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Subject: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Becks
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 06:49 AM

After the sucess of the opening night on 6th April with guests and floor singers, The New Inn at Easingwold will be hosting their first singaround / session night on the 20th April at 8.30pm.
Singers and musicians all welcome. Come and play, sing, tell a story or poem or just come and listen, eveyone is welcome!

The New Inn
62-66 Long Street, Easingwold, York, YO61 3HT.

The club will run fortnightly with occaisional guests. Annie (the landlady) has already booked Richard Grainger and Ric Bockner and dates will be confirmed shortly.
There is a myspace page in the making so watch this space!


If anyone would like anymore information, feel free to PM me!
Or I am also on myspace if you want to contact me through that until I get the club site up and running.
http://www.myspace.com/rebekahfindlaymusic


Look forward to seeing some familiar faces and meeting some new ones!

Rebekah


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Becks
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 08:05 AM

Myspace site up.... in early stages I add!

http://www.myspace.com/easingwoldfolkclub

Cheers

Rebekah


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Banjiman
Date: 08 Apr 09 - 03:44 PM

Can I come this time?


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Becks
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 06:56 AM

Bump!

I am back from my traumatic holiday to the West Country.
So back to promoting Easingwold!

Please come along and support the first singaround/session evening
Monday 20th April at 8:30pm at the New Inn, Easingwold - YO61 3HT

http://www.myspace.com/easingwoldfolkclub


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: growler
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 11:34 AM

Hi from darkest Kent
We spend alot of our time off in North Yorks, usualy staying at The George. Look forward to seeing you in September


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Becks
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 02:00 PM

That would be great! Look forward to meeting you.

I am hoping to get down to Kent sometime soon, perhaps I could pick your brains for places (folk clubs)to visit? If you dont mind? I will send you a PM.

Becks :)


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: growler
Date: 15 Apr 09 - 03:31 PM

Hi Becks
Please do


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Nick
Date: 16 Apr 09 - 07:51 PM

See you Monday. I'll try not to spill anything this time


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: GUEST,Cliff
Date: 17 Apr 09 - 03:21 AM

I might make it this Monday - look forward to seeing you!


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: GUEST,Elvis
Date: 17 Apr 09 - 04:56 AM

Not THE Cliff?


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: GUEST,Cliff
Date: 17 Apr 09 - 05:22 AM

Well, I'm the only one that resides in this body (although it may look like I have two people in here) & its my given name!


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Becks
Date: 19 Apr 09 - 12:57 PM

Bump!

Just a little reminder about tomorrow night at Easingwold.
Come and support this new folk club!


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Bodbum
Date: 19 Apr 09 - 03:22 PM

Me and MCFC will be there.
Looking forward to a good night.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 19 Apr 09 - 05:15 PM

Still hoping to make it for a good sing.
MM


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: GUEST,Cliff
Date: 21 Apr 09 - 05:53 AM

Good turnout last night & a very enjoyable evening.

Thanks for the hospitality.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Becks
Date: 21 Apr 09 - 06:04 AM

Wow, what a turnout!

I started the night at 8:30 with people doing 2 songs each and after some late arrivals I was getting worried about getting round! But we managed it just! You made me work hard for my MC debut!
Next time I think we will run it as a song each for solo artists, 2 songs for duos and then go round again with one each, time permitting until the end of the night.

Thank you for everyone who came along. We are going to run the club weekly now rather than fortnightly to avoid confusion and hopefully the popularity will be maintained!

Next week - Monday 27th April, will be a singaround.
Monday 4th May is a Bank Holiday and will be a little different, The Black Rigg Rappers (Morris Dancers) have been booked by the pub from 2pm an will be followed by an afternoon singeround followed by and evening concert with Richard Grainger and a few featured floorspots at 8pm.
Limited floorspots still available!

Please let me know if you would like tickets reserving for the concert.
£5 for Non Members and £4 for Members.

Thanks everyone!
Rebekah


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Banjiman
Date: 21 Apr 09 - 06:36 AM

Well done Becks.

A really good night! We'll get there as often as we can.

Paul


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: GUEST,Cliff
Date: 21 Apr 09 - 06:59 AM

BTW Becks - well done!

You performed MC duties perfectly.

Inobtrusive but in control - excellent.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: GUEST,Yorkie
Date: 22 Apr 09 - 04:55 AM

Becks
Sounds like it's off to a flying start - well done. Must try to come along but transport/distance is a hitch at present. It sounds like it's a pure singaround rather than a "singaround/session" in your first post - have you had any musicians so far?


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Nick
Date: 22 Apr 09 - 10:04 AM

Some additional feedback - meant positively not negatively.

Not to put any dampers on it as it has started successfully but I have heard some feedback from friends who went that there was a LONG wait to sing from people who were there at the beginning but didn't get to sing until quite late.

It's always a difficult thing to balance in terms of when you let people have a go but if you pick people around the room in a not obviously defined order it can be perceived wrongly and you might put people off for the future. I'm not saying at all that it is the case here but people can misunderstand the basis on which the order is chosen. It doesn't matter short term but may longer term.

I think the idea of one go each has more flexibility in dealing with a room full of people - I went to a very busy evening near Thirsk recently which I know Paul was at where it was VERY late by the time I got to play and some people who wanted to couldn't. It wouldn't have bothered me if I couldn't get a go and two friends were philosophical about it but it could put someone off in the future.

It's been a thing of countless discussions on mudcat as to how you deal fairly in a singaround with visitors who come later than others who skillfully put themselves strategically in the circle etc but I'm sure you'll deal with that one.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: GUEST,Cliff
Date: 22 Apr 09 - 10:59 AM

I agree with some of the above but did notice that Becks chose earlier singers on the basis of distance travelled.

I had a 70+ mile round trip & although I stayed as late as I could, still had to leave before the end to get home for around 1am.

I thought she was very fair on the night.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Nick
Date: 22 Apr 09 - 11:52 AM

I wasn't there so can only pass on a comment that someone made to my wife after visiting. It wasn't a criticism more something meant constructively.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 22 Apr 09 - 01:31 PM

I've already made some suggestions about the optimum way of running singarounds, on the relevant other thread, but it will always be a matter of suckitandsee until the club itself, and the mix of performers it attracts, settles down a bit. It's very early days yet!

As for Monday night just gone - well I too thought Becks was very fair and kept things moving nicely. And starting on time helped!

It's always difficult to know how to go round the room balancing types of performer and second-guessing who else might turn up! There were over 20 individual performers I think, and it went well and kept interest throughout.

Having travelled around 80 miles round trip myself I appreciated not being on too late!(I stayed till virtually the end, and still only just made it home a little before 1 am!) But I agree with Nick and the others, that one song each per first turn round is almost always going to be fairest and the preferred option (unless someone really has to leave at or before half-time, or else there's a really poor turnout). And that should be the same for each "act", duos or whatever included - it's not right for duos to always get extra songs per turn if they always perform in the same ratio/role within the duo (though if they're separate performers in their own right, then that may be a different matter of course).

As for me, well I'll be back, sure - as it has the makings of a fine club, and the atmosphere was welcoming and encouraging, where even the more nervous of the performers did a really good turn.

Well done again Becks.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Becks
Date: 22 Apr 09 - 02:41 PM

Thanks Moorley Man & Cliff and yep I think you win the prize of most travelled! Thank you for making such and effort to come so far! Please come back soon.

I have already answered Nick's point in my previous post. It will be one song each in future.

It was my first time MCing a folk club, I am a performer myself and a shy one at that. So the MC thing is very new to me and does not come naturaly.
People started to arrive at about 8pm and I made an effort to go round and find out what they did and where they were from (the people I didnt already know anyway). I started the night promptly at 8:30 as advertised and worked on an order of arrival as to order of play with a few tweeks to juggle the acapella singers up with the people with instruments. At the point at which we started 2 songs each was not a problem.
There were a fair few latecomers so apologies I did not get to speak to you all before the night started and find out about what you do.

I have been to many folk clubs and seen many ways in which they are run. Glyn from Burneston Folk Club very kindly gave me some help and advice before hand.
I have been to many folk clubs where I have had to wait all night for a song because I was one of the last to turn up, I dont have a problem with it.

I am sure the club will find its feet.
At the end of the day I can't please eveyone.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: theleveller
Date: 22 Apr 09 - 03:51 PM

It sounds like the problems that all clubs face - ours has been going for ten years and fitting everyone in can still be hard. Most of the regulars know to turn up on time so that the MC can put the running order together at the start. Personally, I think it's rude to turn up late (but I have this 'thing' about lateness anyway) and if you're not there at the beginning I don't think you should expect to sing in the first half. That, however, is not a majority opinion as far as I can judge.

Anyway, the best of luck - you seem to have got off to a good start. We'd love to get up there but it's too far on a weekday as I don't get back from work till around 7.30 and it's at least an hour's journey.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Banjiman
Date: 22 Apr 09 - 04:52 PM

Just a thought..... isn't the point of a singaround to listen to other performers as much as performing yourself? If your only motivation is to sing yourself, why not just stay at home and sing to the mirror?

Becks, I think you did an excellent job, I think you had seen for yourself that 1 song each was going to work better than 2 in the future. I do also think that you should stick with your idea of letting duos etc do more songs than solo artits.... there are still 2 people involved who want to have a go.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 22 Apr 09 - 06:04 PM

Of course you're right, Banjiman - so much of the buzz from a well-run singaround is the joy of listening to, and discovering, other talented performers. Which is why I will - and do - travel longer distances for the "right" clubs rather than stay closer to home and repeatedly hear stale "same-old same-old" renditions.
But I'm sure you'd agree too that just singing a song to yourself at home and/or to the mirror is never a substitute for singing it out, merely an early-stage preparation. The moment has to be right for taking a song out for the first time too - and that's not always easy to judge, indeed sometimes it never comes!
The biggest drawback for the solo performer is that you don't then get the chance to develop or put together a viable repertoire if you rarely sing more than one song in an evening - which is why the duos/trios/etc so often have an advantage over solo performers and make more progress faster through more playout practice.

But let's return to the point of the thread... none of this is in any way a criticism of Easingwold - or Becks, who did real good!


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: theleveller
Date: 23 Apr 09 - 03:26 AM

I think it's even more than that, Paul. It's a social event where you can meet your friends, chat beforehand and during the interval and, like you say, best of all, you can hear what other people have been doing, listen to new stuff that they have learned or written, play each other's instruments and, hopefully, meet some new people as well. That's what a club is all about.

I really hate it when people (often with pretensions) arrive late, play a song or two then leave without bothering to listen to others. It happened last month at our club. OK, the two youngish blokes were good but they obviously didn't think that we were worthy of their talent and buggered off during the interval, having stayed for less than hour.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Banjiman
Date: 23 Apr 09 - 04:20 AM

"But I'm sure you'd agree too that just singing a song to yourself at home and/or to the mirror is never a substitute for singing it out, merely an early-stage preparation."

Of course Moorley Man. But I think you understand my point.

Exactly Pete. Some singaround evenings you get to play/ sing a lot, other evenings not so much. Absolutely fine by me, I'm happy to listen to others..... there's always another day to play.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Becks
Date: 23 Apr 09 - 06:17 AM

I myself am totally new to the folk scene and have found singarounds the most educational and usefull tool there is. Not just from a practice performing point of view, mainly from a listening point. I have picked up so many ideas for song writing and been introduced to some fantastic traditional material.
I didnt get to sing myself on Monday night but was more than happy to sit and listen to the wide range of styles and material being performed.

I thought the whole ethos of folk music and folk clubs was listen and pass it on.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: nutty
Date: 23 Apr 09 - 06:29 AM

Don't worry Becks - whatever you do , there will always be someone who thinks they can do it better.
This has happened to me on many occassions - even at a singers weekend where I was the organiser.

Listen to those who are encouraging and constructive in their comments. They are the people who will turn out to be the backbone of the club.

The others you can do without.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: MoorleyMan
Date: 23 Apr 09 - 06:40 AM

Right on, Nutty!
And more power to ya, Becks.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Nick
Date: 23 Apr 09 - 10:21 AM

I'll keep my comments to myself in future as they seem to have been received in a "let's get the wagons round in a circle" way rather than how they were intended.

So let me state it terribly simply and understand it is not now and was not meant as a negative criticism or demand for change. Sheeesh.

I think it is great that something is started in Easingwold and I hope it continues. How it is run is completely up to whomever runs it and I have no urge in the world to tell anyone to do it differently. The only point in providing feedback - whether it is positive, negative, indifferent - is to provide feedback that might be helpful. People often will not tell you things directly but will share their views between each other and may even vote with their feet at some point. Knowledge is power. To be aware of a situation though does NOT mean that you have to do anything at all about it.

Nutty - I'd slightly take issue with one point. The backbone of your club is likely to be formed from those local people who will come on a regular basis rather than people who will travel 80miles in an evening - it is one of the reasons I rarely get to Mickleby or various other places that I sometimes get to but don't regularly because of distance.

I get around a fair bit but there is a limit - since the 11th April I've managed to get to Burneston, Boroughbridge twice, Easingwold, Flaxton, York twice and Pickering.

All different too.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Banjiman
Date: 23 Apr 09 - 10:41 AM

Nick,

I think we're all victims of the difficulties of written communication here. I'm pretty sure that nothing that has been written since your post was meant as a criticism of your constructive feedback. Certainly nothing I've written was aimed at you.

We'll have a beer and laugh later!


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: nutty
Date: 23 Apr 09 - 01:20 PM

I have to disagree with you Nick. It really depends on what you mean by local.

Mickleby has run, as you know, for many years, yet has only every been attended by one villager on a regular basis. Everyone else travels.

Many using the overnight parking option to prevent the need for an 80 mile round trip - which was why I was enquiring earlier about the possibility of such an option at Easingwold.


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Subject: RE: Easingwold FC - 20th April - Singaround!
From: Nick
Date: 23 Apr 09 - 01:33 PM

Nutty -

Let me define my terms - I reckon local is probably 15 miles or under.

The times I have been to Mickleby have mostly been when most of the people come from within a 10 mile radius which is what I'd consider local. Not important to split hairs though.

I was at Pickering last night with about 25 people. Some from Pickering itself. Some from Malton. Some from surrounding Pickering villages. The first time I went there was some surprise that I'd travelled as far as I had (about 19 miles) which would suggest it was not the norm. That's what I mean by local.

And it's always nice when I bump into Dave in Flaxton because I know that is a long round trip (especially given the ex-cat situation)


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