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Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?

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Dorothy Parshall 18 May 09 - 01:20 PM
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Bill D 18 May 09 - 01:50 PM
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open mike 18 May 09 - 05:16 PM
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Art Thieme 19 May 09 - 03:33 PM
GUEST,CupOfTea, no cookies 19 May 09 - 05:33 PM
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Bernard 10 May 10 - 10:02 AM
mikesamwild 10 May 10 - 10:13 AM
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Subject: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 18 May 09 - 01:20 PM

Wonder if anyone knows the origin of this song. Tune similar to Bill Staines "River take me along... Let you and me river run down to the sea."


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: Mark Ross
Date: 18 May 09 - 01:29 PM

Do you mean WALTZING WITH BEARS?

Mark Ross


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: Bill D
Date: 18 May 09 - 01:50 PM

hmmm.. I guess the tunes ARE a bit similar.....but that does happen. I doubt it was intentional with Bill Staines, though.


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: Rapparee
Date: 18 May 09 - 03:06 PM

If it's waltzing, it's in the DT:

"(Words, adapted from Dr. Seuss, Music Eugene Poddany)"


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: Dorothy Parshall
Date: 18 May 09 - 04:57 PM

Thanks guys. I will take this to the guy in the coffee shop, who was playing the song this morning and see what he thinks. I actually thought I was hearing Bill Staines song. No, I am sure he would not do it intentionally. As I sang along to the tune, the guy told me the words were different and wondered where it was from. So there I was, computer in hand and the right folks to ask! (A free wifi site.)


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: open mike
Date: 18 May 09 - 05:16 PM

we have discussed this several times
if you use the search feature you can see
our previous threads on waltzing with bears

my favorite version is Rosalee Sorrell's

Dr. Seuss's original book i believe was
Uncle Terwilliger waltzes with bears
and he and his lawyers had a hard time
with the song when the character changed
to Walter

i think the waltz tune used might be trad.

hen you search, check both the DT and forum
and you will find a lot of background info
including folks who wanted to record it
and were looking for who to ask for permission.


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: open mike
Date: 18 May 09 - 05:32 PM

i just refreshed several threads about this song
this thread has been closed so cannot be refreshed
or posted to, but you can open and read it
http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=14244

    Please don't refresh a number of threads on any given subject. When several threads on a subject are active at the same time, it splits the discussion.
    I deleted all your "refresh" messages and moved all of today's "Bears" messages to this thread.
    Please don't do this again. It makes a mess.
    -Joe Offer, Forum Moderator-


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 May 09 - 07:53 PM

Mr. Mike - you are a refreshing person.

Thank you for your generous contribution. You are a most helpful fellow.

Next time - a suggestion.

Post exactly as you have done to this thread - teach the procedure of searching - as you did.

When is comes time to reference the mudcat threads - PLEASE - do not clutter the "upper playing field" by opening so many threads on the same topic.

Within YOUR Answer: A list of the thread Title and the number - expecially a Blue Clicky will be more helpful by keeping things together - the current diffusion of so many threads incourages confusion. A few minutes cohession contributed along the way saves hundreds of hours when multiplied by thousands accessing your information throughout the years.

Thank you again for your efforts. Do you think you could tie ALL of those helpful Bear's into one concisely packed den?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle

A Project is not Finished - until the Paper Work is DONE.


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: GUEST,.gargoyle
Date: 18 May 09 - 07:58 PM

Mr. Mike -

May I also suggest - that when "the paper work is done" your posting go into

THIS -current

THREAD - and not all the others that are currently open?

Sincerely,
Gargoyle


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Subject: RE: Origin: Waltzing with Bears
From: Art Thieme
Date: 19 May 09 - 03:33 PM

I've always thought this song indicates the exact moment when folk songs and the revival were dehumanized and dumbed down and given over to singer-songwriters---for worse rather than for better. Cute and wimpy is a result. --- I long for the good ol' days of "East Texas Red."

Art


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Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Dancing with Bears / Waltzing with Be
From: GUEST,CupOfTea, no cookies
Date: 19 May 09 - 05:33 PM

The song is also available on one of the Bok, Muir, Trickett albums. Check the Folk Legacy site, I suspect they'd have it

While I appreciate the enthusiasm for someone who has just discovered this song, be warned that it's something like a cold you catch that won't go away, and you WILL be roundly sick of it eventually if endless repetitions are permitted.

There once was a lad who did an otherwise admirable Irish music show on a local college station who had a wee boy who LOVED this song. So Papa would play it for him everydamweek for something like two years, it seemed. That cured me of any residual enjoyment of the song and in iPod land, where you only have to listen to what you really like, it's one of the few songs I've deleted from the BMT section. What a wonderful thing that is to be able to do!

I also enjoy the irony that my favorite waltz partners, back in my dancing days, were a "bear" guy couple, who usually danced with each other.

Joanne in Cleveland


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: GUEST,Marjorie Leighton
Date: 10 May 10 - 09:58 AM

MANY YEARS AGO I ATTENDED A SMALL CONCERT AT THE FIRST BAPTIST CHURCH IN BROCKTON. A FOLK SINGER SANG THIS SONG AND I BOUGHT THE CD. I PLAYED THE CD FOR MY GRANDCHILDREN IN THE CAR WHENEVER I TOOK THEM SOMEWHERE. THE CD CRACKED AND I TRIED TO GET THE INFO FROM IT TO SEND AWAY FOR ANOTHER BUT THAT WAS UNSUCCESSFUL. MY GRANDDAUGHTER IS NOW 17 YEARS OLD TODAY AND LAST NIGHT SHE ASKED ME IF I REMEMBERED THE LYRICS AND HOW THE SONG WENT. I DID REMEMBER THE TITLE AND PART OF THE LYRICS BUT THAT IS ALL. I WISH I COULD REPLACE THE CD FOR HER BECAUSE IT IS A CHILDHOOD REMEMBERANCE, HOWEVER, WE HAD MANY ENJOYABLE TRIPS LISTENING TO THAT SONG


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: Bernard
Date: 10 May 10 - 10:02 AM

No need to shout!


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: mikesamwild
Date: 10 May 10 - 10:13 AM

Aren't big gay guys 'bears' that would make some sense of the song to me. I find it twee but catchy. The grandkids like it but maybe the other connotation is a bit too much for them as yet, they get the teddy bears out to dance with it!.


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 10 May 10 - 10:40 AM

Marjorie, at the top of this page there are links to several other discussions about the song, including mention of the artists who have recorded it.

~ Becky in Tucson


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: open mike
Date: 10 May 10 - 01:39 PM

there is a fiddle tune called Dancing Bear which could possibly be Irish

Marjorie...if you knew more about the concert and the artist (names, dates) you could perhaps find that c.d. Do you recall any of the other songs on it? Where is Brockton located, perhaps someone in the church has an archive of the performer..or of the presenter or producer of the concert....there might be a contract somewhere with the particulars.


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: michaelr
Date: 10 May 10 - 03:11 PM

The Irish connection is likely from Tommy Makem's well-known recording.


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Subject: RE: Dancing With Bears? Irish folk tune?
From: The Fooles Troupe
Date: 11 May 10 - 04:52 AM

"fiddle tune called Dancing Bear"

There are also 'folk tunes' in parts of Europe collected ages ago and some of which have been recorded by Symphony orchestras, called 'the bear dance.

"Aren't big gay guys 'bears' that would make some sense of the song to me"

But .... relevance of period of time ... to 'bear dance' ...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_bear#Early_pioneers

Richard Bulger, publisher, and his partner, Chris Nelson, started Bear Magazine—originally a photocopied flyer—from their apartment in San Francisco in 1987. Over a 5-year period, the magazine grew to an internationally distributed high-gloss format, but still intentionally kept the stark look of Chris' black and white photography. Their company, Brush Creek Media Inc., obtained a trademark on the name "Bear" for a men's magazine in 1992.[5] Bearded, blue-collar, rural, and working-class men were idolized in the magazine.


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