Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent

Subject: Obit Son of Growler
From: growler
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 05:29 PM

I don't think that Martin was known to many Mudcatters. He was murdered on 3rd April and will be cremated on Monday 8th June at the Garden of England Crematorium, Bobbing, Sittingbourne. Any tibutes, please, to Emmaus, a homeless persons charity in Medway.
Anyone wishing to come on Monday, will be welcome. The wake at The Good Intent following
Simon

Subject: RE: Obit Son of Growler
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 05:36 PM

Surely, although I have agreed and do agree that it was murder, neither the inquest nor a murder trial has yet agreed with me?

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: katlaughing
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 05:44 PM

My condolences, Growler.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: growler
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 05:57 PM

True Richard, but I thing I may be biast

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Amos
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 07:31 PM

Well, who could blame you, indeed???? What on earth happened?



A

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 04 Jun 09 - 11:46 PM

I suspect that if Growler has wanted to post the story, he would have done so - unless it has (correctly) have been put to him that he should refrain from public comment in any amount of detail until after the murder trial of the bus driver.

If you do searches for "Medway" "Bus" "Martin" and "death" you will probably get many of the parts of the story from the Medway local papers. Indeed I was rather surprised (bearing in mind the Contempt of Court Act) at the extent to which apparent eye-witness accounts, the truth of which will no doubt be central to the murder trial, have been reported and published.

Amos, you will probably appreciate that the UK law on publication pending trial is very different from that in the USA.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Amos
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 01:00 AM

I quite understand, Richard. Thanks.


My condolences.


A

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 02:30 AM

Simon / Growler has had my thoughts and hugs since I found out not too long after it happened. I wanted to post something a while back, but felt it should be done by Simon if and when he was ready.

I am useless at words of comfort, Simon. Just know I am still thinking about you. Hope to see you at Linda's BBQ or Knockholt when I can give a proper hug again.

Tam

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: open mike
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:07 AM

my sympathy to your family

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Hawker
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:22 AM

Oh Simon! I had no idea, so sorry to hear of your loss, you are all in my thoughts and prayers,
Much Love, Lucy x

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Dave the Gnome
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:30 AM

As a father of 5 I can envisage the grief you must feel but just cannot imagine the depth of the trauma. My very sincere condolances.

No help to you I'm afraid but if you look up 'Arriva bus death Salford' you will find details of an incident local to me that happened last May. We have 3 bus companies operating in the area and as soon as I heard that one had been involved in a fatal collision I knew it was going to be an Arriva driver. Arriva drivers appear to have received the worst training of any operatives I have ever seen and the number of times I have seen them driving erraticaly is ubelievable!

Regards

Dave

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: SylviaN
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:30 AM

Simon - so very, very sorry to learn of your loss and the circumstances.

Our thoughts are with you and your family.

Sylvia and Keith

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Ruth Archer
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:31 AM

What a dreadful thing. Condolences.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Bryn Pugh
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 05:34 AM

May the Great Mother and the All Father comfort you, and bring him Peace.

So mote it be.

Erica and Bryn

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: melodeonboy
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:10 AM

Growler and his family have suffered greatly over the past two months.

During this time he's not only been a steadfast support to the rest of his family, but has carried on running the Good Intent folk nights - in addition to the Sweeps singarounds - and has continued to bring pleasure to others by both his music and his presence despite his pain.

Growler, I salute you.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: ranger1
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 06:56 AM

Condolences from Maine.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: The Barden of England
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 08:04 AM

A horrible thing for any family to go through, and you know our thoughts are with you and your family Simon.
John & Jan

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: fat B****rd
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 08:24 AM

Condolences and very best regards from Charlie in Dunfermline.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Essex Girl
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 08:27 AM

I'll be thinking of you on Monday Simon, you have my greatest sympathies.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: jacqui.c
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 08:33 AM

So sorry Growler. Good thoughts coming to you from Maine.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: SINSULL
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 09:12 AM

I am sorry. Candle lit and a prayer said.
Mary

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Catherine Jayne
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 09:34 AM

Sorry to hear of your loss

Khatt

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Maryrrf
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 09:41 AM

I am so sorry. Words fail, all I can offer is condolences. What a horrible thing to happen.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 11:05 AM

Very sorry to hear, Simon. My condolences and best wishes to you and to all of your family.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: naughtyforty
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 11:32 AM

My thoughts are with you and your family Simon.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: wrotham-arms-jen
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 11:57 AM

it is impossible to find the words...
my condolences simon
jen

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Mrrzy
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 12:03 PM

I'm so sorry!

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: wysiwyg
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 12:24 PM

Oh my, I had no idea. You have my sincerest condolences and my hope for the strongest possible support all around you.

~Susan

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 01:09 PM

Re Melodeonboy's post above - Seconded.

Simoln even sang something (a funny song) I had been requesting since the Christmas Wassail at the Good Intent.

Thank you for that Simon and all the work you put into promoting amateur music and Emmaus.

Tam

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: BB
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:04 PM

Simon, I can't begin to imagine how you and your family must be feeling, but please accept my sympathy for you all in your terrible loss. I hope Monday is as good a farewell as it can be for you all.

Barbara

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:15 PM

Impossibly sad...

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: jeddy
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:24 PM

simon, i am really sorryb to hear of your loss. our thoughts are with you. i am sure that when you speak to him he can hear you and is now and will forever be watching over you and your family.
take care and know that lots of people have you in their thoughts x x

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: growler
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:29 PM

Thanks to everyone, I have been on the folk scene in Kent for some twelve years and in that time have met some lovely people. I am proud to be in that fraternity. I posted this for information rather than to gather sympathy and as Richard pointed out, should not have used the phrase that I did. This was not my fault, as Kevin gave me a bottle of whiskey that he had won in a raffle.
   Good health to you all
    Thanks
      Simon

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler
From: RoyH (Burl)
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 03:53 PM

My wife and I send our condolences Simon. Burl

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent
From: Anne Lister
Date: 05 Jun 09 - 04:22 PM

So sorry to read about this, Simon - sending our heartfelt condolences.



My sister was knocked down by a bus a couple of years ago, when she was legally parked in a layby in order to help my disabled mother out of the car. The bus knocked her over and carried off the car door. Luckily my sister only suffered heavy bruising (heavy enough to have left a permanent lump, however) but she has been coping with post-traumatic shock ever since. The most amazing part of the incident, however, was that the bus driver tried to claim that he wasn't driving the bus at the time - this despite there being lots of witnesses including a police officer who knew the driver well.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent
From: Richard Bridge
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 04:29 AM

Bus drivers suffer work penalties if they cause accidents - so usually lie. My late mother was scared out of driving by a bus driver. He pulled out of a bus-stop, ripped up the side of her car, and drove off. Then he told his employers who told the police that she had driven into him and driven off. Fortunately the damage to the side of her car showed that the only way she could have driven into him was if she was driving sideways and backwards at the time. But she never drove again.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent
From: Anne Lister
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 06:19 AM

I don't want to let this thread drift as it's far more important than my sister's story - but in her case, Richard, it was impossible to understand why the driver lied, as he was interviewed at the scene of the accident at the time and he was clearly rostered on as the driver at the depot as well.

Again, Simon, my sincerest condolences on your loss.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent
From: Girl Friday
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 03:45 PM

Sorry Simon. We can't be there for you on Monday, but will be thinking of you.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good In
From: Half of No Worries
Date: 06 Jun 09 - 05:39 PM

Will be thinking of you and your family. Sorry we can't be there on Monday.
Love
Marion and Brian

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent
From: Dipsodeb
Date: 07 Jun 09 - 08:28 AM

So sorry to hear of your loss Simon, Pat and I both send our condolences.
Love
Debs

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good In
From: Pierre Le Chapeau
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 06:33 AM

Be thinking of you Simon.
All the best Pierre

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good In
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 02:01 PM

In our thoughts tonight, Simon.

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent
From: growler
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 05:17 PM

What a day! Paddy led the cortage with the bagpipes, Cari and Kevin played so sweetly, (something that I would not normally describe Kevin's style). The whole day was wonderful.Thanks to Karen and Dal. who put on such a spread at The Good Intent. Nobody could want for a better send off.   Thanks to all   Simon

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent
From: My guru always said
Date: 08 Jun 09 - 05:23 PM

So sorry to hear of this Simon, condolences and candle lit.
Hil x

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent
From: synbyn
Date: 09 Jun 09 - 11:35 AM

Sorry I couldn't be there, Simon, - no words adequate
Bob

Subject: RE: Obit: Son of Growler - 8 June- Wake at Good Intent
From: billybob
Date: 10 Jun 09 - 09:29 AM

So sorry ,Simon.Your in our thoughts.
Wendy