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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Amos Date: 15 Jun 09 - 07:21 PM Hannity is particularly irritating because he has the face of a small boy, and apparently the life-experience of an adolescent, and yet has been handed the megaphone of an important adult. He is not; he is a spoiled small-minded person. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: number 6 Date: 15 Jun 09 - 07:22 PM "Their extreme disrespect toward those they disagree with and their promotion of hate-and-fear-based irrationality is a public offence because it undermines the very idea of public dialogue." The fool Hannity has a way with people from both sides of the political spectrum to fall into the above statement. Sad that people (left and right) get so emotionally worked up over his verbal spew. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Bobert Date: 15 Jun 09 - 07:42 PM Well, Carol, ask yer ol' freinds back in Wes Ginny... Fox has been broadcasting on the public airwaves since, ahhhh, back in the late 70's or early 80's... In DC it has been Channel 5... 4,5.7 and 9... 4 = NBC 5 = FOX 7 = ABC 9 = CBS I don't care all that much that the cable version of FOX has the mkore inflamatory jerks... It's all the same company and Channel 5 has it's own certain rightie slant to it, sans the most jerkiests of the jerks... Same company... Same Rupert Murdock... Just a tad watered down rightie station and *****it is***** and *****has been**** sent over the public airwaves gong back at least 20 years... Google "Channel 5, Fox News, Washington, D.C." and you'll find that this ol' hillbilly knows of what I talk here... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 09 - 08:50 PM The FOX that's on channel 5 is not FOX NEWS. It's a local affiliate that hasn't got any of the programming that FOX NEWS has. It's all reruns of sitcoms, old movies, and stupid daytime programming like Judge Judy and Jerry Springer. None of the programming that is being complained about in this thread is broadcast on FOX's local affiliates like channel 5. All of the programming that is being complained about in this thread is on FOX's cable network. And only there. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Bobert Date: 15 Jun 09 - 08:53 PM You ever watch their news, Carol??? I do... I watch iot at 10:00 at night and is very right leaning... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 09 - 08:56 PM BTW, I grew up watching FOX's channel 5 in the DC suburbs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: CarolC Date: 15 Jun 09 - 08:58 PM Our FOX affiliate's local news is just like all other local news. My son used to be one of the engineers for the local affiliate's local news. I used to watch it a lot. It's just like everyone else's local news. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: C. Ham Date: 16 Jun 09 - 03:56 PM I believe that FOX is a cable network. We don't get cable here, and we don't get FOX NEWS. Boy, for somebody who doesn't get Fox News, she sure has a lot to say about it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Riginslinger Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:49 PM The only thing one can really say about it is it ain't news, but MSNBC isn't either. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: CarolC Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:36 PM I am subjected to FOX NEWS every time I go the the bank, the mechanic, the doctor's office, any place they have a TV on in a waiting area, I have to watch FOX NEWS. So I know a bit about it through being tortured by it while having to wait. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: fumblefingers Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:49 PM Obviously most of you lefties don't watch Fox News. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: CarolC Date: 16 Jun 09 - 08:07 PM I try to avoid it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Amos Date: 16 Jun 09 - 08:25 PM Fox is not a terrorist organization, no. But they tend toward terror-mongering, which is a derivative. A |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Riginslinger Date: 16 Jun 09 - 09:46 PM And Enron almost destroyed the country with derivatives. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Ebbie Date: 16 Jun 09 - 10:40 PM "Waxman's legislative priorities are health and environmental issues. These include universal health insurance, Medicare and Medicaid coverage, tobacco, AIDS, air and water quality standards, pesticides, nursing home quality standards, women's health research and reproductive rights, the availability and cost of prescription drugs, and the right of communities to know about pollution levels. Also, he is known to be in favor of gun control, he was quoted as saying "If someone is so fearful that they are going to start using their weapons to protect their rights, it makes me very nervous that these people have weapons at all."[1] from Wiki For the record, Rig, I have admired Waxman for years. (And he does have a point about gun owners!) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: plnelson Date: 16 Jun 09 - 10:41 PM Obviously most of you lefties don't watch Fox News. I don't watch any TV. So what? I don't live in Iraq or Uganda either, but that doesn't mean I'm not well-enough informed to know that they're screwed-up. TV is not the only, or even best, source of information - even about TV! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: DougR Date: 17 Jun 09 - 01:36 AM Right, Bobert, I think any publication that doesn't promote your left wing line should be forced to go out of business, and their principals committed to Gitmo! After all there is going to be a lot of space there when the Messiah closes it down. Now, I assume you feel it would be also be fair for any publication that doesn't promote my right wing line should suffer the same fate, right? Fair is fair, right? Or is the Second Amendment to the U. S. Constitution to be done away with altogether? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Peace Date: 17 Jun 09 - 01:40 AM "and their principals committed to Gitmo!" So, ya figure there might be something juuussst a weeee bit wrong at Gitmo, Doug? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Riginslinger Date: 17 Jun 09 - 08:35 AM "For the record, Rig, I have admired Waxman for years. (And he does have a point about gun owners!)" If Waxman had his way about guns, what would be the point of David Letterman going hunting with Sarah Palin? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Bobert Date: 17 Jun 09 - 08:37 AM Dougie, Dougie, Dougie... What am I going to do with you??? First of all, seeing as you have not kept up with the gun thread, I have no problems with the 2nd ammendment as it was written... What I have problems with is folks who absolutely have no need for the first half of the ammendment because it ties gun ownership to the right to form a militia... And as for the 1st ammendment I doubt very seriously if the Founding Fathers would have approved of someone yelling "Fire" ina crowded theater... As for sending right-wing wacko principles to Gitmo I'd be just as happy for them to simply be taken off the public airwaves... There aren't any left-wing wackos on the public airwaves... I'm not sure why the right seems to think they have priveledges that the left isn't entitled to enjoy... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: beardedbruce Date: 17 Jun 09 - 07:48 PM Bobert, I have found an organization of like-thinking folks for you to join with... "The government has blocked certain Web sites, such as BBC Farsi, Facebook, Twitter and several pro-Mousavi sites that are vital conduits for Iranians to tell the world about protests and violence. Many other sites, including Gmail and Yahoo, were unusually slow and rarely connect. Mousavi condemned the blocking of Web sites, saying the government did not tolerate the voice of the opposition. The Revolutionary Guard, an elite force answering to Khamenei, said through the state news service that its investigators have taken action against "deviant news sites" that encouraged public disturbances. The Guard is a separate military with enormous domestic influence and control of Iran's most important defense programs. It is one of the establishment's key sources of power. The statement alleged that dissident Web sites were backed by Canadian, U.S. and British interests, a frequent charge by hard-liners against the opposition. "Legal action will be very strong and call on them to remove such materials," it said. " And to help with your plans to remove all those that espouse views you do not agree with: "The U.S.-based International Campaign for Human Rights in Iran said several dozen noted figures associated with the reform movement have been arrested, among them politicians, intellectuals, activists and journalists. Tehran-based analyst Saeed Leilaz, who is often quoted by Western media, was arrested Wednesday by plainclothes security officers at his home, said his wife, Sepehrnaz Panahi. At least 10 Iranian journalists have been arrested since the election, Reporters Without Borders said. " |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Kent Davis Date: 18 Jun 09 - 12:45 AM If an organization commits terrorism, it is a terrorist organization. Not even Bobert thinks FOX News has committed actual terrorism, that Sean Hannity has been planting bombs or Bill O'Reilly throwing molotov cocktails. If an organization praises and justifies terrorism, it is a terrorist-supporting organization. The old Sein Fein comes to mind. Not a single clip or quote has been or can be produced in which anyone on FOX praises or justifies any terrorist act. Not one. If an organization is appreciated by terrorists, or if it reflects a political view shared by a terrorists, is it therefore "a terrorist organization"? The Unabomber was a terrorist. Does that mean the Sierra Club is a terrorist organization? Should we forbid their magazine to be sent through the U.S. Postal Service? Kent |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: CarolC Date: 18 Jun 09 - 12:51 AM Terrorism is the practice of terrorizing people in order to control their behavior. I'd say FOX absolutely uses that tactic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: CarolC Date: 18 Jun 09 - 12:52 AM (It's not always necessary to blow people up in order to instill terror.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: GUEST,Number 6 Date: 18 Jun 09 - 08:35 AM Yeah .... in that perspective I guess you can call FOX News somewhat of a terrorist organization. also "in that perspective" I'd say I myself have been a terrorist. "if you don't pass the year you have lost your driving the Jeep previliges" ... me to my son when he was 17 yrs. "ok Otis, if your not going to eat your chow forget about any treats today" ... me to my hound and I have been a victim of terrosm on more tha a few times in my life. "if you guys don't get this project successfuly implemented on time your all fired" ... a former demanding boss of mine "if you don't get your act together your going to fail this subject" ... a former grade 11 math teacher of mine, a real terrorist. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: CarolC Date: 18 Jun 09 - 12:41 PM Personally, I wouldn't expect those examples to instill terror. Fear perhaps, anxiety, maybe even dread, but I rather doubt most parents (or bosses) would deliberately try to instill terror in their children (or employees). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: GUEST,number 6 Date: 18 Jun 09 - 01:11 PM Depends with the situation ... It was a feeling of intense fear and dread (a feeling of terror) to my son my son at 17, at the thought of not having the Jeep to cruise around in ... to anyone else it would be an annoyance. The thought of getting fired at that time in my life would leave me shuttering in terror as I was the sole provider to my family at that time. Sure, in all probability I would find a new job if I had to ... and in hindsight it should have left me in astate of anxiety, not terror. So ... some people are terrorized by FOX News, some like my self just get annoyed by the likes of Sean Hannity. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: GUEST,number 6 Date: 18 Jun 09 - 01:16 PM I should elaborate more ... some people feel FOX News is manipulating the populace through terror (as in your above definition), others like myself feel it is just a 24/7 news channel that espouses it right leaning views. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: DougR Date: 18 Jun 09 - 01:36 PM Bobert: Touche! I got my amendments wrong. So that even you, my friend, will understand what I mean: banning talk radio because it features program content espousing a political philosophy other than your own SHOULD be a violation of the "free speech" amendment. That would be true even if said radio station was featuring talk show hots that espouse a political philosophy other than mine! The reason liberal talk shows have not succeeded on radio is there are not enough liberals to support one. As you know, there have been several efforts to establish one, but the support from liberal listeners is simply not there. As to Gitmo: no, I don't think there is anything wrong with Gitmo. It is serving the purposse for which it was built very well. Obama shot from the hip and announced it's closing before he had a plan for what to do with the terrorists it houses. No surprise there, Obama has been so busy trying to wreck our free enterprise system he probably is too fatigued to make sensible pronouncements. DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: GUEST,Number 6 Date: 18 Jun 09 - 02:07 PM "The reason liberal talk shows have not succeeded on radio is there are not enough liberals to support one" I think the reason is most (true)liberals are too intelligent to bother to listen to all these 7/24 radio/TV news commentary shows spewing out their ridiculous political rhetoric. biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: DougR Date: 18 Jun 09 - 06:37 PM Guest Number 6: Wow! Do you wear your official "I'm too intelligent to listen to talk radio" sign on your back? DougR |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Peace Date: 18 Jun 09 - 06:48 PM Actually, Doug, #6 is a highly intelligent man. FYI. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: number 6 Date: 19 Jun 09 - 10:41 AM Doug ... no I don't ... I haven't since 1979 when I wasn't allowed into a saloon that had a strict policy of "no club colours or patches allowed" biLL |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Stringsinger Date: 19 Jun 09 - 07:21 PM Fox News has its antecedents in Father Coughlins and Gerald L.K. Smith. It would probably have endorsed McCarthy during that period. It's a propaganda organ with little factual credence. Let's not get into what is a terrorist organization because there is plenty of activity today from many countries including the U.S. that would fall into that nebulous category. One person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter. Fox is B.S. News. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Alice Date: 18 Sep 09 - 06:27 PM FOX news ran a full page newspaper ad today claiming that the other tv networks "missed" the news story on the 9/12 tea party march on Washington. Hmmmm... well, as Rick Sanchez of CNN says to FOX, "You Lie!". Contrary to Fox's ad, ABC, CBS, NBC, MSNBC and CNN all covered the news. The video of Rick Sanchez's response is worth watching. Link to that is in the print article below. FOX even used a CNN news photo in the ad! Link to response to FOX (even Bill O'Reilley on FOX talked about CNN's coverage of the event). Networks respond to false Fox ad |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: McGrath of Harlow Date: 18 Sep 09 - 06:47 PM Surely accusing Fox News of lying is like accusing a stripper of being underdressed. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Alice Date: 18 Sep 09 - 07:14 PM Here is a permanent link to the article (the other won't last). Networks respond to false Fox ad (cnn.com) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Bobert Date: 18 Sep 09 - 07:23 PM If I am not mistaken, FOX was part of organizing the Million Idiot March... That alone should be justification to pull their FCC license... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Alice Date: 18 Sep 09 - 08:00 PM If you watch the Rick Sanchez video weighs in on FOX's ad VIDEO you will hear Sanchez make the point that CNN and the others COVERED the event, but did not PROMOTE the event. Video is worth watching (short ad first). |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Riginslinger Date: 18 Sep 09 - 10:19 PM This partisan hatred has gone beyond anything that's reasonable. I was listening to NPR today and this lady kept bringing up the "birthers" as if they were mindless idiots. I believe Barack Obama was born in America. I think he was legally elected to the office. The fact that he will not produce his birth certificate--the entire thing--tells me there's something on it he doesn't want the public to know. Rare blood type of something. So I see the lady as being half-right. I think it's stupid for the "birthers" to protest his election to the offic, but I still wonder about Obama's certificate. This ongoing food fight is simply not helpful! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Alice Date: 18 Sep 09 - 11:12 PM oh, geez. His birth certificate HAS BEEN produced. I've got to agree with the NPR lady. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Alice Date: 18 Sep 09 - 11:22 PM http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Donuel Date: 18 Sep 09 - 11:36 PM Lou Dobbs on the air is not protected by free speech guarantees, nor is FOX. They are governed by the FCC as broadcast privileges NOT the Constitution. Lou Dobbs is being told that his lies have caused the needless deaths of tens of thousands of people and that CNN should at the minimum fire him. Who says this? Mexican lawyers. Change the FCC and you change the enforement of the laws. didya hear me FOX |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: GUEST,TIA Date: 19 Sep 09 - 12:50 AM " this lady kept bringing up the "birthers" as if they were mindless idiots." Oh no. They are surely geniuses. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Bobert Date: 19 Sep 09 - 10:58 AM Well, Rigs, why do you believe that Obama was born in the US if he, as you say, can't produce his birth certificate... Seems to me as if you are a "closet birther"... Back to the FCC... The public airwaves are owned by all of US... Fox has a license granted by (all of US) to use these airwaves... Now it one thing to use the public airwaved to express opinions but quite another to for any media company to have access to them when that media company is also in the business of organizing and promoting anti-government demonstrations... And before anyone screams that NPR also does this I'd ask that that person please provide sources where NPR has been an active participant in organizing and promoting such events... Until then, I still of the opinion that FOX should have it's license pulled by the FCC... If it wants to be just another cable channel, fine... B~ |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: GUEST,TIA Date: 19 Sep 09 - 11:04 AM Fox News is the opposition party. There is no longer a real Republican Party. There is Fox News, and the republicans do its bidding. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Alice Date: 19 Sep 09 - 11:14 AM FOX News plus Clear Channel Radio (Rush Limbaugh) are leading the Republican party. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Stringsinger Date: 19 Sep 09 - 03:47 PM Bobert, this should be a declarative statement not a question. Of course they are. They incite unlawful violence, tell lies to inflame their listeners and support hate-mongers such as....Hannity, Limbaugh, etc. And the anchors and media people are totally ignorant. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Stringsinger Date: 20 Sep 09 - 10:01 AM Any news organization who metaphorically yells fire in a crowded theater is a terrorist. Stirring up right-wing militias to kill Obama is a terrorist action. I bet they wouldn't permit this kind of nonsense in Australia. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Is Fox News a Terrorist Organization??? From: Amos Date: 03 Jul 10 - 12:56 PM Fox's position on cultural values: "Fox: Are Libraries "a Waste of Tax Money"? Books have already been pronounced dead; it was only a matter of time before libraries were sentenced to the same fate. In cash-strapped Illinois, a Fox News station is trying to help the state figure out how to save a few bucks. Libraries, they've decided, are the sort of things that can go. "With the Internet and e-books, do we really need millions for libraries?" Fox's Anna Davlantes asks. "They eat up millions of your hard-earned tax dollars. It's money that could be used to keep your child's school running." Plus, libraries are really old! "These institutions," Davlantes says, "date back to 1900 B.C." (Nothing says "outdated" like a B.C. birthdate.) But if Illinois shutters its libraries, it won't be because they're not used. In fact, people check items out from Illinios' 799 public libraries 88 million times every year. One of the country's busiest libraries, the Harold Washington Library in downtown Chicago has 5,000 visitors a day. But Davlantes just isn't sure their activities are worthwhile. "We used an undercover camera to see how many people used the library and what they were doing," Davlantes reports. She counted 300 visitors, but "most of them were using the free Internet. The bookshelves? Not so much."" Slate magazine |
