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kendall 11 Jul 09 - 05:06 AM
Micca 11 Jul 09 - 09:14 AM
jacqui.c 11 Jul 09 - 02:25 PM
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Bobert 12 Jul 09 - 09:23 AM
Severn 12 Jul 09 - 01:29 PM
skarpi 12 Jul 09 - 01:32 PM
Amos 12 Jul 09 - 02:28 PM
beardedbruce 12 Jul 09 - 04:00 PM
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Subject: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 12:30 AM

Yippee! It's time to get down to the business of planning the program for the 2009 Folklore Society of Greater Washington Getaway! This year's Getaway will be October 2-5, at the West River Conference Center on the Chesapeake Bay, and you're all invited!

If you'd like more information about the Getaway, put "Getaway" into the filter box at the top of the Mudcat page, set the age for a year or two, and you'll get more than you can read in a month or so. Before long there will be additional information on the FSGW website (www.fsgw.org).

One of the cool things about the Getaway is that we really try to tailor each year's program to the interests and talents of those who will be attending. But we can't do that until we know who's coming and what they're interested in doing. The Program Committee -- Carly Gewirz (Mudcatter "Carly"), Lorraine Van Buren (Mudcatter "Lorraine"), long-time FSGW member and Getaway-goer Kathie Mack, and I -- have been working on a fine lineup of invited guests. So far we have confirmed Jon Bartlett & Rika Ruebsaat, Joy Bennett & Chris Koldewey, Pete the Spy, Ed Norman, Molly Andrews, and Steve Cormier, and we're working on a couple more. Now we're starting to put together lists of possible workshops, and we're ready for your input!

So, if you plan to come, please let us know that, and tell us what you would like to see on the program. Are there workshops you'd like to lead, co-lead, or attend? Workshops from previous years you'd like to see repeated (or not)? We're open to all suggestions, and although not all of them will end up on the final list (please do not assume that just because an idea's been discussed here, it will ipso facto be on the program...), we can assure you that all ideas will be given due consideration. You can post to this thread with your ideas, or PM any of us.

It would be a great help, by the way, if this thread could be reserved for program issues -- other Getaway topics should be posted elsewhere. Surely there will be a more general Getaway thread started soon -- or you could start one yourself! Anyhow, this one's for program, please.

The Getaway is all about participation, so start participating now!

Looking forward to seeing you all in October!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: My guru always said
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 04:42 AM

Really looking forward to it Nancy! Was going to suggest a MudGather, but I guess you guys don't need one as the whole weekend is one big Gather *grin*


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: kendall
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 05:06 AM

The Getaway is like a good marriage. When you have a good thing, dont mess with it.
I like whatever is presented there. We Taurus types lack imagination, you know.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Micca
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 09:14 AM

I have FINALLY got agreement for the time off to attend, so Nancy, I am happy to Run/assist/co-host "Parodies" ( as I have done in the past with several co-conspititors!) and or anything else you feel I can help with!! I Hope the songwriters showcase that ran several years now is included, Hearing how others came to write a song then hear the song is a highlight for me, If You need a co-ordinator put me down for that too
Micca


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: jacqui.c
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 02:25 PM

I'd love to co-host with Micca on a Parodies workshop.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 03:50 PM

I'd cast a resounding vote (more, if it's allowed) for a "Songs From The Shower" workshop. I know it won't be the same without Jonathon, but it's a topic that generates some fine music. And equally fine nostalgia.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 04:31 PM

I think one workshop that might be of interest is songs written in the last fifty years or so that have timeless qualities similar to the enduring folk songs of yesteryear. Modern singer-songwriters often produce really telling songs--I am thinking of Kate Wolf and John Prine and Chrsitina Lavin, for examples. But some modern songs have no lasting qualities, while others seem to be classic in their style--a couple of examples are "I remember Loving You", and "The Kind of Love You Never Recover From".

I'd be interested to hear what Folkies feel is really rich in recent lore.

On another facet, I have done enough Parodies to fill a several-hour show, so I am happy to contribute as many as are wanted in any formt. THey cover a wide range of topical and general situations ranging from lost puppies to naked men hanging on second-story drainpipes. Here is a partial list.

A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Susan of DT
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 04:46 PM

The ballad workshops have had subtopics recently, so how about either
(1) illegitimate children or else (2) stepfamilies?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: CET
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 06:06 PM

Charmion and I are planning to be there.

The parodies workshop would be fun, but I have misgivings about Micca and his "co-conspititors" ... maybe if I wear a raincoat and sit in the back row.

I had a lot of fun last year doing the workshop on gratuitous violence with Barry Finn. There's an endless supply of songs about crime and punishment, too.

Another idea that's been running around inside my head is a workshop on the kind of songs that, metaphorically speaking, hit you upside the head with a two by four, i.e. the first time you hear it, you can't rest until you've tracked down the lyrics and learned it yourself.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 07:55 PM

J'll be there, but my brain is in a persistent fog today and I can't think what to request. I'll think on't.

Claire


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Peter T.
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 08:03 PM

I can't be there this year (boo), but I was sort of itching for a "Songs of the Chesapeake" session last time (you've probably done that before, or maybe I missed it.....?).

yours,

Peter T.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 08:18 PM

I really like that last idea - though it may need to be expanded to allow more folks to participate. Maybe "Songs of Local Waters" and allow folks to define what is local for them?

Incidentally, I am thrilled to see Pete the Spy on the list. A lot of folks are in for a real treat!

Warmly,
Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Susan A-R
Date: 11 Jul 09 - 09:23 PM

I'd be willing to host some sort of instrumental jam, either slow jam, waltzes, or a genre jam, such as Irish or Quebecois or even a good old dance tune chestnuts circle. I realize that there are more singers than players. Another possibility might be (if we can find singing victims) a melody instrument back up workshop, to include things like, listening for chords and key, not treading on the singer's toes, simple rhythm tricks etc. I'm relatively new at this, but maybe some of us could team up.

Looking forward to being back after missing a year.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 09:23 AM

I have a gig on the 2nd so won't be there until Saturday the 3rd... I'd be willing to "facilitate" the blues workshop or do a mini-concert... I probably won't get there until noon...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 01:29 PM

Here's my annual collection of hare brained suggestions, or at least Part One. We'll see if any of this might float......




How about "Sailors Named Jack"? That shouldn't be enough to narrow the sea songs to any less than two hours......

I'd still like to hear a workshop of songs of the metal navies, WWII and beyond with maybe Barry Finn and/or Dick Greenhaus at the helm.....


Could any younger people in attendance younger twenties, teens and below be rounded up to sing more current playground songs, rhymes and parodies than the ones us older fogeys grew up with? This could be done seperately or in conjunction and contrast with the memories of their elders, maybe showing what's still around (like "Mine eyes have seen the glory of the burning of the school) and what's changed with the times and culture.......


Songs with known sheet music origins that worked their way into and sometimes collected from tradition. That might be up, say, Dottie Hurley's alley, with or without tin pans......


Since the Getaway can be classified as a retreat of sorts, maybe a workshop involving songs mentioning "Strategic Withdrawal" from Culloden Moor to St. Clair's Defeat to the Trail Of Tears to wherever wounds have been licked and tails were dragged between legs. Hey, a lot of what we do's all about "moving forward while looking backwards at the same time", right? While trying to learn from past mistakes and history, of course.......


"Wood If We Could"-Songs involving wood from the logging process to carving, fashioning tools and building with it. This one could be further divided up into splinter groups......


Or maybe just tools and implements in general, real or imagined,
the process of inventing them or them merely exisiting as speculation or dream of something we'd like to see built, or to build with.........


"Esprit de Corpse"-Songs dealing with cadavers, their movement, rowdy wakes, burial rites and maybe some "Unquiet Grave" and "Lowlands" type visitations or visits thrown in and Rosin the Beau/Ye Mariner's All" mere death wishes, to boot......


Songs about the ascent to Heaven or the descent into Hell or even doing the Limbo Rock in Purgatory, reading back issues of
People Magazines in the waiting room while waiting for decisions to be made and numbers to be called, This could be one workshop or two. If two are scheduled against each other, it would be interesting to see who comes to each and who hedge their bets by showing up at both.......



....Just some random thoughts. Maybe I random into the ground,
but maybe some of these 40% Brain Flakes will be worth raisin to the level of reality. As always, there may be more of the same.....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: skarpi
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 01:32 PM

hallo all , I am not sure if I can make this year ,
I only have job until 13 th of September :>) unless some one offer me a job in IKEA US , no just a joke . I made a promise to Dani , and
now I may not be able to keep that promise :>((

I have to see about this , we´ll know in time .
this money crisis here in Iceland is realy bad , we are nearly Bankrupt
nation :>( so it is not easy here at the moment .
we are goin same way as Argentina .

s o more later .

All the best Skarpi Iceland ( criseland )


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 02:28 PM

Well, seeing as its Dani, amigo, just let me know and I'm willing to struggle mightily to fill your shoes...



A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 04:00 PM

I'll offer to cover $10 of Skarpi's costs. Anybody else want to finance his vocal contributions?


Bruce 8-{E


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 04:24 PM

Don't MAKE me come over there and GET you, Skarpi....

I second the playground rhymes! Maybe we could get Azizi to come to do this, finally?!

Also second the "songs from the shower". The doo-wop last year was a real treat. folk, schmolk: sometimes it's great just to let loose and sing what feels great to sing!

How about a "there but for the grace of god" workshop where people bring a song that was their first introduction to the world of 'folk' and/or which changed the path of their musical lives?

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Susan of DT
Date: 12 Jul 09 - 09:16 PM

The Songs From the Shower workshops that I remember Jonathan leading were the playground songs, campsongs, girl scout songs, parodies, mentioned above, and NOT dowap.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: jacqui.c
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:09 AM

How about a workshop entitled 'Mans Inhumanity To Man'?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: MMario
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:32 AM

FUTZ!!!! I am committed to a wedding that weekend. My family dang well better stop planning stuff for getaway weekend!

yeesh!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:26 AM

Just to let you know I plan to be there, again, this year. I have no ideas about topics, but I am always willing to help out.

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:56 AM

I'd enjoy a workshop of genuine wrangler, roper, and cowhand songs.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:03 PM

Some good ideas here! Keep 'em coming!

Micca, glad to hear you'll be with us again! You too, Edmund -- we missed you last year! In fact, we'll be pleased to see everyone!

MMario, you really need to get your priorities straight -- or make sure your family has a pre-marked calendar blocking out certain times. Let 'em know NOW that you won't be available October 1-4, 2010! Sheesh!

Amos, there is certain to be at least one session of cowboy songs, as one of our special guests, Steve Cormier, is a former cowboy and oil rigger, and specializes in songs of that genre. Ed Norman, another of our special guests, also does a lot of cowboy songs.

As for the rest of the suggestions, we'll be considering them all, but won't have many firm decisions for some time yet. Keep those suggestions coming!

Oh, by the way, we just got word that West River expects the new dining hall to be ready for us! I'll believe that when I see it, but it does sound promising.

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Charley Noble
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:21 PM

Judy and I will be traveling for much of September to the Pacific Northwest. I really don't know if I'll have the energy to blast off as soon as we're back home.

I really like Severn's idea about "Songs of the Metal Navy" or expanding it to include songs of the Steam era Merchant Marine.

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 08:28 PM

Sadly I dont think I can get across this year , but if any one else does a Whistle Workshop , I hope some one can give me a FULL report !


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 09:15 PM

What Roger MEANT to say was that he'd like to lead the Songs About Food and Cooking workshop.

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Fortunato
Date: 13 Jul 09 - 10:06 PM

It seems to me we ought to have a "Remembering Johnny Collins Workshop". I would come and sing but I think Barry Finn or someone whose genre is closer to Johnny's might be better to lead it.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 07:36 AM

'cause there are some of us who come to the Getaway mostly to hear you sing "Breakfast Blues", Roger. Or mostly anything else : )

This may be bringing coals to Newcastle, but what about a Pete Seeger session?

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Zen
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 08:12 AM

I'm seriously thinking about coming across to this this year (I live in Scotland) and perhaps afterwards travelling on to visit my sister who lives in Chicago. I've watched so many of these Getaways come and go over the years and have always been sorry not to be there.

I'm mainly an instrumentalist (old-timey, Scottish, Irish, blues), less a singer though I try, and would join in anything along those lines if I can make it.

Any local help getting to and from airports would always be interesting!

Zen


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 10:50 AM

Zen...IF you decide to try it, book flight into BWI (Baltimore-Washington International) as 1st preference. Others are possible, but mostly not as convenient.


(Time to start another thread for this sort of non-program discussion)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 12:28 PM

Well, I've thought on't as promised, and there are two subjects I'd like to see covered some year or other:

1. Creepy songs (which could be ghost ballads, halloween material, Cthulhu anthems, whatever)

2. Regional vocal tricks (here I'm picturing sharing techniques for such diverse activities as Scandinavian kulning/cow calling; that vocal thing that Arab women do behind their hands to express appreciation for a good performance; hollering; the Basque Irintzi; maybe even just plain yodeling...).

As usual, I am not in a position to lead either but would certainly participate in both.

Cheers,
Claire


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 08:01 PM

I was afraid I was going to miss a large part of the Getaway due to a conflict with one of my association's annual board meetings. However, due to budget limitations, they decided I don't need to travel to this one. I tried hard not to look *too* happy when they told me, but...WOO-HOO! Silver linings in recessionary clouds, eh? 8-)

So anyway, I'm willing to host or co-host something. Parodies obviously (though it looks like you've got a pile of volunteers already). Of course I can do Humorous songs too.

Picking up on Amos's suggestion earlier in the thread, every couple of years there has been a "Modern Songs in the Tradition" workshop. I ran it one year (and could do so, or co-run it again). I usually toss in a James Keelaghan or Stan Rogers.

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 08:52 PM

How about "Beggars, Tramps and Bums?" A nice recession topic, and one that reaches across different traditions nicely.

Another idea that occurred to me was something along the lines of "Good Times" - songs to balance out all the hard times and troubles folks are going through.

I can't think of a title for it, but I've sometimes wondered about a workshop on "Songs That Have Been Sung To Death So Nobody Sings Them Anymore But In Fact They Are Great Songs So Let's Sing Them Anyway." (STHBSTDSNSTABIFTAGSSLSTA?) Needs a better title, methinks.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: ClaireBear
Date: 14 Jul 09 - 10:07 PM

"Gold Chestnuts," Dan.

C


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 15 Jul 09 - 07:00 AM

Or 'Treasure in the Attic;, Dan. 'Cause they get shelved by the folks who are sick of hearing them, then young 'folks' come along and want to dust them off.

Sometimes they are afraid of the wrath of the elders who think they are hackneyed! My daughter is dying to bring one out that a rock band recently covered : )

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Ron Davies
Date: 15 Jul 09 - 08:12 AM

Guests:   I sure hope Dwayne Thorpe is coming.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 15 Jul 09 - 12:57 PM

"Treasures in the Attic." That's nice. Almost as good as "STHBSTDSNSTABIFTAGSSLSTA."

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 15 Jul 09 - 12:58 PM

"(STHBSTDSNSTABIFTAGSSLSTA?)"

It was done at an Open Sing years ago as "Oh No, Not Again!" by Tom McHenry -(Padre)The thing is, in the Getaway group, it is hard to find songs that someone is not doing....

And last I heard, Dwayne Thorpe was 'likely'....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Roger in Baltimore
Date: 16 Jul 09 - 10:16 AM

Yeah, Dani, that's what I meant. Songs About Food and Cooking. Thanks for the compliments!

Roger in Baltimore


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 16 Jul 09 - 08:09 PM

I don't think it's so much that they aren't being done, but that sometimes someone would LIKE to sing something, and there are plenty of people who might (perhaps with good reason) roll their eyes, and that can be a little intimidating when you're dying to do a song!

If there's a workshop dedicated to such, people will know to avoid if they so desire : )

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 17 Jul 09 - 11:40 PM

Refresh! Come on, folks -- we need your IDEAS! There have been some good ones so far, but we need MORE!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 12:11 PM

Refresh


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: David Ingerson
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 07:56 PM

I've heard so many good things about the Getaway that I'm finally deciding to splurge and attend this year (from Portland, Oregon).

My specialty is Irish singing, both Anglo-Irish and Sean-nos. I didn't check out past years' programs, but I didn't see anything about Irish songs in the suggestions for this year. I could lead a workshop in the history and types of Irish singing traditions or in sean-nos singing, or possibly some other part of the former (rebel songs, emigrant songs, etc), but with the caliber of attendees, there might well be someone else more qualified than I am.

Or maybe even just a song circle of Irish songs.

Cheers,

David


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 20 Jul 09 - 11:33 PM

I was just going to suggest a workshop of Green and Orange songs. I'd definitely stop in for that!


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 02:43 AM

Hey, Nancy,


Some workshop suggestions (unused and recycled from last year):

"Hatred"----"One Sunday Morning", "Sam Hall", "I'm A Good Old Rebel", people, jobs, political institutions, nationalities or just the world in general. Vent with a passion!


"On The Lam"-Exiles, fugatives, outlaws, Foxes and Hares and just people running scared.

"Cities & Towns"-places you're proud of being from or merely glad you're far away from. People who belong there and sailors, travellers and bumpkins just passing through. Louisville, the hometown of Uncle Dave's heart to Jock Hawk In Glasgow-type first impressions.

Vile Fluids (Alchohol, poisons, medicines, potions, sewage, even Scottish waulking songs. Anything from "Cod Liver Oil" to the contents of Larry Marr's "Big Five Gallon Jar".

"Birds"-Hawks, chickens, ravens,cranes, goneys or linnets. From hungry vultures to bluebirds of happiness.

Disguises-Anything from "The Half Hitch" to "Claudy Banks" to "Queen Elenor's Confession" to "Sovay" to "The Handome Cabin Boy" Disguise is the limit!

"Diseases"-acne to pox to the common cold, from "slow condumption killing you by degrees' to "The Boogie Disease" (the doctor says you might get better, but you won't get well!, or even the Heebie Jeebies!


Just some ideas. See if any of this floats THIS year.....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 03:13 AM

Like, but not nescessarily confined to the Chinese calendar, We should pick an animal each year and make a workshop of it. Combinations, maybe. Mules and burros, marsupials, crows and ravens perhaps.....

Or garden vegatables-from Guy Clark's "Home Grown Tomatoes" to "Oh My God, Them Taters" to "The Young man who Wouldn't Hoe Corn" or maybe expand it to all crops and harvests,


"Law, De law, de law" (or "A Court Low")-Songs involving the legal and judiciary practice or practitioners and some folks who actually CAN complete a sentence.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: kendall
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 05:22 AM

How about a frailing banjo workshop, or a storytelling workshop? I'd be glad to lead the storytelling.

Ifthere is a fund to get Skarpi over here, let me know and I will gladly contribute.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 08:24 AM

Ditto re: Skarpi. Anyone want to put that together?

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: JedMarum
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 09:43 AM

I wish I could join you - bit it's not in the cards for 2009. I'll be thinking of you.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: MMario
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 10:10 AM

Add me into the "Get Skarpi to Getaway" donors.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 11:41 AM

That's not all we're doing, Leo. We're starting a "Pay MMario's Family to Stop Getting Married" fund. What is this, three years in a row?

Which brings me to the program idea - because this is a programming thread - "Songs from Absent Friends."

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 12:33 PM

Good idea, Dan. If some of, say, the Brits or the Alaskans don't make it, we can sing songs associated with them, and if needs be, can babble anything tunefully and pass it off as Icelandic,(I slander you not!) or one of us with Skarpi's CD can learn something phonetically.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: My guru always said
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 12:35 PM

How about 'As I walked out....'?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 12:53 PM

Or we could do roasting songs, created for the purpose. I volunteer to write the "Man of Emms" roasting song. It will have aurochs, arcane recipes, endless streams of second-hand sprats, and tatting in it.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 01:01 PM

Ah, Severn, you are about to discover the delights of Pete the Spy. I wouldn't put it past Pete to know several songs in Icelandic.

Speaking of which, any chance we could get them to let Pete do the cooking?

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Alaska Mike
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 01:55 PM

Tawmmie and I are finishing up our final year of working before retirement. Although we won't be able to attend in 2009, we are hoping to see you all again in 2010. It will be good to share a song or two and see what mischief can be had at that year's Getaway. So keep us in your thoughts and look for us to be there next year.

Mike


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 05:11 PM

Good to hear from you, Mike! It's been a long time! We will definitely look forward to seeing you in 2010!

Dan, as wonderful as it would be to have Pete do the cooking this year (or any year), it's not to be. The camp will not allow it. Not to mention the fact that Pete is coming as our invited guest, and we'd like to make sure he has a good, relaxing time, which would not be the case if he had to cook...

Some good ideas percolating here -- keep it up!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 05:29 PM

I knew that. Still, a man can dream....

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 05:55 PM

BEtter get back to your "steel gut-lining sit-ups" preparation routine, Dan...ya want to be ready for anything they throw atcha...



A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Jon Bartlett
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 06:13 PM

David Ingerson, it'll be a pleasure to hear you again!

Getaway, you're in for a treat if this man comes.
Jon Bartlett


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 06:52 PM

Looks like we're in for several treats...*grin*...I'll try to force myself to put up with them.

*thinking of ideas for workshops*


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Micca
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 07:08 PM

Amos re "Roasting song"
perhaps
" ... They ha' taen the Eel of Moray
and laid it on the grill..."


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 07:15 PM

Ach, Micca, according to my Granny it's manny a scruple maketh a Moré.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: kendall
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 07:16 PM

MICCA! that was awful!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: kendall
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 07:17 PM

Stick your hand in that crack and you won't get it back that's a Moray...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Micca
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 07:18 PM

Thank you Kendall praise indeed


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Micca
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 07:19 PM

" When an eel bites your thigh
and makes you want to cry
Thats a Moray!!"


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 10:39 PM

ummm..Nancy requested semi-politely that this thread be reserved for semi-programming related stuff.

Let's have another thread for Getaway related silliness other stuff.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 10:43 PM

... like this


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 21 Jul 09 - 11:52 PM

"Semi-politely"?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 22 Jul 09 - 12:15 AM

Hmmm - I wonder what workshop Bill's going to end up with this year....

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 22 Jul 09 - 03:44 PM

Icelandic Air from Reykjavik to Boston or JFK

Selected dates
Depart: Wednesday, September 30
Return: Wednesday, October 07
$452(Per passenger including taxes)

If I can manage it I will throw either money into kittie or maybe find something to put in auction.

Best of luck.

Mmmm! Would love to be home around autumn color time. Someday.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 22 Jul 09 - 03:47 PM

bloody hell! what I get for looking at 2 different threads at the same time.

The below was supposed to be in the Skarpi to Getaway thread.

Mud elf please delete!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Ron Davies
Date: 22 Jul 09 - 09:04 PM

I'd second the bid for doo-wop. We could have two workshops--one to debate if doo-wop is folk, and one to actually sing it.   I think I can guess which will be better attended.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 22 Jul 09 - 09:36 PM

I'm confident that whatever program the committee decides upon will be wonderful and will offer enough of interest to everyone that many of us will once again be moaning for a clone machine to be in two or three places at once.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Jul 09 - 09:38 PM

*grin*...'semi' meant "not vague & just hinted at", as in:

"It would be a great help, by the way, if this thread could be reserved for program issues -- other Getaway topics should be posted elsewhere. "

---------------------------------------

"do wop" and debate about it should obviously be done simultaneously...in August ...and in Terra del Fuego.

Bill likes about half of Severn's workshop ideas quite well. 'Birds' and 'disguises' especially.
Since it is something we deal with constantly, I also would like to see/hear a workshop on 'folk processing' with short (not the entire song nesessarily) examples. (This does not mean just 'versions', but the small changes that over time make a song better...or worse.)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GutBucketeer
Date: 22 Jul 09 - 11:36 PM

Ukulele Ukulele Ukulele


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 03:21 AM

To File and enforce an injunction against the Doo Wop workshops, would Bill D have to go through a Folk Process Server and the Folk Police Station to gain Doo Process? Or would Doo Process be better handled by a cosmotologist, if that would not be considered shear Barberism? And if so, will it be made permanent or can it be waived?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: kendall
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 05:19 AM

Doo op is folk? SNORT


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: VirginiaTam
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 05:55 AM

mixing folk and do-wop? It could happen. It has happened!

Greensleeves Do Wop

click on either lo fi or hi fi depending upon your ISP.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: My guru always said
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 08:12 AM

Did I neglect to request a hugging workshop?
Hil (who is totally confused by all the suggestions being merely a trad inger, but looking forward to the whole thing!!!)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 07:49 PM

I love Severn's idea for the "Vile Fluids" workshop!

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Ron Davies
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 08:17 PM

Tierra del Fuego--isn't that where guys who annoy women are sent to model bathing suits on billboards?


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 23 Jul 09 - 10:06 PM

Let me second Bill D and Nancy that this thread be reserved for issues quite directly related to program development and the banter, as well as all other communications, serious and otherwise, take place on the "other stuff" thread Bill started.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST
Date: 24 Jul 09 - 12:21 AM

I was thinking of a really short little workshop called "Traditional Songs Judy Cook Doesn't Know". Do we have two or three minutes in the schedule somewhere? I can't imagine that anybody would be able to fill more time than that.

Maybe you could have a fundraiser.

Anybody can put in $5. If the can sing a traditional song, stopping it at any point, and Judy can't sing the next line then they get their $5 back. If Judy can, which in my experience she always can, then the $5 goes to the Getaway scholarship fund.

Love to all of you.

-John


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 26 Jul 09 - 12:50 PM

Last year we had an instrument clinic - I'm not sure I was the ideal person to lead that (though Eric Cole was), but it was very useful to those who came, I think. And it gave us a chance to see Bill Day's most unusual contribution. Worth it just for that, I'd say.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: jacqui.c
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 04:48 AM

A memorial for Sandy Paton, please.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 10:29 AM

Somehow I doubt there's any question on that one, Jacqui. It saddens me that we now seem to have memorial workshops every year - but it would sadden me more for their music to go unheralded. And Sandy gave us a lot of music, not the least of which is your husband's.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 10:50 AM

How about a workshop on "train" songs???

If Roger wants to facilitate the blues workshop I'd be more than happy to facilitate a "trains" workshop just so long that the two are not at the same time...

If Roger doesn't want to facilitate the blues workshop I'm still in to do that... Or whatever???

Nothing on Friday 'cause I have a gig that night... Won't get there until noon Saturday...

Bobert


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 11:33 PM

I'm having sympathetic visions of the program committee trying to figure out who, what, when and where. Ya'll always do an excellent job, and I'm sure I'm not the only one thinking of how much your work and time is appreciated!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 15 Aug 09 - 11:45 PM

Well, maybe a workshop for Sandy and LaMarca as well, both the brightest of lights.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Genie
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 03:04 AM

Hey, guys, I wholeheartedly endorse the idea of taking David Ingerson up on his offer to do a workshop on Irish songs:

David: "My specialty is Irish singing, both Anglo-Irish and Sean-nos. I didn't check out past years' programs, but I didn't see anything about Irish songs in the suggestions for this year. I could lead a workshop in the history and types of Irish singing traditions or in sean-nos singing, or possibly some other part of the former (rebel songs, emigrant songs, etc), but with the caliber of attendees, there might well be someone else more qualified than I am.

Or maybe even just a song circle of Irish songs."

Whether it's just David leading it or he and a couple others, I think it's a great idea. David's started going across the pond every year for "research" (strictly business, o' course) and brings great stuff back to the song circles, etc., here in Portland. I'd say take advantage of him while you have the chance.

Genie


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: dick greenhaus
Date: 16 Aug 09 - 09:50 PM

While it hasn't drawn a particularly large crowd in the last couple of years, if people want it, I'll be happy to present my usual Roots of the Music Workshop.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Severn
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 07:16 PM

I still always enjoy it each year, Dick! It somehow always makes me want to buy a bunch of CDs, though......


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 17 Aug 09 - 08:37 PM

I second the idea about Mary, and maybe we could devote it to Kipling, and other loves of hers?

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 01:28 PM

At the risk of opening a can of worms, how about a Bluegrass and Oldtime Song Circle? Instead of an instrumental pick-a-thon, songs, especially songs with choruses, could be emphasized. I realize Bluegrass is akin to Rockabilly in some Folk circles, so if I am offending anyone, let me know.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 02:09 PM

"Bluegrass and Oldtime Song Circle?"

I'm for that..especially the 'old time' part. Older Bluegrass can be good too, but autoharpers don't do well in the fast, 'uptown' Rockabilly mode.

(If not on the actual schedule, something can always be started.)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 02:12 PM

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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 02:19 PM

I like the idea of the Judy Cook Trad Songs Workshop = IF I was going to be there I could probably find a few obscure English songs !


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 02:37 PM

Of course you're right, Bill. Banjos, mandos, and fiddles tend to crush the more finesse instruments like autoharps, dulcimers, etc. But I do think most sensitive players know when to drop down or drop out to let everyone have a voice. It would be nice to have some pickers too, but I think an emphasis on traditional tunes with vocals (say, as opposed to Fiddle Tunes or Newgrass styles) might let non-instrumentalists join in more comfortably. Songs like Dark Hollow, Amazing Grace, Wayfaring Stranger, and Jesse James are what I'm thinking of.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 02:55 PM

Wow! We've really got some great ideas going here! Thanks to all! We've got so many good ideas, in fact, that we have to declare a moratorium on program suggestions, as we have too much on the list already. We'll be working hard in the next couple of weeks trying to nail down exactly what to schedule, and will let you all know how it comes out. We won't be able to use ALL of the ideas put forth here -- or even all the ideas suggested by our Invited Guests, or those from non-Mudcatting FSGW members -- but we've considered them all, and will work it out somehow. I expect we'll manage to have a good time -- we generally do.

Thanks to all! More later ---

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 08:41 PM

Again, Nancy, thanks to all of you for the work that goes into the Getaway, and not just setting the program, tthough I imagine it s one of the more demanding tasks.

What ever it turns out to be, I can rest assured that most times I will want to be in 3 places at once -a "can't lose" situation, when you think about it.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 08:45 PM

Thread drift, except it is about posting my last message. Very Weird. Three times I hit the submit button. 3 times the screen refreshed but no post and this thread still down in the middle of the pack.

Had to reload the main forum page and copy the message.

Is this what you have been talking about Bill?    I've never had it happen successively like that before.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 18 Aug 09 - 10:27 PM

Yup...that's it. I did it 2-3 times in a row back when...before I figgered it out. It's like they used to think about mold...they didn't know exactly what caused it, but they learned that cooler temps could help.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Fortunato
Date: 19 Aug 09 - 07:25 AM

Thanks, Nancy.


Janie, you've got to hold your mouth right when you mash the button. (Hint, at no time can the tongue be exposed)

I'll just get my hat...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Gorgeous Gary
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 08:47 PM

Being a veteran of SF-convention planning myself, I know this is a dangerous question to ask, but...any updates on the schedule?

Just a quick list of workshops under consideration is really all I need. That way if I want to go off and learn anything new I can get working on it, and have a decent shot of getting it committed to memory. (In and around the other stuff I'm already working on.)

Thanks!

-- Gary


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 09:17 PM

Yeah, any updates???

I'd like time to wrangle if I gotta workshop or mini at the same time that KT or Kendall are doin' one elsewhere...

Might of fact, I don't even know fir sure if I have either a workshop or mini???

But, hey, I know that everyone is doin' the best they can...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 10:16 PM

Try to relax, folks -- we're working on it -- almost there -- won't be long now --


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 10:21 PM

I talked to a member of the the program committee yesterday...they are working steadily.

The problem with the Getaway...if you wanta call it a problem...is that we have way more talented & competent attendees than time slots to put 'em in. Same thing with the evening concerts.... everyone can't be on every time. Nice 'problem' to have, huh? *grin*

   The really nice thing is that everyone can listen to or play music of almost any type..(why, even 'trad folks' sometimes!) until they wear out.

See ya' all soon!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 10:22 PM

ha...Nancy beat me by 5 minutes...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: KT
Date: 06 Sep 09 - 11:45 PM

Many thanks to all of you who are doing the planning to make this such a wonderful gathering. I know it takes a TON of work to make it happen! I am so excited to see you all again, and I know whatever you put together is going to be FABULOUS! Can't wait!

KT


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 07 Sep 09 - 07:32 AM

Ahhhhhhh, hate to say this this late in the game but sho nuff be nice for KT to do a mini...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,KT not logged in
Date: 09 Sep 09 - 11:25 AM

Aw, I appreciate the sentiment, Bobert, but I did one last time - someone else's turn this year. But show nuff you and I could find a stretch somewhere where we could swap a few bluesy chick songs.

KT


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 09 Sep 09 - 06:37 PM

What, ya mean like "He Broke My Heart So I Busted His Jaw"??? Awwwwww, jus' funnin' wid ya, KT... I know plenty of bluesly chick songs...

(Name just one, Boberdz... Just one...)

Okay, how about, ahhhhhhhhhh, ah-hem... I'll have to get back to ya' on this one, KT... Ya' see, I know hunnerts of good bluesly chick songs so it's hard just pick one....

(Good thinkin', Boberdz... You screw up...)

Thanks...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 09 Sep 09 - 07:09 PM

Bluesy Chick Songs?

Woke up this morning when the chickens were crowing for dawn.
And on the right side of my pillow, I found my good man had gone.
On the pillow, he left a note,
"I'm sorry, Jane, you got my goat."
Now time to marry, no time for settling down...."


Bessy Smith, just for one example. She also did the female version of "Black Mountain Blues which declares:

Going back to Black Mountain with a razor and a gun
Gonna cut him if he stands still, lord,
I'm gonna shoot him if he runs.


There's no shortage if you know where to look.


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,KT not logged in
Date: 10 Sep 09 - 12:54 AM

Amos, you're good!!

And now, back to the previously scheduled thread topic - program planning....


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 10 Sep 09 - 07:59 PM

Notice she didn't say good at what, Amos... See, that's the way the womenz 'ill do ya'... They say somethin' that sounds all sweet and nice but then never get around to tellin' ya' the rest of the story until it suits them... So don't go gettin' no big head, buddy, 'cause the rest of the story is a'comin... Sho nuff is...

BTW, what rhymes with orange???

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 10 Sep 09 - 08:55 PM

Here comes prissy Momma to remind all that Nancy asked that this thread be limited to programming issues and that any other dialogue be posted to the other Getaway thread.


And don't forget to wash behind your ears!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,KT
Date: 10 Sep 09 - 10:12 PM

I tried, Janie!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 14 Sep 09 - 07:54 PM

Hey!!!
I went to the FSGW home page, went to the Getaway sign up, put in my info and how long I was wanting to stay, then it gave up the ghost before I got to activities, and before it asked me for any money.
?????


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 14 Sep 09 - 08:14 PM

Oops, nevermind. Operator error...


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Barry Finn
Date: 15 Sep 09 - 12:13 AM

Ok, I gotta stop biting my lip, it's beginning to hurt

Is the schedule about ready yet?

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 15 Sep 09 - 07:41 AM

I need to register... Where's the link to print a form and send in my money...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 15 Sep 09 - 04:46 PM

Bobert, here is the registration form. Or, you can go to www.fsgw.org, click on "Fall Getaway," scroll down below the price list, and register on line.

Barry, I know you're just bursting to see the schedule, and it will be along very soon. We've had a few 11th-hour problems with workshop leaders changing their plans (sound familiar?), but it's almost ready. Rest assured we'll announce it here when the magic moment arrives!

Meanwhile, just be content knowing the Getaway will be terrific, as always!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 15 Sep 09 - 04:50 PM

Gary and I will be holding a Parodies workshop--y'all come, now!!!



A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 07:54 PM

OK, folks! Here it is! Finally!

Sorry it's taken us so long to get this posted -- we've dealt with most of our last-minute problems (we hope!), and have only a couple of little things still hanging fire. The link takes you to Saturday's schedule, and there's a link at the top of that page that will take you to Sunday's. Once again, Dean has incorporated that nifty feature whereby you can place your cursor over a workshop and get a short descriptive blurb.

We'd really like NOT to make any more schedule changes, but of course it's always possible they may be necessary. If you are a workshop leader and we have you in two places at once, let us know and we'll change it. If you'd just like to BE in two (or more) places at once, well, join the club. Better too much than too little, right? And we still haven't found a leader for a cloning workshop...

Enjoy! And we'll see you at the Getaway!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 08:03 PM

WHOO HOO! Nice schedule, though you scheduled all these things I want to go to opposite each other. 'Course, that might be because I want to go to everything....

Thanks to the program committee for very fine work!

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 08:52 PM

Thank you, Nancy and all of the Program Committee!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 10:46 PM

I AM SO EXCITED!!!!

This is a fabulous schedule!

Hey, is that (are you) OUR Tim Wells, from NC?!

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 10:52 PM

Am wondering about that myself, Dani, tho' I tend to think it is not "our" Tim from Hillsborough.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 19 Sep 09 - 07:13 PM

Thanks for the kind words, folks!

Watch this space! Further changes pending! As of today, we've had yet another glitch, so changes will have to be made. As soon as we figure out what to do, we'll let you know.

As for Tim Wells, I really don't know much about him, other than that he IS from North Carolina. As for whether he's "your" Tim, I guess you'll just have to wait and find out!

More later...

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bobert
Date: 19 Sep 09 - 07:36 PM

For the record: Bob Harrison = Bobert...

Hey, ya'll... Fir those of you fortunate enough to attend Big Mick's "Labor Songs" workshop, please feel free to bring a "Train Song" over to my workshop afterwards... We'll still have a half an hour left which equals some purdy fine train songin'...

B~


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Barry Finn
Date: 20 Sep 09 - 12:35 AM

The pain has diappeared, thanks Nancy & All
Looks wonderfull

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: My guru always said
Date: 20 Sep 09 - 04:07 AM

Looks like there's been a lot of hard work going on, well done Nancy & the Crew!!!

The themes (workshops) and styles seem very different from the festivals we go to here in the UK, 26 so far this year & 3 more before Christmas! We're really looking forward to hugging, meeting & hearing everyone and hope that we'll each be able to find a song to match a workshop or two over the weekend!

Hil & Richard


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Fortunato
Date: 20 Sep 09 - 06:58 AM

Thanks, Nancy and all your team. Should be great fun.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: skarpi
Date: 20 Sep 09 - 05:49 PM

have fun all of you ,
all the best Skarpi


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 20 Sep 09 - 07:44 PM

Hil and Richard, I hope you find workshops you'd like to add some songs to, different as they are. One that I'm leading ("Beggars, Tramps and Bums") is specifically designed to include traditions from both sides of the pond. There's a rich vein of music and lore about bums, hobos, and tramps dating back to the Great Depression and further in the US, and there are wonderful English, Scottish and Irish songs about beggars as well. I'm really hoping we get examples of both. I think one of the neat things about the Getaway as it has evolved is that we get a mix of approaches and traditions. By organizing the workshops topically, there's a lot of variety in every hour.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 20 Sep 09 - 08:14 PM

Dan is right! And at this camp, the area is flat and venues are fairly close together, so running to do ½ of each workshop is possible.
(We have 'elements' of festivals...like the short concerts....and the late night singing in several locations. The UK folks who have been with us the last 7-8 years have adapted really quickly! )


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Barry Finn
Date: 21 Sep 09 - 12:40 AM

Bill, are you concerned about your "shorts"?

Hillary don't fret about matching a song or two over the weekend, you'll be quite full with singing before the 1st evenings over, by the 2nd evening you may be hoarse.

Barry


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: My guru always said
Date: 21 Sep 09 - 04:09 AM

Thanks Dan, Bill & Barry! I know that we're going to thoroughly enjoy the Getaway whether we can match songs or not & I'm so excited about coming along *huge grin* And with all that running around between workshops I might even lose a pound or two!!!

Hoarse Barry? I think I'll be hoarse after the first evening of our trip!! I have various remedies, mostly involving a flask!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 21 Sep 09 - 10:18 PM

As it turns out, it is "our Tim!"

We am in for a treat. Hope his lovely partner Susan is going to come also.

If you want a small taste of some of the music he and Susan are currently involved with, check out Red Rover on MySpace.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 22 Sep 09 - 12:36 AM

Well, right after the Bobert Blues n Floozies Hip-shakin Extravaganza, I will be leading a Bluegrass and Old Time jam and song circle. We can use guitar players, fiddlers, mandolinites, and banjoists, as well as dulcimer players, bassists and anyone who is interested in singing out strongly.
I want to emphasize old style Bluegrass (think Little Maggie, Jessie James, Dark Hollow, Wabash Cannonball), Old Timey Tunes (like Willow Garden, Will the Circle be Unbroken, Poor Wayfaring Stranger), Stanley and Carter Family Tunes (Katy Daley, East Virginia Blues, High on a Mountain) and stick mainly to the songs of the tradition, not so much the fiddle tunes. Especially songs with choruses we can all join in on. We'll end with Will the Circle Be Unbroken.
Hope to see a lot o' y'all!!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 22 Sep 09 - 01:32 AM

Dang, LEJ!! I'll be there!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Charmion
Date: 22 Sep 09 - 09:20 AM

Ooooh, sounds like fun. I'm not sure whether I'll be a guitar player or a mandolinite.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Amos
Date: 22 Sep 09 - 09:35 AM

Hell, if yer tired, pull up some floor and be mandolinoleum!


A


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 22 Sep 09 - 11:16 AM

"guitar players, fiddlers, mandolinites, and banjoists, as well as dulcimer players, bassists"

and this is when? A scheduled event or special event? And why...*snffff*... are you excluding autoharp players?

(well, it's been known to happen...at Winfield, I'm told, some of the hot-shot groups would quickly tune up a half step if an autoharp appeared...)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Lonesome EJ
Date: 22 Sep 09 - 11:22 AM

How could I have forgotten to mention autoharps, Bill? Autoharps are indeed welcome. Of course, there's always the possibility of a banjo consuming it. They are voracious creatures after all.


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Guest Kim
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 10:53 AM

Any word on this years program schedule?
Thanks,
Kim


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 11:00 AM

scroll back up to this posting:


Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King - PM
Date: 18 Sep 09 - 07:54 PM

OK, folks! Here it is! Finally!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: maeve
Date: 28 Sep 09 - 11:09 AM

The schedule for fortunate folks who can attend

maeve


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: beardedbruce
Date: 29 Sep 09 - 05:54 AM

(always subject to change)


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 01 Oct 09 - 07:41 PM

Many last-minute changes this year! Too many, in fact. Several folks we'd counted on and looked forward to seeing won't be able to make it after all, but in spite of that, I'm pretty sure we'll have a good time -- we always do!

So check out the latest version of the schedule, and come prepared to have a great weekend! See you there!

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Leadfingers
Date: 01 Oct 09 - 08:30 PM

Mutter Mutter Mutter ! No Whistle Workshop !! Mutter Mutter !!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: GUEST,Dani
Date: 01 Oct 09 - 10:13 PM

FSGW folks, is it too late to add someone? I've emailed Dean, but if you know of a better way to proceed, please let me know.

Dani


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Bill D
Date: 01 Oct 09 - 10:21 PM

It can 'usually' be managed...as long as there is space. I don't think we'd turn down a single person who showed up... I hope Dean gets the mail


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Janie
Date: 01 Oct 09 - 11:11 PM

Thanks for update, Nancy - it is obvious you fine folks are working hard right up until "showtime."

See you tomorrow night!


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Subject: RE: Getaway 2009 Program Planning
From: Nancy King
Date: 01 Oct 09 - 11:41 PM

You want us to have a whistle workshop without YOU, Terry? Sheesh!


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