The re-Imagined Village

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 10:29 AM

Nic directed some TV commercials that I wrote in the early 1980s

Respect! Any on-line examples? There's a few classics on YouTube... One often hears of ex-prog musicianers doing music for adverts, with various former Soft Machine, Gentle Giant and (Lord Save Us!) Hatfield and the North members turning their talents to a less subtle form of market manipulation. I don't suppose...???

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: theleveller
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:44 AM

That brings to mind the Jenny Agutter swimming sequence in Nic Roeg's 'Walkabout'.

Nic directed some TV commercials that I wrote in the early 1980s but, unfortunately, Jenny Agutter did not feature in them.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 09:10 AM

Cue The Maid of Australia - my preferred version would be Bellamy & Swarb, which would make a fine theme song for Abby Winters!

One day as I walked by them Oxborough Banks
Where the maids of Australia they play their wild pranks,
Down by a green bush I sat down to read
While the birds they sang sweetly in the bushes and trees
In the forests of happy Australia,
In the forests of happy Australia,
Where the maidens are handsome and gay.

And as I sat viewing this beautiful scene
All the birds they sang sweetly and the trees they were green,
A pretty fair damsel before me appeared
To the banks of the river she swiftly drew near
This daughter of happy Australia,
This daughter of happy Australia,
Where the maidens are handsome and gay.

Well she stripped stark naked, before me she stood
Just as naked as Venus that rose from the flood,
She blushed with confusion and smiling said she,
"These are the clothing that nature gave me
On the day I was born in Australia."
On the day I was born in Australia,
Where the maidens are handsome and gay

Well she plunged in the stream without fear or dread,
Her delicate limbs she extended and spread,
Her hair hung in ringlets her colour was black,
"Sir, you shall see how I float on me back
In the streams of me native Australia."
In the streams of me happy Australia,
Where the maidens are handsome and gay.

But growing tired of swimming she drew to the brink,
"Oh assistance kind sir, I'm afraid I shall sink."
I flew to her aid and took hold of her hand,
Her feet they did slip she fell back on the sand,
And I entered the bush of Australia,
And I entered the bush of Australia,
Where the maidens are handsome and gay.

We kissed and we cuddled in the highest of glee,
The fairest Australia me eyes they did see,
Long time on her bosom me head I did hide,
'Til the sun in the West it began to decline,
Then I left this fair maid of Australia,
Then I left this fair maid of Australia,
Just as the sun went down.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 08:45 AM

She's an Australian pornographer who facilitates a website in which ordinary young women (as oppose to porn models) freely, openly and shamelessly celebrate their sexuality in a variety of ways either solo, or in duos and groups. In the masturbation videos a girl is alone with the video camera. In the annals of internet porn I believe her approach is quite unique - refreshing certainly, age & BMI restrictions notwithstanding...

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: theleveller
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 08:33 AM

Who is Abby Winters?

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 12 Aug 09 - 06:41 AM

Scenes from A Re-Imagined Village...

Mrs Dorchester tidies up the flowers on her husband's grave.

Mrs Dorchester's son Nigel downloads Abby Winters' masturbation videos to watch with his bi-sexual wife Fiona when she gets in from work.

Mrs Dorchester's grandson Neil relieves boredom of school holidays by shooting rabbits with his air rifle.

Mrs Dorchester's lover Harry is playing darts in the pub with his mate Billy, with whom Mrs Dorchester is also involved.

Billy's wife Mary lights a fag in back of the village shop and can't help but admire the elaborately obscene graffiti tag which wasn't there yesterday.

Mary's sister Janice is coming to the end of her daily two-hour housework routine.

Janice's husband Tom is out on his rounds, chuckling as he watches Mrs Dorchester's grandson through his binoculars.

Tom's mother Betty is wailing for a nurse.

Harry's wife Annie smiles pitifully at Mrs Dorchester as she passes her by in the cemetery.

Later, Annie places a single red rose on Mr Dorchester's grave.

Later still, Nigel receives a phone-call from Fiona and goes down the pub where he buys himself a pint and sits out by the canal watching as swans swim midst the weeping willows.

Later still, Neil goes down to the pub with a bag of rabbits for Billy and Mary. Billy slips him a fiver. Neil slinks off to watch Tom's daughter Kylie practising Fluffy Morris in the village hall.

Later still, Neil and Kylie cover the back wall of the village hall in the obscene graffiti images that cause a bit of a stir the following morning.

8.00am - Mrs Dorchester wonders who keeps leaving the single red rose on her husband's grave.

8.30am - Fiona tends to the needs of Tom's mother Betty in the nursing home, smiling to think of the fun she had last night whilst looking forward to watching the Abby Winters' masturbation videos after her shift.

9.00am - Nigel descends in stair-lift, and pushes himself into the kitchen where he listens to a Bob and Carole Pegg CD whilst making breakfast.

9.10am - He is joined by Neil and Kylie who, although a Fluffy Morris Dancer since the age of four, has never heard folk music before.

9.15am - Mary prepares the pastry whilst Billy skins and butchers the rabbits.

9.25am - Noel uploads mp3s of the Bob and Carole Pegg album onto Kylie's iPod.

11.43am - Harry pays a call on Mrs Dorchester.

12.10pm - Billy takes a rabbit pie round to Noel who is particular impressed by the decoration on the crust.

3.00pm - Kylie practices her dance moves whilst listening to Bob and Carole Pegg on her iPod.

3.02pm - Annie notices that the clock in the hall is five minutes fast.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Stu
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 07:24 AM

It sort of works to 'Dashing Away with the Smoothing Iron'. Makes it all quite jolly in fact.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 07:17 AM

"WAV - in that phrase 'will' is a noun, not a verb."...thanks Pip, et al!

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 06:44 AM

SOP, let us have a Latin Mass as well.

I'll give it a try, Ron - but it's a bugger to get the Latin Pater Noster to fit Butter and Cheese and All. Of course it can be done if you stress it in Plain Chant strophes thus:

Pater Noster, qui es in caelis, sanctificetur nomen tuum.
Adveniat regnum tuum. Fiat voluntas tua,
sicut in caelo et in terra.
Panem nostrum quotidianum
da nobis hodie, et dimitte nobis
debita nostra sicut et nos dimittimus
debitoribus nostris. Et ne nos inducas in tentationem,
sed libera nos a malo. Amen.

Like it! All I need now is to find some monks...

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: s&r
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 04:13 AM

Greek might be better Ron: WAV's misunderstanding of the English verb form used in the first section of the Lord's Prayer is not uncommon, and stems from unfamiliarity with the Greek 3rd person imperative (as used in 'Thy will be done')

It is often misunderstood; however there is a beautifully detailed explanation of it
here

It's a good justification of Greek and Latin studies in schools I think.

Stu

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Sailor Ron
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 03:54 AM

SOP, let us have a Latin Mass as well.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 11 Aug 09 - 03:01 AM

your "Polynesian" totem is actually from Canada (British Columbia). You might find the letters "BOMA CANADA" on the plinth

Absolutely right - and I bet if we go to the museums I mentioned we might find their totem poles aren't Polynesian either. My confusion arises from one of the models of Jew's Harp made by master Hungarian trump-smith Zoltan Szilagyi which he calls a Polynesian Totem. I see the word totem and I immediately add the Polynesian prefix!

Thanks S. - but if it's thy/your kingdom, then it's thine/yours will be done, yes?

Looks like you've made the same mistake with the Lord's Prayer as I used to make when I was eight. Look at Pip's last post and all should become clear. The trick is, if it looks wrong to you then the fault is more likely to be thine rather than the texts.

So it's Thy will - i.e. The Will of God - be done. Not Thy - i.e. God's Holy Purpose - will be done. If in doubt, a more modern translation might make things a little clearer (this one from The English Language Liturgical Consultation):

    Our Father in heaven,
       hallowed be your name,
       your kingdom come,
       your will be done,
            on earth as in heaven.

    Give us today our daily bread.
    Forgive us our sins
       as we forgive those who sin against us.
    Save us from the time of trial
       and deliver us from evil.

    For the kingdom, the power, and the glory are yours
       now and for ever. Amen.

The Doxology notwithstanding, this could also be sung to Butter and Cheese and All. Actually the Doxology could be sung to the the A phrase, which would make more sense in the the Roman Catholic Liturgy which treats the Doxology as separate from the rest of the Pater Noster thus:

All: Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil.

Priest: Deliver us, Lord, from every evil, and grant us peace in our day. In your mercy keep us free from sin and protect us from all anxiety as we wait in joyful hope for the coming of our Savior, Jesus Christ.

All: For the kingdom, the power, and the glory are yours, now and forever.

I think that would work a treat actually. I will begin work on my Butter and Cheese Folk Mass right away! So see you all at the re-imagined Village RC Church for Vigil Mass on Saturday evening.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 07:29 PM

WAV - I've done mine and everybody else's already; thine will be done when I get around to it - but don't hold your breath.

Ross

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Phil Edwards
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 05:22 PM

WAV - in that phrase 'will' is a noun, not a verb.

Thy: possessive pronoun, "belonging to you singular"
Will: noun, "what someone wants or wishes to happen"
Be: third person singular of the subjunctive mood of 'to be'
Done: past participle of 'to do'

"May what you want to happen be brought about".

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 05:14 PM

Thanks S. - but if it's thy/your kingdom, then it's thine/yours will be done, yes?

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 04:55 PM

S O'P - your "Polynesian" totem is actually from Canada (British Columbia). You might find the letters "BOMA CANADA" on the plinth. Here's one on eBay These coal-like carvings are resin copies of (usually) very detailed originals. Copies of soapstone originals of Inuit sculpture are also quite commonly found in flea-markets/car-boot sales. Though sold as tourist-trap souvenirs, some of them are quite beautiful.

For the village library (or the visiting library-van) I would suggest the following should be on the shelves -

The English Difference, Paul Jennings & John Gorham, Aurelia, 1974

"Anthology of articles and illustrations, affectionately chronicling the English character and way of life, edited by Jennings and Gorham. Other contributors include Michael Foreman and David Gentleman. Topics covered include travelling fairs, transport cafes, pantomime, brass bands, children's games, seaside towns, working men's clubs, the WI, allotments, pubs, heraldry, village fetes etc. Glossy colour illustrated boards." (Ripping Yarns review)

19 available at Abebooks (the above link takes you there) from £4 plus p&p - don't all rush at once!

Ross

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 03:19 PM

Our Father who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy name;
thy kingdom come; thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses -
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

You know, you could sing that to the tune of Butter and Cheese and All. You'd lose the repeat on the last line, but you could make up by repeating the last two lines.

Now, here's The re-Imagined Village Pater Noster Challenge - what other traditional folk melodies can you sing The Lord's Prayer to?

*

Billy Harrison was a great old cello player in the Yorkshire tradition; it's his tune (collected by Jim Eldon) that The Watersons sing While Shepherds Watched to.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 02:34 PM

"the first Mr Fox album was 1970."

Yeah, I was surprised when I read it - I assume that they recorded it before and only released it later.

As for cello players - there seems to be more about in folk these days, like Rachel McShane - and my 9-year old daughter.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 02:18 PM

Oh - thanks for that info TL; much appreciated, though obviously I gonked over Deniz - certainly sounds like her! Still can't be many cellos in folk music can there? My favourite was / is Ursula Smith who did some sublime things in the Third Ear Band (and played some demonic fiddle with them in a later incarnation) as well as COB. We once saw a girl from the Newcastle Folk Degree course doing a set as part of the Rising Stars / Kids from Fame nights at The Bridge maybe three or four years ago now who did some top stuff on cello too. I hope her star is still rising!

Back to matters Foxy - the first Mr Fox album was 1970. Just a thought as to the chronology, or rather the intent of He Came from the Mountains - or even And Now it is So Early...

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 01:29 PM

in the Lord's Prayer, shouldn't it be "Thine (rather than "Thy") will be done"..?..

Absolutely not!

(I hope to record it chanted, soon.)

Where Cliff failed, WAV will succeed...

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 01:01 PM

Before you do, The (Venerable) Leveller - in the Lord's Prayer, shouldn't it be "Thine (rather than "Thy") will be done"..?..(I hope to record it chanted, soon.)

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: theleveller
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 08:19 AM

OK, SOP, I have delved around in places thatcontain things that haven't seen the light of day for centuries and, like Beowulf, braved the dragon in my quest. The result? I've found my copy of He Came From the Mountains and here is the information you seek:

Bob Pegg - vocals, melodeon, whistle, guitar
Carole Pegg - vocalist, fiddle
Mike Lavelle - cello, flute
Nick Strutt - guitar, mandoline (sic)
Barry Lyons - bass guitar
Pete Wagstaff - drums
John Wyatt - flute (Rise Up Jock)
Andrew Massey - cello (Rise Up Jock)
Alan Eden - drums (Rise Up Jock)
Roger Knowles - guitar (Angeline)


Produced by Bill Leader
Recorded by Nic Kinsey at Livingston Studios

Recorded by Bob and Carole Pegg BEFORE they became Mr Fox (1971)

Right, going to have to venture back in there now to put it back before the dragon wakes and realises it's been taken.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 10 Aug 09 - 04:32 AM

And another thing...

Finally got round to listening to He Came from the Mountains and broke out in a cold sweat when track three came on. Not only Lord of the Dance, but the very same version of Lord of the Dance as played by one of our more folksy inclined teachers at school in 1972 when I was 10 or 11. Bloody hell! So I first heard Bob Pegg at school and hadn't even realised.

Anyone got musician details for the album? I suspect that's Claire Deniz on cello, as she also features on Bright Phoebus, though she's at her most glowing on the Strawbs' Dragonfly which has lately seen its first official appearance on CD...

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 09 Aug 09 - 04:43 AM

Flee Market held on the platforms Tynemouth Metro Station where I'll be wearing my stylised Triple Hare pendant as a talisman to aid me in the search for choice gew-gaws of folkloric significance...

And very nice it was too, blazing sunshine under the Victorian awnings and any amount of aforementioned gew-gaws of folkloric interest, including:

Brass Durham Cathedral Sanctuary Knocker Ashtray. Asking price (AP): £2.00 / Haggled down to (HDT) : £1.50 / Folkloric Significance (FS) : The Medieval Sanctuary Knocker of Durham Cathedral has long been the Face of Durham, one of the iconic constants and symbolic of the sanctuary once offered by the church to various wrongdoers. It is also a fine piece of Romanesque metal work which in my young day was the real thing, it situ, though its place has been taken by a faultless facsimile, the original now residing in the Cathedral museum, or treasury. Consequently the Durham Door Knocker has enjoyed a place in the region's folklore for several centuries (see my opening blurb Here for a personal reminiscence) and has inspired any amount of brass souvenirs most of them, unsurprisingly, in the form of door-knockers. I've seen Sanctuary Knocker horse brasses and toasting forks, but until yesterday I'd never seen an ashtray before, though it amuses me to think of it being bought in Durham Cathedral, circa 1930, when smoking was, I believe, compulsory for everyone over the age of eleven.

Dolmetsh Dolomite Descant Recorder. AP: £3.50 / HDT : £1.00 (on account of slightly chipped mouthpiece) / FS: Where does one begin? Within WAV-lore alone the Recorder enjoys near-iconic status as The English Flute, revived as a Folk Instrument mass produced in Japan in fetching black & white shiny plastic. Long before that however, Arnold Dolmetsch was seduced into mass-producing affordable descants for purposes of education which became the bane of any child suffering an English Education between 1950 and 1980 making sure that recorders would be despised in perpetuity and forever associated with the reeking corridors of crumbling Victorian secondary modern schools haunted by sadistic pedagogues whose joy it was to inflict such culture upon them. I'm speaking of working class kids here, many of whom would ceremonially smash their Dolmetsch Descants upon leaving school - I have seen this done. The early ones were made from Dolomite, a patented shit-brown bakelite which goes soft if left in the sun, but they have a fine tone and a lower register chiff to die for. I'm sure it was that legendary Dolmetsch Dolomite Descant chiff that inspired the distinctive playing of Terry Wincott of The Amazing Blondel - one of the few recorded players, IMHO, to provide us with a taste of how the recorder might have sounded as a folk instrument in Ye Days of Yore. Needless to say I was wandering around Tynemouth yesterday playing the opening riff from Saxon Lady until Rapunzel threatened me with divorce.

Green Man Garden Ornament. AP: £2.50 / HDT : - / FS : Where does one start? Since the craze for all things green, The Post-Modern Green Man has become iconic of a non-folkloric figure which is an entirely modern invention. I see this as part of an Inner Yearning of a Humanity Dispossessed of the Soil and the Seasons; a yearning for Nature, for the Source, despite the fact that the Green Man image we're familiar with today was developed within pre-Reformation Roman Catholicism as a warning very much against nature. Ironic, huh?? Anyway, this has propagated any amount of entirely bogus Green Man gew-gaws, oracle cards, t-shirts, jewellery etc. etc. which I do collect - but only if the price is right, and the workmanship acceptable. Most Neo-Green Man are works of fantasy, modern interpretations rather than facsimiles of original carvings - and whilst I obviously prefer the latter, I do have a few modern GM, and now this one, which is one of the finest I've ever seen at a price that I did not question.

In the Wake of the Plaque : The Black Death and the World it Made - Norman F. Cantor (2001) AP: 50p / HDT: - / FS : I bought this book if only for the fine reproduction of the Dance of Death woodcut that I used to illustrate my TOTENTANZ page some years ago, which is worth 50p of anyone's money. However upon perusing its pages in the local Subway I see Chapter One is called All Fall Down and would have us believe that the children of 1500 were singing Ring Around the Rosies, the origin of which, is, of course, the symptoms of the bubonic plaque. Strange to find this classic piece of fakelore perpetuated in an otherwise scholastic context. I will explore further as time allows.

Polynesian Totem Pole. AP - 25p / HDT: - / FS : A six-inch resin cast gew-gaw of the sort of thing that'll be familiar to any visitor of the Royal Museum in Edinburgh, The World Museum in Liverpool, and The Pitt Rivers Museum in Oxford. Not sure if its based on any actual prototype though, but it's a fetching piece that presently stands on my CD shelves alongside the various volumes of the VOTP CDs I've picked up in sales here and there over the years as I wouldn't pay full price for such things. One volume I even picked up at Tynemouth Flee Market! No such luck yesterday of course, but a happy day none the less.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Will Fly
Date: 08 Aug 09 - 05:43 PM

..but is the spelling of "lily" silly, Will?!

Well... I coughed and, being very thorough, startled a chough flying to perch on a bough by the side of a lough near the borough of Houghton...

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 08 Aug 09 - 04:32 PM

..but is the spelling of "lily" silly, Will?!

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 03:14 PM

Lookat MyFace is a bluddy yawnish bore.

Maybe so, but no more than what goes on at your local Folk Club / Singaround - plus there is a level of real, meaningful & productive networking in there. I've got a lot of very positive stuff out of it myself. And where in the world could you go to hear the amazing sounds of D B Lolaq?

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Will Fly
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 01:07 PM

"lily pond", I think [pedant that I am]. Don't forget the Old Gits in their corner, by the way - all pedantic to a fault.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 12:55 PM

...high-speed fibre-optic broad-band for the RIV?...the pub by the village green serves Sunday roast?...the village green itself serves the local frogs, toads and newts with a nice lilly pond?...and, of a Saturday, S. and the like, with a Flee/"gew-gaws" market..?

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 12:33 PM

Lookat MyFace is a bluddy yawnish bore.

All: "LOOK AT MEEEEE!!!",
or: "OH WE LURVE YOU...NOW LOOK AT MEEEEEEE!!!"

One of the main reasons I never bothered recreating an account myself.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 12:24 PM

so why the fuss, S?

No fuss, WAV just admiring the nerve really.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Will Fly
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 12:12 PM

An old mate once reported seeing Mr Fox when they were down to the duo of Mr & Mrs Pegg in the final throes of marital strife barely able to keep from tearing each other apart on stage. He said it was one of the finest gigs he'd ever seen...

Shades of Richard and Linda Thompson on tour in the USA - their duetting on "The Dimming Of The Day" still gets me tingling every time I hear it.

A "Flee Market" sounds something that buggered-up stockbrokers should do. :-)

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 12:04 PM

"Spam" (S)?...Yes, I still post an e.g. of my WalkaboutsVerse to myspace profiles (without any html), and allow others to do the same on my profile. Most are probably indifferent; occasionally, if you check my comments, I get thanks/requests for more; and, even more occasionally, someone, like you, lets me know they don't like it. And, as you must also know, many other comments on myspace are nothing more than "Thanks for the add" and suchlike; furthermore, it's quick and easy to delete any comments you don't want, anyway - so why the fuss, S?

Enjoy the Flee Market - next weekend is the Durham Gathering/Picnic by the way.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 06:52 AM

Yo, WAV - way to spam Bob Pegg's myspace page! Actually, most myspace comments these days tend to be spam so you're well in there, Bonny Lad! I still try and find something to say about the actual page I'm visiting rather than myself... You know - the personal touch rather than relentless spamming and self-promotion...

One day I went to the re-Imagined Village pub, a clog-dancer for to score;
I was gazing mellow at the willow-licked stream - when that lass she hit the floor!
My heart it lifted heavenward, her nimble clog-work for to see -
But more heavenly yet was the bounce of her chest,
So I reached for me Stottie and Mead and Chips and All,
Stottie and Mead and Chips and All!

Er - you want spam with that, WAV?

Meanwhile - off to Tyneside tomorrow for a family jaunt; hopefully we'll make it to the re-Imagined Village Flee Market held on the platforms Tynemouth Metro Station where I'll be wearing my stylised Triple Hare pendant as a talisman to aid me in the search for choice gew-gaws of folkloric significance...

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 04:56 AM

Burning my copy off as I write; I will listen to it over a late breakfast & subsequent domestic chores throughout the day. Thanks to my benefactor for the enlightenment.

An old mate once reported seeing Mr Fox when they were down to the duo of Mr & Mrs Pegg in the final throes of marital strife barely able to keep from tearing each other apart on stage. He said it was one of the finest gigs he'd ever seen...

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 07 Aug 09 - 04:29 AM

Thanks, Ross, for putting me onto those lyrics, and the precise work of Malcolm Douglas.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 09:52 PM

"He came from the mountain, and no-one saw him coming;
And some say he was walking, and some say he was running;
But I do believe (and I'm not known for lying)
That the only way that he could come was floating and flying."

Can't find the lyrics for this on the net. The album "He Came From the Mountain" isn't even mentioned on Bob Pegg's MySpace page .

For some reason (or none) this was going through my head a couple of weeks ago. The rest is in the record stacks somewhere.

You would also require Bob Pegg's calling-on song for the RIV Mummers' side:-

"Rise up, Jock and sing your song;
For the summer is short and the winter's long.
Then all join hands and form a chain
Till the leaves of springtime blooom again."

Original lyrics compared with DT version (Malcolm Douglas)

Ross

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: WalkaboutsVerse
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 12:42 PM

No thanks, CS - I've neither car nor piston to repair!..what I do have for the RIV collection, though, is a fine Fellside tape called Voices: English traditional Songs, wherein many of the well-known 80s folkies each chose one E. trad., and sung it unaccompanied.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 12:25 PM

What a snuggery this wee thread has become! No idea why Joe's tolerated the non-musical content, but I'm not complaining! I reckon mods aughta link it with Will's Old Gits Corner.

SO'P yeah, I saw that Picasso glass painting film many Moons ago, when on Beeb 2 (prolly as part of some early morning improving and charmingly wooden late Seventies/early Eighties O.U. scheduling).

So, old O.U. progs. I mean the ones everyone used to laugh at with beardy men and Beckett-like stark white sets O.U. Prog. (before the Beeb decided to really 'enlighten' us poor dumb proles with uber exciting CGI, and bland but earnest totty in sexy secretary suits.) Eh, WaV, you need to research those.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: theleveller
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 11:08 AM

"After Mr Fox broke up, and Pegg had recorded a rather forgettable
album with just Bob and Carole called He Came from the Mountains
(1971), the really good stuff started to appear."

Actually, although it's some time since I played it, I think it's rather good. It has never been released on CD.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 10:04 AM

Bob and Carole Pegg's He Came From the Mountains

Never heard that one. Any enlightenment in this respect would be most appreciated!

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: theleveller
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 08:35 AM

Well, if it's vinyl, I'll donate Pearls Before Swine's Balaklava, The Use of Ashes, and These Things Too; Bob and Carole Pegg's He Came From the Mountains; and the Topic sample, New Voices with the Waterson's first recordings.

Oh, and an Alex Campbell LP I bought for five bob on York station called, I think, Folk Session.

More albums may be forthcoming when I get a chance to look through them (early Johnny Winter, anyone?)

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 08:26 AM

the complete works of Mr Fox and Bob Pegg

Does that include Ancient Maps? A singular piece of work and no mistake; The Ship Builder likewise. Bones is something of a classic, of course - worth the price of the Keeper of the Fire anthology alone! Still, a fiver for two disks stuffed the gunwhales with complete classic Pegg albums (Bob Pegg & Nick Strutt / The Ship Builder / Ancient Maps) plus assorted rarities, Bones, demos, session, and a worthy booklet of notes and images...

Only in it for the money? Hell, aren't we all!

Here's a clip from Bones: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWOnJCxHnEA

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 07:57 AM

the village record library.

A while back I listen my top ten folk albums Here which got me in a spot of bother over Just Another Diamond Day, which was entirely ruined by the mobile phone commercial. Things like that truly belong in the shadows!

I would say this has to be vinyl only, in which case I donate my copy of I Wish There Was No Prisons by Jim Eldon, which didn't make my earlier Top Ten because I regard it more as an ethnomusicological document of a fine Traditional Singer than I do mere Revival Folk Product...

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: theleveller
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 07:52 AM

"and the complete works of Mr Fox and Bob Pegg, of course!"

Of course!

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 07:44 AM

Oh, and 500! (yah boo sucks, LF!)

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Spleen Cringe
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 07:42 AM

Pearls Before Swine's 'Balaklava' is definitely one for the village record library. Filed next to Forest's self titled debut and the follow up, "Full Circle" and Dr Strangely Strange's "Kip of the Serenes"... and the complete works of Mr Fox and Bob Pegg, of course!

Can we commission and exhibition by Lily Greenwood, too?

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: theleveller
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 07:12 AM

"Hieronymus Bosch is fabulous."

Funnily enough, I was playing Pearls Before Swine's 'Balaklava' earlier, which has The Triumph of Death as its cover illustration.

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Jack Blandiver
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 06:49 AM

Never took to Picasso myself for some reason.

What got me into Picasso was an old film of him painting on glass; not sure if this the same one (I was only ten or so when I saw it) but it's still pretty neat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CkRS3wDg1xU

Dig the organ music!

Otherwise, I'll see your Bosch and raise you a Brueghel, though that brings me back to Très Riches Heures du Duc de Berry by the Brothers Limbourg (1385 – 1416) which knocks the spots off them both. Try this:

August

Subject: RE: The re-Imagined Village
From: Crow Sister (off with the fairies)
Date: 06 Aug 09 - 06:32 AM

Chagall is one of my favourite artists too. Never took to Picasso myself for some reason. Ernst & De Chirico I like. Especially De Chirico. Hieronymus Bosch is fabulous.

But my favourite artist by a long straw, is Louise Bourgeois. Managed to miss the Spider at Tate Modern, but her cages and organic psycho-sexual sculptures are quite utterly compelling.