Lyr Add: Ode to the Irish (Lloyd/Dinnell)

Subject: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: olddude
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 07:52 PM

a young lad named Andy Dinnell wrote and plays this song
he just sent it to me ... blew me off my chair

have a listen today on St. Patrick's Day

amazing work
DAn

ode to the Irish - Andy Dinnell

Subject: Lyr Add: ODE TO THE IRISH (Lloyd/Dinnell)
From: olddude
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 07:57 PM

Lyrics ODE to the Irish

They left the old homeland
When the great famine came
Only death waited
If everyone stayed

Though the Irish are scattered
Far over the foam
They honor St Pat
Where 'ere they may roam


CH
The Lord gave them whiskey
I tell you boys and girls
Just so the Irish
Wouldn't conquer the world
x2


They march with the greenery
On that sacred day
With many a toast
In the pub on the way


The Irish saved history
When the dark ages came
Monks copied the books
And hid them away



CH
The Lord gave them whiskey
I tell you boys and girls
Just so the Irish
Wouldn't conquer the world
x2


When the continent plunged
Back into the past
The Irish held steady
Till light came at last



Just a small speck of green
In that fair Irish sea
But from it came warriors
Scholars and kings

CH to fade

(c) Wyman Lloyd/ Andy Dinnell

Lyrics - Lloyd
Music-Dinnell

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: Jack Campin
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 08:20 PM

Is there in fact any important piece of knowledge the Irish preserved from Classical times through the Dark Ages? Quick, name three famous mediaeval Irish geometers.

Not exactly in the same league as mediaeval Bukhara, Baghdad, Byzantium or Moorish Spain, anyway.

(And it wasn't the Lord that gave them whiskey - they got the process from the mediaeval Arab alchemists).

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: olddude
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 08:46 PM

Now Now Jack you know they all stole from the Irish and passed it off as their own , that's the real story yup

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: olddude
Date: 17 Mar 09 - 08:54 PM

It is a fun song on St. Pats day nothing more. However this young lad is writing folk music and my hats off to him. He is Scottish by the way with a great voice and good ear for folk. Fun song for St. Pats day not really a scholarly discussion

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: Keith A of Hertford
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 06:17 AM

The Irish monks did preserve centres of learning and knowledge.
Why not celebrate the achievemnt in song all the year?

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: Jack Campin
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 07:13 AM

OK then - WHAT learning?

What specific piece of knowledge would we have missed out on if early Christian Ireland had not existed?

Their tradition of manuscript illumination was one of the best developed in Europe, but the style is found as far away as Croatia at the same time; it's not unique. They preserved no scientific or philosophical texts and left no distinctive chant repertoire or music theory. Despite preserving the ideological toxic waste of Christianity to subsequently dump it in England and Scotland, they produced no original theologians. They left no usable maps, nothing like the historical writings left by Byzantium, and no technological discoveries. And they preserved far less of their pre-Christian tradition than the Norse did.

Looks to me like those monasteries were a waste of good building stone.

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: olddude
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 08:20 AM

Hey
here is a quarter, feel free to call someone who cares -
me I like the music which is the reason for the post. A young folk musician doing a song he wrote for St. Pats day, push this below the line someone if it is simply going to be some history discussion. Or simply just delete the thread and let the trolls play

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: olddude
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 08:42 AM

The biggest question to ask is this. It is not about what one culture did or didn't do. It is about what each and every one of us does. What have WE done to make anything better or anyone elses life better.Who would miss us if we didn't exist. That starts with one person at at time. At least this lad wrote a song that made one person smile for his music style and voice are very good to my ear.

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: Amos
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 10:02 AM

I don't care for it, meself; it is a pastiche of cliches both lyrically and musically. But it is far better he should write and sing than not, and his voice is pleasant.


A

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: GUEST,guest_olddude
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 10:11 AM

a fair and honest take on it Amos
thank you
better a person write and try then not. What blew me away was taking the time to put it together for his friends. Love the guys voice and I actually love the melody ... I completely agree on the lyrics but a nice take for his Irish friends on St. Pats and he is from Scotland

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: Murray MacLeod
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 01:20 PM

olddude, I think you may have left yourself open to the marauders by putting "Amazing Song" in the thread title.

A pleasant song for St Patrick's Day, yes, but ultimately forgettable.

Good luck to the lad, maybe one day he will write a song which actually is amazing.

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - Amazing Song
From: olddude
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 01:46 PM

Murray
I agree completely with you. wrong choice of wording on my part for sure my friend wish I could change it
Dan

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Subject: Lyr Add: ST. PATRICK'S DAY
From: Stringsinger
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 02:21 PM

Old Dude,

I am partial to all Irish music. Probably in my genes (a little bit) on my dad's side.
I like an Irish Diaspora song. Saint Pat's Day is more American than Irish, I think.
But since the Yanks celebrate it, Irish songsters have picked it up.

This song Saint Patrick's Day is one of my faves for the imagery.

Saint Patrick they say came up sweet Bantry Bay
Riding cross-legged astride on the back of a whale
Which gave him a bob into Bally-de-Hob sayin'
"Padraig, you're welcome to green Innisfail.
The Spalpeens were scared as their saucer eyes stared
At the Saint with his mitre adncrosier and hook.
Says on great bosthoon, "It's the man in the moon,
And I'll spake to the crayture, just out of good nature,
and scrape an acquaintance by hook or by crook.
I hope he can't ate us all up like potatoes,
Twas Saint Patrick's Day in the morning.

"Your wig, white as flax, makes me bold for to ax,
It' who are you, what are you from whence that you came?"
Then Paddy replied, "I came in the last tide,
I'm a Saint come to serve you and Patrick's the name.
With crook in my hand, I'll roam over the land
And draw you together like mountainy sheep.
O, t'is there'll be a revel whilst I bate the divil,
A beast with long horns and as dark as a sweep.
Go lie down in clover till the scrimmage is over
On Saint Patrick's Day in the morning.

With a thundering polthogue and the toe of his brogue,
Sure the Saint kicked the divil beyond the North Sea.
He spoke to the Nation, "My sweet congregation,
You've spirits remaining that's stronger than he.
Ye know what I manes, they bewilder your brains.
They're as clear as the streamlet that flows thru' the green,
But stronger than Sampson, who pulled post and lamps
On his enemies head till he killed them stone dead,
And the name of the spirit, they call it "Pocheen".
I tell ye, don't stick to the divil's elixer on
Saint Patrick's Day in the morning.

Ishka beatha (I didn't spell it right but it is the spirit of life.
I won't touch the stuff but I love the song about Saint Pat.
We try to sing it every Saint Pat's day. I can see him now,
riding down Bantry Bay waving his mitre, crosier and hook
on that whale. I like this song for its imagery and good fun.

Frank

Subject: RE: Ode to the Irish - New Song
From: olddude
Date: 18 Mar 09 - 03:28 PM

Frank
this is priceless thank you wow
Dan