Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?

Subject: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 10 Jul 09 - 09:04 PM

Any locals got the scoop on what music might be happening at the Tall Ships events? Their site mentions that there will be Sea Music performances there, and the timings, but nothing about who or what exactly. Thanks

oh yeah, also does anyone know if there is any kind of interactive music going on, i.e. chanteys...even participatory demos aboard some vessels?

Gibb

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 09:15 AM

Gibb-

Everyone that I know who has tried to suggest traditional sea music for this event has received no encouragement from the sponsors.

No doubt there will be a brass band or two.

And just maybe there will be some parallel events. Try contacting the folks who coordinate the MIT sea music sessions on the 3rd Sunday of each month.

Grumble,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: GUEST,iancarterb
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 12:44 PM

Sounds as if the plaid pants guys have got ahold of that event.

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Barry Finn
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 02:54 PM

Hi Gibb, after 9 months of trying to get "Sail Boston" interested in putting on some music that related with the Tall Ships events & them putting me off the whole time, they called last week to ask if I could get a few people together to sing on 2 ships Saturday & Sunday so they could fund raise but there wasn't enough in there budget to pay anyone.
They sat on their asses, screwed the city of Boston the last time the Tall Ships were here, refused to compy with the Mayor request to help in the costs for police details, garbage clean up etc which I'm sure led to the lack of the "Parade Under Sail".
As far as singing goes, I know there were a few people who were going to try & visit the ships & as they roamed they were going to try to get some singing going but I don't don't know how that worked out, that was yesterday early evening. I do know that when I spoke to the Mayor's office of cultural affairs they were adament about "no busking" at the event (I believe that was due to the personalities strong envoved in running the event were in friction. Anyway, I had also for out that at the very last moment (just this past week) the City of Boston moved in to take control over the event, just so to make some of it happen.

Next time try the event in San Francisco, they, from all I heard did a wonderful job with running a spectacular event, sea music included, of course they planned ahead, way in advanced.

I was at the event yesterday morning from 10 to noon & went home, there was only ships that some you could veiw up close & some you could only veiw from afar as they weren't giving complete access to untill 5 pm & most you couldn't board until then. No, educational aspect, no cultural aspect & nothing musical except a concert that evening by who & of what no one could say

I hope to be able to attend tomorrow, hopefully, I won't be as disappointed as I was yesterday when the peirs were clear.

Barry

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Joe_F
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 11:14 PM

Barry: "I know there were a few people who were going to try..." It happened. A dozen MIT chantey singers traipsed around in great confusion and sang here & there. It was fun. Nobody complained.

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 11:18 PM

Thanks for the responses, guys. Incidentally, I headed out this morning before seeing them.

Sorry to hear about the struggle it has been to try to convince them to do something ....minimally...LIVELY at least. So I did go today, and I was disappointed.

First, the website promised "Sea Music" within a certain schedule, but I heard nothing of the sort. Just some sort or broadway musical Grease lightning b.s., and later some unidentified Latin music (which can be good, but frankly , we all know that cities just like to blast random salsa music at their events to give a "nice" background sound).

Second, like Barry was saying, "No, educational aspect, no cultural aspect..." I didnt get a sense of ANY kind of context, historical or otherwise. It was just like ships were there and a bizzillion tourists stumbling on them, "ooh, aah...take my picture in front of this shiny one." I figured because they are training ships...with training crews...we might see some operations going on, or learn about how they operate at least. Nothing.   Explanations of anything?-- well, one guy tried a little, but it wasn't interesting ("here's a deck, blah blah"). I don't think many people had any idea what they were looking at.

I'd have really liked to talk to some of the young crews, and hear about their experiences of, say.....how they got hooked up with it, what it was like to start learning at first, to go aloft and maybe conquer some fears, etc.... I don't blame them for probably mostly being out enjoying Boston, but I expect at least some to be around.

The biggest bummer was just waiting around in the lines to go on board. I only ended up having time and energy to go on two. The first line took around and hour and a half...winding around a crappy building in the sun. Sure could have used something lively going on along the path for that whole time. I can't complain that much about the length or wait because obviously there were so many people, but it only made it worse that 1) usually you had no clue what was at the end of the line; 2) the wait was mostly ridiculously dressed people trying to get up and down the gangways...can't be blamed too much if misanthropic feelings started to set it. Nothing a bit of song couldnt have cured, tho.

Gibb

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 11:20 PM

JOE,

Just saw your message. Sorry I missed it! (I was there probably from 1-7-ish I think, in lines most of that time.)   I hope nobody yelled, "Look, pirates!"

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 12:05 AM

WHoops, I just realized their website technically says "Seaport Music in the Park." Now, I don't know what "Seaport Music" is, but I was wrong to assume that meant maritime music.

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 01:50 PM

It's really hard not to get cynical about these tall-ships events.

The professional operators (assuming anyone is actually paid) who are responsible for organizing them should be drawn and quartered.

I wonder if Halifax will be any better next weekend.

Grumble,
Charley noble

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Barry Finn
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 02:09 PM

From all I've heard & seen over the yrs, it is the Boston event orginizers "Sail Boston" ika "Conventures" that has done a 'piss poor' job with the Tall Ships. Other cites have turne this event into a wonderous event. San Francisco's vent last yr should be an example. It's a shame that ASTA (the fleet's membership orginisation doesn't require more from it's Boston event handelers.

Barry

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Marc Bernier
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 02:13 PM

They had Sea Music in New London.

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: GUEST,MILITARY MOM
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 04:59 PM

Yes, I'm sure you all think your whining about how this or that did or didn't turn out, waiting in lines, things that didn't happen to your expectations, probably threw rude remarks at auxillary or veterans who tried to give yet another explanation to bored we-want-only-extreme yuppie'happenings' BS brain-dead left wing druggie sub-and non-culturalist deaf/dumb/blind followers.

Pull up some pictures on our kids in Iraq and Afghanistan being blown to bits, sleeping in holes in the ground with 80-lbs of equipment strapped to their bodies, no showers for one to two wks, their lives at risk every freaking moment of nearly freaking day, 15 to 20,000 miles from their loved ones.

THEN tell me how bad YOUR non-event was.

Grow the PH up. My son just left today. Like it or not: To provide you your privilege to live in -what's left of this country- to harpie your whining arses.

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: MartinRyan
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 05:52 PM

Relax... I hope your son makes it.

Regards

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Barry Finn
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 06:10 PM

Maybe your son was trying to free his own ass from you. I'd run, fly or shoot myself if I had to hear from you too. May he rest in peace from from your side MM.

Barry

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: stallion
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 06:19 PM

MMMMMMMM Military Mom you have my deepest sympathies in having to bear the worry, but maybe it might never have happened if some countries had behaved differently over the last few decades. Enough of that it is a seperate argument. This thread is about bringing all interested parties together to make a more rounded event, which apparently didn't happen

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: GUEST,iancarterb
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 08:19 PM

Charley, I'm thinking keelhauling would be more appropriate than drawing and quartering?

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 08:52 PM

Ian-

Indeed, much more appropriate but it would be wrong!

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: stallion
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:08 AM

Why what did i say!

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:23 AM

Stallion-

No, not keelhauling for you but for the organizers of the Tall Ships Events.

Or maybe at least cicumcision!

Cheerily,
Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: stallion
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 11:46 AM

Ah clarified, or, er, was that the butter (LUBRICATION MAYBE!)

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: SINSULL
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 12:10 PM

The tall ships will be in Portsmouth again this year. They do a wonderful job of providing shelter, music, context and a genuinely fun day. Hope the weather cooperates. Last year was a thunder and lightening fest which didn't prevent all from enjoying the light show and music from under cover.

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:25 PM

August 7 the Eagle will be in Portsmouth, NH, and hopefully something is being planned. I'm not aware of any other tall ships that are scheduled for Portsmouth.

Charley Noble

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: EBarnacle
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 12:58 PM

Verry high circumcision, perhaps.

This year is the quadricentenntial of Hendrik Hudson's Birthday. I was expecting to be on the committee for OpSail '09, representing the National Maritime Historical Society. Our wonderful Mayor Bloomberg refused to let the city of NY sponsor the event. As a result, we had a very small series of events with indigenous vessels and Mystic Whaler participating.

Considering that in 1909, they had a major event which could have been considered a precursor of OpSail, I am dreadfully disappointed.

Wothehell, we'll try again in 2109.

Subject: RE: Tall Ships Boston, 2009 - Music?
From: Charley Noble
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 03:04 PM

Eric-

'Tis said that Magellan was the first to circumcise the globe.

Sorry to hear that your good Mayor was unwilling to sponsor OpSail '09.

Charley Noble