BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 05:07 PM

I still wanna know how his knees are.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Smokey.
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 05:18 PM

"It wasn't 'til I saw the top of 'er 'ead that I recognised 'er." (the late Tony Capstick)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 05:24 PM

The BNP do encourage that sort of thing then? *LOL*

Olivia Beak (Ms)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Smokey.
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 05:28 PM

Everyone needs a hobby, and they probably need the extra protein.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 06:39 PM

"The first messages were posted on Sunday, with a poster calling himself Ismaeel writing: "Man, they really are dropping like flies over there.[]"

Well, Sammie, maybe he's a shit stirrer just like you. Multiple identities, multiple names.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 06:39 PM

In fact, I wouldn't put it past a 'person' like you do do just that.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 20 Aug 09 - 08:38 PM

The bars open late tonight?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: GUEST,GUEST:CSG
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 06:40 AM

So, when is D-Day in Luton? According to the pro-BNP sites it's 15th, but that's been and gone... Thanks a lot!

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 06:42 AM

I've just recieved some very important news. The Home Secretary has intervened and banned the Luton anti-Islamic march from going ahead. What's more, any similar demonstrations are banned in Luton for the next three months.

This is wonderful news. It is a victory for toleance and common sense, and for the realisation that veerybody in this country is entitled to protection under the law, irrespective of their skin colour, religiuous persuasion or anything else the far right might feel like knocking out of us. We are not going tolet these Fascist thugs take over our streets.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 09:49 AM

Well, well, well, where IS Master James now, with his yapping poodles of rascism, hatred and intolerance about his feet?

It is indeed a victory for common sense and we can only hope that there are more decisions like this in the future. We must not let down our guard though, we should be campaigning with a focus on getting this scum banned from the streets of Luton and other places, for good, yes, yes, I know this makes me sound like a dictator, but as far as I'm concerned, the good of the many far over-rides the racist needs of the BNP and their lackies.

Stand and Be Counted

Olivia Beak (Ms)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Stringsinger
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 11:16 AM

The reason that the BNP is here is that people are reactive and not proactive.

British value systems are based on democratic ideals. The British outlawed slavery when the US endorsed it for example.

Yes, Britain has a history of imperialist designs on other countries but the Brits have
shown some common sense by quitting India and futile policies.

Darwin was British. Marx lived in Britain. Some of the finest educated minds in the world come from Britain. Oxford is considered to be one of the finest
universities in the world.

I believe that the British working class is better educated than in America.

There is much that Britain can be proud of without the lies of the BNP.

The best protest is to encourage the important heritage of the British people such as
free-thinking, accepting of cultural diversity (yes they do and always have done in Britain) and why not? It makes Britain a model for democracy.

The BNP is like the crazy Republican protesters in the States. They are cut from the same cloth and both intend to destroy their respective countries.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: GUEST,Sam
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 12:13 PM

Two people have been charged under the Data Protection Act after a British National Party membership list was leaked onto the internet.

A 27-year-old man and a woman, aged 30, are due to appear at Nottingham Magistrates' Court on September 1.

Publishing this list breaches human rights and data protection laws, so why has Bruce Murdoch been allowed to post it on mudcat ?

Dyfed-Powys Police said it is a criminal offences under the Data Protection Act to publish this list, and confirmed two people have been charged with Section 55 Data Protection Act offences.

I have passed on to the police the post on here in which "peace" published the list on mudcat cafe.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Fred McCormick
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 12:38 PM

Hey cool. I gotta get a load of this. Where has Peace managed to post a list of 13,000 names and addresses on Mudcat?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 12:46 PM

This nasty piece of work will hide behind human rights when it suits him, just like the rest of the BNP scum and yet will deny those same rights to others simply because of the colour of their skin, the religious or ethnic backgrounds.

It seems to me that Sam or whatever name he/she/it chooses to use, is getting desperate and will use any means possible to discredit and silemce the voices fairness.

By the way, nice cut and paste job from the Daily Telegraph sunshine!

It's worth being charged with offences to drag the nastiness that is the BNP kicking and screaming into the light of day, so, for me, this no threat. Have the courage of your convictions.

Stand and be Counted!

Olivia Beak (Ms)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 12:51 PM

Speaking of investigatios, our dear Sam or whatever name he/she/it is currently using, failed to let us know about:

An investigation has been launched after two immigration staff were found to be

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jeri
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 01:18 PM

Sam, thanks for offering the opportunity to share this list. I didn't see Peace posting the whole list, but it's all over the internet. In fact, if you right click on a link for the list and select 'save as', you can have your very own copy.

The problem with this stuff is that once it gets out, it's OUT. Sam's objection proves those who operate from the shadows, whether they're opportunistic GUESTS here or fascist terrorists elsewhere, don't much like the light.

http://wikileaks.org/leak/bnp-membership-list.txt.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 01:39 PM

Many thanks Sam old bean, I just made quite a few copies of the list and e-mailed them to people I think should have them, let's see now, that's a fair amount of people in several countries who now stand to be prosecuted

The barn door is open and the horse is loooooonnnngggg gone

Stand and be Counted!

Olivia Beak Ms)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: The Barden of England
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 01:51 PM

The idiot GUEST - Sam is probably trying to bring up the fact that when he/she/it goaded Peace, well then Peace mentioned a Christian name and a single letter that may, or may not, be the first one from a surname. Good on you Peace, and I don't somehow see the Police turning up on your door.
In the meantime GUEST - Sam, what a complete turd you are, trying to hide behind a law, that you yourself would happily ignore (as your precious BNP does in it's banning of certain groups joining), so whinge all you like - it'll get you absolutely nowhere. By the way brave Guest - Sam, I always sign off with my name - how brave are you??
John Barden

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 01:56 PM

"By the way brave Guest - Sam, I always sign off with my name - how brave are you??"
- The Barden of England
You're right John, let's REALLY show this prat what it's all about...come on Sam, there's a lad(?) you can do it.......

Stand and Be Counted

Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms)
aka Olivia Beak (Ms)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 02:40 PM

""Self-righteousness must be such a wonderful thing,""


Righteous = Anagram of THIS ROGUE.

Don T.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: GUEST,Sam
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 03:07 PM

A Muslim who randomly slashed a white man in Manningham, telling him that the town belonged to Muslims and that whites were to be kicked out, was not charged with any racially aggravated assault but merely with wounding with intent.

Although Amir Rehman, 18, shouted racial abuse at 51-year-old Ronald O'Connor, telling him that "Manningham belongs to Muslims. We don't want whites. We rule Bradford. We are going to get you out," he was not charged under sections 28-32 and 82 of the Crime and Disorder Act which specifically deals with racist violence and harassment.

There can be no doubt that had the perpetrator been a white British person, he or she would have been charged under the racially aggravated legislation. It is therefore increasingly clear that the anti-racist violence law is only used against whites.

As it is, the court case only made local news in the Bradford and Argus Telegraph, with a minor follow-up story in the national Telegraph, but so far the vicious anti-white attack has been deliberately ignored by the rest of the controlled media.

Mr O'Connor tried to flee the racist attacker by running into a shop, but Rehman ran up and stabbed him twice in the upper arm with a four- to five-inch bladed knife.

The Leeds court heard that Rehman, of Lumb Lane, Manningham, was described as if in a frenzy, "like a crazy man, out of control," as he tried to slash Mr O'Connor's face. The palms of Mr O'Connor's hands were slashed as he tried to defend himself.

Prosecutor Richard Gioserano said: "Rehman was swinging at him over and over again with the knife. Mr O'Connor was in great pain and in fear, literally, of his life."

Mr O'Connor had surgery at Bradford Royal Infirmary for a deep laceration to his palm. He also suffered lacerations to his fingers and two incisions to his upper arm with apparent nerve damage.

Within hours of appearing at court for a preliminary hearing of the case in March, Rehman went to Pudsey with two other Muslims, Amar Farooq and Tanveer Hussain, where they committed a series of robberies on children on their way home from school.

The judge, Recorder David Bradshaw, told Rehman he had committed an unprovoked attack on an innocent man causing "horrendous" injuries.

He said: "I am satisfied it was accompanied by racial abuse and seemed to have a racial motive."

* It has also been reported that Walter Chamberlain, the D-Day veteran attacked by Muslims in Oldham in 2001, has passed away from old age. Mr Chamberlain, who was 76 years old at the time of the famous incident, was walking through the Westwood district of Oldham when three Muslims demanded to know his address. He refused to tell them and was pushed to the ground and left bleeding with broken cheekbones. According to local reports, one of the attackers said: "This is our area. Get out."

Mr Chamberlain said one of his assailants told him that he was "not allowed in this part of town because he was white."

Mr Chamberlain took part in the D-Day landings with the Royal Navy. He was later a bus conductor in Oldham for 34 years. The attack was one of four racially motivated incidents in Oldham on that weekend, and played an important role in generating support for the British National Party in that town in the subsequent local elections.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 03:27 PM

Your credibility is zero Sam or whatever you call yourself.

The shoe is on the other foot now, it's all very well and good for the likes of you to hurl racial abuse and physical abuse at non whites, but when they turn around and do the same thing back, all of a sudden it's not fair. You hypocrite, run along...go on, scat!

As I've stated at least twice before, who's worse.....

Stand and Be Counted!

Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms)
aka Olivia Beak (Ms)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: The Barden of England
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 04:12 PM

Still afriad to say who you are then GUEST - Sam. What a snivelling, lying racist toad you are. You don't even have the courage of your very dubious convictions - although I'm sure you do have convictions - criminal hopefully.
John Barden

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: GUEST,Sam
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 04:18 PM

You are right John, Amir Rehman is clearly a very unhappy young man who like many others wakes up in the morning, looks in the mirror and wishes he were white. He perpetrates such crimes because he is twisted with bitterness, resentfulness and rage being totally ashamed of his lot in life. He will continue to inflict his misery on the indigenous population untill he kills someone and is then caged for life. Well no amount of counseling can help people like this so I think the best course of action is deportation to a country where they fit in. I have observed that most animals are happier and thrive in their natural environment so this animal would be much better off airlifted to the top of the Himalayas with no shoes and dropped there wearing a parachute from a great height if one is available.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 04:25 PM

Ever the coward, isn't he, John, still refuses to reveal who he is and still playing the divide and conquer game, the man (and I use the term loosely)is racist, probably anti semetic and homophobic. I love to see him try and deport me, me being not white and all that...that thought really does bring a smile to my face.....
I'm ever the optimist.

Stand and be Counted!

Charlotte Robertson

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: The Barden of England
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 04:28 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: GUEST,Sam - PM
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 04:18 PM

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: GUEST,Sam - PM
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 04:18 PM

You are right John

What - about you being 'afraid to say who you are', or that you're 'a snivelling, lying racist toad', or that 'You don't even have the courage of your very dubious convictions - although I'm sure you do have convictions - criminal hopefully.'?

Glad we cleared that up and that you agreed with me.
John Barden

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Jamming With Ollie Beak (inactive)
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 05:12 PM

I thought that one of the qualifications for membership in the BNP was that you have to have a criminal record, what with the large number of members who appear to have one. *LOL*

I was just leaving..

Charlotte Olivia Robertson (Ms)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: GUEST,Sam
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 06:30 PM

How nice. Detectives investigating a disturbance at a parade for soldiers returning home from Iraq have charged seven people with public order offences. Skip related content

Anti-war protests erupted as soldiers from the 2nd Battalion The Royal Anglian Regiment paraded through Luton town centre on March 10.

Seven people from Luton will appear at the town's magistrates' court on September 16 charged with public order offences.

They are Jalal Ahmed, 21, of Cavendish Road, Yousaf Bashir, 29, of Dane Road, Ibrahim Anderson, 32, of Warwick Road West, Jubair Ahmed, 19, of Beech Road, Ziaur Rahman, 33, of Nunnery Lane, Shajjadar Choudhury, 30, of Essex Close and Munim Abdul, 28, of Highbury Road.

Police also charged 12 other people in connection with another disturbance in Luton town centre on May 24.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: jeddy
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 06:46 PM

SO WHAT IS YOUR' POINT 'SAM'?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Smokey.
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 06:50 PM

Join the army Sam.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: jeddy
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 06:54 PM

sorry, not sure what happened there.

have you just realised what it must feel like to be the victim or racism?

i see you have made the usual animal reference, well glad you manged to get to that one, but i am afraid you might have run out of steam and need a rest.

i am not sure these facts exsist because he gives no link or reference to where his info comes from.

however, if they are correct, they are no more acceptable than white supremcy.

d we want our cities to become like northern ireland? no go streets for certain people?.....NO!!! and that is what we are trying to stop from both sides!!!!!

i will say one thing for you 'sam' you are very entertaining.
thanks for cheering me up when i am having a thick day, because you make me look highly intelligent.

take care all

jade x x x x

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 10:41 PM

"Peace", that's me, did NOT post the list on Mudcat or for that matter anywhere else. Sam, you are indeed a fuckhead. However, anyone looking for the list can view it and copy it at Wikileaks. The thing is still there.

Sam, you are a hollow shell of anything resembling a man.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 10:48 PM

Oops. I see Jeri posted a link to it. Thanks, Jeri.

"Sam", what a horse's ass you are you racist sonuvabitch.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 10:51 PM

I tripped over the list one day when I googled

BNP, wikileaks




So, Sam, howzat?

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 10:59 PM

Anyway, if the police DO get in touch I will gladly tell them about the attacks on me (and others from Mudcat) that occurred on Facebook AND Youtube, and no doubt they will be very interested in that. You fucked up, Sam. Pass that on to your 'friends'. Asshole.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 11:04 PM

And, "Sam", I will then be able to get your real name. Have a nice sleep.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 11:36 PM

View from the Canadian side of Mt Rushmore. Pick one Sammie.

And kiss it!

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 21 Aug 09 - 11:53 PM

Bad link there. Try this.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 12:01 AM

A friend tells me the link does not work. It was four men knelt over with their rear ends sticking up. Clad I might add. Loses something in the translation.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Owen Woodson
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 05:30 AM

So Sam, or should that be Son of Sam, is off to his local cop shop to report Peace for publishing the BNP list. While he's there perhaps he could mention Redwatch. That's the one Sam. Redwatch. The site which publishes names, adresses and photographs of left wingers and anti-fascists and incites skinhead thugs to go along and beat them up.

While you're there, perhaps you could mention the BNP lowlife who published the list in the first place. What a way for someone to rat on their mates, just because they fell out with the leadership. Must have been someone pretty close to the top as well. After all, they wouldn't let out the private details of every member on their books to anyone else would they.

But that's the BNP for you. Rotten to the core and very very nasty.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: SPB-Cooperator
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 05:41 AM

Hopefully this will be the last thing I have to say.

(1) A criminal is a criminal irrespective of race, colour, gender, relgion, sexial orientation. A criminal act is a criminal act whoever carries it out, and racism is a criminal act.

What your head is too small to get round, Sam, is that criminal acts are carried out from all walks of life, and are treated accordingly. Because one Muslim may carry out an attack it does not make all Muslims attackers, and everyone with at least one brain cell can work that out for themselves - otherwise you have to say that because of Copeland all white people are nail bombers. Any intellegent person would instantly see the 'doublespeak' - a tool used by all fascists, i.e. blame the community for the actions of individuals. Do you really want a reoccurance of incidents like Lidice (committed Neo-Nazis probably would want to refer to it as Liditz). I know you won't look it up as it the history does not fit in with the BNP line.

The point, and I know you are too stupid to get it because your superiors in BNP told you so, is that the BNP as a party aims to legitimise illegal actions and actively promote race hate, and by and large they are organised thugs, who are no different to playground bullies who want tot impose their vile hatred on those who are different to them, and then start sniveling when decent people stand up to them.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Steve Howlett
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 12:48 PM

Peace, try this link.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: jeddy
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 01:42 PM

LOL :0) x x x x x x

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 03:45 PM

Many thanks to you, Steve.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 03:49 PM

This is the American view. Steve posted the Canadian view. Thanks again.

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: curmudgeon
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 03:52 PM

But in the Canadian view, Washington and Jefferson are wearing the wrong kind of trousers!

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 03:56 PM

LOL

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Don(Wyziwyg)T
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 04:08 PM

""Well no amount of counseling can help people like this so I think the best course of action is deportation to a country where they fit in. I have observed that most animals are happier and thrive in their natural environment so this animal would be much better off airlifted to the top of the Himalayas with no shoes and dropped there wearing a parachute from a great height if one is available.""


While you are at the police station Sam, you might like to report the racist arsehole who posted the above incitement to racist hatred.

But you can't really, because it's you ARSEHOLE!

Don T

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Smokey.
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 04:29 PM

I'm afraid I just couldn't take the "no shoes" bit seriously, and "from a great height if one is available" is pure tripe.

Monty Python eat yer heart out. :-)

Subject: RE: BS: Anti BNP Protests - Luton
From: Peace
Date: 22 Aug 09 - 04:33 PM

"the top of the Himalayas with no shoes"

Mountains need shoes?

I don't get it.