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Subject: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Goose Gander Date: 28 Jul 09 - 03:38 PM In 2021, the archive link to this article is here: Marginalia: The Woof At The Door ---mudelf |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: lefthanded guitar Date: 28 Jul 09 - 04:44 PM Very interesting. I think they had an entire show on this on PBS. My question however, as a feline fan, is when and how did the first cat decide to domesticate a human? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Penny S. Date: 28 Jul 09 - 04:48 PM I'm trying to download a Scientific American articleon just that subject. http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=the-taming-of-the-cat It's suggesting about 10000 years ago, but I can't read it yet. Penny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Peace Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:01 PM I lived with a mountain lion for three years. She never did get used to me. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Penny S. Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:24 PM I've read it now - but beware, it keeps banging some instrument at you. Mountain lion? That's some choice of housemate. Penny |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Peace Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:27 PM It was a marriage of convenience. She had a cave and I had a gun. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: GUEST,JTT Date: 28 Jul 09 - 05:50 PM Dogs have been domesticated for thousands of years, for goodness sake. Men soon, we hope. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Janie Date: 28 Jul 09 - 07:01 PM Fascinating, Michael. Thanks for the link! Then I had to read up on the Central Asian Shepherd, a breed I had not heard of. Back in the late '80's and very early '90's I worked as a CSR for the American Kennel Club, and so had some awareness of most breeds registered with the AKC, the UKC and the American Coonhound Association. Even without following these things at all, it has been an eye-opener over the past 20 years to hear of or see the many dogbreeds of eastern Europe and central Asia that most of us who are part of John Q. Public in the USA had never heard of until the dissolution of the Soviet Union. Ain't nuttin' like a good dawg. One of these days I will again have the time to give one the attention it deserves. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Dorothy Parshall Date: 28 Jul 09 - 09:07 PM Peace' choice of home mates beats a lot of human partners one might have. So, how bout something on the domestication of humans. Like, when might that start to occur?? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Stilly River Sage Date: 20 Aug 21 - 10:19 PM A story came up today that needs to go on one of the dog threads. There are numerous threads to discuss particular losses (a couple of my own dogs have been memorialized at Mudcat) but this is a good general look at how they become a real part of our families, and why we mourn their loss. Here is an excerpt: Why Losing A Dog Can Be Harder Than Losing A Relative Or Friend An interspecies bond like no other The rest of it is at the link, and if you don't have an adblocker I suspect you're going to see a lot of crap pop up. It's via the IFL - I Fucking Love Science - page. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 20 Aug 21 - 11:34 PM I was doing a radio show in Buffalo one night when the subject turned to loss and the overwhelming number of calls was from people who lost dogs or still actively grieved after a year. It was surprisingly not about losing people that night. I've seen an older man have a breakdown that lasted for weeks. I think of Mr. Bo jangles, "after 20 years he still grieves" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Senoufou Date: 21 Aug 21 - 04:00 AM Grief! Oh my Lord, I still sometimes shed a few tears about our last cat Smokey, who was put to sleep two whole years ago. I think it's natural for sentient beings (humans, dogs, cats etc) to grieve after a loss. Don't elephants show signs of grief after a death? My funny neighbour-across-the-road was going to summon the men in white coats when I confessed I'd had a 'pet bluebottle fly'. I fed him tiny pieces of ham in our kitchen, and when he died I was rather sad. (She swats hers with enormous pleasure) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Black belt caterpillar wrestler Date: 21 Aug 21 - 04:13 AM "Domestication of dogs". My views are similar to Ghandi's views on "Western Civilisation". Robin |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Bonzo3legs Date: 21 Aug 21 - 06:10 AM Our greyhound is 100% domesticated, she sleeps on the sofa and often when I am in our music room she sleeps on the bed!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: robomatic Date: 21 Aug 21 - 11:48 AM I am daily involved with domestication of the dog and I have a gut level understanding and acceptance of this bond that I have come to well along in my life due to the influence of some good friends of both the human and canine variety. It is a source of great wonder and pleasure. I have liked and respected animals but I have not often had the responsibility of them liking me. I have been thinking of the Simpsons episode now a generation in the past where their dog had to be trained or given up. At the time there was a famous English dog trainer who they immortalized for the show: Woman: "Now let me introduce you to the two most important words in dog obediance: CHOKE CHAIN!" [choke chain pulled around the neck of Santa's Little Helper, who drops] Bart: "Is my dog dead, ma'am?" Woman: (laughs) "You've no idea how often I hear that!" |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Senoufou Date: 21 Aug 21 - 12:13 PM Haha robomatic, was that Barbara Woodhouse? ("Walkies!") I confess I can't listen to that song Bright Eyes sung by Art Garfunkel for the film Watership Down without bawling my eyes out. Our Headmaster at the school in Norwich where I taught for many years hired the blooming film for the whole school to watch one afternoon near Christmas. I foolishly told my class that the song upset me. When Garfunkel began to sing, the entire school turned to watch me hastily get out my hanky and sob into it. Having had to get the vet to put to sleep many many cats over the years (mostly old age) and watched their 'bright eyes' go pale, my heart breaks over and over about it. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 21 Aug 21 - 03:57 PM Ham? Don't you know blue bottle flies are jewish? You may have killed the poor dear. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Jeri Date: 21 Aug 21 - 03:59 PM I've been watching Cesar Millan's "Better Dog, Better Human" (I THINK that's right.) And "Pit Bulls & Parolees." We got a little bit of info during training to be a vet tech. Some dogs respond to food as a reward, some to toys, and sometimes, all they want is praise. And "Bright Eyes" gets me too, but because of the movie and the rabbits, and I'd hear it was about myxomatosis, which it really wasn't. I just felt bad for Hazel. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 21 Aug 21 - 05:13 PM I’m not a fan of Cesar Milan’s methods - I don’t like the physicality, the poking, prodding, tapping, even pinning a dog down. It’s based on domination - ‘being the boss’ - whereas the methods trainers like Victoria Stilwell and Graham Hall are grounded in winning the dog’s trust and affection, and making him want to do as he’s asked. Our dog, a Border Terrier, was trained using the ‘reward and praise’ methods, we’ve never had to get physical with him, or even raise our voices above normal conversation-volume - and this is a breed renowned for being single-minded, stubborn, and given to ‘selective deafness’. Milan’s methods might suit some people, but I’m not one of them. The usual disclaimers apply......IMHO, YMMV etc. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 22 Aug 21 - 07:44 AM There are neurological and psychological connections between humans and dogs of which some are yet to be discovered. The dog is evolved to be highly drawn to humans for food and survival. In humans the brain is connected to dogs even if they suffer from FTD dementia and can not remember their wife or children - they know their dog very well. What this means is debatable but it shows the bond is deeper than we even suspected. At least thats my snap theory. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Aug 21 - 10:49 AM I found Cesar Millan to be the key to teaching dogs what the rules of the house are. And there are just a few big ones: I'm the pack leader, so when we walk they are beside me, they're not out front pulling (and trying to assert their leadership). And I'm in charge of the food. So at meal time I put their bowls of food on the floor and they wait till I tell them to "eat!" before diving it. They do the related parlor trick when I show them a treat, they sit or get down on the floor (I say "down" and hold the hand held flat flush with my ear, a hand sign they recognize) and I put the treat on the floor - and tell them when they can have it. These two food things are win/win - they love to do the trick because they get food and when they do it right they get the food. My first dog since childhood was my pitbull Cinnamon who arrived as an injured big pup. We didn't find the owners so I kept her because she was so sweet and smart, but not accustomed to a leash or walking. I wondered about keeping an American Staffordshire Terrier (one of the several "bully" breeds) but once I saw Cesar work with them that convinced me I could do it. Any new dog that comes to the house (I'm on my fifth now, having lost the first two elderly ones in the last five years) they learn "the walk," and then we reinforce my pack leader status with food. I'm having a struggle with the youngest one now, she has decided she doesn't like the head collar, but I think it is a combination of as she grew and it became too tight, then I didn't adjust it out correctly. I think we've got the right combination now (because she forgets to protest about it and just walks.) It was very hard to lose that first one, she had to be euthanized as cancer progressed to the point where there was no joy for her, and it isn't something you get used to with new dogs and as time passes. The one I lost most recently managed to go on her own terms; she was failing only in the last week or so and one night overnight she lay down in her favorite place and died in her sleep. There are lots of things they know about me that they respond to. One of those things I noticed recently is that when I'm in the kitchen and drop something I tend to say "oops!" and they dash in to see what's on the floor for the first comer. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 22 Aug 21 - 01:48 PM We did all of that, but without Milan’s pushing, prodding, poking, and generally unpleasant physicality. Our dog is gentle, polite, affectionate and obedient. My parents had three Staffies, two dogs and a bitch - I was brought up with them - none was ever struck, pushed around, prodded, or poked, or otherwise roughly handled, and all were gentle, polite, affectionate, obedient animals who knew the rules and obeyed them. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: keberoxu Date: 22 Aug 21 - 02:03 PM Glad you're back, Backwoodsman. Missed you. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 22 Aug 21 - 02:47 PM Thanks, Keb. Time will tell whether I stay, if the dog-haters kick off again I’ll be outta here permanently. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Stilly River Sage Date: 22 Aug 21 - 03:58 PM I never saw Cesar doing any of the violence you're suggesting, BWM. We must have been watching different programs. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 22 Aug 21 - 04:16 PM Well I did see Milan pushing, poking and prodding, and I’ve seen him pin a dog down - unfortunately I have no idea which programmes he did those things in - it was a number of years ago. As I said, I accept that some people are happy with his methods, but I’m not one of those. So I guess we’ll have to agree to differ. That’s OK - different people, different opinions… |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 23 Aug 21 - 11:22 AM My childhood dog was a Russian Wolfhound. They are like a 'Persian' greyhound. Her name was Semantic. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Stilly River Sage Date: 25 Aug 21 - 11:38 AM I posted this photo on Instagram this morning - they are glad to get back into the house after our morning walk. They fully acknowledge that while they like to sniff around and adore the tall grass for playing Wild Dog On The Hunt, they are extremely happy to be back home where breakfast awaits. Cookie is doing better with her head collar after a few walks on her own leash; I think she was getting too much back-and-forth pulling when the lab's collar and hers were linked to a single leash. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 26 Aug 21 - 07:15 AM Today is International Dog Day. For those, like me, whose valued companion is his/her dog(s), every day is Dog Day. Dog Bless them all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Senoufou Date: 26 Aug 21 - 07:40 AM There's a very funny series of short little films on Youtube about Charlie the Golden. It's about a golden retriever and his housemates and their antics, with hilarious subtitles putting words in their mouths. Charlie often 'says' "I swear to Dog!" and "What the fluff?" It came up on my Facebook doodah and I quickly got hooked. I love 'coaching' (Norfolk word for stroking) all the dogs that are led past our house on their walks round the lakes and river. So many are called 'Molly'. Then there's Buddy, Logie, Leyla, and lots more, mostly in twos or threes. What's even funnier and makes me smile are the numerous angry posts with large photos of piles of dog poo left on the pavements, and displayed on our Village Facebook. Most people pick up their dogs' 'deposits' but some don't. I laugh when I imagine someone standing there taking a close-up of a lump of poo and their extremely cross comments. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Aug 21 - 02:21 AM Our remaining cat is called Molly, Sen. The one that passed away last year was Lily. On mentioning that a Stargazer lily had just flowered in our front garden last week we found Molly, later, curled up in a raised bed at the back. She must have heard about the lily flower and decided we needed a Molly flower too :-) We have the grumbles and photos of dog poo on our village Facebook group too. What I find more annoying though is those owners who clean up and then leave the bag hanging on a low tree branch or bush. What's that about!?!? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Senoufou Date: 27 Aug 21 - 03:29 AM Haha Dave! A 'Molly flower'! That's so sweet. I've always thought one should name a pet with something you can call easily. If it ends in 'y' this is ideal. We had cats called Smokey, Minty, Murphy and so on. I read on Mumsnet (I think it was) that some lady wanted to call her cat 'Jesus'! Everyone said that standing at her back door calling "Jesus! Jesus!" would have given her neighbours food for thought! We once took in a poor little cocker spaniel called Pela just for the weekend. Her South African owners (we cleaned their house for them weekly) intended to go away and just leave her trapped in their concrete backyard. They were hard-hearted (and rather racist towards my black husband, which enraged me) so we took her home with us. It was the first time we'd ever 'owned' a dog, and my husband was horrified that one was expected to lift the hot poo from the pavement in a thin plastic bag. But he manfully stepped up, and we walked Pela all over our lovely village. That dog was so delighted to live with us, and for the two days she spent the whole time in my arms on my lap or snuggled up to us in bed! I'm afraid I cried when we took her back to those nasty people. But fortunately, they went back to SA and gave Pela to a nice lady they knew. Thank God! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Aug 21 - 04:12 AM The book "A story like the wind" by the wonderful author Laurens van der Post tells a tale centred around a boy and his Rhodesian Ridgeback, Hintza. One section explains that the Bushman for "forward" is "tza" and this nearly ends in disaster when Hintza only hears the last bit and nearly jumps off a cliff! He was OK BTW :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 27 Aug 21 - 05:11 AM ”We have the grumbles and photos of dog poo on our village Facebook group too. What I find more annoying though is those owners who clean up and then leave the bag hanging on a low tree branch or bush. What's that about!?!?” Oh, it annoys the hell out of us responsible dog owners too, Dave, who pick up after their dogs without fail, and put the bag in a bin or take it home (we have a separate bin for Baxter’s poo bags at the bottom of the garden. We don’t understand it either and, of course, those dirty, lazy, anti-social A-holes get decent, socially-responsible owners a bad name. Mind you, it’s no worse than doing a bit of work on your borders and finding your hands covered in the cat-shit that someone else’s cat buried there! And I’ve never, ever seen or heard of a cat owner following their cat around and picking up after it! (And, BTW, I’m not a cat hater, I’m a fan of cats and was owned by a number during my first marriage!). ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Aug 21 - 07:56 AM Our cat poops on the stones in our back garden and we clean it up. I also clean the poop of a cat who visits next door's side lawn. We have previously had indoor cats which only ever used a litter tray. Just because you have not heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, John. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Senoufou Date: 27 Aug 21 - 08:11 AM When we had five cats at one time (!) we lived deep in the countryside with a half-acre garden. But they always preferred to use their big litter tray in the house. I didn't mind at all. Now we live in a street of bungalows, and the little rescued kitten next door, 'Archie', has now grown up and is starting to explore the neighbourhood. He likes to come to me for a little chat when I'm sitting on The Bench. Every time, after our little 'conversation' he squats on the lawn right in front of me, does a huge poo, then smiles in a friendly way. I reckon he's saying, "Here's a nice present for you!" I honestly don't mind this. I put it on a small shovel and chuck it under our hedge. Husband says he wonders what Archie's owners would say if he squatted on their lawn and did a huge poo, then smiled benignly. hee hee |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 27 Aug 21 - 08:36 AM ”Our cat poops on the stones in our back garden and we clean it up. I also clean the poop of a cat who visits next door's side lawn. We have previously had indoor cats which only ever used a litter tray. Just because you have not heard of it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, John.” Well that’s true Dave but picking it up in your own back garden is one thing, picking it up elsewhere is something else. Someone’s cat has recently taken to hiding its shit in the gravel surrounding my gas-meter box by my front door - as I discovered when I stood in it while reading my meter! Nobody followed that one to clear up after it! Fortunately, having a cat-hating dog, we don’t tend to get feline ‘visitors’ in our back garden nowadays. ;-) But, as I know you know, my point was that, for every perfectly valid complaint about un-cleaned-up dog-shit, there’s at least another equally-valid complaint about un-cleaned-up cat-shit, and cat-owners aren’t really in any position to try to occupy the high moral ground on the topic of their pets’ waste products - there’s fault on both sides. I do have to say though, that there can be no excuse for poo-bags hung in trees and bushes, or strewn around and left lying on the ground. I completely fail to comprehend the mindset of those who go to the trouble of picking their dog’s shit up, but then leave the bag lying around like that. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Stilly River Sage Date: 27 Aug 21 - 10:55 AM It is considered the polite thing to do, at the very least, to pick up dog droppings when you're in a public place or if out walking your and dog stops and leaves it in the street or a yard. I always have a couple of grocery (carrier) bags with me to pick it up and tie off the bag. If you think about it, it's a great weapon if you ever feel threatened when you're out walking (and having dogs with you isn't enough protection!) - swing or wave or throw the bag of dog waste. (It's easiest when our walks are on trash day to drop the bag in one of the bins as we walk past. Otherwise it goes in the trash at home. Everything out in the yard is picked up periodically and dropped into the compost.) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 27 Aug 21 - 11:06 AM Sounds like a book, The High moral ground of cat poop. : |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 27 Aug 21 - 12:42 PM SRS, it’s also the polite thing to do here in the UK and, in cities, towns and villages at least, bins are strategically placed by local authorities for dog-walkers to deposit their tied-up poo-bags. If there are no convenient poo-bins, it’s perfectly acceptable to drop your poo-bags in a standard litter-bin but, t.b.h., it’s really not a huge imposition to carry a bag or two home and put it/them in one’s own bin. Unfortunately, there is a minority of dog-owners who ignore the Golden Rule of Poop-Scooping, and whose indolence/lack of social conscience gives those of us who are fastidious about picking-up an undeserved bad reputation. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Dave the Gnome Date: 27 Aug 21 - 04:27 PM «i»Well that’s true Dave but picking it up in your own back garden is one thing, picking it up elsewhere is something else.«/i» Well, as I just said, I do pick up from my neighbour's garden but that is beside the point. I do pick up our cat's poop. Why should I pick up anyone else's? You pick up your own dog's mess. Do you pick up others? I'm not following your reasoning here... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 27 Aug 21 - 05:41 PM I think you’ve missed the point, Dave. Yes, I pick up after my dog anywhere and everywhere he takes a dump, and I do pick up other dogs’ shit if there’s a pile close by when I’m doing so. I’m not suggesting you, or any cat-owner, should pick up other people’s cats’ shit, but it would be nice if cat owners did what they expect dog-owners to do and pick up their cats’ shit anywhere and everywhere they take a dump. My dog never steps outside the confines of our garden without my wife or me being with him. How many cat-owners even know where their cats are all of the time, let alone where they take a dump when they’re roaming? As I’ve said a number of times on ‘dog’ threads, I’m not anti-cat, I’ve owned cats, held them in high affection, and still do feel an strong affinity with them. But I do find it galling that cat-owners use un-picked-up dog shit as a weapon to beat responsible dog-owners like me with, when there’s plenty of un-picked-up cat shit lying around, including on my property, that no-one makes any effort to pick up. And cat shit stinks just as bad as dog-shit, if not worse, when it’s on the sole of your shoe and you trample it on your hall carpet, as I did a few weeks ago after unknowingly treading in it while reading the gas-meter! ;-) But we could go over and over this ground, which is pointless. So I’m leaving it here. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: keberoxu Date: 27 Aug 21 - 08:12 PM To circle back to Stilly's link to the article about humans grieving the loss of canine companionship: a human with a dog-shaped hole in his or her heart remembers other things altogether: that wagging tail, the expression in the eyes, the warm snuggle, or what Donuel rightly calls the "horizontal grass dance." |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Dave the Gnome Date: 28 Aug 21 - 03:31 AM OK,John. You are obviously very defensive about something so I shall leave it too. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 28 Aug 21 - 04:27 AM Not ‘defensive’ at all, Dave - my conscience is absolutely clear where taking responsibility for my dog’s shit is concerned. Just putting undeniable facts on the table that many cat-owners seem to be unwilling to recognise. Pax. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Bonzo3legs Date: 28 Aug 21 - 05:41 AM I always use babies' nappy bags for picking up our grey's droppings, which are either deposited in a council litter bin marked for dog waste or taken home for flushing down the lavatory. If I see a dog owner not picking up dog's poo I offer a nappy bag!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 28 Aug 21 - 06:49 AM We buy the proper compostable poo-bags which are made from potato-starch, so they completely degrade within six months and leave no nasty-plastic particles to get into wild-life’s innards and the water system. I do the same if I see someone not cleaning up. We’re not such a bad lot, are we? ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 28 Aug 21 - 09:46 AM Stop creepin round my back door |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Dave the Gnome Date: 28 Aug 21 - 09:46 AM I'm the same, John. Nothing whatsoever against dogs. Just putting undeniable facts on the table that many dog-owners seem to be unwilling to recognise. I think we are in complete agreement on the undeniable facts about many cat and dog owners. Also in agreement about PMs from Dick as I got one too. I suspect yours was the reverse of mine but they both ended up in the same bin :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 28 Aug 21 - 02:25 PM Cheers Dave, like you, I think we are in agreement on most things, and I’m happy that our different views on other areas can be put away without damage to our relationship here - much appreciated. I don’t allow myself to be provoked by PM, and I don’t get involved in PM discussions. If I have something to say on a thread-topic, If only others would do the same. ;-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 28 Aug 21 - 02:28 PM Bugger, got distracted by the door-bell! Should have said… If I have something to say on a thread-topic, I say it on-thread - if it’s something I’m not prepared to say on-thread, I don’t say it at all. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 30 Aug 21 - 09:24 AM I noticed old pm's were either advice or support. The antagonizing PM is a modern development perhaps as an outgrowth of cruelty politics as seen on Facebook. Dogs would never send a mean PM and thats a fact. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: The Sandman Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:05 AM Cats generally cover their faeces Cats generally cover or bury their faeces, not always, but very often. Then there are Foxes, I often see their faeces when they have been eating blackberries. Dog owners often take their pets for a walk and can see the animal shitting in public and should always clear up afterwards most of them do. thse are the two PMS Isent to backwoodsman they are perfectly polite and factual. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:12 AM I don’t want PMs from you, I’ve told you before not to PM me. Stop PM-ing me. Do you understand? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:16 AM And it’s considered very bad form to disclose the contents of PMs on-thread. Do you understand? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:22 AM Everyone has pet peeves, mine are in laws with good reason. I noticed my dog give a heavy sigh. I doubled her activity and she stopped sighing. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: The Sandman Date: 30 Aug 21 - 10:56 AM I disclosed them so that it was clear they were polite and factual and not mean. There was an insinuation that they might be mean[ not by you] If you dont wish to receive pms leave the forum and be a guest. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Jeri Date: 30 Aug 21 - 11:20 AM Just delete them without reading. He doesn't understand that "unwanted", when the sender knows a person doesn't want them, is the same thing as "mean". It's stalker behavior. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 30 Aug 21 - 11:41 AM If you dont wish to receive BM's leave the forum and be our guest be our guest be our guest Come on we'll kick your ass You've won your own free pass To be our guest If you're stressed It's fine posting we suggest Be our guest Be our guest Be our guest Need some practice to be an asshole? Mostly we just lay around the castle Flabby, fat and lazy You walked in and oops-a-daisy It's a guest It's a guest Sakes alive, well, I'll be blessed Wine's been poured the flood has crest I've had the napkins freshly pressed With dessert She'll want tea And my dear, that's fine with me While the cups do their soft shoeing I'll be bubbling, I'll be brewing I'll get warm Piping hot Heaven's sakes! Is that a spot? Clean it up! We want the company impressed We've got a lot to do Is it one lump or two For you, our guest? Be our guest Be our guest Our command is your request It's been years since we had smart folks here And we're obsessed To appease With our ease Yes, indeed, we aim to please While the candlelight's still glowing Let us help you We'll keep going Course by course One by one 'Til you shout, "Enough! I'm done!" Then we'll sing you off to sleep since you got pissed Tonight you'll prop your feet up But for now, let's eat up Be our guest Be our guest Be our guest |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Dave the Gnome Date: 30 Aug 21 - 11:56 AM I'm pretty sure you wouldn't want me to disclose your PMs to me, Dick. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 30 Aug 21 - 12:44 PM Dogs on fire songhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O5cGUs2OM4 |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 30 Aug 21 - 12:44 PM Don’t bother with him, Dave. As I always say, ‘Don’t Feed The Troll’. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 30 Aug 21 - 12:46 PM ”Just delete them without reading.” Exactly what I did, Jeri. I always do. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: punkfolkrocker Date: 30 Aug 21 - 02:57 PM As a dog lover I must insist it's about time mudcat changed it's name to muddog.. If admin do not comply immediately you may regret not showing support for our canine friends. Stop being dogist by continuing to condone the evil of cats, People and organizations have been cancelled for far less.. You have been warned.. woof....!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Steve Shaw Date: 30 Aug 21 - 03:46 PM No! I won't have it! It's Mudhamster or nothing! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Bonzo3legs Date: 30 Aug 21 - 04:39 PM Perhaps Mudbiden as they seem to hero worship him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 30 Aug 21 - 04:41 PM In the South, people who catch big catfish with their bare hands are called mudcatters. They stick their hand in a hidy spot under water and jam their hand in the fish's mouth and make a fist. Then pull. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Nigel Parsons Date: 30 Aug 21 - 04:55 PM Stop being dogist by continuing to condone the evil of cats, It's not being 'dogist'. It's just a form of dogged determination. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Steve Shaw Date: 30 Aug 21 - 05:13 PM There's plenty of dogging determination round here. I hear that Kit Hill is the place to be... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Donuel Date: 30 Aug 21 - 08:59 PM song of hope for bonzo |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: keberoxu Date: 30 Aug 21 - 09:49 PM Could we come up with an excuse to use the word Mudcatawampus? No? Shoot. I like that word. Maybe we could refer to our pet Trolls, when they raise their ugly heads, by saying Mudcatawampus Alert!! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: punkfolkrocker Date: 30 Aug 21 - 09:52 PM oooooooooh.. catfight... |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Nigel Parsons Date: 31 Aug 21 - 04:12 AM . . . cheaper than a dogfight, you don't need aeroplanes ;) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Senoufou Date: 31 Aug 21 - 05:36 AM I think we need a subordinate claws. Or perhaps a paws for thought? Some posters on here are wags. And create bones of contention. Fleas try to be kind. And don't bite. Purrhaps things will improve. Or will become just pants? |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Backwoodsman Date: 31 Aug 21 - 05:42 AM LOL Sen! :-) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Stilly River Sage Date: 31 Aug 21 - 09:50 AM My three are all flopped down on the cold tile floor, cooling off after our morning walk. 77o and 80% humidity - better than the last few days when it was 90%. Once they've stopped panting so hard I feed them. There is a problem called "bloat" that can happen if they eat a big meal then get a lot of exercise; I don't want to create some similar but reverse situation by giving them exercise then feeding right away (though they get half in the morning and half in the evening—also to avoid bloat). I tell them we'll all wait - I don't get my first cuppa tea until they get fed. :) |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Bonzo3legs Date: 02 Sep 21 - 04:50 PM Our greyhound is 7 years old today, so happy birthday to her!! We take her to a secure field called oddly "Strawberry Field" tomorrow, where she can lurch about off lead for up to an hour. However the longest she's lasted so far is 40 minutes, when she just stands by our car! |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Senoufou Date: 03 Sep 21 - 03:49 AM Belated Happy Birthday to your darling greyhound Bonzo! (Is she called Dreamy? My memory is getting terrible!) Hope the run in Strawberry Fields was enjoyable. |
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Subject: RE: BS: Domestication of Dogs From: Bonzo3legs Date: 03 Sep 21 - 04:45 AM Yes that's right. |
