BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 11 May 09 - 10:08 PM

Beer overtime... and tickets.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer
Date: 11 May 09 - 09:47 PM

Get your hubby to bring it to ya. My wife does for me.
He! he!.
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Overtime I hear??

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 May 09 - 09:17 PM

MY RECLINER, of course!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 11 May 09 - 09:16 PM

Free beer? Delivered? WHERE?????

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 May 09 - 09:12 PM

Ssssh! We're a period behind on the DVR-- big funeral stuff today has us running late.

WHY is it again that our county does not have free beer delivery???

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs
Date: 11 May 09 - 09:10 PM

Wash 4-Pitt 3.........minutes left!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 11 May 09 - 08:40 PM

That there must be a rat snake then.... what a game! I expect Susan has had to pee as many times as me!

I love playoff hockey!

Why, I might even watch that there roundball stuff. I heard that's on the go too.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert
Date: 11 May 09 - 08:06 PM

Like watching a snake eat a mouse I reckon I'll check in on the Caps/Penguins game...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 11 May 09 - 07:10 PM

I saw it. It's too bad it didn't work out... mighta been real cool... almost as cool as "The Crosby".

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 11 May 09 - 06:46 PM

Between Mother's Day, graduation, cooking dinner and a bunch of other activities I did get to watch the Wings game yesterday on my computer (very small screen) but missed all of the first and much of the second period.

I heard about Datsyuk's "over the net" pass but didn't see it until today on YouTube. I've never seen anything like it - anyone see it when it happened? Did the announcers go nuts over it? The replay is just amazing and I'm certain it will be a new color, not only on Pavel's palette, but across the NHL. What a fantastic move! I'm really looking forward to game six tomorrow night and hope we can close it out. Looks like there might be a rematch - Pens & Wings; of course, the Bruins may have something to say about that. Cheers,......mwh

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 11 May 09 - 06:20 PM

Oops... maybe that should have been The Great Whine? Yes.... he was the second greatest hockey player of all time, but that lad sure can ween at times. Dunno why. I mean, if he wanted the Yotes to stay where he's at, why doesn't he just buy them? Pocket change for the Great Weener.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 May 09 - 06:04 PM

All my best ideas have been stolen. Steal it. Send me a cut.

Send Max one, too.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 11 May 09 - 04:33 PM

Susan! 3! Start a website... ask the ref... "Hockey Rules!" A place for fans to learn, to carp...

Get Big Bobby Clobber to do a blog type thing. Don Cherry doing a coach's blog.... maybe even get The Greay One to The Wet Towel Blog.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 11 May 09 - 04:16 PM

If only these things were REALLY up to us, wouldn't that be fun? (prolly not) But wunnit be cool to have fantasy officiating along with fantasy teams? We could be pioneers in that concept......

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs
Date: 11 May 09 - 01:28 PM

3-2, 3-2, 3-2 and 3-2. This has been one of the best 2nd round of the playoffs I can remember in recent years.

Ovetchkin's knee! Glad I didn't have to make that decision. The fact that it was unitentional would have been a consideration in deciding how many games I would have suspended him. 1 for sure!

Scott Walker's sucker punch! I'm not real sure what lead up to the incident, but he's getting 3-5 games from me.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer
Date: 10 May 09 - 09:13 PM

I was worried for a bit. Wings out shooting a playing but the score remaining 2/1 for to long a time as a wing fan. However the results came out as they should. I thought that Pronger was not giving his tops which was just fine for me.
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Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 09 - 07:59 PM

Silver at 2 to 1 ain't bad eh!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs
Date: 10 May 09 - 07:44 PM

Great game...Can vs Russ! As long as we remember that this was our/theirs "B" team. Not that it wasn't fantastic hockey, but that's not the best we/they have to offer! 2010 might be the best hockey tournament the planet has ever seen!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 09 - 07:02 PM

And that there Gadzooks!! guy eh? That there guy can rag that there puck eh? It's like he's got double sided tape on that there stick eh... stick stuck puck er what eh? Geeze oh eh?

Go Wings!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 09 - 06:51 PM

Call me crazy, but I was glad to see the Ducks score after such a stupid and dirty penalty... that wasn't just interference, that was an attemted elbow. It missed, but elbowing is thuggery to me. An elbow in the side of the head can kill.

I was sure that slap goal was above the bar, but the slo-mo showed it was not.

Overall, good hockey eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 09 - 06:12 PM

Canucks came so close. Saw the last 8 seconds... when my great nephews

1 - 0 Wings

started yealling downstarirs

2 - 0 Wings??? Was that a legal goal???

Think I'll watch the game.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 May 09 - 02:46 PM

GO WINGS!

Geez, don't you guys know how to post? :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer
Date: 10 May 09 - 02:38 PM

I'm ready. I have to watch it at my neighbors house as I'm not subscribed to tsn. But it happens to be my son's house and I think he has a beer in the fridge.
Adrien

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 09 - 02:32 PM

Beer... better head for the corner store... or were you already there? >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 09 - 02:29 PM

I am gonna tape the IHF gold medal game between Canada and Russia momentarily, though... so I will have the Ducks Wings on that tape immediately after that.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 09 - 01:55 PM

No way I can stop myself from watch the rest of the game when I get home.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 10 May 09 - 01:21 PM

Can you say DVR?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 10 May 09 - 12:52 PM

I have been looking forward to the Ducks Wings for days... now I see it's on at 6PM here... on Mother's Day! Yeah, that's what I'd LIKE to say. grrrrr

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Bobert
Date: 10 May 09 - 08:53 AM

Well, just for some perspective here... Watching a Caps/Penguins playoff is like watching Lucy pull the football out from Charlie Brown yet again... It does get to be sickening... I mean, let's get real here... These playoffs go back a couple decades and I think that Pittsburg has won about 15 of them to the Caps 1...

Purdy disgusting...

But when it comes to sports, the Washington, D.C. area has been about the most snakebit sports center in the universe...

Wish I wasn't both a sports fan and a homie...

B~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 May 09 - 11:52 PM

By golly we wunnit!

GO PENGUINS!

And come on home, and put it away.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 May 09 - 10:05 PM

Oh I heard you,l gnu!

Oh, Staalsie just scored, here we go....

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 09 May 09 - 06:13 PM

Thanks 3. Spot on from my POV. Still... a hard old job. Dunno if I coulda kept my cool if I was whistlin last night.

Hehehehe... actually, I do know! I lost it in front of the TV in my living room! Hope I didn't wake anybody up. >;-)

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs
Date: 09 May 09 - 05:53 PM

"DEFINITELY not an easy job to "feel" the situation... let em play or call everything? Tough stuff."

The secret is being consistent! You can put the hammer down and wreck a really good hockey game because you end up calling what is referred to as "The Standard". I get alot of "You let em play" whenever I get supervised. What they mean is "You could have filled the box up all night long with little shit, but no majors where missed or needed to be called".

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 May 09 - 04:50 PM

No, but the league IS trying to end deliberate hits to areas known to be already-injured.

"Heat of battle" covers a LOT of things IMO.... especially during the playoffs, but I know yer still mad about it. :~)

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 09 May 09 - 04:40 PM

Understood... but, re, "If OvieWanGoalobie had hit Gonchar's healing shoulder..."... ya can't expect a player in the heat of the game to let up on a check bcause someone has a "healing injury". If they are that fragile, they should not be playing.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 May 09 - 04:05 PM

Yes, I know.... I like to try to keep in mind that the league reviews it ALL. It's not just up to the refs on the ice. At the War Room they can add their own little opportunities for justice. Sometimes we even get to hear about them.

One example-- take the Ovechkin/Gonchar knee hit. If OvieWanGoalobie had hit Gonchar's healing shoulder, that would have been one clear intent to injure. If he had done a hit like he did on either of the D-men assigned to impede his availability to receive passes, same conclusion. From one camera angle of what he did, same conclusion.

From another angle.... uh.... I love my Pens, but I have to admit it was too fast, at that angle, even with slo-mo (over and over), to be sure.... and I dunno what the refs' angles of view were, or what each ref's eyes were actualy looking at in that instant.....

The mind boggles. So I have to say that using the camera to support or overturn the on-ice officials' view seems, to me, the only practical way to go about it.


After an hour of intermission-time, I came to think that the best league decision would be a stiff fine to Ovechkin (and maybe the coach) with a strongly-crafted and legally-delivered warning. He IS a marquee player. Is any league REALLY going to rush to totally change the marketing imnage of a marquee player, with a hasty decision?

Could a ref have been unsure what to do? Might cooler heads prevail after a morning meeting wrestling with it? I look forward to updates-- and another game, tonight.


Try it this way-- can you really see fans understanding how, overnight, Alexander Ovechkin becomes Sean Avery?


That's just ONE of a million or more "moments" the on-ice officials had to address. I would not want their job for ANY money. And without their willingness to attempt the job, we would not have our beloved sport to enjoy.

Checks and balances are a bitch, eh.

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 09 May 09 - 03:50 PM

Agreed.... hey... everyone is human. BUT, it still pisses me off that cross checking a man in the short ribs while he is on the ice in plain view of a ref is not called. Matter of fact, if I had been reffing, there would have been a double penalty with interference added. And that was not the only incident... on both sides.

Sorry for the rant, but, I'm just sayin.... PLAY hockey!

Sigh... Canucks play at 11:30PM my time tonight.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 09 May 09 - 02:10 PM

The Bing comment was actually a tasty treat here, gnu, but may I say somehting else.... and yes I saw a lotta crap last night, hard to sort out.... I responded to your no-nhl-mornings idea below, myself, by going over to Hockey Canada's website to see just what 3refs' frame of reference is.... I came to the conclusion that it's important we remember that 3refs is a hockey pal, here at Mudcat hockey threads, first and foremost, and I hope we can all agree that he's not responsible for NHL decision-making, policies, etc.... we need to be sure we do not put a fellow hockey-pal in an awkward situation.

This may be one of few places where a ref in any league can just "be," eh, and there may be some questions he might not address.

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 09 May 09 - 12:44 PM

I watched the Ducks Wings t'other night. Great hockey! Real hockey.... skating, strategy, finesse... like I said, some chippy but it was minor and behind the play.

Last night I watched the Penguins Caps... thuggery, penalties, chippy crap over and over... I mean, cross checking a guy trying to get up off the ice in front of the net when the puck is 30' away?? And, no penalty??? Does anyone else find such offensive?

I know I asked about the Bing Cherry thing, but the officiating and the play and the coaching I saw last night were ludicrous to me. It was a waste of my time to watch it. Piss poor!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 09 May 09 - 06:58 AM

I gotta stop going to nhl.com early in the morning. This morning, I read that one series is tied at 2 to 1 after the last game in which the score was 7 to 5 in the first OT. Methinks the admins are enjoying too many brown pops whilst watching the games. Oh... next game in that series is scheduled for last night.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Michael Harrison
Date: 09 May 09 - 01:16 AM

I think it would be GREAT to have a permanent hockey "question and answer, discussion" thread that would be separate from the "regular season" and "cup" threads. Having said that, I just don't have time for it now because the Red Wings won last nite in fine fashion; and, since they (NBC nor Versus) are not to be televising Game 5 of the Red Wings game on Sunday (well, not down in Hockeytown South, anyway)
I've got to spend all my time finding a satellite bar that will be showing the game; or, just going nuts until Sunday when I can go on line and scramble to find a streaming video broadcast or a radio station that is carrying the game. Life is tough for hockey fans.
GO RED WINGS.........GO RED WINGS.........GO RED WINGS,.......mwh

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 08 May 09 - 04:00 PM

Now... THERE is a question for the man!

Do you Cherry and "let them play"? Do you Bing and call everything? Do you... what do you do?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 08 May 09 - 02:35 PM

Cool. I guess I just grew up with it so I know the rules. Of course, this is playoff time, so the rules can actually ebb and flow a bit. Up to the Refs. And, DEFINITELY not an easy job to "feel" the situation... let em play or call everything? Tough stuff.

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 May 09 - 01:22 PM

Yabbut we have had a number of Q's from peeps who did not wade thru the long and hard-to-find NHL RuleBook. Also whatcha see on ice don;t allus match up with da woids.

And, lotta new hockey folx these days, Crosby hype, eh?

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 08 May 09 - 12:34 PM

Da rules are da rules. What kind of rules? Dey are rules. A rule is a rule, and when you have a good rule, it's because it's a rule.

With apologies to Jean Chretien... kinda eh?

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 May 09 - 11:33 AM

threefer,

OK, here are a couple of older threads that focused specifically on questions. Can you take a look (and answer there not here) anything that warn't covered right?

BS: Hockey - Plus and Minus?

BS: NHL: help on hockey stick rules


There MIGHT have been some questions in other hockey threads, but we have been running one each year for the regular season (that gets really long), and then one for the playoffs. I don't have time today to go comb through the older ones and I would not dream of imposing on your time to ask you to do it and then, on top of that, answer them.

In general, I think it would be best to keep questions in other threads, and keep this one for Cup-talk.

Anyway-- only answer what you feel comfortable tackling. This should still be a place of recreation for you, and not a place to answer for every hockey policy people like to argue over.


Thanks! I think I can see now why you might have appreciated the reduction in trash talk-- I am sure I know what you more usually hear through the glass-- but gosh, doesn't that leave you with no place to express it yourself?!?!?! (PM trash anytime, any team, mine several included.)

~Susan

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: wysiwyg
Date: 08 May 09 - 10:28 AM

Good, SOMEbuddy gotta keep you guys honest!

~S~

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: 3refs
Date: 08 May 09 - 09:14 AM

Yep, I's a referee! Senior On-Ice-Official with Hockey Canada! So are my two sons, with my oldest being a higher ranking official than his Dad!

Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: Beer
Date: 08 May 09 - 06:17 AM

Oh!, that is nice to wake up to. A Red Wing win.
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Subject: RE: BS: Hockey: Stanley Cup 2009 (08-09 Season)
From: gnu
Date: 07 May 09 - 01:31 PM

So... should I watch the Canucks Hawks tonight? Can't stay up to watch the Ducks Wings (11:30 start again).

So, what do you think the new team in Halifax should be called? I say The Halifax Privateers will be the name that wins, if they have a contest, if they get a team.

And, where will The Coyotes go (without The Great One)? Winnipeg, I should think. I heard rumour of London, but, three teams in SO?

There is talk about town that Moncton would be a great location for a CFL or NHL team, but I doubt it. Maybe a CFL team... maybe... nah. People yap it up because of the crowds we get for concerts like The Stones, ACDC, Bon Jovi, Elton John... But those are oneoffs. Not gonna draw a regular crowd big enough for the CFL or NHL.