Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'

Subject: Recording of Woody's 'Deportee' (UK) ?
From: Pete Jennings
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 12:40 PM

Anybody know where I can find a recording of Deportee in the UK? I've searched the CD shelves endlessly and can't find one anywhere.

Thanks
Pete

Subject: RE: Recording of Woody's 'Deportee' (UK) ?
From: Joe Offer
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 12:54 PM

Hi, Pete - I've searched high and low, and I haven't found a Woody Guthrie recording of this song. Many other people recorded it, but not Woody. Cisco Houston's recording is probably the best-known rendition, followed perhaps by the recording by Judy Collins.
See the other threads on "Deportee": for a history of this song. Woody didn't write the tune - Joe Klein's Woody biography says he chanted the lyrics.
-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Recording of Woody's 'Deportee' (UK) ?
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 03:19 PM

I'm not sure there are any recordings of Guthrie performing this song.

The music was added in the early 1960's by Martin Hoffman.   It is my understanding that Woody recited the poem when performing.

Subject: RE: Recording of Woody's 'Deportee' (UK) ?
From: Backstage Manager(inactive)
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 03:42 PM

There are no recordings of Woody singing "Deportees." He wrote the words, circa 1948, and it was set to music by Marty Hoffman in 1958. As Ron noted, Woody would kind of recite the words.

There are many, many recordings. SOme as "Deportee," some as "Deportees," and some as "Plane Wreck at Los Gatos."

Artists with currently in-print recorded versions include: Joan Baez; Tom Williams; The Byrds; Joel Rafael; Barbara Dane; Arlo Guthrie; Judy Collins; Cisco Houston; Priscilla Herdman; Peter, Paul & Mary w/Ramblin' Jack Elliott; Peter, Paul & Mary w/Tom Paxton; David Rodriguez; The Short Sisters; Nanci Griffth w/Lucinda Williams, Tish Hinojosa, Odetta, Steve Earle, John Stewart; the Highwaymen (Willie Nelson, Johnny Cash, Kris Kristofferson & Waylon Jennings); James Talley; The Vanaver Caravan; Bruce Springsteen; Mike Beck; Hoyt Axton & Arlo Guthrie.

I'm sure some of those are available in the UK
I'm sure some of those recordings

Subject: RE: Recording of Woody's 'Deportee' (UK) ?
From: John MacKenzie
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 04:38 PM

Dick Gaughan, and Alex Campbell have both recorded this.

Giok

Subject: RE: Recording of Woody's 'Deportee' (UK) ?
From: GUEST,Ballyholme
Date: 18 Jun 04 - 05:11 PM

I remember reading that Martin Simpson regarded Dolly Parton's version very highly. I've been trying to get a copy of her recording for a long time but can't seem to find it in record shops.

Subject: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Kegan Mahon
Date: 22 May 09 - 08:17 AM

The version I'm trying to recall was sung by a folk group, probably in the '60s, but I don't know. I heard it a few years ago online, but it's since been removed.

It opened with a male singer reading part of the 1948 article about the plane wreck at Los Gatos. The only other bit of info I can seem to recall is that there was also a female in the group.

If anyone knows, I thank you in advance.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,TIA
Date: 22 May 09 - 09:37 AM

I sure do remember the Joan Baez version. Will look for the one you mention.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Brad Sondahl
Date: 22 May 09 - 10:00 AM

Could it be from the Tribute to Woody Guthrie compilation album from a concert shortly after he died, with narrations by Will Geer. Can't seem to find it on Amazon though... Ramblin Jack Elliot, Odetta, and a bunch of the major folkies were also on it. Seems to me like the version of Deportee on the album was by Judy Collins, but my memory is faded.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: Declan
Date: 22 May 09 - 01:16 PM

Brad,

Your memory of that album is spot on.

Will Geer does some narration on track 19 followed by Judy Collins singing Deportee on track 20. I'm listening to it right now.

The only thing is that the narration is not about the song deportee and definitely doesn't come from the article about the crash. So maybe this isn't the one that Kegan is looking for.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Kegan
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 06:03 AM

Thank you all who have answered and all who continue to look.

I also loved the Joan Baez version; on of my Youtube favorites.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: oldhippie
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 03:58 PM

The Kingston Trio did it on Time to Think, Capitol T 2011, LP (1964), trk# B.01

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Kegan
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 03:06 PM

I've heard that version, it's nothing like what I'm thinking of. I'm sorry to say I didn't even like it much, which is sad because I love both the song and the Trio.

Thanks for the help the both of you, and Jim for the song suggestion; I'll be sure to check that out.

Kegan

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: NormanD
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 06:50 AM

For a more recent version (well, the last ten years), check out the one by Los Super Session, a super-group of Texan-Mexican musicians, including Joe Ely and Flaco Jiminez. They show that the song still has strong contemporary meaning.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: NormanD
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 06:53 AM

Ooops, that should be Los Super Seven.

norman

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: bobad
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:10 AM

A list of some artists who have recorded it from Wikipedia.

    * Bob Dylan and Joan Baez during the 2nd Part of the Rolling Thunder Tour (1976)
    * Dave Guard and the Whiskey Hill Singers (featuring Judy Henske) on Dave Guard and the Whiskey Hill Singers (1962)
    * The Kingston Trio on Time To Think (1963)
    * Cisco Houston on Cisco Sings the Songs of Woody Guthrie (1963)
    * Judy Collins on Judy Collins #3 (1964)
    * The Byrds on the Ballad of Easy Rider'' (1969)
    * Joan Baez on Blessed Are... (1971), and live on Bowery Songs (2004)
    * Arlo Guthrie on Arlo Guthrie (1974) and with Pete Seeger on Arlo Guthrie and Pete Seeger: Together in Concert (1975)
    * Dolly Parton on 9 to 5 and Odd Jobs (1981)
    * Sweet Honey in the Rock on The Other Side (1985)
    * Christy Moore on, Spirit of Freedom (1985)
    * John Stewart "Illegals/Deportee Medley" on Secret Tapes 1984-'87 (Disc 1 - 1986)
    * Billy Bragg on Talking with the Taxman about Poetry extended edition
    * Hoyt Axton on Hard Travelin' (1986)
    * The Highwaymen on Highwayman (1985)
    * Peter, Paul and Mary on Lifelines (1995) and Lifelines Live (1996)
    * Concrete Blonde on Concrete Blonde y Los Illegals (1997)
    * Nanci Griffith with an ensemble including Lucinda Williams, Tish Hinojosa, Odetta, Steve Earle, and John Stewart on Other Voices, Too (A Trip Back to Bountiful) (1998)
    * Los Super Seven on Los Super Seven (1998).
    * Bruce Springsteen on 'Til We Outnumber 'Em (2000)
    * Ox on Dust Bowl Revival (2003)
    * Barbara Dane on Classic Folk Music From Smithsonian Folkways (2004)
    * The Battlefield Band on The Road of Tears (2006)
    * Roy Brown Ramírez, Tito Auger, and Tao Rodríguez-Seeger on Que Vaya Bien (2006) (Spanish)
    * Richard Shindell on, South of Delia (2007)
    * Paddy Reilly on Paddy Reilly, The Very Best Of
    * Old Crow Medicine Show on Song of America (2007)
    * Derek Warfield and the Wolfe Tones on "50 Great Rebel Songs and Ballads"

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: oldhippie
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 07:20 AM

And from folk index, this list:


Deportees - Guthrie, Woody/Hoffman, Martin

Rm - Get Along Little Dogies
Pb - C.E.O.'s (The Plane Wreck at Tuzla)
Scott, John Anthony (ed.) / Ballad of America, Grosset & Dunlap, Bk (1967), p367 (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos)
Shekerjian, Haig and Regina (eds.) / Book of Ballads, Songs and Snatches, Harper, sof (1966), p 39 (Song of the Deportees)
Winds of the People, Sing Out, Sof (1982), p 95
Sing Out Reprints, Sing Out, Sof (1959), 4, p 8 (Song of the Deportees)
Blood, Peter; and Annie Patterson (eds.) / Rise Up Singing, Sing Out, Sof (1992/1989), p 50
Seeger, Pete; and Bob Reiser (eds.) / Carry It On!, Simon & Schuster, Sof (1985), p209
Greenway, John / American Folksongs of Protest, Perpetua, Sof (1960/1953), p294 (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos)
Collins, Judy. Judy Collins #3, Elektra EKL 243, LP (1964), trk# B.03
Cope, Jim; and Dave Millard. Folk Festival of the Smokies. Volume II, Traditional FFS-529, LP (1972), trk# A.03
Dane, Barbara. I Hate the Capitalist System, Paredon P-1014, LP (1973), trk# A.04 [1964] (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos)
Griffith, Nanci. Other Voices, Too, Elektra 62235-2, CD (1998), trk# 13
Guard, Dave; & the Whiskeyhill Singers. Dave Guard and the Whiskeyhill Singers, Capitol T 1728, LP (1962), trk# A.02 (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos)
Houston, Cisco. Cisco Houston Sings the Songs of Woody Guthrie, Vanguard VRS 9089, LP (1961), trk# A.03 (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos)
Kingston Trio. Time to Think, Capitol T 2011, LP (1964), trk# B.01
Mann, George; and Julius Margolin. Young and Younger, Running Scared, CD (1999), trk# 9
Marshall, Melora. Topanga's Woody Guthrie Folk Festival One, Sky 5006, LP (1975), trk# A.04
Odetta. Odetta Sings of Many Things, RCA (Victor) LSP 2923, LP (1964), trk# B.06
Stanley, Christopher. Love for the Land, Talkeetna 25010, CD (1999), trk# 2
Stanley, Peter. At the Sidekick, Talkeetna 25003, CD (1999), trk# 17 [1965/03]
Sweet Honey in the Rock. Other Side, Flying Fish FF 366, LP (1985), trk# A.03
Sykes, Paul. Hootenanny at the Troubadour, Horizon Wp 1616, LP (196?), trk# B.06 (Plane Crash at Los Gatos)
Talley, James. Woody Guthrie and Songs of My Oklahoma Home, Cimarron CIM 1009, CD (1999/1994), trk# 5

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,machree01
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 11:47 AM

Wolfe Tones recorded it Twice first in 1967, and then in 1974.

The link below is from Teddy Bear¡¯s Head EP.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqTkmPdyks

Teddy Bear¡¯s Head
1967 - Fontana TE 17491 EP
Deportees (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos)

Rock On Rockall¡ï
& Deportees
1975 - Dolphin DOS 123

Paddy Reilly also recorded

Paddy Reilly Live
1985¡ªREGO R47000 LP

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: ard mhacha
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 04:25 PM

Thanks Machree, very good recording.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: Amergin
Date: 08 Jul 09 - 04:48 PM

There was a musical called Woody Guthrie's American Song, the cast recorded an album....and one of the songs is Deportees where a male voice is reading the news clipping...and then they go into the song itself...

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: kzm007
Date: 19 Feb 10 - 05:30 AM

"
There was a musical called Woody Guthrie's American Song, the cast recorded an album....and one of the songs is Deportees where a male voice is reading the news clipping...and then they go into the song itself..."

This is the one, thank you very much, Amergin :) too bad I found it on LimeWire, I'll have to see if I can find the album, if any exists.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: Vin2
Date: 19 Feb 10 - 08:50 AM

I have a recording of the late great Alex Campbell singing it too.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: Amergin
Date: 19 Feb 10 - 08:56 AM

It should be out on cd....that is how I found it several years ago. It's a pretty good album.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: Amergin
Date: 19 Feb 10 - 08:58 AM

I just checked and Itunes has it....and there if you just wanted that one song, you could just purchase that....but like I said it's a good album. well, at least i like it anyway.

Subject: RE: Looking for a version of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Kegan
Date: 10 Mar 10 - 12:45 AM

I bought the album for $11.98 shipped; best money I ever spent.

Was the performance ever released on VHS tape or preferably DVD?

Kegan :)

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GRex
Date: 10 Mar 10 - 12:54 PM

Recorded by Julie Felix as 'Plane Crash at Los Gatos' on a Decca label LP "The World of Julie Felix". Don't know if it was reproduced on CD.

            GRex

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Guest: Mike K
Date: 10 Mar 10 - 02:13 PM

Recorded by The Brothers Four as 'Plane Wreck at Los Gatos (Deportee)' on Columbia label 'The Brothers Four Sing Songs of Our Time' [CS8926] No date.

MikeK

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Jim McLean
Date: 10 Mar 10 - 02:40 PM

I have an EP just called Julie Felix, Decca DFE 8613, 1965. The song title is 'Plane Crash at Los Gatos'.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Gealt
Date: 10 Mar 10 - 02:58 PM

Recorded by Paddy Reilly-'The Life of Paddy Reilly',Dolphin Records.
1971 lp. Song title 'Deportees'.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Kenny B (inactive)
Date: 12 Mar 10 - 03:09 PM

I Have the Dolly Parton Version on LP If anyone wants it give me a PM and ill send it as an emaails mp3 attachment. A Great version

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: squeezeboxhp
Date: 13 Mar 10 - 06:03 AM

it was recorded by Allan Dyson in Halifax/Huddersfield UK in the 60s on an LP called the still small voice of Allan Dyson

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Steve Shaw
Date: 12 Apr 10 - 06:21 AM

There's a superb version sung by Rory McCleod on the tribute album "Woody Lives!" It's a great album all round, if you can find it...

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Mike Solakian
Date: 24 May 10 - 05:03 PM

I can't believe no one thinks Arlo's version is the best-probably the closest we will get to hearing Woody sing it. I think it clearly brings out the emotions, etc. I had the privilege to meet Arlo at a benefit concert a few years ago and told him this was my favorite song of his-he seemed truly pleased.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Tootler
Date: 24 May 10 - 07:26 PM

Type in "Deportee" to You Tube, you will get loads of versions. Look also for "Plane Wreck at Los Gatos"

Many of those listed above are included.

I rate Dolly Parton's version.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 24 May 10 - 08:22 PM

Hi, Mike-
I agree that Arlo's recording of "Deportee" is wonderful, but I doubt that he sings it like Woody sang it. Note that the tune was written in the early 1960's by Martin Hoffman - after Woody was too sick to sing (he died in 1967). Wooid's performance of the song was described as "chanting," while Arlo uses the Martin Hoffman tune.

So, far, I haven't found any indication that there is a recording of Woody singing this song.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deporte
From: mg
Date: 25 May 10 - 01:44 AM

Here is a nice version with Sean Cannon and Dubliners (I have been on a eral Dubliners kick lately).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nks2RKbNuVY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nks2RKbNuVY

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,CAP
Date: 25 May 10 - 03:55 AM

Jon Brindley does a excellent version on his first album 'Something Calling'

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,CAP
Date: 25 May 10 - 03:59 AM

Should have also put check it out on Jon Brindley's my space page.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,tc
Date: 22 Apr 13 - 09:20 AM

So far I haven't established that he ever issued it as a record, but Johnny Rodriguez does a fine version in a video found on youtube.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Jim
Date: 27 Jan 17 - 02:26 PM

I thought there was a version, possibly by Nanci Griffith, where there is a spoken part where the narrator reads from the Fresno Bee (the Fresno newspaper). It's not on her CDs and I'm not sure it was done by her. I'd love to find it again.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jan 17 - 03:55 PM

Good day to refresh this thread, Jim. The "Plane Wreck at Los Gatos Canyon" happened about ten miles outside Coalinga in western Fresno County, California, on January 28, 1948. Nanci Griffith did indeed make a recording of Woody Guthrie's "Deportee" on her Other Voices, Too (A Trip Back to Bountiful) album. The artists on the track were Nanci Griffith, Lucinda Williams, Tish Hinojosa, Odetta, Steve Earle, and John Stewart. Here's a YouTube recording:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BpR4u9-Gd9Y

You may want to look at the other threads on this song, crosslinked up at the top of this page. This thread (click) includes a transcript of the New York Times article that inspired Woody Guthrie to write the song.

-Joe Offer-

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Jim Mady
Date: 25 Jul 17 - 10:28 PM

Born in Fresno September 30th, 1948. There is a Nanci Griffith version somewhere with a narration from the Fresno Bee. It's not on her CDs but I heard it once, lost the recording, and have been looking for it for a long time.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Joe Offer
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 12:04 AM

Hi, Jim -
I lived at Sierra & Cedar in Fresno 1976-80, and I worked all over the Central Valley for 30 years. That's why this song is special to me.

I think I've heard that recording with the newspaper voiceover, too; but I can't find it.

-Joe-

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Gerry
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 05:20 AM

John Anthony Scott, mentioned by oldhippie in a post of 10 June 2009 as editor of Ballad of America, taught history at my high school when I was there. More information about him at
https://www.historians.org/publications-and-directories/perspectives-on-history/december-2010/in-memoriam-john-anthony-(tony)-scott

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Georgiansilver
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 06:54 AM

From Youtube.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 11:29 AM

Attn: Georgiansilver The version of Deportees to which you directed us on YouTube is a recording by Arlo with Hoyt Axton. Definitely not Woody.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: Elmore
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 11:39 AM

Joe Jencks does "Deportees" on his album "Rise As One", available from CD Baby and other places. There's also a video on Youtube of Joe performing the song at the Old Songs Festival of 2016 which I find especially moving.

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 09:12 PM

Amergin (08 Jul 09) - "There was a musical called Woody Guthrie's American Song, the cast recorded an album...."

26 years of standing ovations

Also:
http://www.woodyguthrie.org/projects/wgamericansong.htm

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Phil d'Conch
Date: 26 Jul 17 - 09:31 PM

Big time cast with Bruce Springsteen lead vocals. Recorded live at Severance Hall in Cleveland, Ohio, 26 September 1996.

Plane Wreck At Los Gatos (Deportee); 'Til We Outnumber 'Em: The Songs Of Woody Guthrie, Righteous Babe Records, CD RBR019-D, 2000, trk13

Subject: RE: Looking for a particular recording of 'Deportees'
From: GUEST,Guest Susan Cho
Date: 12 Jan 19 - 03:46 PM

I have just discovered two copies of a recorded single of Joan Baez singing "Deportee (Plane Wreck at Los Gatos". A Vanguard recording SPV-6 stereo 33 1/3 rpm, 25V-223736. I am downsizing to a much smaller place and would like to find a good home for these recordings. Any suggestions?