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Tune Req: Cast Away Care

GUEST,Symlog 15 May 09 - 09:47 AM
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Subject: Tune Req: Cast Away Care
From: GUEST,Symlog
Date: 15 May 09 - 09:47 AM

Does anyone know of an 18th cent (pobably much earlier) ballad tune called 'Cast Away Care' and where I might find a copy?

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Subject: ADD: Cast Away Care (Thomas Dekker) - poem?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 May 09 - 12:06 PM

Hi, Symlog. Titles are Deceptive. If you're requesting a tune or lyrics, it's always best to give us what you know of the piece, so we don't have to guess which song you're seeking. There are at least two pieces called "Cast Away Care." Is this the one?

Cast Away Care
by Thomas Dekker (1572–1632)

Cast away care; he that loves sorrow
Lengthens not a day, nor can buy to-morrow ;
Money is trash, and he that will spend it,
Let him drink merrily, fortune will send it.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, oh, ho !
Play it off stiffly, we may not part so.

Wine is a charm, it heats the blood too,
Cowards it will arm, if the wine be good too ;
Quickens the wit, and makes the back able,
Scorns to submit to the watch or constable.
Merrily, &c.

Pots fly about, give us more liquor,
Brothers of a rout, our brains will flow quicker ;
Empty the cask, score up, we care not ;
Fill all the pots again, drink on, and spare not.
Merrily, &c.


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Subject: ADD: Cast Away Care
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 May 09 - 12:21 PM

Then there's this one:
    by Sir Charles Hubert Hastings Parry (1848-1918), "Hang fear, cast away care", 1910 [ATB chorus a cappella], from Seven Part Songs for Male-Voice Choir, no. 1.


The sheet music is available through JSTOR. Maybe somebody with JSTOR access will transcribe the whole song for you.

Then there's

of Intercommunication

When found, make a note of," CAPTAIN CUTTLE.


Index Supplement to the Note and Queries, with No. 30, July 24, 1886.

(7 th S. i. 8.)

After a long silence, caused by other occupations,
and not by any means through indifference to our
favourite * N. & Q.,' I am happy to furnish the
materials required by its esteemed correspondent,
my own faithful friend, MR. C. A. WARD. I pro-
mise to be more frequent in communications on
our old songs and ballads for the future. In his
inquiry MR. WARD mixes two distinct catches or
songs ; of these the earlier (1652) is " Hang sor-
row, let 'a cast away care," to which the music was
composed by William Lawes, and " published by
John Hilton : printed for John Benson and John
Playford, and to be sould in St. Dunstan'd Church-
yard, and in the Inner Temple neare the Church
doore, 1652." It reappeared in ' Windsor Drollery/
1672, with a few verbal alterations, here noted.
Of the other song, containing the line "The
parish is bound to find us," I know no earlier
printed copy than one in the excessively rare 1671
edition of ' The New Academy of Complement?,'
here given.

1. From J. Hilton's 'Catch that Catch Can,'
1652 (music by William Lawes):

Hang Sorrow and cast away Care,
and let us drink up our Sack ;
They say 'tis good to cherish the blood,*
and for to strengthen the back.
'Tis wine that makes the thoughts aspire,
and fills the body with heat ;
Besides 'tis good, if well understood,
to fit a man for the feat :
Then call and drink up all,
The Drawer is ready to fill,
A Pox of care, of what need we to spare
my father has made his will.

2. Song 276 :
Hang fear, cast away care,
The parish is bound to find us,
Thou and I and all must die,
And leave this world behinde us.
The Bells shall ring, the Clerk shall sing,
And the good old wife shall winde us,
And John shall lay our bones in clay
Where the Devil ne'er shall find us.

The New Academy of Complements,' 1671.
One version is in Playford's ' Musical . Com-
panion,' 1673. There is also a Roxburghe ballad
beginning similarly, but quite distinct from these
two songs. It is entitled, "Joy and Sorrow mixt
together. To the tune of, Such a Rogue should
be hang'd." Which is the same tune as ' Old Sir
Simon the King.' Here is the first of the fourteen
stanzas for comparison. The ballad is preserved
in the Roxburghe Collection (vol. i. fol. 170), and
has been reprinted in the Ballad Society's pub-
lication, vol. i. p. 509 :

Hang sorrow, let 's cast away care,
for now I do mean to be merry,
We'll drink some good Ale and strong Beere,
With sugar, and clarret, and sherry.
Now I'll have a wife of mine own,
I shall have no need to borrow;
I would have it for to be known
that I shall be married to-morrow.
(Burden:) Here 's a health to my Bride that shall be,
Come pledge it you boon merry blades :
The day I much long for to see,
We will be as merry as the Maides, &c.

This ballad was written and signed by Richard
Climsell, and was printed for John Wright the
younger, dwelling in the Old Bayley.


Molash Vicarage, by Ashford, Kent.
And from another place in the same document:

"HANG SORROW." There was a song sung publicly in alehouses and other places about 1764, in connexion with the poor law enactments of George III.'s reign, which ran thus:

    Hang sorrow, cast away care,
    The parish is bound to maintain us.

I'm betting this is the song you're seeking, because it has a choral arrangement. As I said above, the choral arrangement is available at JSTOR - many libraries have access to JSTOR.

This Google Search (click) will lead you to copies you can purchase.

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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Cast Away Care
From: GUEST,Symlog
Date: 15 May 09 - 03:10 PM

Hello Joe,
The ballad I'm trying to find the tune for is in Welsh and was written in 1791 about a game called 'Prisoners' Bars' played between a team of men from Flintshire, North Wales, and from Shotwick near Chester. It has nine verses of ten lines, with four beats to each line. I have seen the tune referred to also as 'Care Away'.
I wonder if this of any help.
Thanks for your interest.

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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Cast Away Care
From: Joe Offer
Date: 15 May 09 - 03:38 PM

Hmmm. Well, there's a song called Drive Dull Care Away. If you click the link, you'll find we have two tunes for the song.


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