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CDRs. How reliable

Fred McCormick 20 Jun 09 - 04:30 AM
The Doctor 20 Jun 09 - 05:31 AM
Maryrrf 20 Jun 09 - 08:37 AM
Peace 20 Jun 09 - 02:47 PM
Peace 20 Jun 09 - 02:49 PM
dick greenhaus 20 Jun 09 - 04:19 PM
Gurney 20 Jun 09 - 05:07 PM
Ross Campbell 20 Jun 09 - 05:38 PM
Bernard 20 Jun 09 - 06:26 PM
GUEST,langtonian 21 Jun 09 - 05:46 AM
Don(Wyziwyg)T 21 Jun 09 - 06:52 AM
GUEST,PeterC 21 Jun 09 - 02:11 PM
GUEST,Langtonian 21 Jun 09 - 05:49 PM
Fred McCormick 23 Jun 09 - 02:12 PM
Jack Blandiver 23 Jun 09 - 04:11 PM
mattkeen 24 Jun 09 - 05:26 AM
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Subject: CDRs. How reliable ?
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 04:30 AM

A local jazz band has asked me to produce a CDR for sale to their own club members. Given the awful reputation which some CDRs have acquired for failing to work properly, I'm loathe to do it until I've located a reliable brand. Can anyone point me in the right direction ?

Many thanks.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: The Doctor
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 05:31 AM

I have now got through several hundred Datawrite Titanium CD-R 52x, with only the odd few duff discs. I've had no problems so far, and no-one I've given any to has come back with them. I buy them from SVP but no doubt you'll find them elsewhere.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: Maryrrf
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 08:37 AM

On a couple of other forums I frequent occasionally, the geneal opinion seems to be that the quality of all the major brands can vary considerably. Some suspect that all CDRs are manufactured by just a few companies.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 02:47 PM

Good article about it here, FYI.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: Peace
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 02:49 PM

If I may, I suggest the following. Let people know with the end product that you suggest they download the CD-R to their computer. That way, if the CD-R does get messed up, the customer will be able to download another copy.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 04:19 PM

Innaresting. Fivee years or so back, I encountered a couple of failures. Since then, I haven't encountered any.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: Gurney
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 05:07 PM

I've had four failures with TDK disks, which worked fine initially, but gradually deteriorated.
Wish I hadn't bought so many.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 05:38 PM

When I was trawling the recording forums a while back, Taiyo Yuden CD-rs always got good reports. I haven't used them myself (project delayed by circumstances). They're available in the UK from £16/£17 per 100 to £35/£36 per 100 (best quality) and other quantities up to 600.

For one-off duplication I've been using Imation discs and so far haven't had any problems. Morrisons used to sell them at 3x10 for £10 (jewel cases included).

Ross


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: Bernard
Date: 20 Jun 09 - 06:26 PM

I use Verbatim Super AZO. Bomb proof!


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: GUEST,langtonian
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 05:46 AM

Hi Fred

You know some of the things I've done with CDRs and over the years I've experienced trouble with most makes apart from Taiyo Yuden, but beware there are Taiyo Yuden and there are Taiyo Yuden - there are some fakes about. For all important stuff and CDs for other people (like the SC) I now use nothing else but Taiyo Yuden> If they're important to you or the folk your doing them for then I wouldn't use any else. 35p is a small price to pay for what is supposed to be archival quality - haven't lived a hundred years yet to check :-)

I buy mine from SVP (google it ) - they have a good delivery service and should you find anything wrong with anything they supply then they sort it out without a problem.

Bob Blair

PS If your really strapped financially then certain types of Datasafe aren't too bad. SVP carries users reviews of the discs they sell. Have a browse there.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 06:52 AM

Bottom line is:- For a serious recording, you get what you PAY for.

Cheap is not good......EVER!

Medium price IS good.....SOMETIMES!

Buy the absolute best your budget can stand, and check every copy on a good quality Hi-Fi.

From experience, there is NO other way, and even with the best you'll have rejects. You WILL have fewer of them though.

Don T.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: GUEST,PeterC
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 02:11 PM

I haven't had any trouble with them in my top loading machine at home but once a label is added you may find them unable to go into a front loading car CD player. As I primarily listen to CDs in the car this is a serious problem for me.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: GUEST,Langtonian
Date: 21 Jun 09 - 05:49 PM

Peter C makes a good point - "I haven't had any trouble with them in my top loading machine at home but once a label is added you may find them unable to go into a front loading car CD player. As I primarily listen to CDs in the car this is a serious problem for me."

There are a number of problems with putting sticking labels on CDs/DVDs. I would (and do) avoid completely.

I now have a printer which prints directly onto (printable) CDs. - and I would recommend you do this also.

Bob Blair


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 02:12 PM

Thanks for the comments folks. From the sound of it the best thing I can do is offer a lifetime guarantee to exchange any discs that do pack up.


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 23 Jun 09 - 04:11 PM

Whatever else you do, don't sell them as CDs...


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: mattkeen
Date: 24 Jun 09 - 05:26 AM

"When I was trawling the recording forums a while back, Taiyo Yuden CD-rs always got good reports."


Yup I have found these the best also - and that is the common wisdom with audio pros.
But generally CDR's seem to have gotten more reliable over the years


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Subject: RE: CDRs. How reliable
From: GUEST
Date: 25 Jun 09 - 09:51 AM

Adrian at Poppy Records gave me the name of an outfit selling CDR's and they claim 300 years for their's. The life is arrived at by testing at elevated temperatures and measuring the degredation at various temps. Then interpolating for typical room temperatures.

Either way - they will last the life of the Band and it's punters.

Unfortunately I have forgottten the name (London way I think) but their bulk prices were reasonable for a quality item. He uses them, and runs a record production business.


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