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Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts

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GOOD PEANUTS


Alan.Ackerman 30 Mar 09 - 10:24 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 30 Mar 09 - 10:39 PM
GUEST,.gargoyle 30 Mar 09 - 10:42 PM
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Subject: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Alan.Ackerman
Date: 30 Mar 09 - 10:24 PM

I had this on a record by Sam Hinton. It said Trad. Arranged by Sam Hinton. So I'm surprised I could not find it here. His title is "Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts", but it might have some other name. I could not find it in Google, either. Various offers to have me join something, but no thanks. Seems like a good way to get my identity stolen.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 30 Mar 09 - 10:39 PM

Mr. Ackerman -

You might have the ONLY existing record of this song/tune/lyrics.

I encourage you to listen, write, listen, write....and post it here.

If it is "HAD" as in "once upon a time" but it is gone...(theft, loan, borrowed, bestowed, broken, tossed) do you recall the record label, and era, and format 78/45/33.3.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 30 Mar 09 - 10:42 PM

BTW - very important in today's MUDCAT.

USA? ENGLAND? AUSTRALIA? OTHER?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Nancy King
Date: 30 Mar 09 - 11:32 PM

Our own Bill D sings this once every 5 years or so. Bill, where are you?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: BK Lick
Date: 30 Mar 09 - 11:36 PM

It's in the Dt as "Good Peanuts."


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 12:13 AM

Good Peanuts


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 01:16 AM

I think Bill's post might get lost where it is, so here it is again:
    Thread #115512   Message #2475871
    Posted By: Bill D
    25-Oct-08 - 11:57 AM
    Thread Name: Memory Songs?
    Subject: RE: Memory Songs?
    Here is one I stole from a Jean Ritchie/Oscar Brand LP 40+ years ago, and added & tweaked it a bit with a verse I found in a book.
    There is a shorter, slightly different version in the Database, but this is burned into my brain cells this way.....

    I encourage the audience to sing with me on the chorus...some even mangage thru 3 verses....

    Oh...yes, I DO insist they sing "IS gone"... *grin*

    (and, about 15 years ago, the audience at the FSGW Getaway got into the spirit and ran up during the song and brought me close approximations of ALL the items in the song!)

    GOOD PEANUTS

    The man who owns them good peanuts
    And giveth his neighbor none
    He shall have none of my good peanuts
    When his good peanuts is gone

    chorus:
       Won't it be joyful, joyful, joyful
       Won't it be joyful, son?
       Won't it be joyful, joyful, joyful
       When his good peanuts is gone?

    The man who owns those soft sweet soda crackers
    And giveth his neighbor none
    He shall have none of my sweet soft soda crackers
    When his sweet soft soda crackers is gone

    Chorus: re: crackers

    The man who owns them rich, red, ripe, strawberry shortcakes
    And giveth his neighbor none
    He shall have none of my rich, red, ripe, straberry shortcakes
    When his rich, red, ripe, strawberry shortcakes is gone.

    Chorus: re:shortcakes

    The man who owns them 3 dollar,Plymouth rock, all wool and a yard wide,
    guaranteed not to rip and to tear workpants
    And giveth his neighbor none
    He shall have none of my 3 dollar,Plymouth rock, all wool and a yard wide,
    guaranteed not to rip and to tear workpants
    When his 3 dollar Plymouth rock, all wool and a yard wide, guaranteed
    not to rip and to tear workpants is gone.

    Chorus: re:workpants

    The man who owns them John Wanamaker's enduable, reversable, sit-on-'em-and-mash 'em, patent restorable, operatic plug-hats,
    And giveth his neighbor none,
    He shall have none of my John Wanamaker's enduable, reversable, sit-on-'em-and-mash 'em, patent restorable, operatic plug-hats,
    When his John Wanamaker's enduable, reversable, sit-on-'em-and-mash 'em, patent restorable, operatic plug-hats is gone.

    Chorus: re:plug hats

    The man who owns that de-moralized, de-monitized, degenerate, saponacious, silver money...and giveth his neighbor none.
    He shall have none of my de-moralized, de-monitized, degenerate, saponacious, silver money,
    When his de-moralized, de-monitized, degenerate, saponacious, silver money is gone.

    Chorus:......and here, *I*, when I get to the last line of the chorus, reverse the order and sing ALL the lines down from "silver money" down to "good peanuts"...in one breath, if I can.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 01:24 AM

The version at Kididdles is closer to the one I know. Sam Hinton's recording is more-or-less the same as that in the Digital Tradition and in Bill's post.
The tune of the "Shan't Have Any of Mine" version is just a bit different on the chorus.
-Joe-

WHOEVER SHALL HAVE SOME GOOD PEANUTS

The man who has plenty of good peanuts
And giveth his neighbor none
He shan't have any of my peanuts
When his peanuts are gone

He shan't have any of mine
He shan't have any of mine
He shan't have any of my peanuts
When his peanuts are gone

The man who has plenty of
Soft, sweet soda crackers
And giveth his neighbor none
He shan't have any of
My soft, sweet soda crackers
When his soft, sweet soda crackers
Are gone

He shan't have any of mine
He shan't have any of mine
He shan't have any of
My soft, sweet soda crackers
When his soft, sweet soda crackers
Are gone

The man who has plenty of
Good nice French-fried strawberry shortcake
And giveth his neighbor none
He shan't have any of
My nice French-fried strawberry shortcake
When his nice French-fried strawberry shortcake
Are gone

He shan't have any of mine
He shan't have any of mine
He shan't have any of
My nice French-fried strawberry shortcake
When his nice french fried strawberry shortcake
Are gone


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Subject: ADD Version: Peanut Song (1909)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 01:32 AM

Hey, this song goes back a long, long way.

PEANUT SONG.

The man who has plenty of good peanuts,
And giveth his neighbor none,

Chorus.
He shan't have any of my peanuts
When his peanuts are gone.
When his peanuts are gone,
When his peanuts are gone,
He shan't have any of my peanuts
When his peanuts are gone.

The man who has plenty of good oranges,
And giveth his neighbor none, etc.

The man who has plenty of soft, sweet soda crackers,
And giveth his neighbor none, etc.

The man who has plenty of ripe, red, strawberry short-cake,
And giveth his neighbor none, etc.

That man who has any salt-junk,
And will give his neighbor none, etc.


Source: Song Book of the Harvard Club of San Francisco, 1909


What's salt-junk???


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Alan.Ackerman
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 09:26 PM

I went and paid iTunes $0.99 for a copy of Sam Hinton's version. The words aren't the same as the above, as it really starts with "Whoever shall have some good peanuts". I guess I will edit-up the above and post it here.

I typed Good Peanuts in the search box, yesterday and today, and it didn't find anything -- yet I see it is there from the link above. Why doesn't the search here work? I didn't find it in Google, either.

It also shows a picture of a CD by Sam Hinton, also called "Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts", so it isn't that rare. I don't know if that was the record I had or not.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Joe Offer
Date: 31 Mar 09 - 09:46 PM

Hi, Alan-
Yeah, the Sam Hinton song is a bit different, but not different enough to warrant my getting up the gumption to post it. If you'd like to post it, that would be a nice contribution. I quit when I found the 1909 version, figuring that was a real coup.
Smithsonian/Folkways reissued the Sam Hinton "Peanuts" album a few years ago - 2006, I think.
I don't see any problem with the search. Good Peanuts and good peanuts brings up the Digital Tradition song right away, but not this thread. Thread indexing is dependent on a separate index, which is updated periodically.

-Joe-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: frogprince
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 11:15 AM

I learned the varient Joe posted in Minnesota about 1954. The gent who taught it to us kids started with peanuts and worked up at least to "ripe red raspberry shortcake, but I can't recall just now what he used for other verses.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 11:42 AM

ahhh...different versions, and variations upon versions rear their heads! So will it always be. *grin*

I know, (as you see in my post that Joe Offer resurrected) that *I* tweaked it a bit...some intentionally and some accidently.

It is well worth learning, practicing and singing to yourself until you can whip thru all of the verses YOU like and are comfortable with, thus gaining the eternal admiration and awe of you friends AND foes!

(In some book...perhaps "Songs for Swingin' Housemothers"... there were even more verses, but obviously written for 'effect', and not always clever......and I can't do more than what is listed above on one breath.)


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Subject: ADD Version: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Joe Offer
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:20 PM

I learned just the first verse, and this is exactly how I learned it:

    WHOEVER SHALL HAVE SOME GOOD PEANUTS

    Whoever shall have some good peanuts, and giveth his neighbor none,
    He shan't have any of my peanuts, when his peanuts are gone.
    He shan't have any of mine,
    He shan't have any of mine,
    He shan't have any of my peanuts, when his peanuts are gone.


OK, so now my understanding of the song was, that the above is the one and only official verse for the song. All other verses are supposed to be made up on the spot, and that's the whole point of it.

At least, that's the way I learned it.

Remind me to sing it for you next time I see you, Alan - but you have to come up with every other verse.

OK, but now I have another question: I'm sure the tune is from another song, but I don't know what song it is. Can anybody identify the source of the tune?

-Joe-

Caveat Emptor

I think I learned this song from a Sesame Street cassette, so you may wish to question my authenticity as a source - but I did learn it from a cassette, not a CD, so maybe I am authentic....


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Apr 09 - 01:34 PM

Come Back Charles M Schultz , All is Forgiven !


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Apr 09 - 02:07 PM

Sam Hinton's recording of WHOEVER SHALL HAVE SOME GOOD PEANUTS is on his album "Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts (And Other Folk Songs for Children)" (Smithsonian Folkways CD 45062, 2006).

The song and the album are available for download (for a price) at Smithsonian Folkways.

I listened to some sound samples, and heard this:

Whoever shall have some good peanuts and giveth his neighbor none,
Then he can't have any of my good peanuts when his good peanuts are gone.
Oh, won't it be joyful, joyful, joyful,
Oh, won't it be joyful, when his good peanuts are gone?

Whoever shall have some Girl-Scout cookies and giveth his neighbor none,
Then he can't have any of my Girl-Scout cookies when his Girl-Scout cookies are gone.
Oh, won't it be joyful, joyful, joyful,
Oh, won't it be joyful, when his Girl-Scout cookies and his good peanuts are gone?

Whoever shall have some double-decker chocolate ice-cream cones and giveth his neighbor none,
Then he can't have any of my double-decker chocolate....



Cathy Fink sings WHOEVER SHALL HAVE SOME GOOD PEANUTS on her CD "When the Rain Comes Down," Rounder Records, 1988.

The same song appears on Cathy Fink and Marcy Marxer's DVD "Cathy & Marcy's Song Shop" (2006).

A generous sound sample at Cathy & Marcy's web site shows that their version follows the tune and structure of Hinton's, but their food items are:

1. Good peanuts
2. Chocolate chip cookies
3. A delicious thick-crusted double-cheese pizza
4. ...?


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Subject: Lyr Add: OH THAT WILL BE JOYFUL / PEANUT SONG etc.
From: Jim Dixon
Date: 03 Apr 09 - 03:17 PM

I found several old versions of this song classified as "college songs." Apparently none of these versions are cumulative, unless the editors simply omitted to notate this feature.

From Songs of Yale: A New Collection of College Songs by Charles S. Elliot (New Haven, Conn.: Charles C. Chatfield & Co., 1870):

(That book also has musical notation.)

OH, THAT WILL BE JOYFUL

1. The man who has plenty of good peanuts and giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my peanuts when his peanuts are gone.
When his peanuts are gone, when his peanuts are gone,
He shan't have any of my peanuts when his peanuts are gone.
Oh, that will be joyful, joyful, joyful,
Oh, that will be joyful, when his peanuts are gone.

2. The man who has plenty of good soft, sweet soda crackers and giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my good soft, sweet, &c.
[No further lyrics are given.]

*
From Carmina Collegensia by Henry Randall Waite, 1876:

THE MAN WHO HAS PLENTY OF GOOD PEANUTS

1. The man who has plenty of good peanuts and giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my peanuts when his peanuts are gone.
When his peanuts are gone, when his peanuts are gone,
He shan't have any of my peanuts when his peanuts are gone.

2. ...plenty of good oranges...
3. ...plenty of soft, sweet soda crackers...
4. ...plenty ripe, red strawberry short cake...
5. ...any salt-junk...
6. ...spondulacs...

[WTF are salt-junk and spondulacs?]

*
From College Songs and Popular Ballads for Guitar by Emma Schubert, C W Bemis, W W Harris, H. W. Harris, 1888:

PEANUT SONG
Arr. By G. W. Bemis

[Same lyrics as in Carmina Collegensia, also with musical notation.]

*
From Carmina Princetonia, 1890:

PEANUTS

1. [Same as from Songs of Yale, above.]
2. ...good soft and sweet soda crackers....
3. ...good lonejack smoking tobacco....
4. ...stale old roasted chestnuts....
5. ...Lorillard's fresh fine cut unadulterated chewing tobacco....
6. ...de-monetized, de-moralized, de-generate, unconstitutional, saponaceous silver money....
7. ...Richmond straight cut cigarettes of delicate flavor and highest cost tobacco....
8. ...chestnuts....

*
There are more versions out there if you want to collect them. I selected the oldest I could find, omitting brief quotes. I suggest you search for "and giveth his neighbor none" (in quotes).


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Barbara
Date: 03 Apr 09 - 11:22 PM

Alan, I have a recollection of hearing Nancy Shimmel sing that one, and possibly other SF Bay area folkies like Faith. With both the "whosoever" and the "joyful" chorus.
Blessings,
Barbara


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Subject: Lyr Add: LONG version © 1900
From: Haruo
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 02:53 AM

The following version is from the 1924 (2nd ed.) University of Washington Songs, pp. 140-141, and bears the notice "Copyright, 1900, by HINDS & NOBLE"; the book has four-part musical notation, but only for the first verse.

THE MAN WHO HAS PLENTY OF GOOD PEANUTS.

The man who has plenty of good peanuts,
And giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my peanuts when his peanuts are gone;
When his peanuts gone, When his peanuts are gone;
He shan't have any of my peanuts, When his peanuts are gone.
CHORUS.
Oh! that will be joyful, joyful, joyful,
Oh! that will be joyful, When his peanuts are gone.

The man who has plenty of nice, rich, ripe, red strawberry short cake,
And giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my nice, rich, ripe, red strawberry short cake,
When his nice, rich, ripe, red strawberry short cake is gone;

The man who has plenty of St. Jacob's Oil, for rheumatism, corns, cramp, colic, chaps, tetter, and chilblains,
And giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my St. Jacob's Oil, for rheumatism, corns, cramp, colic, chaps, tetter, and chilblains,
When his St. Jacob's Oil, for rheumatism, corns, cramp, colic, chaps, tetter, and chilblains is gone;

The man who has plenty of Pomp's peculiar, patent, perpetual, pocket, panoramic ponies for passing examinations,
And giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my Pomp's peculiar, patent, perpetual, pocket, panoramic ponies for passing examinations,
When his Pomp's peculiar, patent, perpetual, pocket, panoramic ponies for passing examinations are gone;

The man who has plenty of John Wanamaker's endurable, reversible, sit-on-'em and mash 'em, patent restorable, operatic plug hats,
And giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my John Wanamaker's endurable, reversible, sit-on-'em and mash 'em, patent restorable, operatic plug hats,
When his John Wanamaker's endurable, reversible, sit-on-'em and mash 'em, patent restorable, operatic plug hats are gone;

The man who has plenty of soft, sweet soda-crackers,
And giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my soft, sweet soda-crackers,
When his soft, sweet soda-crackers are gone;

The man who has plenty of de-monetized, de-moralized, de-generate, unconstitutional, saponaceous silver money,
And giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my de-monetized, de-moralized, de-generate, unconstitutional, saponaceous silver money,
When his de-monetized, de-moralized, de-generate, unconstitutional, saponaceous silver money is gone;

MORAL.

The man who has plenty of good peanuts,
And giveth his neighbor none,
He shan't have any of my nice, rich, ripe, red strawberry short cake,
When his St. Jacob's Oil, for rheumatism, corns, cramp, colic, chaps, tetter, and chilblains is gone;
When his Pomp's peculiar, patent, perpetual, pocket, panoramic ponies for passing examinations are gone;
When his John Wanamaker's endurable, reversible, sit-on-'em and mash 'em, patent restorable, operatic plug hats are gone;
He shan't have any of my soft, sweet soda-crackers,
When his de-monetized, de-moralized, de-generate, unconstitutional, saponaceous silver money is gone.

CHORUS.

Oh! won't that be joyful, joyful, joyful,
Oh! won't that be joyful, When all of his good things are gone.

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And for once I fervently pray a prayer of thanks for cut-and-paste technology!

Haruo

Identical lyrics in Songs of the Western Colleges, published in 1902 by Hinds & Noble [ancestor of Barnes & Noble]
Also in Songs of Harvard, published in 1913 by Hinds, Noble and Eldridge. -Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: GUEST,Seonaid
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 08:16 PM

I **love** this website!
So many new verses to add to an old family favorite.
I'm out of breath just thinking about singing those longer lines.
(Some lines bring to mind that old "one hen, two ducks" recitation.)
BTW, we always sang "rich, red, ripe, *rare* strawberry shortcake..."
But what's one syllable more or less in all this glorious wallow?
Thanks for making my day, all of you.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: Haruo
Date: 01 Oct 10 - 08:31 PM

Incidentally, it just occurred to me that the tune of "Good Peanuts" is an elaboration of "Malbrouck s'en va-t'en guerre". Isn't it?


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: GUEST
Date: 13 Oct 13 - 05:07 AM

I heard my grandad sing this on cassette about 1975ish

All you good people who use California Syrup of Figs and grape nuts
Give your neighbours none
You shant have my California Syrup of Figs and grape nuts
When Your California Syrup of Figs and grape nuts are done

All you good people who use Mother Segals Soothing Syrup......


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: GUEST,Mottsnave
Date: 13 Jun 16 - 12:08 PM

I think we can push this song back even earlier! I've found a reference in The Life of Robert Edward Lee (by H E Shepard, 1906) to civil war soldiers singing:

He that has good whiskey,
And giveth his neighbor none,
He shall have none of my good whiskey,
When his good whiskey is gone.

Also, a contemporary letter of Mark Twain (1863) from Carson City, Nevada refers to someone singing "the pea-nut song." It could be another pea-nut song, true, but the footnotes to Early Tales & Sketches, Vol. 1: 1851-1864 identify it as the "Good Peanuts" song.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: anasophia
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 01:03 AM

I believe this is based on a Sacred Harp song, "Joyful". Number 513 in the Denson. The melody is almost identical. Published in 1844 which would make it a good candidate for parody.


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Whoever Shall Have Some Good Peanuts
From: leeneia
Date: 24 Jun 17 - 01:08 PM

You can hear Sam Hinton sing this on YouTube. Search for:

good peanuts song

It's a fun song.


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