set in the Midwest and the people in them talk like Californians or even Canadians.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Mark Roffe
Date: 06 Jul 99 - 10:07 AM

Columnist Dave Barry.


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From: Penny S
Date: 06 Jul 99 - 10:12 AM

Would not Boswell have to be done by the Scots?


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 06 Jul 99 - 10:15 AM

How about the late Francis Vincent Zappa? Hey there brother, who you jivin' with that Kozmik Debris?

I saw the Austin Powers last night. What a juvenile work, slapstick, corny, predictable. I can't remember the last time that I giggled so much in theatre though.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: DonMeixner
Date: 06 Jul 99 - 11:30 PM

I seem to recall a PBS Costumer about Boswell and Johnson some years back. I recall I howled and my kids thot I was nuts.

Funny: I've been listening to "I'm Sorry I'll Read That Again, Again", again on PBS Radio. very funny. I howl and my kids who are now much older still think I'm nuts.

Don


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Songbob
Date: 07 Jul 99 - 05:03 PM

Great thread! I can remember howling while reading the Goon Show scripts, never mind hearing the shows themselves. I, too, find some of the aforementioned people either funny, unfunny, or occasionally one or the other. Some of this is nostalgia, too -- you remember fondly what you laughed at at important times in your lives, and even remember punch lines:

[God:] Noah! [Noah:] Yes, Lord? [God:] How long can you tread water?

One I haven't seen mentioned here is a series of Radio Luxembourg shows called "The Land of a Thousand [sound effect of breaking glass]" which I heard on tape at a friend's house long long ago. Anybody know more about this show? Skit comedy of a Goonish/Pythonish variety, with hilarious scenes, most of which I can't remember.

Some of you have mentioned Rosie O'Donnell, whose comedy career has thankfully been channelled into a pretty good talk show (as talks shows go, that is). Can't remember her stand-up act, but there isn't much good in stand-up these days, anyway ("Bobcat" Goldthwaite, anyone?). Only good stand-up I've seen in a while, and it was a couple years ago at that, was a guy whose name I forget who said, "I've only got a few minutes to do my act, so I'll just tell the punch lines," and proceeded to reel off a series of lines to well-known but funny jokes, one after the other, so that your memory filled in the rest, and I at least was reduced to tears by jokes that he wasn't even telling. Brilliant!

Ernie Kovacs once broke me up by following a commercial with a send-up of a commercial. In those days, only one commercial at a time was aired, so when one finished and I thought another was being started, I began to get mad -- then, pow! the pie in the model's face! The timing of it, and Kovacs' knowledge that the audience would have the same "start to get mad" reaction I did, made that joke work.

Timing. That's it. I once saw a Laurel & Hardy movie dubbed in German, and still remember one scene. The boys were in a waiting room, a labour exchange, waiting for work. There'd be a call, and Oliver Hardy would get up to go to the window. Every time, he'd fall over their bags, which Stan had carefully moved to just the wrong place. Every time, Olly would set the bags out of the way, go to the window, and then return to the bench. After three times, the camera did NOT follow Ollie as he started to the window, but remained on Stan's face. When Ollie fell, again, over the bags, Stan looked off-screen with a pitying look of "not again!" The camera not following Ollie was the payoff, that and Stan's face.

Well, I gotta go. I'm funny myself, but looks aren't everything.

Bob Clayton


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 08 Jul 99 - 01:50 PM

Songbob,

Wasn't the Noah skit hilarious? [God:] Noah, this is God speaking [Noah:] Right.

I loved his early stuff, Hoftsra, Chickenheart. But I can't even look at the man today, he seems so self consumed and above everyone else. What a shame he was such a funny man.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Uilleand
Date: 08 Jul 99 - 02:35 PM

South Park - rude, crude, and socially unacceptable, but funny as hell.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: annamill
Date: 08 Jul 99 - 02:39 PM

Uilleand,

sshhh..me too! shhh I'm even going to see the movie..

me


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Matthew B.
Date: 08 Jul 99 - 02:52 PM

Oh, anna. How could you? ((sniff))


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From: annamill
Date: 08 Jul 99 - 02:57 PM

Matthew, I'm sorry...just remember..No matter where you are, there you are. It's my little known, secret, dark side. (I love Kyle and Carpman and Kenny) I'm so ashamed...


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: GUEST,Joshua of the Shoe
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 01:30 AM

Really funny, A confederacy of dunces by John Kennedy Toole, as well as anything ever written by George Feydeau (easily the greatest comic playwright france has ever produced, hell of a lot funnier than Moliere. Fred Allen is always great for a laugh it's a shame he's so hard to come by these days. Unfunny:Jerry Seinfeld, Joseph Heller.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Chocolate Pi
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 01:59 AM

my personal funnystuff list:

Plays: The Actor's Nightmare, Sister Mary Ignatius Explains it All. Christopher Durang. Travesties, Tom Stoppard (if you can understand what's going on; requires prior knowledge of Stalin, James Joyce, Ulysses, The Importantce of Being Ernest, cuckoo clocks ..) funny at times, heartwrenching at others: Arcadia, Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead, Tom Stoppard.
Books: Good Omens, Terry Pratchett and Neil Gaiman Betcha Can't Read Just One, Alan Dean Foster The Decameron, Boccaccio parts of The Master and Margarita, Bulgakov, if taken at face value, are hilarious most Thurber any Ogden Nash any Edward Gorey HHGttG (which can also go under plays and movies)
Movies: Marx Brothers Dr. Strangelove (If you don't get the President on the phone, you'll have to answer to the Coca-Cola company!) Plan 9 from Outer Space Spinal Tap Rocky Horror Picture Show with the following conditions:first viewing as highschool student with friends, all in silly costumes, Harvard Square, midnight, one time only. Them!, It Came from Beneath The Sea, Dr. Cyclops, Mothra, The Beast from 20,000 Fathoms, any other 50's-ish scifi movie that involves giant radioactivity-induced monsters
music: Tom Lehrer songbook: Joe's Got a Head Like a Ping-Pong Ball, collection of parodies (title tune: William Tell Overture)
computer-related: /usr/bin/fortune the Jargon files (http://jargon.org?) the BOFH
comics: www.userfriendly.org www.nitrozac.com www.sluggy.com Doonesbury

Chocolate Pi (giggling at what an odd assortment of things makes her laugh)


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: kendall
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 09:00 AM

Tim Conway on the Carol Burnett show. Jack Benny
George Burns
John Cleese Notice that none of them ever used a 4 letter word. They all depended on real talent.

The unfunny.
Jerry Lewis
Imus
Howard Stern
Eddie Murphy

These guys are about as funny as Mothers Day in an orphanage.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Willie-O
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 01:05 PM

Come on Kendall, wasn't it Cleese's parrot who f***ing snuffed it? Shuffled off this mortal coil? Etc?

Whether or not 4-letter words are used depends on what audience one is trying to appeal to...can be artful, or more commonly not, but in a more general sense, self-censoring comics are the least funny, cause they have less room to work in.

What I found funny was a Canadian phone-in radio show a year or so ago, in which about half-a-dozen callers in a row explained as if providing some great insight, that Canadians (Jim Carrey, Dan Ackroyd, Michael J Fox etc etc) are funnier than Americans because we are so self-effacing, personally and as a nation.

Therefore we're better.

No one suggested this was a little bit ironic.

Early almost-everything is better. Roseanne, f'rexample. It was really good the first few years--first it was pretty radical to have a strongly pro-working-class AND feminist show on the networks at all. As an ensemble they worked really well together-the big R, John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf and whats'her-name Darlene particularly-- and the character development, and treatment of real-life family situations was excellent.

I started to turn off when it seemed the show was all about sex all of a sudden--to the detriment of its previous focus. Not that sex can't be funny and sometimes it was, but the tone was more like "we're so naughty" which just doesn't make it.

Then some genius decided that the Connors should win $100 million in a lottery, and the last year or so of glamming about with the rich set was just completely off the rails--the show had completely lost its bearings and thank god they ended it.

A possible exception to the early-is-better rule:

I recently saw some video of the first few M*A*S*H episodes and had to re-evaluate my feelings completely. There was nothing to them at all but non-stop sexual harassment--that was 100% of the gags. I am sure the show got better later on.

There are some really funny Canadian comedians who you may have to be Canadian (or live here for awhile) to appreciate. Such as Lorne Elliott or Rick Mercer. If you have RealPlayer on your system you can tune in Lorne Elliott's CBC Radio One show, "Madly Off In All Directions" at 1:30 p.m. EST today--quite recommend it (they live-stream the broadcasts but don't archive them, you have to listen in real time). Why don't some of you non-Canadians (I understand there are a couple out there) try it and give us your impressions? There's some other good comedy on CBC radio too.

Enough already!

Willie"don't-get-me-started"-O


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Willie-O
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 01:11 PM

oh, I beg your pardon, Madly Off.. as cited above is on now (1:00-1:30 pm EST).

W-O


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: pastorpest
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 01:20 PM

Funny: The Arrogant Worms (both their songs and banter between songs): Connie Kaldor (sings serious songs introduced with standup that puts most stand ups to shame)

Not funny: Letterman


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: GUEST,Frankie
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 01:54 PM

Pogo by Walt Kelly was just about the funniest comic strip ever.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: kendall
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 02:01 PM

Funny things are said, not done. Thats why I enjoy much British humor. (Excluding Benny Hill)


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: GUEST,Ickle Dorritt
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 02:33 PM

I laugh out loud to anything written by P G. Wodehouse and I like tommy Cooper,Blackadder and Frasier. Seinfeld leaves me cold, and I have really tried hard to understand it. Don't like cartoons I'm afraid and I definitely prefer british satire to american 9with the exception of the brilliant frasier). Currently laughing at Never mind the buzzcocks and goodness gracious me.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Caitrin
Date: 12 Mar 00 - 04:25 PM

Funny: Chaucer, Tom Lehrer, Monty Python, Terry Pratchett, Moxy Fruvous, Wanda Sikes-Hall, Paula Poundstone, Stephen Wright, the idea that anyone considers the genre known as "hardcore" music, Jane Austen, Robin Williams (but NOT in Mrs. Doubtfire-that was just stupid), Ogden Nash, 'spaw and Amos(sometimes), Jonathan Swift, Shakespeare, The Far Side, Bloom County, Calvin and Hobbes, Mike Cross, my little brother, and my dad.
Not Funny: My younger brother and my dad, the TV shows Friends and Seinfeld, and Family Circus.
Absolutely never in a million years even the teeniest bit funny: Austin Powers. Not even a little.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: paddymac
Date: 13 Mar 00 - 03:28 PM

I recall tears of laughter from many of the folks, plays, shiows, movies, etc., noted above. I was surprised nobody mentioned the "Police Academy" movies, especially the earlier ones. I still laugh when I think about the scene where the Commissioner was giving a speech to visiting fuzz when the gal hiding in the podium unzipped him and, well, it was hilarious. Humor is a lot like pornography - I can't define it but I know it when I see it. Rick, thanks for starting a great thread.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Steve Latimer
Date: 13 Mar 00 - 03:51 PM

Speaking of comics, whatever became of Alexai Sayle?


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Lin in Kansas
Date: 14 Mar 00 - 01:06 AM

Funny Movies:
Danny Kaye, especially in Court Jester ("the vessel with the pestle")

The original Pink Panther (but more for David Niven than for Peter Sellers)

Monty Python and the Holy Grail still tickles me, but I don't really care for the rest of their movies.

Funny Records:
Cosby's "Chickenheart" and "Noah!" were formative influences on my youthful sense of humor ("What's a cubit?")...but I agree, I don't like his later stuff.
Smothers Brothers ("Mom Always Liked You Best")

Funny Plays:
"Noises Off"--the second act can (and has) reduced me to quivering tear-soaked Jello. Timing is all!

Funny TV:
"Grace Under Fire"
Rowan Atkinson (the Elizabethan Blackadder shows; definitely NOT Mr. Bean)
Red Dwarf (I love 'em all)
"Are You Being Served"
"Butterflies"
"Taxi"
"Barney Miller"

Funny Books:
Anything by Patrick McManus--his story about camping out in the backyard with Strange, his dog, was an absolute classic--been there, done that!
Anything by Sparkle Hayden
Dorothy Dunnett's Lymond Chronicles--there is always at least one chapter that cracks me up completely--a marvelous writer and historian
Dave Barry, "Worst Songs Ever Written" and many of his columns
David Eddings' first series
Too many more to list...

Unfunny:
"Wayne's World"
"Bennie Hill"
"Seinfeld" (although I do like Kramer)
"Cheers"
"Buffy the Vampire Slayer"
Jay Leno, or any of the many so-called comedic talk show hosts--I avoid talk shows like the plague

Lin


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: kendall
Date: 14 Mar 00 - 10:19 AM

yes JL Barney Miller was the best sit com of all time.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: GUEST,Jack Jones
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 02:28 AM

Funniest book ever written "A confederacy of dunces" Funniest playwright Georges Feydeau handsdown


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: JudeL
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 06:31 AM

In list of what's funny must add:

Tony Hancock in the blood donor,
Eric Sykes in The Plank
Some Mothers do have 'em,
Morcambe and Wise,

and for current live performers : Les Barker


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 07:25 AM

There are far too many funny Films/ TV series / Books / Cartoons to list, but I notice there is very little mention of Radio comedy. Goons, Round The Horne, I'm Sorry I'll read that again, I'm Sorry I haven't A Clue, all spring to mind.
Some very funny items I haven't seen mentioned: Film "Two Way Stretch" with Sellers.
Spike Milligan, books, Radio & TV.
"One Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest" Heartbreaking at times, but great humour in places.
"Open All Hours", "Only Fools & Horses" (Patchy, but the good episodes were REALLY good) Father Ted
Unfunny? .....Friends, & Seinfield


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Art Thieme
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 12:31 PM

Mort Sahl & Lenny Bruce & Del Close and John Brent and Avery Schreiber and Lord Buckley and Gamble Rogers and...


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Kim C
Date: 28 Mar 01 - 05:54 PM

King of the Hill, Victor Borge, and Bill Cosby's old bit about the dentist. "Fire!"

My husband is usually pretty funny.

I can't remember what I think isn't funny cause I forget about that stuff right away.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Ruthie A
Date: 29 Mar 01 - 03:34 PM

Give me absurd humour and irony! Monty Python had no finest moment - bloody marvellous from beginning to end. I like Terry Pratchett (a genius if ever there was one) and Gerald Durrell's 'My Family and Other Animals' and 'Birds, Beasts and Relatives'. Ever heard Kate Rusby or Les Barker at gigs? They have me in stitches.

Ruthie


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: GUEST,Barrie Roberts
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 02:25 PM

Bert --- If you're still Mudcatting, the excuse for this late entry is that I've only just stumbled across your reference in this thread to Churcher's College. If you were there when Margaret Rutherford visited in 1951, you must be a contemporary of mine. There's a photo of Adrian Fray presenting a bouquet to M.Rutherford on 'Friends Reunited'. Floreat Churcheria & Credita Coelo and all that!


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 02:35 PM

Dave Barry - funny!

Seamus - also funny


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: GUEST,BETSY
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 02:55 PM

Canned laughter - don't you Americans know when something is funny ??
You obviously don't - you turn decent performers e.g.Billy Connolly and Tracy Ullman etc into dickheads..........and those TV hosts who telegraph their ad-libs. What is wrong with you all.
Saving grace - you've got Gene Wilder - who is genuinely,inteligently funny .......but the rest of them are as funny as a kick in the balls.
Why don't you know how to leave things alone ?
My son who is 23 shares my love of the original Bilko Series ( in black and white ) quick , slick ,devious and great loveable rogue.
Then you brought out a Hollyewood version - what for? - why can't you keep success precious .
Sorry - British humour has it by a mile - I love it.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: jimmyt
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 03:55 PM

Oh Gee, I just love an objective constructive criticism by someone who obviously knows everything. We must try harder here in the colonies if we are ever going to earn your praise.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: *Laura*
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 04:46 PM

MONTY PYTHON - esp the Holy Grail.
Blackadder (though not series 1)
Ab Fab
Teachers
French and Saunders (usually)

Good Omens - terry pratchett and neil gaiman.
hitchhikers guide

ish - The League of Gentlemen (often funny - but sh*t scary most of the time too!)

can't think of anything else at the moment but there is more.

unfunny:
Mr Bean
most recent series of French and Saunders (except the chris martin's mother bit LOL)
little britain (except the bits that are based on pythonisms)

again can't think but there is more.

xLx


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: akenaton
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 05:20 PM

First saw "Life of Brian" on TV with my three sons.

WE laughed so much we ended up rolling on the carpet in agony,one of the boys finally had to turn the TV off...he saved our lives

The Royle family
After hours

They're brilliantly written by Caroline Aherne and Dave Cash ...Ake


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Little Hawk
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 06:36 PM

The original Charlie Chaplin movies are extremely funny.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Peace
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 06:40 PM

Much of WC Fields.

Robin Williams live.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Chris Green
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 07:04 PM

Just to level the transatlantic score further - Woody Allen. I got a copy of his Collected Prose and had to put it down after five minutes because my jaw was aching with laughing. Actually, as well, (having thought a little more this!) Joseph Heller - Catch 22 is one of the funniest and most moving books I've ever read!


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: number 6
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 07:47 PM

A Canadian TV series called the Trailer Park Boys .... very funny.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: GUEST
Date: 30 Nov 04 - 11:52 PM

... not surprised by many, in this resurrected old thread (thanks Rick, miss you Rick) .. but I am surprised to see "Joseph Heller - Catch 22" listed.

I have to say I agree! Very very funny book - though the movie had little of the humor (good movie anyway, just not as funny).

And I have to second Seamus Kennedy. He is a truly funny man!


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From: Seamus Kennedy
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 03:52 AM

Thanks, Guest. Your taste is impeccable, not that I've met menay people with peccable taste.

Father Ted - funny.

seamus


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From: Chris Green
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 07:22 PM

I thought the film of Catch 22 was a bold attempt to film the unfilmable. Highly enjoyable if you've not read the book - but otherwise a bit redundant! While we're on the subject of "Father Ted" and the like "Black Books" surely deserves a mention - certainly the best comedy series of the 12st century so far!


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From: Bill D
Date: 01 Dec 04 - 09:27 PM

funny: in fact, one of the funniest things from Canada..after Shatner.

Red Green


(I can't explain it...you have to SEE it a few times!)


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From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 08:51 AM

...a sort of a send up of Tim The Toolman....


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From: JedMarum
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 08:25 PM

Yep; Seamus is funny!

I played his new album for my son, who lives in NJ and lost it to him. He had to bring it back and play it for all his joy-zee friends!

I also loved the Black Adder series .. all of 'em (or at least all the ones they shipped over to the US).


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 02 Dec 04 - 08:52 PM

In my book "Corner Gas" has Red Green, Trailer Park Boys, Blackfly and every other Canadian comedy show beat by a Sasketchewan mile! And I really dig Trailer Park Boys...

Funny TV shows... Fawlty Towers... Father Ted... Red Dwarf... Ab Fab... I guess I dug quite a bit of "Cheers" but in reruns it's lost a LOT of its appeal...

For Stand-Up... gimme George Carlin... Dennis Leary... Shawn Collins... Billy Conolloy... There are others I'm sure...

Most unfunny things off the top of my head... Monty Python (Man that sh!t god OLD FAST!) Seinfeld... Never got it... don't care to... anything on The WB...   Anything these days that has some old washed up movie actor mentoring a young child in a TV 'Sit Com'.... for that matter anything that calls itself a 'sit-com'...

The above is all just raging opinion... take it only as such


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 03 Dec 04 - 08:41 PM

Canned laughter is the main way of stopping things being funny, for me anyway.

Some TV series have been shown without laughter threads and then with them added, and it almost destroys them. MASH for example.

Character based humour lasts, joke-based humour doesn't bear too many repeats. (I mean word jokes - situation jokes are a different matter.)


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From: GUEST
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 10:06 AM

Two Ronnies


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Clinton Hammond
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 10:51 AM

Some of the funniest movies ever...

Snatch

The Ref

Oh Brother, Where art Thou

Natural Born Killers

HI-larrious!


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Big Al Whittle
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 12:10 PM

Naked Gun

Seasons Greetings by Alan Ayckbourn - probably the funniest play written in the last century.

Derek Brimstone - I don't think he's ever toured the States. Named by Billy Connolly, Jasper Carrot, as their original inspiration. You ought to give him a whirl - he's 70 now but still a delightful entertainer - get to see him while he's still gigging! Great picker as well.

Brownsville Banned were the funniest folk club act I ever saw - years ahead of their time! They just missed the alternative comedy boom.

Some of Mike Leigh's creations, plays , films , whatever are the most astonishingly witty observations of the human condition. Roger Slocombe and Alison Steadman in Nuts in May. Stephen Rea, Tim Spall, Jim Broadbent in Life is Sweet.

I've noticed that young people like your modern American comedy stuff better than my generation - I've never managed to sit through a whole episode of Friends, same goes for Seinfeld, Sex in the City etc.- though you can't deny they're very successful. I'm sure its just a generational thing - we don't get it. maybe too close to the war and utility stuff to find affluent people possible to relate to.


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From: McGrath of Harlow
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 02:52 PM

Well, if it's a matter of folk performers, Les Barker and Vin Garbutt.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Cluin
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 03:01 PM

Saw a video of Ellen Degeneres' stand-up routine the other night, Laughed all the way through it. It reminded me of how I laughed all the way through Bill Cosby's stand-up (sit-down) routines years ago as well. Still funny. Timeless and universal stuff. I like Denis Leary too, but I wonder how well it will survive.

Watch old Saturday Night Live skits and they aren't anywhere near as funny as I remembered the first time around. But old SCTV skits are still funny. Wonder why? It's not just because SNL was mostly topical stuff. The old SNL skits looked laboured and self-conscious now, while there's a certain easy subtlety in the SCTV ones.


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From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 04 Dec 04 - 06:49 PM

It's possible to write 'topical' humourous themes in a way that do not age, but it's damn hard work...


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: number 6
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 09:41 AM

Thanks for bringing up the funniest movies clintonhammond.

I agree 'Oh Brother where Art Thou' ... brilliant and funny!

Funny movies ... any of the Marx Bros. flicks and Peter Sellers Pink Panther series. The 'Life of Brian' another brilliant and funny movie. How bout Reefer Madness?

But my all time fav funniest movie is 'What's new Pussycat'


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From: GUEST
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 07:41 PM

Yes, Ellen Degeneres is a funny woman!


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From: Little Hawk
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 08:01 PM

jOhn from Hull is damned funny!


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: Emma B
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 08:08 PM

I have to agree on Thurber and The Far Side; a must on any toilet shelf.As far as the (UK) folk scene is concerned I saw the grandfather of them all, Derek Brimstone, at Bedworth - I'd forgotten just how good he is.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: GUEST,Cluin
Date: 05 Dec 04 - 11:43 PM

"One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest"... damned funny (and poignant) movie.


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Subject: RE: Who's funny? Who's Not?
From: burntstump
Date: 06 Dec 04 - 05:00 AM

Biggest Joker of all time


TONY BLAIR


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