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Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)

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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: Art Thieme
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 11:33 PM

Good people,
I just spent the last 3 hours writing out my involvement with Folk Legacy and Sandy and Caroline and Lee happened. It was 50 years long and it was grand to see it put there for you all. But (isn't there always a but?) Mudcat was apparently down or something for the hour in which I was trying to send it to this thread. It felt wonderful to say it all and the tell how much I love these people and what their querencia meant to me through the years. Finding Folk Legacy and knowing Sandy was so damn much a huge part of what I am today; it was truly like coming home to have Sandy ask me to record for him.
I did try to post it, pull it back, post it over and over--and then--------it was gone -- into cyberspace somewhere.

Just know I loved this man, and miss him terribly.   

Love to all,

Art


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 11:26 PM

Spaw, thanks for posting both of those. I remember reading your piece when you first posted it. I *missed* Jeri's piece! Takes the breath away, absolutely stunning. Thanks, again, for posting it.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: Liam's Brother
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 09:15 PM

Goodbye old friend.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: catspaw49
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 09:13 PM

Hey Beebs......regarding that hole in your life/heart.........

When Lee died I sent Sandy a PM where I told a quick story about that very thing. Sandy liked it and actually quoted it at Lee's memorial service.   Here's what I wrote to Sandy way back then.............

When Denny (my truest friend of 30 years) died awhile back, I spoke at his funeral as he had asked me to do. The SOB was such a "responsible" person that he even left me a "Thank You" note for doing so. Basically, I told stories on us for 20 minutes and had the large crowd laughing and not crying. The only serious part of it came from something one of Connie's kids had said to me. He asked what is what like to lose your best friend, and then said I must have an "awful big hole in my heart." I thought about that a minute and realized he was wrong. Great friends can never leave a hole in your heart; they can only leave it filled with the wonderful memories of who and what they were. Indeed, perhaps our hearts are made up entirely of friendships and who WE are is simply the end product of those we value most. I dunno.......

And I still don't know for sure. But I do know the Sandy Paton's of this world would never want to leave a hole in the lives and hearts of those friends they have themselves cherished. And then there is this.....written by wonderful Jeri after Rick died. Somehow it fits well here too.............

There are circles of friends,
Held loosely by lines I drew,
But in the winds of time they fade.
Here is where my passion ends,
I did all I could do,
But these circles of friends
Are the greatest thing I made

See me in their eyes.



Pat


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: bbc
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 08:31 PM

He *was* a great man, Kendall; I agree. It seems that he, so often, went out of his way to help or encourage others. Maybe he saw that quality in Rick Fielding because it was so true of him, too. Tonight, Caroline & I toasted Sandy over our shared dinner. "To Sandy," I said, "an original, in the best sense of the word!" His passing leaves a big hole in my life. I suspect I won't know how big until some time passes.

Caroline is doing quite well, all considered, but she's having a really hard time getting anything done, because of the continuous phone calls. She'd take about one bite of her dinner & the phone would ring again. Those of you who know her will realize that she is too gracious to cut a call short. Please give her a few days to catch up on much-needed work, if you can. Call her after the dust settles. I know that calls will be welcome & needed then!

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: kendall
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 08:04 PM

Sandy never knew that he was a great man. He was so humble he could not accept that title. I tried to get through to him, but failed.
Anyway, he was not only a great man, he was also a good man.

Neither he nor I are very religious, but this has always given me some comfort:

So live, that when your summons comes to join that innumerable caravan
That moves to that mysterious realm where each shall take his chamber in the silent halls of death; thou go, not like the quarry slave at night, scourged to his dungeon, but sustained and soothed by an unfaltering trust, approach thy grave like one who wraps the draperies of his couch about him and lies down to pleasant dreams.(William Cullen Bryant)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: Hawker
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 07:36 PM

So VERY sorry to hear this, only knew him though this community, but like has been quoted, what a fine community, and he was one who made it so. Love to ALL his family. Hugs, Lucy x


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 07:34 PM

So sorry to learn this. I was talking about Sandy just last Saturday, with Jan and Ken at Scarborough Seafest. Never met the man , but felt I knew him from his work and from his postings here. A great loss. Condolences to all his family and friends.

Ross


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: GUEST,hg
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 07:14 PM

Although I never met the Paton's, they touched me when Sandy took the time to share his knowledge of "Horsey Keep Your Tail Up" many years ago when I came to the mudcat to share my musical interests with others. He treated all with equanimity and kindness. My sincere condolences to Caroline and I shall cherish my many, many Feolk Legacy records all the more. Lisa Null's words seem so expressive; thanks for that!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (22 January 1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: GUEST,jed marum on a borrowed PC
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 07:12 PM

Very sad news. My condolences to his family.

Jed Marum (on a borrowed PC)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: GUEST,Dick Dufresne
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 06:52 PM

Sandy and Caroline and my family go back to the days of the Fox Hollow Festival.
Through the years Sandy and I traded songs, stories and jokes.
It was Sandy who brought me from the world of the folk music of the commercial craze to the broader and more amazing world of folk music in it's purer form.
   We will try to keep up your good work old friend.

When our time is over
Haul away for heaven
Tis our sailing time.

Fair winds and a following sea.
Dick Dufresne


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: GUEST,Stringsinger
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 06:40 PM

Like the rest of you, I am devastated by this news. Fifty years ago
at the Old Town School of Folk Music, Sandy, Valucha and I were a
folk trio for a short time. I remember Sandy as ebullient,
knowledgeable and dedicated to our mutual love of trad folk.
He was always gracious, warm and fun to be with. My heart goes out
to Caroline. I remember that Sandy and I both performed on the same bill at an Old Town School concert. Although I haven't seen him in many years, I remember our times fondly. We last met at the Eisteddfod song festival at one of the workshops in 1983 summer.

It's a tremendous loss to the folk community. Folk Legacy Recordings
are some of the best ever done.

In sadness,

Frank Hamilton


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 06:39 PM

Lizzie, thank you for posting that link. It was a treat to hear Sandy and the family sing.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: Joe Offer
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 06:27 PM

I checked Mudcat last night just before I went to bed, and I found this thread about an hour after it started. I was shocked and saddened at the time, and it was hard to get to sleep. Since then, though, I've been thinking happy thoughts of Sandy. I met him when I was 51 years old, and he has always called me "lad." Thinking of that makes me smile.

Since I heard of Sandy's death, two songs have been going through my head. One is Put It on the Ground, which is the first and only song Sandy and I ever sang as a duet - sitting at a picnic table at the Getaway in 1999, about fifteen minutes after I first met him in person. There may be an obvious reason why we never sang as a duet after that, but we sure had fun singing it.
    Put it on the ground,
    Spread it all around;
    Rake it with a hoe,
    It will make your flowers grow.

The second song is All the Good People. It was written by Ken Hicks, but Sandy sang it solo on one of the Golden Ring records, and Folk-Legacy holds the copyright. I've loved that song since I first heard it:
    This is a song for all the good people,
    All the good people who've touched up my life.
    This is a song for all the good people,
    People I'm thanking my stars for tonight.
It's not a perfect song. It has a bit of chauvinism and some clumsy lyrics - but it's full of love and wisdom. Sandy wasn't a perfect man - but he, too, was full of love and wisdom. I'll remember him every time I sing those two songs.
Thank you, Sandy, for all the wisdom and kindness you have shared with all of us.

-Joe Offer-


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: C. Ham
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 06:24 PM

I didn't really know Sandy Paton but I did have a long conversation with him about music a few years ago at the Champlain Valley Folk Festival

Mike Regenstreif blogged about Sandy a little while ago.

Mike's blog.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: GUEST,Jan and Ken
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 06:22 PM

From the other side of the pond - Sandy and Caroline were very special people and we are totally devastated at the news - so soon after Kaelan's death - we would give anything to be able to give Caroline a big hug, but instead send our love and grateful thanks to them both for the inspiration and help they gave us.Along with others at the Seafest we were talking of Sandy with Debra, Ken and Barry.

A true gentleman

Goodnight and God bless


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: GUEST,Guest David Jones
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 06:09 PM

I heard this heartbreaking news while here in England. As I read these messages, many from old friends, Roy, Kendall, Art, George, Kathy, Lisa, I feel I should be back home to be able to talk to folks who knew and loved Sandy. Sandy and Caroline have done so much for all of us who love the old songs, I guess the best way we can thank them is to keep singing those songs. Around 1968 Sandy and Caroline came into a folk club in San Francisco I used to sing at, it was called the Singers Circle, run by Alan McCloud, they sang us some good old songs, they were beautiful. That was the first time I met them and I have had the pleasure of knowing them ever since. Spare special thoughts for David, in a few short weeks he has lost his son and his father, it is so much to bear.
Much love to Caroline and all the Paton family.
David


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: GUEST,Patricia
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 05:52 PM

I wanted to share this since it made a big impact on me.

A friend once mentioned to me, after a mutual friend had passed away, that it doesn't really work well to tell the other family members, "please let me know if there's anything I can do." or "please call me if there's something I can do for you."

They are in shock and grief and often can't think of what someone could do and sometimes just can't make the effort to reach out to call and say what they might need or like. My friend told me to think about what or how I could offer something (bring food, do errands, whatever), and to just either do it (if it wasn't intrusive) or to call/write with a specific offer.

It's almost like we say that ("let me know if there's anything I can do") because we don't know what else to say. I know we don't say it casually , but even if it's heartfelt, it doesn't often do what we would want it to. I know, because I've said it many times myself, and it's been more because I couldn't think of anything else to say but didn't want to end the conversation.

It's hard to just say "I am so very sorry for your loss." It's just not enough.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton (1929 - 26 July 2009)
From: Deckman
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 05:50 PM

When Walt Robertson passed away, over 14 years ago, I was stuck with the task of writing his obit for Sing Out. I called on several friends to help me. Sandy spent much time with me, helping me assemble some delicious stories in a readable fashion. We exchanged occasional phone calls and e-mails after that. I've always been grateful to Sandy for helping me with that onerus assignment. bob


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Lizzie Cornish 1
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 05:38 PM

A beautiful thread, which says so much about a man who touched so many people in his life.

It's a blessing to be surrounded by your family when those final moments come, especially a loving family. But, it's also a blessing, albeit a sad one for those left behind, for a grandfather to be able to wrap his soul around his much loved grandson, and for his young soul to know his Grandpa is back with him, so near to him once again.

With love to Sandy's family.

Sandy - 'Come Love Come'

(taken from here)


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: ranger1
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 05:33 PM

I didn't know Sandy either long or well, but he gave lovely hugs. My condolences to Caroline and the rest of the family.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Don Firth
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 05:11 PM

I first became acquainted with Sandy Paton in 1952 (give or take a couple of months) while I was attending the University of Washington. I'd just caught the folk music bug from a girl I was dating at the time, and it was because of her that I first took in a concert by Walt Robertson. At about the same time, I met a whole bunch of other people:   Sandy Paton, Ric Higlin, Dick Landberg, Bob Clark, several others. . . .    Most of these folks lived in a ramshackled old rooming house in the University District generally referred to by its inmates as "Cockroach Manor."

Sandy was into acting and painting at the time, and he was also busily learning folk songs, mostly from song books as I recall, and teaching himself to play the guitar. It wasn't very long after I first met him that he decided to head Back East to make his mark in the world.

A couple of years later, in summer of 1954, he hitchhiked back to Seattle. While he was here, we had lots of good song fests (we called them "hootenannies," or simply "hoots," a term we used to refer to free-for-all folk music jam sessions, not public performances).

Word was that Sandy had arrived in Seattle with what he was wearing, and carrying his guitar case, in which he also had a couple of packs of cigarettes and a change of socks. As I recall, he stayed with Ric Higlin and his new wife, Freddie (Alfreda), in Cockroach Manor. It was said that, periodically, in the dead of night, he would sneak down to the local Laundromat in the dead of night in a borrowed bathrobe, wash his clothes, and sneak back. In fact, I think it was Sandy who told me so.

Late in August of 1954, Sandy decided to hang out his thumb and head Back East. The night before he left, we had one helluva "hoot." Toward the end of the evening, one of the attendees, Donnie Logsdon, a former childhood street-corner preacher (who had long since de-frocked himself), preached a sermon about the sin of sending our brother Sandy out into this wicked world with a minimum of funds, and took up a collection for him. While the sermon was going on (a real tour de force on Donnie's part) Sandy sat there with his face in his hands and shaking his head, highly embarrassed. But—we did manage to send him off with a fair amount of funds. Sandy told me later that he was able to eat a lot more regularly on the trip than he would have otherwise. In the words of Donnie Logsdon, it was a love offering.

The next time I saw Sandy was in 1958. I was flipping through the folk records in Campus Music and Gallery, and there he was, looking up at me from the front of a record jacket. "The Many Sides of Sandy Paton." He'd obviously been busy since I'd last seen him.

In 1960, I attended my first Berkeley Folk Music Festival. The list of performers was impressive, including Peggy Seeger and Ewan MacColl, John Lomax, Lightnin' Hopkins, Sam Hinton, the New Lost City Ramblers, others—and Sandy Paton. All day workshops and evening concerts along with many informal gatherings. A marvelous experience all the way around. I congratulated Sandy on his Elektra record, but he said he was not real happy with it. As I understood it, apparently they'd been a bit dictatorial about what songs they wanted him to do and how they wanted him to do them. I didn't know Elektra did that sort of thing, but I was also told later that this was one of the reasons that Sandy co-founded Folk-Legacy:    to let the singer do it their own way.

During the Berkeley Folk Festival, there were a fair number of "off-campus" activities, including late-night parties and get-togethers after the evening concerts. Sandy buttonholed me and took me to one of these, where I wound up having a chance to meet and chat with Peggy Seeger and Ewan MacColl.

A long time after that (late 70s or early 80s) Gordon Bok sang a concert in this area, and he mentioned to me that Sandy had had a heart attack.

And it was sometime after that, I recall talking to Sandy on the phone. He was contemplating the possibility of coming out to the Pacific Northwest to see what all was going on in folk music in this area, possibly, as I understood it, with the idea of recording a few people for Folk-Legacy. But unfortunately, it never came off. I would have loved to have seen Sandy again.

Once we encountered each other here on Mudcat, we exchanged posts and PMs from time to time.

Although we've known each other for 57 years, we really didn't know each other closely for that long. Nevertheless, Sandy has been a strong influence on me all this time. His abilities, his enthusiasm, and his dedication have been, and will continue to be, an example to follow, along with his just generally being a friendly and generous person. I regret that I have never had a chance to meet Caroline or any of his young 'uns. But having known Sandy is one of the things in this life that I truly value and cherish.

Don Firth


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: GUEST,Alan Oakes
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 05:01 PM

I first met Sandy and Caroline in California in 1968. Sandy was a handsome young man and Caroline a beautiful young woman. We had a wonderful visit. They came to my house, and among other things, they helped me to catch a few more hard-to-understand words from an old County recording I had of "Going Down the Valley." They suggested that to get more of the words I should come East to the next Fox Hollow festival and talk to a man named Joe Hickerson. I did. Joe had not heard the song, but he did, later, find the words and recorded the song on a Folk Legacy record in 1969.

I have since learned that this was a pretty typical first meeting with Sandy and Caroline. The visit was fun, they were helpful about folk music and it was the beginning of a beautiful friendship. Now 41 years have gone by. We saw each other 3 or 4 times a year at folk festivals. We always found time to talk. We sang together after concerts. I got lots of hugs from both of them. After I moved East in 1972, we occasionally visited each other's homes. During the last 20 years, or so, one of the common topics of Sandy's and my conversations was how we were each doing with our respective heart problems. It was a joy to grow old together.

Farewell Sandy. You were a good friend and a good man. I miss you very much.

Caroline, all my love.

-Alan Oakes


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Nancy King
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 04:55 PM

What devastating news this is! And what a terrible blow to the Paton family, especially coming so soon after they lost Kaelan.

Sandy was one of the sweetest guys you could ever hope to meet. I will always cherish the memory of his and Caroline's hospitality to The Boarding Party and its entourage (including me) on their two week-long recording sessions in Sharon in the 1980s. I can still see Sandy sitting at his recording console, flawlessly editing reel-to-reel tape with a razor blade, getting results as good as can be had with digital equipment today. And then there was the hands-and-knees search for the cricket that had gotten into the studio (a huge room that had once been a barn) and was making itself heard at the wrong moments. And "Welcome Boarding Party" spelled out in magnetic letters on the fridge when we arrived -- which somehow morphed into "Bleeding Pity" and "Barfing Puppy" and (my favorite) "Balding Poopy" over the course of the week. He and Caroline made us all feel so welcome and relaxed that the music just flowed.

There was never any question what label the BP's recordings would be on. "Nobody else will let us write a book!" said Jonathan. Folk-Legacy's contributions to the world of traditional music is unparallelled. Their love of the music and desire to share it is simply priceless.

As for Sandy himself -- a dear, sweet man with a beautiful tenor voice (go listen to "When You and I Were Young, Maggie" on one of the Mudcat CDs), a grand sense of humor, and a remarkable recording skill.

I didn't see Sandy often in recent years (though I've talked to Caroline on the phone -- always a treat -- a few times), but whenever I did, I was greeted as an old and dear friend, just as was everyone else in the folk community.

We've lost a really special one, friends. Caroline and the whole Paton family are in my thoughts.

Nancy


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Crowhugger
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 04:30 PM

Sad, sad news. I had only "met" him here on Mudcat, and I'm grateful that so much of his wisdom, knowledge & humour was shared here. Condolences to Caroline and family and friends.

~CH~


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Little Robyn
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 04:04 PM

That's too much sadness for one family.
I guess Sandy is with Kaelan now.
Much love to Caroline and family.
Robyn


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: lisa null
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 03:58 PM

I ache at the idea of not seeing Sandy anymore. He was my buddy, my mental sparring partner, my colleague, my comforter, and above all, my mentor. He and Caroline helped me start the record company I co-founded with Pat Sky (Green Linnet)-- they gave me their mailing list and hours of advice to go with it. I lived in CT and when times were tough and I just "had to get away," they were always there for me with a bed, coffee or tea, and a bevy of songs.

Sandy was empathetic but never intruded into my private sorrows-- at least not without my asking for his help. When I asked, he always gave me his opinion straight, and i learned to respect his humane dose of reality.

I always knew what he liked or didn't like musically and why-- he was honest about that too, even if it was my own singing.

One summer, Caroline and i went field collecting together in Waterbury CT. We would come home like two giggling sisters on a shopping spree, and there would be Sandy delighting in our adventures and ready to play Caroline's cassettes, no matter how late at night.

The Patons lived at the other end of the state from me, but they were the next door neighbors I always wanted. Sandy taught me much about performing, but more importantly, (at the tag end of the commercial folk boom), he taught me how to keep the music alive and vibrant as part of a growing community of people who sing for love He and Caroline always believed in letting songs speak for themselves. They taught me that my job as a singer was to purge the words and tune of affectation and hoked-up drama. This is easier said than done, but they succeeded with their own songs as they helped me with mine.

All these memories will live with me forever, but most of all I will remember how fully Sandy lived his life-- his zany and sometimes ribald humor, his gusto at New England's diners and pizzerias not to mention New York's Chinese restaurants. He had great story-telling gifts and bestowed not only stories but gentle attention he gave to all the young 'uns who entered his orbit. He was a great listener. i have a painting of Sandy's from his younger days as an artist --golden trees bending in an invisible wind. I told him I loved it, and suddenly it was mine. That's the kind of man Sandy was.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: John on the Sunset Coast
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 03:45 PM

So sorry to read of his death. May his family find strength from their wonderful memories of his life, and may we all,,,even those who did not directly know him.

RIP


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: folkie43
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 03:33 PM

I just cannot believe it -especially so soon after his grandchild died so tragically. He was a huge part of my life for many years, helping my brother start the Sounding Board Coffeehouse and just being there for me in the last 8 years when most of my family passed away.
I can remember meeting him & Caroline for the first time back in 1973 and sitting in their huge living area and everyone was singing "Only Remember". It seems such an appropriate song for today.
Caroline - my heart goes out to you and it was so nice to hear you a couple of weeks back.. PLEASE let me know if there is anything I can do. Love you all - Janet Domler Steucek


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: bbc
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 03:21 PM

Duane D. has gone over to Patons to help get some orders out. I know he will tell them about this thread & its many expressions of love. I am home, if anyone would like a little more info (without bothering the family) or would like to chat. I can be reached at (518) 329-3765 or mudderbbc@gmail.com.

best,

Barbara


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: open mike
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 03:12 PM

Yes LEGACY is certainly the right word...i will play Folk Legacy
music on my next radio show August 8th in memory of Sandy, who,
like Alan Lomax, did so much to promote and preseve the music of the folks.

Dictionary...Main Entry: leg·a·cy       noun


1 : a gift by will especially of money or other personal property   
   : bequest   
2 : something transmitted by or received from an ancestor            
    predecessor or from the past as in:
    the legacy of the ancient philosophers


be·quest          noun
Etymology:
    Middle English, irregular from bequethen Date:   14th century

1 : the act of bequeathing 2 : something bequeathed : legacy


    be·queath      transitive verb
Etymology:
    Middle English bequethen, from Old English becwethan,
from be- + cwethan to say — more at quoth Date: before 12th century

1 : to give or leave by will —used especially of personal property 2 : to hand down : transmit

    trans·mit       verb
Etymology:
    Middle English transmitten, from Latin transmittere, from trans- + mittere to send    15th century

transitive verb
1 a: to send or convey from one person or place to another : forward b: to cause or allow to spread: as (1): to convey by or as if by inheritance or heredity : hand down (2): to convey (infection) abroad or to another 2 a (1): to cause (as light or force) to pass or be conveyed through space or a medium (2): to admit the passage of : conduct b: to send out (a signal) either by radio waves or over a wire intransitive verb: to send out a signal either by radio waves or over a wire



*I am thinking of the term "to hand down" (pass along, transmit)
compared with the descriptive phrase of praise "hands down" as in , he wins hands down....and they both apply to Sandy!

I hope someone can print this thread for Caroline and perhaps others
at the memorial....so much loss to bear, I wish for strength for all the family and friends who have so recently had to suffer Kaelan's loss.

Thanks for all that Sandy has done for folk music and musical folks.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: GUEST,bob stepno
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 03:07 PM

It dawns on me that without Sandy, Caroline, those Golden Ring albums and Bill Domler's Sounding Board coffeehouse, which they inspired, I might never have opened my mouth in front of an audience, hit many wrong notes, forgot lyrics, carried on anyway.

And without the confidence to do those things, I certainly could never have become a teacher. A teacher of things I do much better than sing, that is.

Thanks, Sandy and Caroline (and their extended family around the Sounding Board, Pinewoods and more) for sharing, inspiring, touching lives and... I think I'll go play some music tonight.

Bob @ stepno.com


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Arkie
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 03:03 PM

Though never having personally known Sandy or Caroline is am still saddened by this occasion and feel as though I have lost a personal friend. My introduction to the Patons was enjoying their performances at the FSGW Getaway ages ago and then there was the discovery of Folk Legacy recordings and the subsequent discovery of the many artists they recorded. Admiration increased with the realization that Folk Legacy recorded many people whose music ought to be passed on and preserved but who did not necessarily sell a lot of records. I appreciate the efforts the Patons made to disseminate music and information and my life, the lives of many others, were made richer through them. I will miss Sandy and my heart goes out to Caroline and the family.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: bseed(charleskratz)
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 02:56 PM

I got the sad news today on Facebook, posted by Max. I never met Sandy and had little exchange with him here (most of my posts have been too trivial to attract his attention), but was very aware of his presence, both from his posts and from what others posted about him. I was terribly moved by the news of the loss of his and Caroline's grandson, and Sandy's death coming so soon after seems like an unbearable loss for Caroline and family, and for their friends, and for the entire Mudcat community.

Many of you know of my Monday night jams, and tonight I'm going to read Ron Olesko's birthday notice/brief bio of Sandy, and request that the group dedicate this song in his memory.

WHO WILL SING FOR ME
Carter Stanley (third verse by John McCutcheon?)

1. Oft I sing for my friends,
   When death's cold form I see
   And when I reach my journey's end
   Tell me who will sing for me

Chorus:
I wonder (I wonder) who
Will sing (will sing) for me
When I come to cross that silent sea,
Tell me who will sing for me

2. When my friends have gathered 'round
   And look down on me
   Will they turn and walk away
   Or will they sing one song for me

3. So I'll sing until the end
   And helpful try to be
   Ever knowing there'll be some
   Who will sing one song for me


Charles


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Jeri
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 02:30 PM

The first time I met Sandy was at a Sandy & Caroline performance in 1973 that Vaughn Ward brought a bunch of us kids to. I've never forgotten.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: georgeward
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 02:26 PM

One by one they're leaving me, the heroes of my youth"
-George Papavgeris (Mudcatter El Greco)

Grand song. It's on here someplace. Look it up. It's what was singing itself on my head yesterday. Honestly. Make of that what you will.

Kathy Westra wrote, "I would not be the person I am, nor know any of you." I can probably say the same, as Vaughn could have too. I called Caroline, as always having no bloody idea what to say and feeling tongue-tied. We probably talked for half an hour - laughing and crying - for so the memories came flooding back.

And the personal thing is, but also is not the point. The point is - as this thread continues to demonstrate - that so many of us, in our different ways, can say the same. The web that Sandy and Caroline wove - each in his/her own way (how wonderfully personal and quirky) - is simply staggering. It reaches beyond any and all of us, we know not how far. And in a world in which so many are so devoted to weaving evil (too often in the name of good), it may not be too much to say that theirs' is the web of the still, small voice. They've lived it, modelled it, made us believe in it too.

Rest in peace, dear old friend. You've earned it.

And to end as I began (with only a slight paraphrase), I just hope that I can play my part and be worthy of my friend.

- George


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: jacqui.c
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 02:10 PM

I met Sandy and Caroline just under five years ago, when Sandy married Kendall and me. From day one I felt as if I had been drawn into their extended family and was always made to feel so welcome when we visited. I don't think that I have ever felt like a 'guest' in their house.

I will miss walking in a hugging that big bear of a man, getting a kiss and having his big hand wrap round my arm in greeting. We had some amazing conversations, particularly this year.

Go back to the Universe Sandy - I was honoured to know you, even for such a short time.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Dan Schatz
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 02:10 PM

From Sing Out! today.

Dan

    Folk-Legacy Records founder Sandy Paton passed away on Sunday July 26 around 6:30pm. He had been hospitalized the last few days after becoming extremely fatigued. Sandy had been in poor health in recent years, suffering from emphysema which required that he was constantly connected to oxygen. About a month ago, Sandy & Caroline’s grandson died tragically – drowning in a river in Connecticut. Friends have said that Sandy took the loss extremely hard.

    Sandy, with his wife Caroline and the late Lee Haggerty, founded Folk-Legacy Records as an independent recording company specializing in traditional and contemporary folk music of the English-speaking world in 1961. Over the 48 years Folk-Legacy has existed, they have produced over 120 recordings with Sandy doing the actual recording and taking cover photographs.

    Sandy was a terrific singer in his own right, as well. He and Caroline were designated as the Official Connecticut State Troubadours for 1993-1994.

    Sing Out! editor Mark Moss adds: “In a world where meeting your “idols” rarely works out very well, Sandy Paton was an inspiration. His love, dedication and vision for traditional music was unwavering … but he was never strident, pushy or rude about his impressive knowledge. This was a guy who was all about loving the music and wanting to share his love for the songs and singers. And each Folk-Legacy release exuded that passion. Once I “met” my first Folk-Legacy release (the original Golden Ring recording), I was hooked … and am proud to own almost every release from the label. Hardly “hi tech,” but the music Sandy captured, made and shared was the real thing in the truest sense of the words. It was an honor to have known him. My heart was already breaking for the family (after the loss of his grandson Kaelan in June) … I can’t imagine the pain the family is feeling now. A sad, sad day.”

    Information about a memorial service is forthcoming.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Rapparee
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 02:04 PM

There is nothing, absolutely nothing, I can say that hasn't been said.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: frogprince
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 01:45 PM

Another of the great big hearts has ceased. He had more than earned his rest; but so sad for the family to have two great losses almost at once. Many of us will know, from all that's said here, that we missed something very special in not knowing Sandy in person.
                           Dean


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: kendall
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 01:42 PM

I was doing pretty good until I read Dani's post about Sandy and me at Ramblewood. There was so much more we could have done if we had known that our singing days were numbered.
I have to leave because I'm going to lose it.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Wesley S
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 01:39 PM

I never had the pleasure of meeting the man. But it's obvious that there is a great big empty Sandy Paton sized hole in the world right now. Maybe it will never be filled. But if we work together - we can try.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: EBarnacle
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 01:30 PM

Sandy was more than just an icon. He and Caroline are [as long as Caroline continues, it is still "they are"] a nexus. Many of us have and will come together due to their presence and the things they have done. They are a tradition.

I first met Sandy and Caroline back in the 70's at the Hudson Valley Folk Picnics, the predecessor of Clearwater's Great Hudson River Revival. Sandy was always generous with their time and knowledge and they both willingly participated in events I ran for several organizations, whether or not there was money available. It was always a pleasure to run into them at events and chat, however briefly.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Uncle Phil
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 01:27 PM

The people that collect and preserve the music are the best among us. They give us the base for all of our study, concert and back porch performance, songwriting, and composing. Well done, Sandy.

Michelle and I extend our condolences to family and friends. Grace, mercy, and peace to you.
- Phil


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: GUEST,Steve Jerrett
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 01:16 PM

I am truly saddened by this news.

I met Sandy and Caroline at my first Folk Alliance in Philadelphia back when I was performing and managing a coffeehouse in the Boston area. He nominated me to serve on the board.

One of my fondest memories is sitting in an after hours sing out in the lobby outside the banquet rooms with him on one side and Hazel Dickens on the other, harmonizing to "Amazing Grace".

Sing on, Sandy!


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: katlaughing
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 01:01 PM

Oh, SandyGramps...can't see for the tears.


That's the second time in three months I have missed calling a friend just before they passed on. The other friend let go in grief,too. I hope there isn't a third time.

One other award Sandy and Caroline received...though it isn't nearly as significant or worldly as some of those others, they made me feel as though it were and that was the First Annual Mudcat Living Treasure Award.

{{{{Caroline and Family and *Adopted* family}}}}

bbc, thank you


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Amos
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 12:33 PM

Ah, no!!! He has always been one of the stars at the edge of our amorphous circle here, one of those constants you look toward to know you have not lost your bearings. This passage will be like the vanishing of a constellation, unexpected, disorienting, unsettling. What prayers I have go out to his safe arrival and to his family.

I often take comfort in this piece, when losses like this one confound me, and I offer it with deep affection and respect:



Gone From My Sight

I am standing upon the seashore.
A ship at my side spreads her white sails
to the morning breeze
and starts for the blue ocean.

She is an object of beauty and strength.
I stand and watch her until at length
she hangs like a speck of white cloud
just where the sea and sky come
to mingle with each other.

Then, someone at my side says;
"There, she is gone!"
"Gone where?"
Gone from my sight. That is all.

She is just as large in mast and hull
and spar as she was when she left my side
and she is just as able to bear her
load of living freight to her destined port.

Her diminished size is in me, not in her.
And just at the moment when someone
at my side says, "There, she is gone!"

There are other eyes watching her coming,
and other voices ready to take up the glad
shout;

"Here she comes!"

And that is dying.


by Henry Van Dyke, a 19th Century clergyman, educator, poet, and religious writer.


A.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: WFDU - Ron Olesko
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 12:27 PM

Sandy was an icon, and one of the nicest people I ever met.   When my radio station started broadcasting traditional music, Folk Legacy was one of the first companies to supply us with LP's, and Sandy was generous with helping us build a library. Each package from Folk Legacy was a treasured gift.   I would run into Sandy at places like Old Songs or Clearwater and he would always greet me with a smile and a cheerful greeting. I will always admire the man and everything that he did for this community. My condolences to Caroline and family as well as all the wonderful friends.


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Bill D
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 12:27 PM

I first met Sandy & Caroline about 1980, when they came to a Getaway in the old Prince William Park site...they brought LPs, and *I* happened to be there as they unloaded. They had brought 2 copies of everything, and I got 1st choice. *smile*

Then, every few years, we were treated to their friendly sharing & wide knowlege.
I hate saying goodbyes, so I when I miss Sandy, I will just go downstairs & sit with a pile of old, black LPs...and remember how I came to have such treasures.

Mick mentiond that 'hello session' at a Getaway....that was Oct. 21, 2000, and here are Sandy & Caroline that morning...

Getaway16.JPG
Getaway17.JPG
Getaway18.JPG
http://home.comcast.net/~somethingextree/music/Getaway19.JPG


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Subject: RE: Obit: Sandy Paton
From: Desert Dancer
Date: 27 Jul 09 - 12:21 PM

A Folk Legacy indeed, and obviously much more to those who knew him.

My own contacts with him were just a few and brief, but his generous nature was apparent.

My sympathies to all who were close to him.

~ Becky Nankivell


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