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Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers

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Subject: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: Abby Sale
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:06 AM

A lovely friend & fine singer is teaching music in India. Her 5th grade will have a 6-week unit on explorers and she requests any sea songs I might know and have digitized.

I can tell her that all sea songs are about exploration or at least traveling but I'm stuck on trad material on exploration per se. I can only think of:

Lady Franklin's Lament
Bounty Was a Packet Ship

There must be many, though.
Can you think of any more (on CD)?


Abby

(cc. RecMusicFolk)


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:18 AM

Christofo Columbo

@displaysong.cfm?SongID=1186



But be careful - there is an xrated version in the DT.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:24 AM

Silly Columbus Song:


@displaysong.cfm?SongID=4717


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:36 AM

Octavius - The first ship to sail the Nothwest Passage (with a ghost crew) true story. Hissyfit wrote and recorded it.

Octavius

Soft eerie light on the water
Silent, she moves with the ocean beneath her
Caverns of ice, rise above her
Slowly, the soft cloak of winter descends.

I am no match for you.

Moonlight has captured her beauty,
Pale silhouette in the blackness beyond her
Swanlike, in elegant motion,
One fleeting moment, and then she is gone

I am no match for you.

Forced by the passage of time and degree
Locked in an ocean of death, ice and sea
Statues of frozen flesh, blood withered bone
Death came to those who were so far from home.

Soft eerie light on the water
Square sailed, a breathless wind often becalmed her,
Floating her haunted path eastwards
Too late, her journey would not take her home.

I am no match for you

Caught in the grip of the ice-storm,
Life like some flickering candle that's over,
Slowly our breath fading from us
Caught with the dying words trapped n our minds.

I was no match for you

Steer us, beyond that which we've come to fear
Keep us in memory of those we hold dear.
Onward, Octavius drifts into night
Dwarfed by cathedrals of glistening ice.

Soft eerie light on the ocean
Gleaming the Arctic stars shine high above us
Onward our dead souls are drifting
Caught in a journey of time and degree.

I was no match for you.

Soft eerie light on the water
Thirteen long years that it took to discover
Crew frozen fast in an ice storm
Caught in a journey, of time and degree.


A true story of the ship Octavius, which in 1775 was discovered by

the packet 'Herald' drifting with its entire crew frozen dead.

The captain's log showed that it had been travelling for thirteen years

and had covered thousands of miles, sailing as it did, through the

North West Passage.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:50 AM

The Old Figurehead Carver
Marco Polo is the ship. The song has a verse about Marco polo.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: Gibb Sahib
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:50 AM

Then of course there is Stan Rogers' "Northwest Passage" -- Is her need "traditional," in which case how are you defining that for this purpose? i.e. what exactly are the restrictions?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:58 AM

There were some threads on Shackleton a while back.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 10:00 AM

Calypso - modern but about Cousteau a modern explorer.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: Abby Sale
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 10:32 AM

Gibb Sahib,

Well, not Northwest Passage, I think. Anyway, that brilliant song would be hard to present to 5th graders, I also think.

Likewise bawdy material - I asked her about that but no response yet. I doubt the school would go along. A shame.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: GUEST,Jack Campin (in Transylvania)
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 11:04 AM

There are two tunes I can think of relating to Captain Cook: "The Lament for Captain Cook", a fiddle tune by Miss Oswald of Auchincrieve (not to be confused with her appalling mother) given words by Burns which have no maritime connection at all, and "Omai", a spectactular reel published by (and probably written by) William Campbell - Omai was the Tahitian who came back to England with Cook. You can find the lament in Kinsley's edition of Burns: Campbell's books are very rare but I have an ABC transcription of the tune at home.

There is also a Polynesian verse/song/dance drama about Cook's vsit to one of the Pacific atolls (Mangareva?), dating from the time of the event, which survived in oral tradition long enough to be written down in the early 19th century. The missionary collector didn't write down the music. The text (and stage directions) are in Anthony Alpers' "The World of the Polynesians", I think. There may well be surviving Polynesian songs about their own colonization of the Pacific.

The big sea-exploration poem is Camoes' "Os Lusiadas" - was any of it ever sung?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 12:01 PM

Try here at Lester Levy:

https://jscholarship.library.jhu.edu/handle/1774.2/2085/browse?value=Explorers&type=subject


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: Q (Frank Staplin)
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 01:16 PM

The story of the Octavius is legend, not fact. A tall tale, origin unknown. No verification that the ship ever existed.
See Wikipedia, etc.

The first North American expedition to find a northwest passage sailed March 4, 1753 from Philadelphia, the schooner Argo under Capt. Charles Swain. It got as far as Cape Farewell and Hudson Strait, but was stopped by ice. In 1854, it tried again, but after three men were killed by natives on the Labrador coast, it abandoned the quest.
Raold Amundson was the first to succeed, 1903-1906.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: Charley Noble
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 03:09 PM

I wonder if anyone has composed a ballad about the 18th century French explorer Marion Dufresne who was one of the first Europeans to explore New Zealand only to get eaten. He should of heeded the warning from the natives: "Don't fish in the cove where we bury our ancestors!"

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: SINSULL
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 03:22 PM

Ah, Q. Why did you have to spoil it?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:18 PM

There's surely enough amazing stories connected with the search for the North-West Passage without resorting to fanciful inventions.

I have an idea there is a song about the Matthew Flinders expedition - possibly titled "Terra Australis" - the expedition mapped much of the coastline of Australia.

Haven't found that yet. I did find "Australian Rap" by Des Bishop, which had some interesting things to say.

Ross


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Subject: Lyr Add: Australian Rap (Des Bishop)
From: Ross Campbell
Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:25 PM

Throw your hands like this dont be afraid
Australian Rap       Des Bishop

I know your in the princess theatre but you might as well let it go
here we go
I might mess it up but who cares

Well before the Brtis before the convicts William Janz came from Holland in 1606
Saying yeah es torrez found the ways that were skinny between Queensland and Papua New Guinea
Give ME Give Me land Europeans scheming and dreaming
Tasman discovered land named after Van Diemen and also New Zealand in 1642
with the 17th century not even half way through
And 1770 things were changed forever Captain Cook had a look on board the Endeavor better late than never Phillip thought that Sydney was great 1788
NSW would be the state 26 of january was the actual date

751 convicts among the freight the colony grew slowly there among the rocks
Black fellas died in numbers exposed to small pox
William Bligh from Rebellion then Macquarie the people
said he favored the fallen over the free
Flinders wrote of a trip to Terra Australis So Australia is what they'd call all this \

Convicts got free for jobs because they chose not to rob
Pre settlers made Adelaide because they were snobs
Victoria the place to be in 54 there was problems with g-o-l-d
As the miners were looking for licences that were cheaper
Somebody got murdered in a hotel called Eureka now the future looked bleaker
The hotel went alight the matters lead to stockade the Southern Cross to flight
In the 1870s bushrangers were deadly the authorities and Ned Kelly
were not really friendly but outlaws in Australia get remembered as groovy
Who the hell is Redmond Barry Ned Kelly got a movie

Federation White Australia policies only Europeans
no more chinese please
Melbourne and Sydney thought the capital should be there
So they put the A.C.T in the middle of nowhere
Over there the 20 th century tragedy came to ozzies in Gallipoli as those Anzacs Came under attack and 8000 of those brave diggers never came back

Come on
dont be afraid to like give a little bit back yeah its your history
Edmund Barton was your first prime minister but you know that cause it was in a tv commercial

last verse here we go

You got the depression from America and that was crap
You sent them Farlap but they never sent him back
Then the bombing of Darwin from the Japanese
Fear of Commies under Robert Menzies
Populate or perish, procreate to survive
And Melbourne over 100, 000 Greeks arrive
Border ??? are fonder, white Australia's a goner
Harold Holt drowned, they built a swimming pool in his honour
The Vietnam and Conscription, Labor under Whitlam
Land rights for blacks back in the political system
For tourism promotion you sent the Yanks Paul Hogan
They come in droves expecting a land to be loaded with bogans
To many political backers, the Liberals speak about battlers
The media gets controlled by Rupert Murdock and Packer
??An increase?? in immigration, Hanson creates the one nation
Howard ignores years of the stolen generation
Kevin Mandarin Rudd has to stop the recession
The economies in a mess and going down the shi shao gen
But he said the thing that people find the hardest to say when he said sorry
on his very first day Yeah ! oh


This was posted by "Jay" in response to a request on a Yahoo site.

Ross


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: Artful Codger
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 04:21 AM

Would Francis Drake or Captain Kidd qualify? (Though the songs about Captain Kidd are lies from start to finish.)


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: GUEST,julia
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 11:20 PM

How about St Brendan's Fair isle by Jimmy (O') Driftwood?


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: Ken Schatz
Date: 29 Jul 09 - 11:57 PM

FRANKIE'S TRADE (Kipling/Bellamy), in Digitrad, about Francis Drake.


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: mg
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 12:04 AM

I think there are some about Captain Robert Grey..maybe by Brownsmead Flats. mg


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: GUEST,Dan Schatz (PDA)
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 12:46 AM

"The Old Peacock," on The Boarding Party's album Fair Winds and a Following Sea, dates to the US Exploring Expedition of the 1840s. It's exactly on topic.

Dan


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: burntstump
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 03:22 AM

How about Lord Franklin

"Homeward bound one night on the deep"


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Subject: RE: Tune Req: Sea songs about Explorers
From: Charley Noble
Date: 30 Jul 09 - 08:17 AM

"Lady Franklin's Lament" was mentioned in the first post.

Another Columbus "exploration" song was composed by Malvina Reynold's daughter a few years back:

By Nancy Schimmel (Malvina Reynolds' daughter)
As sung by Faith Petric, 1995

Columbus


In fourteen hundred and ninety-two
Columbus sailed the ocean blue
It was a courageous thing to do
But someone was already there!

Columbus thought that the world was round
So he looked for the East while westward bound
But he didn't find what he thought he'd found
For someone was already there!

The Inuit and Cherokee
The Aztec and Menominee
The Onondaga and the Cree
Columbus sailed across the sea
But someone was already there!


Now it isn't like it was empty space
The Caribs met him face to face
Could anyone discover a place
When someone was already there! (CHO)

So tell me who discovered what
He thought he was in a different spot
Columbus was lost but the Caribs were not
They were already there! (CHO)

Cheerily,
Charley Noble


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