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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Severn Date: 14 Aug 07 - 07:07 PM Looks like Joe removed siriuslek's introductory post, but left mine. Now it looks like I'm talking to nobody in particular. Hope seriouslek shows up again, or that my posts vanish from here, if the job's done and this person's serious about joining. |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Rowan Date: 14 Aug 07 - 05:56 PM Greetings Bob. Yes, you're right. I can't think how I missed them (I can only plead I was in Central Australia at the time) but it should have read "The whole event was celebrated by all and sundry in as many ways as possible; the story got around that, from the number supplied to the athletes' village, every athlete would have used 10 condoms each and every night of the duration of the Games." Cheers, Rowan |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Bob Bolton Date: 14 Aug 07 - 07:10 AM G'day Rowan, Errr... did some fall out of (... or get censored from...?) your penultimate sentence... ? Regard(les)s, Bob |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Rowan Date: 13 Aug 07 - 07:51 PM Good advice Severn! I missed this thread the first time around, as I was too busy trying to avoid anything to do with the Sydney Games but, having read all the posts, I am impressed by the good nature of most 'catters. I was also intrigued to see there was no reference to a wonderful parody of SOCOG's antics that was being broadcast on ABC (Oz) tv at the time. "The Games" was a brilliantly prescient take on the political machinations; almost every episode was later mirrored by reality. The three main characters were John Clark, Brian Dawe and Gina Riley; the first two are still doing political satire every Thursday for a few minutes at the end of the ABC's "7.30 Report" a current affairs programme and I think their offerings are available on the web. Gina Riley will be known to anyone who has watched "Kath & Kim", which I gather has an international audience. And, as you all know, we survived the Olympics, helped along by Roy and HG's merciless commentary. I never found out what happened to the American bands but I know that Nikki Webster (the flying moppet in the opening) has been regularly satirised ever since. The whole event was celebrated by all and sundry in as many ways as possible; the story got around that, from the number supplied to the athletes' village, every athlete would have used 10 each and every night of the duration of the Games. Isn't satire satisfying! Cheers, Rowan |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Severn Date: 12 Aug 07 - 09:06 PM Hi, siriuslek! I'm Severn, some guy from Maryland near Washington DC. Pleased to meet you. Now why not go up to the top of things and learn how to start your own thread entitled, maybe, "Hi, I'm siriuslek!", so everybody else knows where you are. Not that many people will come look on a thread on an unhappy subject that hasn't been open since 1999, but with your own thread, you will find lots of warm greetings from people from all over the globe. Go register yourself, so that those interested can get in youch with you. Join in some discussions, and maybe come in with some of us in the chatroom. Look to talk to you soon! |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: katlaughing Date: 18 Jul 99 - 01:49 PM Right on & far out, Moonchild!:-) Thanks! KatlaughingradicallypeacefullyinthebackwoodsinmyBirks,too! |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: bbelle Date: 18 Jul 99 - 12:21 PM #1. The vinegar on my fries must be MALT ... an addiction I acquired years ago, whilst residing my the Bahamas; #2. Americans are comically egotistical ... we (and I use that term loosely!) think our everything is better than everyone elses. I haven't watched the Olympics in years because of all the bullshit, drugs, etc., however, why shouldn't a country, city, whatever, use the opportunity to showcase its local talent, rather than bringing in talent from elsewhere? #3. When will y'll learn NOT to respond to anything Gargle (not a misspell) posts? Kat... that was an unfair jab at you and I admire your restraint in not responding. #4. Max ... I am totally and absolutely against censorship, however, perhaps it is time for censureship. Mother always said I would mellow with age ... as I approach my 51st (7/20) I find I'm not mellowing at all. Barbara made a statement in response to one of my postings that said "there are certain common grounds a lot of us have here, and if you don't share those, you will find we don't fit you any better than you fit us." It was not a fair assessment of who I am, as it related to the thread, and, if she had read any of my previous postings, she would have known "me." Besides the music, this is the type of thread upon which I thrive ... the outpouring of humanity and intelligence is awesome. I'm not a needy individual whose only relationships are through the "net," however, I am needy when it comes to being able to "voice" my radical, peacenik, backwoods, Birkenstock, hippie-chick thoughts ... moonchild
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Subject: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Ian in Melbourne Date: 18 Jul 99 - 12:57 AM Thank you Mr. Catspaw49 and Ms. Katlaughing
May I return your kind invitation to drop by Melbourne on your trip down under? You are both welcome. |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: bseed(charleskratz) Date: 17 Jul 99 - 04:42 PM ...and flat out racist. Altogether unpleasant and unworthy of this forum. I've been exposed to the spiteful and supercilious side of you for a year now, Gargoyle, but that's a new low even for you. Everyone else please forgive my flaming. --seed |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: LEJ Date: 17 Jul 99 - 03:40 PM Hey Gargoyle... that post wasn't funny or clever. Maybe it wasn't meant to be? I know you can be nasty and cantankerous (two traits that I sometimes admire), but that last one was just plain mean-spirited and malicious. LEJ |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: katlaughing Date: 17 Jul 99 - 03:37 PM Well, lets see, the Ozmen I know, came on a commercial flight, get paid the same wages as any of us, go home on vacation, have green cards, so the correlation is what? You know, gargle, I usually just ignore the little bait you leave behind. You know, as well as anyone on here, my views etc. do NOT mesh with that of the originator of this thread nor with yours. If falsely accusing others of similar bigotry makes you happy, well, I trust everyone to consider the source. Katlaughingwhilesharpeningherclaws |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: gargoyle Date: 17 Jul 99 - 03:25 PM to: ms. laugh cat..... U.S.labor laws are now... such that
tequilla swilling mexicans and wine drinkin blacks are best replaced by beer guzling aussys from the outback?
You appear as sterotypical as the originator of this thread.
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: katlaughing Date: 17 Jul 99 - 02:52 PM Ian, we've a lot of Aussies come to Wyoming to work ont ehr anches. ANd, we've a small microbrewery in town. Anytime ya want to came by for a "piss up" (I love that expression!), we'll do it! katlaughing |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Big Mick Date: 17 Jul 99 - 11:39 AM Ian, Well said, lad. Stop at Gun Lake any time you've a mind to. We'll roast some beef, drink a little (they sell Fosters at the corner) and I'll show you my hill. Bring a Low D whistle. Mick |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: catspaw49 Date: 17 Jul 99 - 07:01 AM Don't worry about it Ian, you're welcome at our house anytime. catspaw |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Richard Bridge Date: 17 Jul 99 - 03:59 AM Let's not be pompous. The original post was not dignified. But it was quite funny. |
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Subject: http://anon.free.anonymizer.com/RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Ian Date: 17 Jul 99 - 02:00 AM Reports of certain generalizations as to the nature, character and attitudes of Australians filtered to me as I lay in bed this morning enjoying an early morning cuppa (short for cup of tea.) As a proud Australian and, I hope, a good citizen of the world, I would like to put some perspective on the matter of the massed bands for the Sydney 2000 Olympics. First of all, SOCOG (Sydney Organising Committee for the Olympic Games) are a bunch of pinheads who could not organise a Piss Up (drinking binge) in a brewery.
Apart from bribing anyone who looked like they needed it, they have managed to offend just about every sector of Australian society, so don't feel special.
The best example is asking the federal government for funding, then calling it the Sydney Olympics. If they want Sydney to be the focus of the world then let Sydney pay for it. If they want Australia to pay for it then let s call it the Australian Olympic games -- (Sydney).
Their feather-bedding, pork-barrelling and general arrogance is making just about every one down under barf.
The general attitude in Australia (or at least my circle of family and friends, which extends to four states) is that they should never have asked overseas performers to our opening without asking us first.
No offence, guys, but we can sort of do these things ourselves, although it would have been an exciting spectacle.
OK, having made that blunder, they should have then stuck to their promises. Public opinion may have been fired up, but the sensibilities of a few anti-U.S. Australians (yes, the same ones who would beg for assistance if Indonesia got wise) to me is irrelevant against the disappointment which your bands, their families and supporters must be feeling.
It is to these victims of the most high profile incompetence this country has experienced (since the British landed us on Gallipolli) that this Australian seriously and sincerely apologises.
Australians are not two-faced, back-stabbing four-flushers (don't know what this means but I watch a lot of TV.) Don't judge us by a bunch of fools blinded by the power of His Excellency (and friend of Franco and Mussolini) Juan Antonio Samaranch and the lure of the free lunch.
This Australian only knows too well that if it weren't for you guys we would be eating sushi by now.
More recently you guys have also bore the brunt of Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Kosovo, showing leadership and a willingness to spill the blood of the same young people who we choose to insult over this band bit.
Don't lose interest in us, America. Sue SOCOG for all they are worth. Boycott our games. Even send Paul Hogan back (ouch, that would really hurt.)
Just remember that our roots go back to WWI and I hope that when I finally get to visit the land of the brave and the home of the free that I won't be tarred and feathered.
IAN MALLISON Melbourne, Australia.
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Jul 99 - 11:36 PM Transferred from another thread. -Joe Offer-
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Matthew B. Date: 04 Jul 99 - 10:09 PM Well, I'm glad to know that the dancers of Canada are so unencumbered by garments. Now that's freedom. |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 04 Jul 99 - 07:04 PM Matthew -- the ladies at Joe's old family homestead are wearing a lot less than tops. Absolutely nothing, as shocking as it would be to the Mayor of New York. It is in fact legal for women to go topless in public in Canada, so you can imagine that licenced bars for adults tolerate a bit more than that. Well, it **does** get pretty hot around here in the summer. Right now I'm looking to take off a few layers myself. . . |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 04 Jul 99 - 06:54 PM While the original post was rude and childish, I do think the motivation behind cancelling the band attendances was equally rude and childish. Most definitely they should have decided straight away to use their local bands, but once having made the commitment they should have stuck to it and not backed out. Bad manners all round here. No wonder I never watch the Olympics. I see two groups of petty and pig-headed nationalists going at it here. The American bands should let their anger be known, refuse to go even if the decision is reversed, and let the matter rest. You should never go where you are not wanted. Joe -- the entrance to the old Ouellette house is slightly off of Ouellette Ave., although at one time the front of it (now taken up with stores) had a lawn onto Ouellette Ave. The tract of land taken up by the Palace Theatre Building and the Armouries was once Ouellette Park, named after the same family. If it is any consolation, it is a very popular and upscale strip club. Poor old Vidal Ouellette would be rolling in his grave if he knew, as he was a staunch supporter of the Catholic church.:) On the topic of food, I should have also mentioned fiddleheads. The only true fiddleheads come from Maine up into eastern Canada and are the shoots of the Ostrich Fern. Others called fiddleheads found in other parts of North America are not the same fern and in fact are toxic and cancer-causing.
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: bseed(charleskratz) Date: 04 Jul 99 - 06:42 PM For sure the OzOC botched this up from the beginning--while the Olympics is an international event, the opening festival has always been a welcome by the host country: the American bands should never have been invited in the first place. I might have actually watched the opening if it featured digeridoo bands and dancing wombats. But once the invitation was made, once these kids had been promised a place in the opening cememony and raised the money to go, it was extreme bad form to recall the invitation--again, the fault of the OzOC, not of Ozzies in general. It is, of course, also bad form for the Americans to raise as much of a public stink over the issue, inflaming passions in both countries (and, I suppose, in Japan). Surely some acceptible compromise could have been negotiated--if cooler heads with active brains and governed by feeling hearts had represented both sides. --seed
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: katlaughing Date: 04 Jul 99 - 06:14 PM LMAO, Rick! |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Rick Fielding Date: 04 Jul 99 - 06:10 PM I always thought that javellin tossing should be part of the Rose Bowl Cat. |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: katlaughing Date: 04 Jul 99 - 05:45 PM Well, I have to say 1)Rog used to love the meat pies his French Canadian mother made. 2)In Colorado, my parents and even my sister, bet, used to put salt in their beer (maybe that came from the Nova Scotia ancestry?) and, 3)that 16 yrs old who was quoted sounds a bit of a brat as do the "officials" from California. I do not like the sounds of their dermanding that one cannot take something away without replacing it of equal value. What a bunch of horse-doodoo! Americans can be so egotisitcal and brash, so sure that they rule the world and that everyone wants to be just like them! And, since when was the Olympics about high school marching bands? Esp. those from somewhere other than the host country? It should be the athletes and the host country's preparations. The marching bands should stick to things like the Rose Bowl parade, etc! katlaughing |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: catspaw49 Date: 04 Jul 99 - 03:33 PM I guess we Mericans nevil will get much a that culture stuff. Shute Peter I done thought them folks wuz ozzies. Cletus, doin' some bad puns |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Peter T. Date: 04 Jul 99 - 02:16 PM Fred Astaire (famous Australian) lowers periscope off abandoned San Francisco, and turns to Ava Gardner (famous Australian woman) and remarks: "Hard to tell -- atomic bomb or American culture?" (old On the Beach joke) |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: gargoyle Date: 04 Jul 99 - 01:16 PM From Sydney Morning Hearld Monday, July 05, 1999. SOCOG's attempt to put a lid on the marching bands fiasco collapsed last night after its compromise offer was rejected by United States band leaders and the company organising the event.
World Projects Corporation said it would not agree to any new Sydney 2000 roles without the support of the bands.
The compromise, reached after SOCOG held an emergency weekend phone conference, involved US and Japanese bands performing at preliminary soccer matches in Canberra and at events at the Opera House and Darling Harbour - but not at the opening ceremony as originally planned.
One Californian band director, Mr Roy Anthony, said he was shocked and disappointed by the deal. "This is not enough, this is unacceptable. You can't equate the two. You can't take away something if you are not going to give us back something of equal value, and this is not of equal value."
Mr Anthony and five other band directors will arrive in Sydney tonight.
A statement from the president of World Projects, Mr William Lutt, said: "A revised contract will be considered if Olympic performance venues are accepted by the foreign and Australian Sydney 2000 Olympic band delegation."
The Minister for the Olympics, Mr Knight, said he had an "in-principle agreement" on the compromise with World Projects but not a written contract.A SOCOG spokesman said later there was a written agreement but refused to release a copy.
One of the high school students who was to perform, 16-year-old San Diego baton-twirler Melissa Scholton, said: "It's hypocrisy to an extreme - to say you can have something and then take it back. It really hurts me. There's people and feelings behind the instruments."
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Barbara Date: 04 Jul 99 - 12:04 PM Before this thread creeps off into the Canadian sunset, let me say that I thought Gil was off the wall for tarring all Ozians for the actions of one Olympic committee. When someone I don't know posts a diatribe, I tend to shut up and hope it dies a natural death in short order, but I think maybe that attitude is unfair to my many wonderful OZ friends here at the 'Cat. Hey, y'all, I KNOW he's wrong about you. Besides as a US citizen, I have some faint hope of not being held accountable for all the idiocy my country, its official representatives and other affiliated organizations do worldwide. And I think everyone would agree the US has the highest profile for international idiocy (not to mention greed and opportunism).
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Banjer Date: 04 Jul 99 - 08:09 AM What tangent? Hell, it's nothing for a thread to go from high school bands to tiples to nipples in five or six steps. Oh and I forgot the trip through the Canadian outback in search of junk food! But on a serious note, (a very rare occurence for me, I'll admit) I do believe that on the subject of the bands not going to Australia: 1. The Autralians should use bands from their own country to showcase their youth sabilities, not import from other countries. 2. Think how WE would feel having foreign bands imported for such an event in our country, given all the talent right here at home. 3. That money raised by those kids for the defunct trip could well be spent on community service projects or improvements for and around the schools, thus still giving the kids a sense of accomplishment and pride in a job well done! 4. OR...How about selecting a site here in the US, centrally located for all the schools involved and having some sort of huge band compatition/display from all the schools? Travel should be no problem. They had already raised most of the funds! |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Matthew B. Date: 04 Jul 99 - 07:11 AM Joe, I wonder what that does to your sense of family heritage. Personally, I'd be proud to see a strip joint on my ancestral grounds - wherever that is (don't get me started about being from a line of wandering Jews). It would be my way of telling Rudy Guliani (the mayor of NYC, who forced all the topless dancers to wear tops because he's so afraid of women) what I think about the suppression of artistic expression. Boy, talk about taking this thread off on a tangent! |
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Subject: O Canada From: Joe Offer Date: 04 Jul 99 - 03:23 AM Sorry to get off on the food tangent, and I have to admit I lied. I loved the chips I got in Ontario last summer, especially with gravy or vinegar. Didn't know about them when I was a kid - my folks gave us only healthy food. Best of all was the corn, though. When I was little and living in Detroit, it seemed we went across the bridge to Ontario almost every weekend to go to the beach on Lake Erie and to buy produce. I didn't like the tomatoes and cantaloupe my mom forced on us, but the peaches and especially the sweet corn were terrific. I went to my cousins' cottage on Lake Erie last summer. On the way, we bought 3 dozen ears of corn, and the lady counted out 36 for us and then just kept counting - she gave us an extra half dozen free, Oh, it was good! By the way, Tim's office in Windsor is on a street named after my ancestors. The old family homestead is now a striptease joint. -Joe Offer, 1/4 French Canadian- |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: gargoyle Date: 04 Jul 99 - 01:24 AM Ah....the sad state of the Mudcat Ya take a serious subject and reduce it to Benny Hill
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 03 Jul 99 - 11:44 PM Hi Mick, no I don't book bands in that sense. Only volunteer stuff for Santa. A jar is always nice, although I may soon be out of here for the east coast to visit my family. If you want bookings in Windsor, try Patrick O'Ryan's on Pitt Street; The Kildare House on Wyandotte Street East; or The Sandwich Mill on Sandwich Street. (Name of the last place comes from the fact that it is on the corner of Sandwich and Mill Streets, although you can in fact buy a sandwich there.) There will also be a Celtic Festival here on the waterfront the last weekend in July. I have the URL around here somewhere. Seed, the reason I haven't been posting is simple -- too much work! That lottery thread got me thinking . . . |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Big Mick Date: 03 Jul 99 - 11:30 PM Hey Tim, I had no idea that you were in Windsor, or I would have invited you to join George Henderson and I for dinner. You would have loved him. And while you are booking bands, why don't you book mine into a pub in Windsor? We would love to come over. Hhahahahahahahaha.......now we are booking gigs on the 'Cat. What's next????? Next time I am in Detroit, let's tip a jar. I will get in touch and make arrangements. All the best, Mick |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 03 Jul 99 - 11:18 PM Actually, I mean to visit Australia one of these days. I want to see if Roo Bars would be useful in parts of Canada where car/deer collisions are common. Maybe I can make my millions by becoming the sole importer. Don't think they've yet invented the bar sufficient for a car/moose collision. |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Chet W. Date: 03 Jul 99 - 11:08 PM In Central Europe, such as the Czech lands, they eat them with tartar sauce. Pretty tasty too. I always declare a cholesterol amnesty when I'm over there. Chet |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: alison Date: 03 Jul 99 - 10:36 PM I like chips with gravy... gravy and cheese sounds good too....... slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: bseed(charleskratz) Date: 03 Jul 99 - 10:26 PM Hey, Tim! Welcome back. Haven't seen you here for quite a while. Or have you just been avoiding the threads I haount--the BS ones? --seed |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 03 Jul 99 - 10:10 PM And I've never seen a chip waggon here without catsup. I rarely eat at them anyway -- where do they wash their hands? |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 03 Jul 99 - 10:01 PM Alison, how could one possibly eat fish and chips without vinegar? That had not even occurred to me. In good establishments one is offered clear, malt, cider, and wine vinegar at a minimum. Actually, I don't think vinegar with chips/fries is practiced across all across Canada. It is found mainly in Atlantic Canada and Quebec, with pockets in Ontario. I'm not sure about the westerners. I suspect they eat baked potatoes. Then again, in Quebec they eat the revolting poutine, and the less said about it the better. (Fries, gravy, cheese.) Even the McDonald's chain there sells it. The thing to eat there is their home-made meat pies, tortiere, and if you can get one with venison added to the mix all the better. They also used to make home-made spruce beer out of the gum of spruce trees. That is an, um, acquired taste to say the least. Happily, the practice of older generations of Canadians of putting salt into their draught beer has died out. This is making me hungry and thirsty. Time to head out to the pub to see what's up.:) |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: alison Date: 03 Jul 99 - 09:42 PM Hi, I have a point against the Aussies. they don't put vinegar on their chips either...... in fact most of the chip shops I've been in don't have it at all... just ketchup, or BBQ.. not even HP... YUCK **grin** slainte alison |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: LEJ Date: 03 Jul 99 - 08:02 PM Jeff- that was one of the funniest posts I have had the luck to encounter on the Mudcat! You could be the next Paul Hogan, mite! |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: LEJ Date: 03 Jul 99 - 07:56 PM |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: The Shambles Date: 03 Jul 99 - 07:46 PM Chet. Would that ban be John Newton Olivia then? |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 03 Jul 99 - 07:39 PM Yes, there are lots of those Fast Food Boiled Corn places on the roadsides in Quebec. I was at one that had a resident Muskovy (sp?) duck that begged corn from the people at the picnic tables by quacking piteously. Good cheap way for the farmer to keep his ducks fed, I reckon.
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 03 Jul 99 - 07:36 PM Well, Joe, I do have to confess that I detest the disgusting American habit of eating their fries WITHOUT vinegar. Ugh, barbarous. They are getting better though because most places will now get you vinegar if you ask for it, even if they have to go rooting about the kitchen to find some. As far as I am aware you still can't get it in fast food joints down there but I don't eat at fast food joints anyway. You guys still can't make a cup of tea to save your souls, though.:)
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Barbara Date: 03 Jul 99 - 07:27 PM They may not have ketchup for your chips, Joe, but I sure wish some US farmers would take a leaf (or an ear as the case may be) from the Canadian folk and run "Hot Buttered Corn" wagons out there in the acres and acres of corn. Order it up, and someone runs out the back side of the wagon, picks an ear, shucks it, and drops it in the boiling water. A few minutes later, buttered and salted and impaled on a stick, there's a fresh ear of corn on the cob. MMmmmm. Only way to buy corn, at least before the SuperSweets. Regular sweet corn converts most of its sugar to starch in something under a day, even refrigerated. So bring your own ketchup. Nobody's perfect. Blessings, Barbara |
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Date: 03 Jul 99 - 07:27 PM This wouldn't surprise me. We have such petty, small-minded, and bigoted nationalists in Canada too, who think that the way to build up their own fragile egos is to tear down the other guy. They have a great platform in our national broadcasting corporation, from which pulpit they preach their spiteful philosophies and mis-state facts. Yet no doubt they then wander out to watch Americans play baseball for the Toronto Blue Jays or the Montreal Expos, and on the way home slip through the McDonald's drive through in their Fords or Chevys to pick up a Big Mac Combo. Your marching bands would be welcome at our Santa Claus parade here in Windsor, Ontario, for which yours truly does the band bookings. We hire some from inner city Detroit schools and have for years. As close as Windsor is to Detroit -- five minutes through the tunnel if the traffic and customs are right -- many of these kids have never been out of the city of Detroit. They have a great time and we are very lucky for a city of our size to get marching bands of that calibre for that price. Incidentally, Canada Customs has never demanded that they put a customs deposit down for their instruments. My fear is that one year some zealous petty nationalist will be working there and that will be the end of our Detroit bands. Now, Canadian pipe bands raise my ire. May I plead that they be banned from Australia as well? They refuse to march because it is "too cold". Yeah right, about ten degrees C last year and about 7 C the year before. Last year I wore a sweatshirt. This year I am tracking some down in the USA, since American pipers and their instruments seem to be made of hardier stuff. Hopefully I will be able to shame the local ones. Unless they were changed recently Canadian bands (as in the folk/rock/etc category) have a much harder time getting gigs in the US than US bands have getting gigs in Canada. The Immigration laws respecting the work visa are much tougher. Yet American guys play at the bars in Windsor all the time. I'd be happy to hear that this outrageous and discriminitory law had changed. I thought one of the purposes of NAFTA was supposed to be getting rid of these barriers, not just with respect to consumer products but the arts as well. I have no fear of American or any other culture -- most of my friends will agree that I have no culture at all.:) But I don't view myself that way -- like that good American, Popeye the Sailorman, "I Yam What I Yam.":) As for American culture, its all how you view it. When I think of American culture I think of California wine, The Ark in Ann Arbor, old Tiger Stadium and Wrigley Stadium, incredibly big and inexpensive meals, cops who look like cops, and helpful, friendly service in the shops. Probably lots of others if I put my mind to it. I don't think of Friends or Big Mac Combos.
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Subject: RE: Aussies ban American Bands From: Rick Fielding Date: 03 Jul 99 - 07:21 PM Now cut that out Chet! Next you'll be after Peter Allen and Rolf Harris. |
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