Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 09 Jul 10 - 04:24 PM must play West Hampstead to Stanmore before the Jubilee line closure tomorrow. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Lox Date: 20 Nov 09 - 02:36 PM Indeed Mr Red, Especially in Alpine public toilets ... ... swiss cottage ... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Mr Red Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:50 AM Don't look at the mantlepiece whilst you are stoking the fire. Burnt Oak |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 20 Nov 09 - 08:24 AM Is this Cockfosters? I'll find out madam.....Foster.... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: mandotim Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:36 AM Arsenal eh? That demands use of the little-known Hooligan reverse, ignoring the Maida Vale dimensional shift....Tottenham Court Road! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: David C. Carter Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:08 AM That should have been: Mind your backs!Arsenal! I'll get me coat. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: David C. Carter Date: 20 Nov 09 - 06:02 AM Mind the doors! Arsenal! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Mingulay Date: 19 Nov 09 - 07:06 PM Using the Uxbridge Ploy of course means getting from Ickenham to Twickenham without changing at Wembley Park or loitering at Acton. Competitors are disqualified if found to be humming Baker Street. Mind the gap!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Bryn Pugh Date: 19 Nov 09 - 10:54 AM Ahem. Arnos Grove. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Roger the Skiffler Date: 19 Nov 09 - 06:33 AM Are you going to Clapham? only if they're very good! (boom kerching) RtS (don't clap too loud, it's a very old building) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Mr Red Date: 18 Nov 09 - 09:37 AM Decent - (v. USA origin unknown) Broke |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Lox Date: 17 Nov 09 - 05:54 PM Diminnuendo - As above ... but where the sun don't shine ... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: mandotim Date: 17 Nov 09 - 04:34 PM Innuendo - Italian suppository Tim |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 17 Nov 09 - 04:33 PM err.... castrato |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 17 Nov 09 - 04:17 PM As I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue season is upon us again, I offer this Uxbridge English definition Nobless O'Blige - famous Irish castrati (thanks TSO) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Lox Date: 10 Sep 09 - 05:26 PM A married couple were having difficulties with their relationship so they went to see a marriage guidance counsellor. "we never talk" sobbed the wife ... ... the counsellor said "hang on, I know exactly what to do". then he ran out of the room. When he returned he was carrying a double bass, upon which he proceeded to play a solo ... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 10 Sep 09 - 02:01 PM Lead Guitar - heavy metal instrument. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: ced2 Date: 10 Sep 09 - 11:19 AM A major:- one rank above A captain, A flat minor:- the result of a pit accident when the piano fell down the shaft. A flat major:- ditto but involving the stairwell at Sandhurst. B bl--dy flat:- the most commonly sung key in the universe F-off sharp:- the perfect key for an unwanted interloper. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Mr Red Date: 10 Sep 09 - 06:06 AM Cajun - prison music. Banjo - not in here you don't. Bluegrass - Picasso can't paint like Bill Monroe. Gregorian - a game of chants. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 10 Sep 09 - 03:08 AM diminuendo - not a very clever remark |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Lox Date: 09 Sep 09 - 06:31 PM serialism - an irrational hatred of corn flakes tintinambulation - hospitalization of a young french reporter chords of resonance - vibrating trousers transposition - staring into space chord extensions - flares diminished chords - shrunk in the wash Ionian - Ian is my slave Dorian - Ian close the door sharp eleven - a good football team slur - how fast snails in Hull move |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 09 Sep 09 - 12:23 PM Key Signature - needed to borrow the office keys. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: mandotim Date: 09 Sep 09 - 03:24 AM Bar line = service is really slow in the pub Vauxhall...hmmmm How about the Franklin detour, which would take us to Borough? Tim |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Lox Date: 08 Sep 09 - 09:35 AM Brieve - to take a bref ... You'll never get away with vauxhall without a getaway driver ... ... perhaps a Seychellois tour-guide ... with a full licence of course ... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Mr Red Date: 08 Sep 09 - 06:59 AM Embankment? That would leave you with Vauxhall....... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 07 Sep 09 - 07:11 PM Tutti - A chorus of tin whistles |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Lox Date: 07 Sep 09 - 04:49 PM I have just been looking over that game of Mornington crescent and was shocked to note that even though it was made clear early on that stephen fry was "chairing", there was no "cross" refernce made to this when sugarfoot trumped with such bombast. Therefore I must post.houmous.ly (as I have just had a greek salad) issue a Chairing Cross block! Which I'm afraid leaves us high and dry on the embankment. tsk ... all that work for nothing!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: TheSilentOne Date: 07 Sep 09 - 04:26 PM Or even crotchet with a "t" ! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: TheSilentOne Date: 07 Sep 09 - 04:10 PM Indie: all in the same key Crochet: one quarter irritable |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 07 Sep 09 - 02:22 PM Ragtime = monthly feminine condition Allegro = a line or queue of lower limbs Pizzicato = takeaway food for felines Homophony = pretending to be a man Madrigal = King George (mad regal) Pentatonic = five gins no water Prelude = just before you are flashed Staccato = to stack cats |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: ced2 Date: 07 Sep 09 - 07:04 AM Minim.. A diminutive male musician |
Subject: RE: BS: Uxbridge Dictionary of Music From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 06 Sep 09 - 05:45 PM Semi Quaver = Half eaten noisy snack |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 06 Sep 09 - 05:18 PM Symphony = fake 3D computer game Rap music = to dress a song in pretty paper and ribbon |
Subject: RE: BS: Uxbridge Dictionary of Music From: GUEST,GHOST OF HUMPH Date: 06 Sep 09 - 01:49 PM The teams will now play a round of Uxbridge Dictionary of Music. As new forms of music arise, it brings with it new terms and new definitions. Take the word 'folk'. This word alone has two entire volumes defining what 'folk' is. The teams will, in turn inform us of other new words that have recently entered the music vancular, and their meanings.... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: TRUBRIT Date: 11 Aug 09 - 10:35 PM So much enjoyed reading this -- congrats to the glorious winner.....!!!!! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Wyrd Sister Date: 10 Aug 09 - 11:48 AM ...Mr & Mrs Ingtoncreddent and their catarrhal daughter Maud... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: The Barden of England Date: 10 Aug 09 - 10:46 AM Bath - bah! Far too posh for me so it just has to be Whitechapel - so there |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Mr Red Date: 10 Aug 09 - 08:22 AM Les from Hull Banjo Patterson eh? How do you waltz to the toon of Waltzing Matlida? As a mere drummer even I know it isn't a waltz - well not the toon known to the Rochester Recruiting Seageant. So - are we trying to reach Royal Crescent? I will start from (Gordon) Bennet Street |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Paul Burke Date: 09 Aug 09 - 04:57 PM The remains of Roman Bath were, of course, the setting of the Anglo-Saxon poem lamenting the broken down ruins. On my right.... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,GHOST OF HUMPH Date: 09 Aug 09 - 04:14 PM Welcome to the August mudcat edition of Sorry I Havn't A Clue, the antidote to panel games. This months edition hails from Bath in Somerset, notable for the collaboration between Hammond and Gardiner who helped preserve folk heritage though contact with source singers who preserved part of our culture which we enjoy today. Let's introduce the panel...... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 28 Jun 09 - 08:27 AM Just flown in from America Mr and Mrs HillbilliesbyFlattnScruggs and their daughter Beverley. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Paul Burke Date: 26 Jun 09 - 03:38 PM Be upstanding ladies and gentlemen for Mr. and Mrs Yachoon-Datfeckin-Thynge and their son Will. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Les from Hull Date: 26 Jun 09 - 01:11 PM And all the way from Australia Mr and Mrs Patterson and their son Banjo. The next dance will be a waltz. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 26 Jun 09 - 11:12 AM Mr and Mrs TwangyPlinkyPlonkyWangyThing and their son . . . Neil. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 26 Jun 09 - 11:07 AM Mr. and Mrs. Ling and their son Fray. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 26 Jun 09 - 10:56 AM Mr and Mrs Bennetnotabloodybanjo and their son....... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 26 Jun 09 - 10:54 AM Mr and Mrs Pick, and their son wezmefooking. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 26 Jun 09 - 05:10 AM Mr and Mrs Intrusive and their son Loudon . . . |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 26 Jun 09 - 04:43 AM Mr. and Mrs. Ring and their son Tone... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,CrazyEddie Date: 26 Jun 09 - 03:40 AM Mr & Mrs Lynn-Banjoes, and their daughter, Jewel Lynn-Banjoes |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Paul Burke Date: 25 Jun 09 - 03:21 PM Mr and Mrs Letthatfockinbanjoplayerin, and their son Hugh... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,GHOST OF HUMPH Date: 24 Jun 09 - 06:03 PM That leaves us with time for one final quick round of late arrivals to the banjo players ball. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 24 Jun 09 - 03:45 PM My compliments to all the participants - and to Jack for a great win - that was a game of the highest quality. Oh that our Wimbledon (Wimbledon! Wish I'd played that...) players were as gifted. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Folkiedave Date: 24 Jun 09 - 01:01 PM Indeed hearty congratulations to Sugarfoot - or can I call you Jack? I still maintain that third quadrant was not allowed when in nip - but never let it be said I am a curmudgeon. July's game should be played totally in nip - that will stop any arguments. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 24 Jun 09 - 12:19 PM Congratulations Sugarfoot Jack. Likewise honoured. So what shall we play in July? New Definitions? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 24 Jun 09 - 11:45 AM It's been an honour to compete alongside such excellent and esteemed players. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 23 Jun 09 - 01:55 PM Mornington Crescent still stands - in spite of all the waffle. Unless there's a real challenge, Sugarfoot Jack claims the June Competition Prize. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: ced2 Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:19 AM Bit London centric that game. I Will have to try and find the rules for the Northern Version of the game based on the Queensbury Triangle. Think I might have loaned them out, probably to Eric the Red. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 23 Jun 09 - 11:08 AM Hmmm. Good point. If I try Kaminski's Inversion and go via Gallions Reach will that do? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Mr Red Date: 23 Jun 09 - 10:25 AM BalHam to MC - according to "the Distinction of Parallels" you would have to avoid Pimlico which is a tall order. Can you try going via Highgate and Hanger Lane now that capital punishment is no longer on the statute? The gyratory system is beautiful at htis time of year. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 23 Jun 09 - 09:09 AM Mornington Crescent! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: David C. Carter Date: 22 Jun 09 - 06:54 AM Bal-Ham. Gateway to the south. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Paul Burke Date: 21 Jun 09 - 07:02 PM "Been to Brick Lane already" or "Been to Golder's Green already" would be comprehensible already. Roding Valley as a punishment. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 21 Jun 09 - 06:36 PM Been to New Cross Gate already! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Paul Burke Date: 21 Jun 09 - 04:09 PM It's Sunday, de Selby's Paradigm- New Cross Gate! You're in congee. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: David C. Carter Date: 21 Jun 09 - 03:01 PM "Are you a tube worker?".....Is this a set up? I've never worked for anyone,how dare you accuse me of "working?" And I've never infiltrated anything....or anyone for that matter! Well,my private life is my own affair anyway.....so there! Stockwell. Get out of that! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 21 Jun 09 - 01:57 PM Coburg Square - need I say more... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Micca Date: 21 Jun 09 - 11:50 AM Well since it is midsummer and the "druids" are probably out in force Primrose Hill!Look here |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: paula t Date: 21 Jun 09 - 11:32 AM Ah... My slow typing means I have played Brondesbuty park for Swiss Cottage....When the last play was Seven Oaks! An illegal move under article 2 subsection 7 (revised) I've actually huffed myself! Serves me right for some rather unsporting gloating! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: paula t Date: 21 Jun 09 - 10:38 AM Swiss Cottage eh? That means I have no choice but to play......(You can guess what it's going to be).................... Brondesbury Park I think that puts you in knip! (sorry, but you walked into that one) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 21 Jun 09 - 10:38 AM Back to Swiss Cottage? Guitaress already attempted to finish the game a few posts ago with a play of Mornington Crescent from Swiss Cottage. However the weekend works on the line still stand so you cannot have got back to Swiss Cottage unless you arrived there by one of the works trains. David are you a tube worker infiltrating the game? I have just come from a stonking good weekend at Knockholt.... so I offer Seven Oaks (which really is only One Oak since the hurricane). |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: David C. Carter Date: 21 Jun 09 - 08:15 AM Sven just sent me a message by carrier pigeon saying he would be absent for a day or three because he's refurbishing his new boy scout hut,situated in Soho Square. He's put the word out that he's hoping to receieve as many new members as he can accomodate,and says he's wide open to all comers. Who am I to question his wisdom! Swiss Cottage. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 21 Jun 09 - 07:23 AM Royal Oak's a bit severe for a Sunday morning. I can only respond with Lancaster Gate - an elegant play by Kronsteen from the World Championships of 1983. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 21 Jun 09 - 07:21 AM I tried this earlier and was challenged but I think I can play it now as it is a variation on the Cholmondley Double-Switch (Sunday mornings and Peak times) Shoreditch |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 21 Jun 09 - 07:05 AM The reason why High Barnet is that the only alternative would have been Colindale which would have led to the immediate response of Stonebridge Park and we all know what happens after that, don't we.,, Cockfosters??? then ..... of course Royal Oak |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,GHOST OF HUMPH Date: 20 Jun 09 - 05:01 PM Listeners may hae noticed that the panel have been a bit on the quiet side. This was due to a large bluebottle which has been buzzing around the auditorium. This has now been duly dispatched by Samantha who informs us that she has been responsible for the undoing of a large number of flies. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Paul Burke Date: 20 Jun 09 - 04:17 PM Somebody said Mornington Crescent back there, but I'm not sure why they said Mornington Crescent. Is this some kind of game? Can someone tell me what's going on, and why High Barnet? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 20 Jun 09 - 12:14 PM Unfortunately, I've just come out of my local yet again (hic!). Cockfosters! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: David C. Carter Date: 20 Jun 09 - 11:43 AM Come,come now Will-I think you also overlooked the Wind Chill factor! We've got to keep this on the rails you know! And stay out of your Sussex Local. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 20 Jun 09 - 08:11 AM Lordy, Lordy - I was playing in Sussex Local Time. Time for a rethink and a stare at the magnolia... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,GHOST OF HUMPH Date: 20 Jun 09 - 05:33 AM Sorry, I was not paying attention to the last few moves, as I just noticed the delightful shade of Magnolia the skirting board has been painted. Do carry on! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 20 Jun 09 - 05:01 AM Will Can you challenge a challenge, without having a play in hand? Are we playing in Greenwich Mean time or Euston Standard time? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 20 Jun 09 - 04:38 AM You can't play St. John's Wood after midnight (Aprahamian Convention). Mornington Crescent still stands. (Can't make my own play at the moment...) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 20 Jun 09 - 03:20 AM Excellent move if it hadn't been for the fact that due to weekend works on the Underground, one cannot get from Swiss Cottage direct to Mornington Crescent. Hence the 14 minute walk to St John's Wood |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 19 Jun 09 - 06:20 PM Challenge! Will some Nerd offer a pretext.....go on, be creative! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 19 Jun 09 - 06:13 PM Ahem! It is with great pleasure and a sense of honour among such company, since we areon the Northern line after all. Ladies and Gentlemen. "Mornington Crescent" |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Paul Burke Date: 19 Jun 09 - 06:12 PM You're pullin' me plonker. Swiss Cottage, stitch that. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 19 Jun 09 - 05:15 PM Nothing left to offer at this juncture but Belsize Park. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: paula t Date: 19 Jun 09 - 02:38 PM Right then.......If that's the case..... Fairlop! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: David C. Carter Date: 19 Jun 09 - 01:05 PM Due to the wrong sort of leaves on the line at Arsenal,I was forced into a triple twirl sideways shunt at Brixton,in so doing I found myself cavorting along the perpendicular to Golders Green:Four Square on the Northern Line. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 19 Jun 09 - 12:08 PM Sorry (yet again) - cookie had to be reset. Tufnell Park was me. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Leadfingers Date: 19 Jun 09 - 11:29 AM Does Les Barker know about this ?? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 19 Jun 09 - 10:51 AM What travels to Bromley by Bow , an Arrow of course. So I'm off to 'Arrow on the Hill. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Burlington Bertie Date: 19 Jun 09 - 10:00 AM I've just had a banana, with Lady Diana, so........ Bromley by Bow That'll put you in a huff. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Kenneth Williams (aka CrazyEddie) Date: 19 Jun 09 - 08:19 AM Well, speaking as I was, on the subject of Cordwanglers, for sixty seconds withiout repetition, hesitation, deviation or(in my case) eeeeeeelongaaaaaytion, I appear to have entered entirely the wrong recording studio. I DO apologise for the interruption, but I would like to out that I've come all the way from Great Portland Street mate! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 19 Jun 09 - 08:19 AM By using the Fortinbras variation (a) I can just reach... Angel, Islington |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 19 Jun 09 - 07:35 AM Actually Liz, it puts you 'Round the Horne' Shadwell |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 19 Jun 09 - 04:16 AM Cordwangler's Passage That puts your king in check and me in Bedlam I think! LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 19 Jun 09 - 03:37 AM This is the 100th play, so I think I can uphold the challenge. Paternoster Square. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 18 Jun 09 - 09:09 PM I Challenge! We've already had "Tooting Bec" I was certain we were not allowing nadgering! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 18 Jun 09 - 08:35 PM Paul Burke said Balham... I nearly said Tooting Bec. Have Missed something, is there an unforseen danger? Oh blow it, faint heart never won fair lady.... Tooting Bec |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 18 Jun 09 - 08:01 PM Certainly! Especially if a move to Heathrow avoided it's mobius Loop by a flight to City airport! This calls for swift action else we shall not reach MC by Sunday. so using "Mortimers Shift" I call "Chorleywood" (A double diaginal lateral slip not a whiffle) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Folkiedave Date: 18 Jun 09 - 05:11 PM Can you use the 3rd quadrant when someone is in nip? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,easy rider Date: 18 Jun 09 - 04:30 PM As we seem to be in Helmlisches 3rd quadrant..... it has to be Piccadilly.. sorry about that... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Paul Burke Date: 18 Jun 09 - 03:02 PM Balham... I nearly said Tooting Bec. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Micca Date: 18 Jun 09 - 02:42 PM With Regret, I have to challenge Mr Red, WHICH Heathrow?, there are TWO underground stations at Heathrow. "Heathrow Terminal 123" and "Heathrow Terminal 4" leaving aside the stations that handle the Rail link to Paddington!!!! and while I am here North Woolwich |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 18 Jun 09 - 02:14 PM After consultation in the pub with other members of the "Five o'clock Club": Westbourne Grove Terrace. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: paula t Date: 18 Jun 09 - 12:24 PM Under the Johnson-Mayor rules for contests in times of industrial action, I say Piccadilly Circus. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Wapping Date: 18 Jun 09 - 12:06 PM Ratcliffe Highway |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: mandotim Date: 18 Jun 09 - 10:36 AM Leaving aside the complexities of the Blewitt Variation (1961) it should be possible to restore the importance of the Northern Line at this point; Morden! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 18 Jun 09 - 09:46 AM Invoking the old Devondhire Strike rule I knock thee, Pugh, to London Bridge, and claim Charing Cross ( getting close now). |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Bryn Pugh Date: 18 Jun 09 - 08:40 AM I shall huff you for not taking me. Embankment. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 18 Jun 09 - 08:04 AM OOh! A rare opportunity to invoke Lord Bridports gambit! Sloane Square |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Weegie Date: 18 Jun 09 - 07:43 AM Cessnock. Never forget the Clockwork Orange. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 18 Jun 09 - 06:38 AM Good try but... City Airport! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Mr Red Date: 18 Jun 09 - 06:27 AM Now just to block him - but I can't see why Will Fly hasn't landed Heathrow yet |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Bryn Pugh Date: 18 Jun 09 - 04:11 AM Tooting Bec |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 18 Jun 09 - 04:06 AM The score is still being calculated. Samantha had had to supervise the cleaning of the church where the organs were being polished. There were lots of candles used to light the scene, and Samantha has been asked to make sure that the young male cleaner gets all the grease and wax off. Meanwhile, I play Fulham Broadway, which I think is pretty good for 9am on a Thursday. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 18 Jun 09 - 01:41 AM Je suis pardon Ais avant eclu |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 18 Jun 09 - 01:16 AM I found this on http://www.mornington-crescent-rule.fsnet.co.uk/mornington-crescent-rules.htm Mornington Crescent - Origins The idea that the game has been played since 1567 is, I believe, untrue. As far as I know the game was developed and codified for I'm Sorry I Haven't a Clue (based on a simpler game devised by Barry Cryer and others) and only subsequently were similar or similar sounding pre-existing games (such as Tun Crescent) co-opted into a spurious lineage. The 'international incidents' ascribed to disputes arising from playing Mornington Crescent in the 19th century are nothing to do with Mornington Crescent. Many of these arose from the French game "Eclu" popular when duelling was all the rage. Some pundits have retrospectively renamed this game Mornington Crescent again to seek to substantiate the lineage. (Does anyone know the rules of Eclu? (Or how to show the accent on the E?)) What's the score so far and what will happen if I play a Hammersmith jink? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 17 Jun 09 - 08:25 PM I have some shocking news from Samantha who has returned from polishing Organs; apparently The darned French are trying to call a halt to all Games of "Mornigton Crescent" asserting that "Mornington Croissant" (the French version as you all know) predates and under EU conventions we must now play using the Paris Metro! I believe this is an outrageous act of French chauvinism and must be resisted at all costs. King's Cross! Aye Caramba! There are few choices here. "Old Street" is allowed from here under Baisingthwaite's 1937 precedent I believe. Or is this viewed as "Castleing out of Check" Gee you guys are good! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: paula t Date: 17 Jun 09 - 05:22 PM Oh, I forgot about that one. Got too confident then. Sooo....... I'll have a shot in the dark and play the Bethlehem variation. King's Cross?(Double score!) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 17 Jun 09 - 05:15 PM Great Western? That's a smooth move Paula, but the double back through Didcot Parkway may be a hazard. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: paula t Date: 17 Jun 09 - 05:04 PM The Silent One, Thanks for that. I had been searching for a clearer explanation of Mortimer's 2nd Variation. I now declare Parson's Green - Which should restrict many players to the Great Western Line. Sorry, but this competition is hotting up! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 17 Jun 09 - 04:59 PM Ecod, VT, Totteridge & Whetstone, eh? Blockbuster play there indeed! Nevertheless: Cricklewood Broadway. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: TheSilentOne Date: 17 Jun 09 - 04:24 PM == this is not a move == but a link: to a wonderful isihac site! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 17 Jun 09 - 03:58 PM I believe under Trumpington's Variations, I will play Totteridge & Whetstone. But only if one sleeps through all references to Haringey. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: paula t Date: 17 Jun 09 - 03:45 PM Only until 2.30 pm I'm afraid -(see Appendix a subsection 3c1 Brown's revised schedule for play in the Spring months). I'm therefore going to have to play Leicester Square. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: TheSilentOne Date: 17 Jun 09 - 02:46 PM Green Park (as it's the third Wednesday in June I think I can safely play that?) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 17 Jun 09 - 08:12 AM Ah, but you have overlooked the western lateral shunt... Knightsbridge! (can anyone exchange 5 black tokens for a podume of infinite darkness before we invoke the Dollis Hill loop?) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 17 Jun 09 - 05:43 AM (wicked laugh) we have them on the run Humph! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: mandotim Date: 17 Jun 09 - 04:16 AM If we are allowing Aldgate under 14th Edition, that leaves an opening for the classic East Acton reverse, but perhaps a more interesting and perhaps even definitive approach might be...Kilburn Park? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Bryn Pugh Date: 17 Jun 09 - 04:12 AM Earl's Court. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 17 Jun 09 - 03:56 AM Bugger! I was quoting the 14th edition rules from memory - just checked them and it looks as though Aldgate IS allowed after all. I shall have to withdraw Mornington Terrace (so close!) and yield gracefully, for the moment, to East Putney. Just shows you how experience can triumph over age... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 17 Jun 09 - 03:39 AM Nice one Will, but I'm challenging that (although it's one of the finest plays of Thurlow's Feint I've ever had the privilege to see). East Putney. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 17 Jun 09 - 03:28 AM Aldgate was expressly cited (in the 14th edition rule book) as a play that could only be made as a counter to Mothers' Square - and only as an emergency play, at that. The previous play was Silver Street, so it looks as though Aldgate is invalid. Sorry about that. I therefore play Mornington Terrace. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: mandotim Date: 17 Jun 09 - 03:27 AM A purely defensive move I think; Euston! That should keep things quiet for a bit. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 16 Jun 09 - 08:18 PM Thanks for letting me in Mo.......... argh, The excitement was too much for my poor late father. Guest Tuglet. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 16 Jun 09 - 05:07 PM phhhhhhht can't bluff me! Aldgate on the district. (Pray Goddess I can rebound off the buffers at Uxbridge) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: paula t Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:33 PM well I'm going to have to call your bluff and invoke the Tudor Court rules and say Silver Street. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:23 PM Oh yes.... going the same way as the 1930 international final which brought the game to its inevitable conclusion. It will be interesting if enough people remember the next 4 moves commonly known as the VE Day recovery. If not, can I claim the result in advance? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:13 PM I challenge TheSilentOne. Can't be Bethnal Green on the evidence that you can't even get your college right. I know you went to UCL not UCH. Euston Square is a more appropriate move. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: TheSilentOne Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:06 PM Well that forces Bethnal Green next. We've come full circle! (BTW Mitch the Bass I was at UCH 1969-72) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 16 Jun 09 - 03:36 PM Wood Lane, eh? That's a very slick play indeed! Only one possible answer to that - in desperation: Lime Grove. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 16 Jun 09 - 03:02 PM Then it gives me great pleasure.... As well as that for the first time since 1947 Wood Lane |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: mandotim Date: 16 Jun 09 - 01:07 PM Just a query; 14th edition rules; was that pre or post Docklands Light Railway, I forget. Anyway...Tufnell Park, but without the Platform 2 reverse. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: David C. Carter Date: 16 Jun 09 - 12:58 PM Code Napoleon! I'll go straight to Waterloo. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Sonsie Face Date: 16 Jun 09 - 12:49 PM Leave the haggis behind what? Gare D'Austerlitz BTW N'oubliez pas le tunel sous La Manche, mes amis. One can get out of Knid by playing under the Code Napoleon avec Madame Trellis |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 16 Jun 09 - 11:45 AM Oh, for heavens sake, now this is getting really silly! The whole Knid/reverse shunt controversy was settled years ago - and ruled as absolutely admissable. Just go ahead and do it! And, while we're at it - Battersea Bridge Road. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Phot Date: 16 Jun 09 - 11:42 AM I invoke the "Wrong line working by staff and ticket, weekend engineering works" rule........ Parlament Square!.....Change for the Jubilee line......... Wassail!! Chris |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 16 Jun 09 - 11:41 AM Humph, can to rule whether we are allowing reverse shunts out of Knid? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Bryn Pugh Date: 16 Jun 09 - 11:24 AM Guitaaress - Can't, shan't and won't - so there ! :-) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Bryn Pugh Date: 16 Jun 09 - 11:11 AM Tottenham Court Road. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,GHOST OF HUMPH Date: 16 Jun 09 - 10:46 AM She has been known to frequest unternet cafes down there. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 16 Jun 09 - 10:01 AM Oh, fat fatherless one, sorry I nearly forgot to mention. Scots are very welcome just so long as they bring some Crawfords fingers and leave their haggis behind. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 16 Jun 09 - 09:39 AM We're not playing with amateurs now Bryn. I'll cant my move (in deference to Mr. Red's superior knowledge): Theydon Bols. (Shame about Shoreditch - I thought I had it in the bag!) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Mitch the Bass Date: 16 Jun 09 - 09:37 AM I think thay Grenouille's play of Place de la Concorde was made under the misunderstanding that we were playing the French Game also known as Mornington Croissant. For some reason this game has turned up an inordinately large number of stations remeniscent of my days at University College (from 1969). Lived near Green Lanes, travelled daily to Euston, went to Goodge Street for Dingles Folk Club, moved to Kentish Town and oft went to Camden Town for CSH. Danced in Paternoster Square at St Pauls, went out with someone who lived near Holborn and then got a job in Cockfosters. In all that time I don't think I once used Mornington Crescent and certainly didn't venture south of the river in civilised hours. Mitch |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 16 Jun 09 - 09:01 AM Dang Bryn! I must protest! Northern line or not Goodge street stands and under Poincaire's Conjecture Camden Town is by passed! particularly when there is no market on! Recant or suffer mobius! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Bryn Pugh Date: 16 Jun 09 - 08:46 AM "Camden Town" - Mornington Crescent ! (Northern Line). |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: A Wandering Minstrel Date: 16 Jun 09 - 08:02 AM With reference to the Goosecreature amendments(1758) Parsons Green (in the library with the lead piping!) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Grenouille Date: 16 Jun 09 - 07:43 AM Place de la Concorde |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Mr_Red Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:45 AM Wrong, according to Poincaire's Conjecture the binomial being recursive you will just have to cant or suffer the inevitable mobius infinty. You may be some time. Meanwhile will someone post on the MC thread at the BBC just to shake them up. Has nobody tried? OK - I will. Camden Town? (closest for C# House) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:32 AM Liz - I think I have to refute that challenge. If I had approached using Wellard's Uncanted Oblique (Wellard vs O'Flynn et al, 1943) then I think your challenge would be upheld, but as I made my approach on the converse I assume it would be valid. Or am I wrong? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: mandotim Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:23 AM Another classical move, thanks to Sugarfoot Jack for the double diagonal to Shoreditch, which opens up so many possibilities. Bank! Tim |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 16 Jun 09 - 06:16 AM I challenge!!! Mrs Trellis lives in North Wales.... or am I completely mad now? LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 16 Jun 09 - 05:43 AM Shoreditch. Ha! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,CrazyEddie Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:54 AM At this point I must mention that dear Samantha who keeps the score has to leave early today, as she has been invited out for the evening by the church keyboards restoration society. She says she's really looking forward to polishing a few impressive organs. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Weegie Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:49 AM Cowcaddens |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Bryn Pugh Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:49 AM Kentish Town |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: fat B****rd Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:22 AM Does Stanislav preclude Scottish players? Morden, without a doubt. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST Date: 16 Jun 09 - 04:02 AM The Stanislav Convention has not been invoked yet - Goodge Street stands. I am, however, open to bribery - Mothers' Square is always a possibility... |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,GHOST OF HUMPH Date: 16 Jun 09 - 03:44 AM I have just received an email froma certain Mrs Trellis of South Wales who mentions that she has just had her personal computer repaired having biscuit crumbs removed from her CD drive after been told that to log in to Mudcat Forum she would need a cookie. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 16 Jun 09 - 03:04 AM Zukhovsky was never a part of stanislav that is a dirty rumour spread by bolshivik revolutionaries.! Anyway New Cross!! to Goldsmiths hmmmmmmmmmm Humph would be proud! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 15 Jun 09 - 10:00 PM Yhank you, I can nmake a nice classic move (New-Cross-Gate for Goldsmiths collage --- Goldsmiths Hall) St Pauls |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 15 Jun 09 - 08:21 PM Turnham Green!"!!! Blast, that means I am forced down to New Cross Gate! ( Don't tell me you didn't understand the implications of the Zukhovsky ammendement) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: guitaaress Date: 15 Jun 09 - 07:37 PM (ahem!)Turnham Green! and if someone invokes The "stanislav" convention, I shall have to challenge Goodge Street. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: vectis Date: 15 Jun 09 - 07:22 PM Hammersmith West (not quite a diagonal but closeish I grant you) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 15 Jun 09 - 07:04 PM I thought we weren't using Boyles Law.... LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Will Fly Date: 15 Jun 09 - 05:35 PM Let's cut the crap - Goodge Street. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST, topsie Date: 15 Jun 09 - 04:41 PM err ... Cockfosters? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 15 Jun 09 - 04:11 PM Since Barbican. LTS |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Paul Burke Cookieless Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:56 PM Since when did Mornington Crescent gave anything to do with tube stations? |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:49 PM I should have have challenged Mitch. I think the 14th edition falls after 1994 when Aldwych was closed permanently due to the following reasons. Terminus of Piccadilly line branch line from Holborn. Closed due to low passenger numbers and cost of replacing lifts |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Paul Burke Cookieless Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:48 PM Well if I can't have West Ealing under rule IX(b), I'll take Victoria. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: VirginiaTam Date: 15 Jun 09 - 03:34 PM Well as Stephen Fry is chairing, I think there is an "Elephant" and Castle in the game. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 15 Jun 09 - 01:21 PM Excellent standard of play already. Hmmmm . . . . Gants Hill (and before everyone starts on at me it is a legal move via Pinner) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Linda Kelly Date: 15 Jun 09 - 01:11 PM oh b*ll*cks Finchley Central! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Morticia Date: 15 Jun 09 - 01:03 PM It did rather, given Rule 7 subsection B, but perhaps you were intending to revoke later? Euston, I think you'll find, is the only option at this juncture. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Tug the Cox Date: 15 Jun 09 - 12:21 PM Only with a valid Oyster card, didnn't you get last month's update? Ongar ( bet that suprised you) |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: SPB-Cooperator Date: 15 Jun 09 - 11:36 AM Oh good - London Overground Inclusion Rules Harringey green Lanes |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: mandotim Date: 15 Jun 09 - 11:35 AM This would be a much easier move under the somewhat postmodern Lannigan rules, but... Goodge Street Tim |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: GUEST,Micca Date: 15 Jun 09 - 11:32 AM This should be interesting, Stephen Fry in the chair!! Oh and Gunnersbury.. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Wyrd Sister Date: 15 Jun 09 - 10:40 AM Hmm Sugarfoot Jack - precluding the Brighton Handicap eh? And so early in the game! |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Mitch the Bass Date: 15 Jun 09 - 10:30 AM As we are using 14th Edition, I believe that I can play... Aldwych Mitch |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 15 Jun 09 - 10:05 AM Nice one Mr. R! Tooting Bec. |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Mr Red Date: 15 Jun 09 - 09:21 AM Too easy - this should light-up the game Burnt Oak (not a nadger in sight). |
Subject: RE: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Liz the Squeak Date: 15 Jun 09 - 09:02 AM Dammit, I've misplaced the rule book... and it's been so very long.... Gospel Oak. Or not... LTS |
Subject: BS: Mornington Crescent June 2009 From: Stu Date: 15 Jun 09 - 08:55 AM It struck me that we could all do with something to take our minds off toughing MPs, whelk-eyed fascists and swine flu and we haven't had a game of Mornington Crescent for a while. As ISIHAC is back on tonight, let's have a bash! We'll play using Benn's Revised and Amended Rules (Fourteeth Edition), don't double-back on the diagonals and if we could avoid whiffling and nadgering on this first game it'll make it easier for all. I'll start: Bethnal Green (I know what you're thinking: A move reminiscent of Belvoir's Standard Opening, but trust me, it's not . . .) |